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24 Dec 2013 23:20:16
A merry Xmas to every Bhoy and Ghirl who contribute to the best Celtic site going . And to Ed 007 who makes it possible . Have a nice one . DH
{Ed007's Note - Thanks buddy, I hope you have a lovely time DH.}
24 Dec 2013 22:07:33
Some tremendous reading on here over the last few weeks, especially HB's posts.
All the best to Celts everywhere.
YNWA
LFC
And to u mate
Hail Hail
Chris 1888
24 Dec 2013 20:50:25
If all we've got to worry about is bringing banners into a stadium or how many millions we need to spend on players then spare a thought for our poor neighbours across the city, they've got nothing to look forward to 'cause they're skint.
Merry Christmas Bhoys and Ghirls!
MTH!
{Ed007's Note - Merry Christmas Rab.}
Merry Christmas to you and yours Ed have a nice one bud.
{Ed007's Note - And you and yours mate.}
Happy christmas ed, sorry i've been a bit of a pain, I just get a bit carried away sometimes, I did'nt mean any offence, I am not a racist, or a rangers supporter or a xenophobe, I won't post much in the new year, buena dia para manana as they say in granada.
{Ed007's Note - Don't go worrying about stupid stuff like that. If you're who I think you are, once the sun has came and went it's a new day. You can have as way out an opinion as you want (within reason), as long as you tag your posts! It let's people know who you are and allows them to interact better with you, and you will get a more respectful response from others. Controversial anonymous posts just look like trolls and add nothing to the site. Have a great Christmas hopefully I will see you on here in the New Year. Hail Hail.}
24 Dec 2013 18:15:12
Maybe all of this wash down of all things banner pyro groups of supporters fighting and damaging seats is part of a save our reputation to make CFC attractive for all the rights reasons. Maybe PL job in UEFA is for the good of CFC I'd rather see him inside pissing out that outside pissing in (hopefully I have the analogy correct didn't have time to google it) rather than him massaging his own ego. Perhaps we are looking at this too blinkered. I recall on a number of occasions (albeit in the press) people saying EPL didn't want then then old firm due to all the trash that could come with it (old co in Manchester classic example) so maybe it's part of a cunning plan from the old fox PL ahead of a new league opportunity.
of course I could be wrong and I'm sure everyone and their auntie will have thoughts on what I posted. This is not what I think just can't wait to read the reactions.
Ed, hope you and yours had a great Xmas. PL might be using Celtic to further his chances of getting his next big job but that's what nearly everyone does when they sign for Celtic. VvD was a nobody in Holland now because of the exposure he is receiving playing for our beloved club he is in with a chance of going to the WC in the summer. We play in a a crappy league and that is the way it is, we are in a good place and of course we need a couple of signings to be ready for the CL Quals. If we don't qual for the CL then the 14/15 Season will be over before it starts. The Board and Manager and most importantly the Fans know this. All the best when it comes, Hail Hail
TamTimTic
24 Dec 2013 17:24:23
May not see eye to eye with everyone on here, but first and foremost we're all Celtic fans. Hoopy Christmas to you all and your families when it comes. Have a good one! Hail Hail
{Ed007's Note - Merry Christmas HB.}
The same to you and your's mate, would be a boring world if we did'nt have our difference's Gawn The Hoops,
Tambhoy
{Ed007's Note - Aaawww bless them :)
24 Dec 2013 15:23:37
Have a great xmas when it comes folks hope the big fella treats yous all well. Have a good 1 ed mate. GunnieBhoy
{Ed007's Note - Merry Christmas Gunnie, have a great time.}
Merry Christmas one and all, hope Santa is good to us all, maybe a goal scoring c/f and a creative a/m in the stocking would be nice I've been a good bhoy this year, (promise)
HHThommyj
24 Dec 2013 13:16:27
Flags and Banners now allowed at Perth (or Inverness depending on who is reading this). Well done the Board and Celtic FC for talking sence to Police and St Johnstone. All you who were slagging the Board off, hang your head in shame, especially you HamiltonBhoy.
TamTimTic
{Ed007's Note - I never had you down as the gullible type Tam.}
TTT, if Liewell told you jumping off a bridge would get Celtic another European final would you do it? The way I see it is as follows:
PLC, St J and police ban flags/banners. PLC release a statement saying flags/banners are allowed. Some flags get into the ground, police go after a few CSC flags, fans defend them, folk get jailed. Next morning the rags are printing front and back page stories of "PERTH RIOT" claiming Celtic fans were fighting each other and police, urinated in the stands and sang sectarian songs for 90 mins. PLC release a statement on Friday putting this down to a "rogue element" which are a "small minority" and ban a few more fans. Then Lennon comes out and plays in to MSM's hands giving it they're not welcome, damaged reputation, backs the board, etc. Quite similarly to whit happened at Dundee last Boxing Day and Motherwell a few weeks ago!
This might not happen, I might just being over precautious and looking in to things too much. But I don't trust the board one bit!
Ed, I just love my Club and the Board is a part of it. When you think back to the Board we had and what we have now, they deserve our support. You cannot please everyone all of the time and all that. Let the signings commence in Jan. The signings will decide how we see the Board, flags and all that other stuff is neither here nor there. Merry Xmas to you and yours. Hail Hail
TamTimTic
{Ed007's Note - And to you mate. I hope you're right about some signings next month. Of course you're spot on about comparing the board to the pre-1994 one but I have became a little disillusioned with the whole club over the last few months, and I mean from the board to the manager and some of the players. I believe that Peter Lawwell is using the club for his own agenda, what that is though I don't know, a job with UEFA maybe? He could have went to England for more money a couple of times but he would have been a bit part player amongst some of the powerbrokers down there whereas up here he is the top-man.
I would hate to think that his silence over the Rangers fiasco was 'bought' by the promise of the new club' backing if he went for a job at UEFA.}
To be honest Hamilton bhoy your blowing this way out of proportion sounds like you want that to happen if police do confiscate flags/banners then you give them up and go in to watch match no trouble because the spotlight is firmly on this match due to it being on sly and media build up if you want to roll about over a flag/banner then your a clown who is not interested in football
Ayrshire bhoy
AyrshireBhoy, if we willingly give up flags and banners we're willingly giving up another one of rights at football matches. People laughed when I said it wouldn't be long until they clamp down on something else after songs and pyro, didn't take long to ban flags and banners. Next it'll be scarves and official merchandise!
Maybe we will need to go to the games in scud will they fine the club for waving flags or banners could cause outrage if they did all over the world if football well hope everyone has a good Christmas and new year
Seasons Greetings from a very windy north ayrshure
Ayrshire bhoy
{Ed007's Note - Merry Christmas buddy.}
Haha AyrshireBhoy, the Italian's done not far off it last season. Early evening kick offs the away fans turned up with dinner plates and bowls, late evening they turned up in their pj's lol. Merry Christmas buddy!
24 Dec 2013 10:23:27
If Ledley takes a close look (as Sutton said) at the players who have left Celtic, who has actually gone on to better things.
Do you really think Hooper is happy at Norwich? An average team that are flirting with a relegation scrap. Wanyama has signed for a team who have started well but seem to be in a blip at the moment. I remember Liam Miller, Mark Burchill. Ledley has far more class but as good as Petrov was his career never got better than Celtic. Villa are not a big club.
If Ledley (as linked with today) thinks Crystal Palace would be a good move he is deluded. Even Cardiff at the moment would be risky.
Bee Bee
Money talks these days. Apart from henrik thers no many a can think of that went onto better things. GunnieBhoy
24 Dec 2013 11:18:25
Ledley as good as petrov not for me m8 not even close. Good player certainly not a 30,000 grand a week top earner dosent do enough. 30 000 a week in Scotland you should be a stand out
If you take the sentiment and our love of Celtic out of it, it is the right professional decision to make. I don't know if the rumour of a pay cut is true, but at his age this is his last big deal.
The frustrating thing for me is once again the timing. We need to adopt a hard line approach to players contracts.If they won't re-sign with eight months to go start phasing then out the team, this let's young players see a pathway to the first team.
Ledley has been a good player for us, and we have been good for him.If he moves I wish him well, but the standard of team being linked with him is very average. But the thought of a possible £1m signing on fee is a great leveller.
Ledley doesn't compare to Petrov.
Any good players we get unfortunately have to play in SP which doesn't challenge them and take them to their highest level. Hence when we go to CL, even say with £6m pound guys, we're not sharp enough against clubs that play at that level week in week out. SP doesn't prepare anyone for CL.
Everton fan here just wanted know about Ledley. Just replying to monkey, Wanyama and Hooper left Celtic because they wanted to play in a bigger league, now you might argue that the champions league was offered to them but it's only for what 6 games? Or if you luckily get into the top 16 or quarter finals no disrespect but just making a point here.
Tbh, outside the top 6-8 clubs in England the rest are on par with the current Celtic and even Sevco. The players who left for "a bigger league" gave up 6-8 big games a year for 12-16 in my opinion. Aw, and don't forget that bumper wage packet that we could've financially afforded but point blank refused to compromise.
24 Dec 2013 19:42:51
petrov will always be remembered around celtic park and the supporters so please do not mention ledley in the same sentence being said to be similar to stan. don't get me wrong ledley has been good for us but stan was amazing even down to the time he could of left but signed a contract and got us the money for him. I was only young then so if I get some details wrong sorry boys
i missed stan when he went but the thing I ask will we miss ledley? for me its a no
merry christmas to all. hope you have a great day/few weeks haha
Stan signed a new deal so celtic could get a good transfer for him too.
24 Dec 2013 01:26:44
So I've just seen on that the back of tomorrow's Record is running the story on Flag-Gate:
"YOU MADE A RIGHT FARCE OF THAT
3:05 Celtic reveal on their website that flag and banner ban has been lifted
4:30 Baffled police and St Johnstone officials deny making dramatic U-turn
9:05 It emerges Celtic dialled wrong number and spoke to ICT official not Saints"
This is becoming a very bad joke, serious questions need to be asking wtf is going on at our club?!
100% right HB, are these people really running OUR club.I find it hard to believe that year after year I put myself in debt to help pay these persons salaries (the board).In any other business if you spoke about your business with one competitor to another your feet wouldn't touch the ground on the way out the door.
It Has to be a load of nonsense, so at no point in Time did the person on the Phone mention they were? Or Even better not ask why Celtic thought they were playing ICT on boxing Day?
So now we, re believing what's being reported in that so called newspaper . DH
Daily Record. enough said!
You're right HB, the board should resign, Neil Lennon should be sacked and Peter Lawell publicly executed.
Tell me, how often do you believe the Daily Ranger or is it only when it fits with this hate campaign you're currently conducting?
CBP
I couldn't give a toss about flags banners at games I go to watch football and if some tosser is waving a flag in front of me like they were at shakhtar game as I sat with a mate in public sales section I tell them to stop it in a few choice words do it at halftime or full time when game is not on I was on the point of exploding with this clown at one point I really do not mind flags or banners but when it blocks my view of match then it bothers me
Ayrshire bhoy
It's now on SLY as well so there's no smoke without fire?
I fully appreciate the sevco allegiances and agenda's against Celtic by the DR, SLY and S(evco)TV Sport, but at a time when we should be absolutely flying and totally, untouchable in Scotland - we are repeatedly scoring some amount of own goals and gaffs on and off the park and there should be no excuses.
The club needs to get a grip and if the latest farce is indeed another piece of Media manipulation they need to make a strong stance.
JJ
Why not believe the record as they have named quotes and celtic have removed their official statement from the web page. Celtic need to come out and answer why they lied as at a very big push they might have phoned the ict security instead of st Johnstone but they also said they spoke to the police which clearly they didn't.
Jim
SoG and CBP well said the Daily Ranger talks pi$* at the best of times. They only print that to steer the attention away from Fat Sally who has told his Board he beeds MORE players for the Championship. As long as the bus driver knows were we are playing on Boxing day that is the only thing that matters. Flags, Banners, who cares, support our team with a scarf and a song, please leave the flares and smoke bombs at home. I don't have any medical condition but I want to enjoy the game not watch it through smoke. Hail Hail
TamTimTic
I don't believe the ICT farce story.
I think the club was probably right but police back tracked afterwards as it made them look weak.
It's a minor issue about a minor irrelevant issue.
I also agree with the guy above, there's defo a hate campaign against our great club in here such that I'm actually thinking HB is a SEVCO (and the Ed).
Enemies without and Enemies within methinks.
Hail Hail
Listen, I was born in 1989 and have been a STH on and off (financial restrictions bearing) since 1997. Regardless of having a ST or not I attend about 90% of away games, preseason and Europe included, every year. The people I meet on a weekly basis at games are the ones who are against the current collusion of PLC, Police Scotland, MSM and Scottish government. Some may not care, mostly armchair fans, but regulars want to maintain not only our founding principles and heritage but our basic human rights! I will give every ounce of blood, sweat and tears to make sure the club that's been in my family for generations doesn't get downgraded to SPFL size or go through the continued Hibernification process of eradicating everything that's ever made this club special. It's time to stand up and be counted, not be a bedwetters to what others think and apologising to everyone on the behalf of what others believe in. Time to end this revisionistic era at Celtic Park before it's too late!
@9: Well said TTT
Unfortunately we have a militant element among our fan base who believe that their misguided and self-interpreted definitions of "human rights" are more important that the greater good of the club.
I have said it before and I'll say it a thousand times. if anyone has an issue with the law then deal with it in a respectful and appropriate manner, and one which doesn't make you look like a total tw*t. Leave your political gripes outside Celtic Park and collect them again on your way home. Take them to the pub and take them to your bed but do not take them to our club because they are not welcome.
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
But why is a pub or household an appropriate place for political debate, or anywhere outside the ground as you put it, but not inside a football stadium Chris?
St Johnstone v Celtic
By: Newsroom Staff on 24 Dec, 2013 12:07
FOR clarity, Celtic Football Club has received confirmation that flags and banners will now be permitted at the match against St Johnstone on Boxing Day.
Last week, Celtic Football Club noted the advice given by local police regarding safety, flags and banners at the match.
We acknowledge we had not received final confirmation yesterday in terms of a change. However, we are pleased, following consultation and discussion over the past couple of days, that the initial decision has been reviewed by the Police and St Johnstone FC.
As we have said, football is about colour and atmosphere and creating a positive occasion for all and everything should be done to ensure that such an event can take place.
However, we should also bear in mind that supporter safety is of paramount importance and we would re-iterate, therefore, that we do not welcome any form of pyrotechnics or smoke bombs at our matches.
We want to see our matches played in a positive and safe atmosphere and we hope this will be the case on Boxing Day.
The problem with society and the potential loss of freedom is that it is inherently linked to people detatching everyday life from politics. Life is about politics whether this fact is liked or not.
We are subject to laws decided by political leaders who in turn decide on these laws based upon financial and national interests. Who controls the national interest is a very good question as is who controls the financial interest.
Sanitising or attempting to sanitise ourselves from politics is sheer folly. It effectively by opting out leaves us vulnerable to the ruling class. All national political and bloodline rulers abuse their power. Governments monopolise and centralise power and then systematically reduce your freedoms. HB does us all a great service by fighting for everyones freedoms.those jumping on the bandwagon to snipe at an easy target really need to think a little more deeply before taking cheap shots. The problem with removing discussion of politics from football is that then it is removed from the pub the Universities the institutions and eventually the ballot box. The further ridiculousness is obvious and I laboured this point at the time is the FIFA UEFA are hugely inconsistent some would say
hypocritics as they introduce and support politics in football on many levels. It just has to be the type of political figure or subject they and the offshore banks who control them want to pedal. I despair when well informed committed decent young men are pillioried by so called fans who think there is no place for politics in football. If that's your thoughts it strikes me why have there not been post after post about the politics brought in by FIFA Uefa etc. Oh I see if its popular and if you have been brainwashed and conditioned into supporting these policies and politics then its ok as it makes you a fair and decent person and better than others. Really people wake up. This isn't abput flares flags and smoke bombs its about civil liberties mass manipulation and control and the future structures of society. Sopotcelt.
@13. because we accepted the rules of the association to be allowed to participate. TinyTim
@15 Sopocelt you know I am not politically minded, you are and you say HB is also, why then don't you and he put your name forward to be politician's, also is there not something, where if you get enough signature's, you can ask to have your problem spoken about in parliment, as I say Sopocelt, I do not know a lot, if anything about politic's but thought it an idea to take your fight to these people, in there own back yard. Might be completly off track, I'm sure you and HB will tell me
Tambhoy