Celtic Banter Archive October 23 2020

23 Oct 2020 21:28:44
Long time reader first time poster. it's time that all Celtic fans unite to sack the board. The lack of direction at the club is alarming. Neil Lennon is damaged goods that will be lucky to get a job on this page as an admin.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not 🤷‍♂️ If it is then welcome aboard and if it's not..... well you're already on thin ice ya wee fud! 😜

23 Oct 2020 21:40:54
It’s a compliment, happy to be amongst fellow fans. I honestly believe that Neil Lennon needs to win on Sunday or its game over. I do however think that we will win by a couple at least.

{Ed007's Note - Well thank you for the kind sentiments. If we play like we did last night we'll beat Aberdeen.}

23 Oct 2020 22:16:05
Sunday is win or bust for the manager IMO. i will never forget Lennons service as a player and manager, and will never hound him, but Sunday has got to be a win! Last nite while being better in the 2nd half was still really poor both defensively and offensively! We’re not rite in Either department. for me it’s the manager and teams body language rite now! And the manager is constantly contradicting himself in just about every interview! Hope they shove my doubts down ma throat and go and skelp the sheep shaggers! Nothing would please me more!

23 Oct 2020 23:01:55
They say the players have all the power and never more so on Sunday. We've heard about the unsettled players, the in-house fights and the disharmony in the squad. Therefor, a bad performance or half-hearted shift at Pittodrie could be a knife in the back for the manager.
On the other hand, a resurgent Celtic team (with the correct personnel in the right positions) , that is prepared to work hard and stop the rot, could give him a lifeline?

23 Oct 2020 23:06:38
Hahaha that made me laugh louder than it should. Ya wee fud 😂😂😂.

23 Oct 2020 23:43:21
Who replaces him, my money's on GS, need someone who knows what this season means. no more room for error.

23 Oct 2020 23:45:20
still pissin ma frillies.

24 Oct 2020 03:28:21
That’s all wee need Neil Lennon on the page blameing the other Ed’s for the live chat not working . Him and aindoh bickering about brown would be funny though . He can keep chewing that horrible Tabacco on the training ground and not around here .

23 Oct 2020 22:50:42
FFS Ed, never envisaged the words "Ya we fud" coming from you 😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - 😁

23 Oct 2020 16:17:20
I hate SLY and we are stuck with them for another 5 years.
They have just announced they are showing the Sevco V Aberdeen game on Sunday 22nd November.
Rather than the Hibs V Celtic game which will be on the Saturday @ 3pm kickoff.
It will also give them an extra day after the International games.
That will be our 3rd away game out of 8 league games that SLY have refused to show already this season.
I hope Hibs let us buy the game because Celtic refused to let the Hibs fans purchase our home game.

23 Oct 2020 18:58:50
gerrard love affair its a shambles.

23 Oct 2020 19:33:33
True Liam
SLY have released that they are showing their away games live on TV.
That’ll be 9 away games out of 9 will be shown.
It’s what we have come to expect from that channel.
Remember their translation from the Morelos interview,
Tells us what they think of our club.
The only surprise was that Celtic received an apology from the channel.

23 Oct 2020 19:47:58
Buzz, could it be that perhaps their games are getting more views from North and South of the border therefore it makes better commercial sense to show their games than ours?

23 Oct 2020 20:02:41
Could be the delusion that the sevvies are a big club and not an 8 year old debt ridden shambles. Unfortunately for you titles aren't won in October. Till then keep going for 1 as the 54 belong to another Club.

23 Oct 2020 20:03:50
That could be the case MGC but it’s not as if Celtic are playing Hamilton away.
Celtic have only won once in about 8 league games at Easter Road.
It’s a very strange decision that looks personal.

25 Oct 2020 13:32:03
Sly have always had the real rangers at heart. Their coverage of Scottish football is woeful compared to BT. IPTV has seen many unsubscribe from their extortionate packages.

23 Oct 2020 15:40:47
Was just reading what the Italian press were saying about our performance last night. They said Celtic played a linear style of football, of course I didn't know what linear meant so looked it up and it means progressing from one stage to another in series of steps. Sums up our style at the moment perfectly, making 20 passes and progressing 3 yards or sometimes even regressing. Ball goes across back then out wide then back along back line out to other side, into the midfield, back to the centre half, along the back line again, then give away possesion. Mind numbing stuff to watch. IMO Broony is central to this type of play, if we must play Ntcham it's got to be in Broonys position, or why not give Soro a shot in there. We need younger legs playing that role to get the play moving quicker.

23 Oct 2020 17:18:31
I would say Calmac as guilty as anyone. Keep an eye on the volume of side and backward passes he makes.

23 Oct 2020 17:34:42
Brendan always said that his biggest strength was not giving the ball away.
Maybe it’s too static up front with nobody making a run because it’s not like him.

23 Oct 2020 18:31:02
I think Broonys problem these days is he plays too safe, always choosing the easy pass because if he gives it away he doesn't have the legs to get it back.

23 Oct 2020 18:51:31
30 passes with no end product give me 3 passes and a goal from head or foot like Milan and sevco.

23 Oct 2020 21:38:44
Brown doesn't have the confidence or the legs to get the ball and then move forward past an opponent, that's why he passes it back or sideways, that's why I say his best position is now coming on from the bench .

25 Oct 2020 13:33:39
That's because he's not a defensive midfielder and runs around tidying up Brown's mistakes.

23 Oct 2020 14:46:18
Hi Ed, have you heard the rumours of lennon having a go at the squad on Monday? And a few of them having a go back about his behaviour and demeanour over the last few weeks. Apparently few of the players accusing him of showing up smelling of alcohol and picking on certain players?
You think there's any truth in in or just someone at the wind up?
Sounds similar to the stories before he left hibs.

{Ed007's Note - It sounds exactly like something that's been made up on Twitter and supposedly came from a private Snapchat thing - and nothing like what happened at Hibs at all - in other words it's made up nonsense.
How the Hell will anyone stink of booze if they have their mouth full of chewing tobacco?}

23 Oct 2020 15:09:35
No bother ed, I wasn't too sure what to make of it. Loads of stuff going around at the minute, had to filter it all i suppose.

23 Oct 2020 15:43:06
Same as the rumours doing the rounds that it’s all Gavin Strachans fault, him and Lennon don’t get on and the players are saying the training isn’t up to scratch and Strachans tactics are bizarre and Lennon can’t/ won’t intervene all done/ said to compound the misery.

{Ed007's Note - Has anyone blamed the Adidas strips yet? Let's not forget the royals are German.....

23 Oct 2020 21:02:12
German reptiles?

{Ed007's Note - 😂😂

23 Oct 2020 21:10:04
🤣🤣🤣.

25 Oct 2020 13:34:05
Haha Ed😂😂It's Sevco and their Sevconians posting tripe because we have lost a few games (they lost a Club) that's as good as it gets for them. We will hit the ground running V Aberdeen and go up a few gears and have the hunger and drive that has been missing so far. If Sevco are flying and were a mess being 4 points behind with a game in had isn't to bad considering players injured, poor form so far. They will have a run of injuries and set backs. Keep the Faith!

23 Oct 2020 14:34:07
It was once the job of opposition supporters and our enemies to single out and attack, hurl abuse, insult, demonise and strip our players of confidence in order to disrupt the team, now that job seems to have been handed to us while opposition fans and enemies sit back and enjoy us doing the job for them.

23 Oct 2020 12:36:53
Not sure what team NL has been watching but the comments today, "we are making too much of ONE result, ONE performance " doesn't ring true with me. I've seen lots of performances this year that have left a lot to be desired. In fact I can only think of 1 or 2 where we have played well. If he plays Ntcham at Aberdeen then pn his head be it. He is a quality footballer but this league ain't for him, especially at places like Pittodrie when aggression and commitment come 1st.

23 Oct 2020 14:15:11
Most supporters will agree that we have very rarely played as well as we expect and quite a few of the players are underperforming.
If recent press comments and media interviews reflect what he really thinks then we are all in trouble.
Possibly he has learned not to be too open and frank after the CL exit revelations, when he had to backtrack?
If he does start at Aberdeen with Ntcham, (with McGregor and Brown) and we don't get a result, the pressure on him to quit will escalate.

23 Oct 2020 14:40:20
I think if Lenny plays our 6th choice CB in a back 3 and we don’t win, then he is never going to learn.
We can use the excuse of injuries and C. V but Celtic weren’t playing well when we had those players available.
I thought guys like Edouard would start performing after the transfer window closed but then the International break came and everything else that came with it.

23 Oct 2020 14:51:29
What 1 performance was he talking about? The ferencvaros game, sevco game or every other league game this season (bar Hamilton) were we have bee poor.

23 Oct 2020 15:43:55
For me lennon coming out with that nonsense about one performance one result is a joke. Most of the performances this season so far have been well below par. And if Lennon think it's only one performance and result then we are in more trouble than we think.

24 Oct 2020 11:26:15
Played not bad against hibs the rest has been dross hh.

23 Oct 2020 10:42:38
Right now every team in Europe that we play must be running there hands as we are a soft touch. we are far too passive where's the crunching tackles and will to win. sun is huge now there can be no slip ups as Rangers will hammer livi. how the eff have ended up in this mess.

23 Oct 2020 11:18:41
Mally this ain’t a mess wee just need to pull our socks up Sunday can’t come quick ehnough for me till wee right a few wrongs .

{Ed007's Note - There's been a complete overreaction to last night's defeat, D & P. Anyone who expected us to get anything against Milan were deluding themselves.}

23 Oct 2020 11:31:45
I’m more optimistic with our second half display.
I don’t mind playing a 3-5-2 against teams who park the bus but to play it against teams who can exploit the spaces down the wings is criminal.
We should be able to switch formations at any time.
I was astounded on Saturday when Lennon said they were sticking with a 3-5-2 because they hadn’t trained with the 4 at the back system.
That is worrying.

23 Oct 2020 11:32:23
Long-term complacency by all concerned, some staleness, selling star players and replacing with inferior quality - many of which never make the grade and we actually lose money, failure to address key areas of the team, fitness levels dropping, realization and fear.

23 Oct 2020 11:38:24
Ed last night matters not a jot as you say but the Dons could be a potential P45 case for the gaffer.

{Ed007's Note - It does matter, the performance against a team leading Serie A was a massive improvement on what we've been watching recently. If we play like we did last night against Aberdeen we'll be taking 3 points.}

23 Oct 2020 11:41:58
Celtic Mad
I’m starting to question what Gavin Strachan brings to the table.
Duff played at a high pressured level for his country and clubs and we replace him with a guy who I think played and coached in the lower divisions in England.
Usually we hear the coaches getting praise from the players but I haven’t heard anybody praise Gavin for the job he is doing.
It does look like Lennon needs help before they all lose their jobs.

{Ed007's Note - Coaches do what the manager tells them to do but what level did guys like Moyes, Carlos Queiroz, Mourinho or even Klopp play at, Leon?}

23 Oct 2020 11:51:58
I hope Lennon realises the second half performance and team formation is the way to go against Aberdeen and in next few games until we get our other big players back including French Eddie, we need to batten down the hatches and play our way through this rough period, but we need some help from our manager like giving young Turnbull a chance to bring his energy to our midfield and Rogic looked better last night too.

23 Oct 2020 12:19:05
Ed do you seriously think Lennon tells the coaches how to go about there business and what he wants I know he should but whether he does is a different story.

{Ed007's Note - Of course he does.}

23 Oct 2020 12:37:34
The buck stops with Lennon and I agree he dictates the training methods, but there seems to be a marked difference since Duff left. Usually you see most managers having a con-fab with their assistants and getting feedback/ advice in solving problems; but in our Tech Area you see grim faced blank stares - like waiting on a court verdict!

23 Oct 2020 12:50:06
Ed.
I get what you are saying because John Kennedy doesn’t have much playing experience due to his horrific injury and he has been praised for being a good coach.
Could Celtic not have got a coach who could also give the manager advice if they have previous knowledge and experience at a higher level.
I think we lowered the bar appointing Strachan to replace Duff and I know your thinking but we done the exact same thing with Brendan and Lennon.

{Ed007's Note - Lennon definitely needs help to find his best team/tactics and that's where a DOF would have came in handy. Strachan is a far more experienced coach than Duff and I'd expect him to have a better knowledge of what's required, whether the manager listens to him or not is another matter. Kennedy is apparently a great coach who the players all listen to and respect, the only "bad" thing I've ever heard said about him is that he needs to have more confidence in his ideas
Maybe Lennon only talks football with his drinking buddies. Why not ask Chris Sutton to come in as a coach, he's always got plenty to say about what's wrong?}

23 Oct 2020 12:51:44
2nd half was decent but any balls into our box right now causes carnage. we can't defend simple balls and frimpong has to improve as his final ball is awful we also don't create enough chances.

23 Oct 2020 13:39:25
Ed people would hang people before the verdict has come out on here. let's see where wee are as a team by Christmas before we get the torches and pitchforks out.

{Ed007's Note - Unless there's a upcoming disaster I think that's the plan.}

23 Oct 2020 13:45:15
Absolutely 100% the buck stops with Lennon but as far as I'm led to believe he leaves the coaching to the coaches and that's not telling them what he wants and then leave them it's leaving them be.

{Ed007's Note - Well what's the problem then because Kennedy would just continue using training drills set by Rodgers if it was left up to him to decide? Why is Lennon pictured at training everyday?}

23 Oct 2020 13:13:17
Thanks for your intake Ed.
I’ve heard Lawwell will be leaving at the end of the season and there will be a new manager.
Do you think then a DOF will be employed next season in the new shake up?
Your right about the good coaches not playing at a good level.
Did Mourinho not start off as an interpreter for Bobby Robson at Barcelona and how did he end up one of the best coaches in the world?
I like the fact you mentioned Gavin is more experienced coach than Duff and I hope and still believe everything will eventually fall into place this season.
Talking about Sutton. He mentioned at half time Celtic have hit rock bottom.
I hope he is right and the only way is up from now on until the end of the season.

{Ed007's Note - I've heard that as well about Lawwell and I'd like to think the board will adopt a more modern approach and go with a DOF.}

23 Oct 2020 14:57:22
I totally agree with Ed. There was no chance of us beating AC Milan When we changed formation we played far better than I have seen over the last few weeks. The Lennon out Brigade will have to wait a little longer as we will gub Aberdeen and go on a run if we play the way we can like we saw in the second half last night.

23 Oct 2020 15:19:53
Pud I’m in your camp mate roll on Sunday 👍🍀🍀 keep the faith Bhoys.

23 Oct 2020 19:10:57
ed im not defending lennon mate and by the looks of it by the way we are messing about with the ball at the back passing it back and sideways then it could very well be that kennedy is using the same drills.

{Ed007's Note - OK then, so who in your opinion is deciding the formation and team we play with?}

23 Oct 2020 20:57:28
i think its more of a joint decision than you think.

{Ed007's Note - Decisions are always best made with a joint.}

23 Oct 2020 21:33:49
hahaha il take your word for it mate.

{Ed007's Note - Aye right, Liam 😉

23 Oct 2020 10:28:21
Duffy plays better in a back 4. Checked Brighton formations when we game was playing, he’s not used to 3 at the back. Macgregor got in his way. Christie offers more going forward than Brown. Ntcham is a luxury. Rogic? Eh?!
Team for Sunday

Barkas
Welsh Ajer Duffy Laxalt
Turnbull Macgregor Christie
Frimpong Ajeti Moi

Subs: Brown, Taylor, Bain, Soro, Dembele, Rogic, Klimala, Ntcham, Ralston.

23 Oct 2020 11:19:57
The last game at Aberdeen we had a hard time with the 352 and switched to 4 at the back only for Ajer at RB to pop up with the winner. Question is will NL see that or be as stubborn as always.

23 Oct 2020 11:29:16
Frimpong is an empty Jersey who flatters to deceive.

23 Oct 2020 11:57:25
I said it further down the page BigBulbs player ajer at RB and Taylor at Lb to solidify the defence.
Christie and laxalt infront to go full on attack.

23 Oct 2020 12:41:17
Kev83, agree re Frimpong.
Moi is the same as is Ntcham. All got ability but don't show it often enough, lack of heart/ desire/ dig/ bottle call it whatever but they lack it.

23 Oct 2020 12:44:42
Kev I think the issue is on the wings when playing a back 4. Christie is ineffective there and as you said Frimpong is overrated. Could really be doing with Forrest back.

23 Oct 2020 13:34:42
Christie has played and scored plenty from that position but it also give the attacking players license to move around and interchange.

23 Oct 2020 09:07:16
Lots to do and not a lot of time to solve the problems
Team selection, fitness, form, style and tactics
Some better moments last night but still the same errors need addressing
NL hasn't his worries to seek if he comes through this he will be a real manager.

23 Oct 2020 10:51:33
Jonace your mad, Lennon one way or another can’t be allowed to stay on for another season.

Salzburg manage to get good managers playing good attacking football and various other clubs do it as well. Celtic need to get someone that can manage, change a game and be tactically aware. Lennon has proven time and again he can’t

He should have been let go after that cup final win, instead we have to suffer one horrible display after another, listen to him talking tripe after each game and see him looking clueless on the touch line .

23 Oct 2020 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 23rd October 2020