Celtic Banter Archive March 24 2015

24 Mar 2015 19:42:44
On the whole
"do we need them or not" (Rangers).
Does anyone know (ED?)how much money we would have made(Tv -games) and so on had they not imploded as they did?

NB. I am not saying we need them or not just asking the question?

24 Mar 2015 21:23:24
I don't think we need sevco but will admit the money on offer for tv and sponsors is reduced because they are not in the league but as iv said before they actually done the rest of the top flight a favour by being liquidated they are now all mostly debt free and run in the correct manner, but I do miss the game against yhem not all the shite that comes with it but the good fun I have with my mates and the misses is a bluenose (lol) aswell so we have good banter going on but to say do we " need them NO" mon the hoops

25 Mar 2015 05:48:54
Just a thought regarding if we need 'them' or not. All the quotes about money lost without them are one thing, but what if there troubles had never happened and they had won the league for all or the majority of the time they have been away and hadnt had any champions league football, how much would we have lost then. Without rankers we are a shoe in to the champions league qualifiers with a strong rankers challenging that's not the case. Is that financial and footballing point not worth considering to? Markie

25 Mar 2015 13:32:39
On subject of TV rights, how long will it be untill a company like netflix offers sport worldwide 24/7 effectively loosening ssn grip on the game?

25 Mar 2015 13:39:31
I do not miss the sectarianism or the aggravation and I would be delighted if we never played them ever again.
Aberdeen have proven to be able opponents in a league that has always been known as a two horse race anyway.
I do think there has been a complacency at the club, from Board down to support and trophies have been taken for granted since 2012 and we should have won a lot more.
However, at last, we seem to have got it spot-on in the dug-out and in the dressing room and we are looking in great shape. Unfortunately, SLY and the rest of the Sevco media will still hold a gun to the head of Scottish Football until they get into the Premiership, although that still does not guarantee better TV money - just appeased subscribers.
The attendances - especially at Celtic Park are a concern and I hope the club are working with fans on this? Ideally,
I would be absolutely delighted if we could engineer a move away from Scotland - and the same old corruption and biased but I reckon that day will never come in my lifetime?

25 Mar 2015 17:48:07
We do not miss the Sevco, they are a distraction on the market .
Sevco have the football family in Scotland more concerned about their threats and cheating rather than football for football sake .

26 Mar 2015 00:07:56
GK
RB
CB x2
LB
Winger
DM
Striker

26 Mar 2015 18:40:43
Big bhoy , thank God you have no bigger say than I have . It is very seldom that a manager can bring in more than four or five players without disrupting the team and without the team playing worse . I think 8 players would be a lot more than most could imagine .

I don't think Deila is thinking along your lines . He has said Celtic cannot compete for the best 22 year olds . We cannot compete with West Bromwich Albion .
What we can do, says Deila is sign the top 16/17 year olds and develop them . That is why Deila and his assistants are concentrating on under - age teams in this winter break .
Now I know many think, I am off tune with talking down the number of signings we can expect . I give my opinion, but get attacked . If we don't go down the road of developing our own, we are going to fall further and further behind, as there are well in excess of 20 clubs in a Country next to us, who has millions more to spend than us Whether we like it or not, we cannot buy success. We can buy good SPL quality players or their equivalent from other leagues . I have more ambitions for Celtic than that .

24 Mar 2015 18:39:08
The topic of the past few days seems to be John Guidetti. Now knowing how he likes a good ryhme I thought I would dedicate this:

"His name is John Guidetti, he seems to forgetti how to put the ball in the netti"

More to follow

24 Mar 2015 20:23:58
Ach Dn30 stop invading my territory lol Here is how to do it There's only one John Guidetti, lately he's been acting petty, he wants a move, but not just yet i, with Feyernoord he's had a tete a tete,

25 Mar 2015 00:29:37
His name was John Guidetti
He dined out on spaghetti
For the Celts He'd play
On Cup Final Day
And as he ran he got quite sweaty

Now Guidetti who was sweaty
In the game got rather Hetty
At the penalty kick
the ba' was nicked
but not put in the netty

Now this upset Guidetti
In fact it made him fretty
on the victory lap walk
he refused to talk
which all seemed rather petty

Hail Hail

25 Mar 2015 11:49:18
Theres only one john guidetti. The people debt wasn't gross it was netti.
now they've died they haven't stopped there lies walking in a zombie danger land.

24 Mar 2015 15:26:24
Soz about that ed ;) hail hail

{Ed007's Note - Aye and good bloody job as well.}

24 Mar 2015 09:05:24
One for DN30 here and all other Neil Lennon bashers with his foolish statement that Celtic "need" Sevco sorry Neil but NO WE DO NOT. The sychophantic Scottish press need them but Celtic are continuing to run at a profit without them and so now are most other Scottish clubs, so please Neil do not feed the press with their stories.

24 Mar 2015 11:57:37
I know I'm in a minority when it comes to this subject. No we don't "need" them at all. Like Hearts and Hibs also, could do with them though.

[Heads for the nearest exit]

24 Mar 2015 11:58:42
Totally agree tim scottish football is in a better shape financially as they all had to cut there cloth accordingly most if not all top flight clubs are run at a sustainable pace but it would b good to have a laugh at deluded people lol if they manage to crawl there way back from hell hail hail

24 Mar 2015 12:09:47
Cheers for mention Timalloy lol.

Everyone associated with club has a right to voice their opinion on matters, but Lennon doesn't have a clue what he is saying with that comment.

He should concentrate on keeping Bolton in championship

24 Mar 2015 12:27:24
If they get their house in order and put together a team who can push and challenge us it can only be a good thing imo. The same goes for Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd etc. but we can certainly survive without them, no worries. The competition is increasing year on year with Aberdeen giving us a decent run. Hearts will really fancy their chances of finishing high up the table next season so the likes of Aberdeen will try to strengthen and raise their game further which will hopefully motivate our players too.

24 Mar 2015 13:01:11
Using the word need implies that something is essential and as we have all seen, Rangers were not essential and armageddon did not happen.

In fact the demise of Rangers in many ways has benefitted the whole of Scottish football for these reasons:

1. It has been the catalyst for all top flight clubs to rethink their business model by cutting costs to live within your means, hiring younger managers due to lower cost (this has brought new ideas to the game) and trying to develop youth because you cannot afford to buy

2. The money from the top has actually trickled down this time and many of the clubs in the lower leagues have benefited from the TV money and extra match day revenues when Rangers have visited.

Saying all that the demise of Rangers has impacted on Celtic the most as we have seen a decline in season ticket sales (not all down to Rangers but now many people pick and choose their games rather than buy season ticket as before many people only bought one to ensure tickets for OF). We have also lost around 10M in revenue each year (according to PL) and as a result have had to sell 1-2 of our best players each season (think this is what Lennon was on about).

I think the fact we have streamlined things and are trying to develop players will only mean greater benefits when Rangers do make it to the SPFL. Hopefully then we won't need to sell any or at least fewer of the top players we develop and we can see if Ronny has what it takes to improve our fortunes in Europe.

24 Mar 2015 13:10:02
I wonder if that's what Lennon really thinks. People in his position can't really say anything else publicly.
I notice Kris Commons was saying much the same lately. It seems to be an unwritten rule that when anybody associated with Celtic is asked about this, they all say the same thing.
They have probably been advised to take this line so as to avoid getting death threats.
I personally would love it if we never played them again. I honestly don't miss them one bit.

24 Mar 2015 13:45:56
From a financial point of view we definetly need them as we've never sold out in a domestic match since their demise and any tv revenue as poor as it is would increase with them in the top flight.

{Ed007's Note - The TV deal can't increase

24 Mar 2015 14:45:45
I meant future tv deals not the current deal

24 Mar 2015 15:58:53
I was one of Lennon's greatest fans, but he has gone after doing us some service.
Now as the Manager of a struggling Championship team he owes it to Bolton to concentrate on trying to keep Bolton in the Championship.
I have as little regard for his thoughts on Scottish Footballer as I have of the musings of Sutton and Hartson.

24 Mar 2015 17:21:05
I think the team RD has created at this point is on a par with the one NL had that got to the last 16 of the champions league (Ronnys team plays better football though) Ronny has achieved this in less than a season without needing them in the league. I i also think that the last 2/3 seasons has been the best period in a long long time in terms of quality young players coming through in Scotland. So so no I don't think we or scottish football do need them, add in a return to all that vile hatred which they bring with them (and it will be worse than ever because they really believe all there troubles are everyone elses fault) then I would be happy if we never saw the horrible bigoted little club again. Markie

24 Mar 2015 18:47:17
Guys a lot o good points, there is no doubt we don't need them. But would we be in a better position with them? That's a resounding yes. PL has already stated we lose in the region of 10 m a year. That's a player or 2 every year or a extension to the youth system or an indoor facility. we are celtic supporters and while we follow thro and thro and we won't agree with everythin the board says or does I think we have to appreciate the difference this would make. Fuller stadium, another challenge from a new club why would we not welcome this, not to mention the fun we would have humpin them.

24 Mar 2015 21:54:21
We don't want or need the Govan mob except to laugh and sneer at their cheek . Rangers want us to believe that they have not died, yet they have walked from millions of debts . Their fans have continued to breach football and civil laws without any visible attempts by either the police or SFA to stop them .
Another continuance from pre 2012 Rangers is the partial treatment from referees and Officals towards the Rangers team . How could we wish to go through all that again, not only when they are playing us but any team that can match or better them on the playing pitch . Let's be honest for the foreseeable future, 5 years or more that's likely to be every team in the SPL that try to beat them .

25 Mar 2015 00:36:01
It was the undead who forced the financial mess in Scottish football during the Murray/Souness/Smith reign. They spent so much money (now we all know they really did not have it but that's another well discussed story). As a result the rest of the league tried to compete and the result is well documented. Now that they are not part of it, the clubs are getting their houses in order. We are spending within our means as are most clubs now. We have a larger fan base and income which allows us to compete at different levels at home and abroad. Do we need them back. not really. Especially the baggage they bring with them.