Celtic Banter Archive November 23 2017

23 Nov 2017 18:48:19
I'm under no illusion regarding the gulf in class. In the main but not always you get what you pay for. But-we won't put 7 past Brechin and most agreed the gap between Celtic and Brechin is bigger than the gap between Celtic and PSG. So for me and I'm a massive Brendan fan who hopes he's here for years to come he has demonstrated (1) he can set up a team to attack anybody even last night we'd chances (2) he is tactically astute and can change a game when its not going to plan but (3) what he hasn't shown is that he can put out a team set up not to lose. Even the great Jock Stein had to do that on one occasion with the greatest Celtic team of all time. ☘️.

23 Nov 2017 19:26:20
I actually thought we where better last night than then home game psg have world class man for man apart from maybe there keeper before the game I would have took 4-1 the problem we have is to many individual errors.

23 Nov 2017 19:48:16
Spot on JFP. Brendan seems unable to set up a defensively minded team when facing obviously better opponents. I'm not sure why he sees this as such a no go but hopefully this will change. You can't lose if you don't concede. But there seems to be a lot of people on here who forget (or weren't born) the genuinely bad YEARS (not matches) . I was born in the mid seventies and growing with them winning 9 in a row was real embarrassment.

23 Nov 2017 19:49:03
Agreed Gordo I think we were better last night but I think we're still better than 7-1. I'd have taken a 3-0 defeat but I think we seem to lack belief plus as I said I think Rodgers needs a reality check with respect to his purist approach. ☘️.

23 Nov 2017 20:08:59
Agreed VT! I grew up watching Celtic win 9 in a row and thought as a wee laddie Celtic just always won the league! Think how hard I took their 9 in a row and their huddle at Celtic Park. God Bless Tommy Burns it took a greater toll on him. But I wouldn't swap ma Celtic top for all the EPL tops in the world. Brendan needs to wisen up though to the fact you need to fight the fight the way the odds suit you. ☘️.

23 Nov 2017 21:03:01
Too true mate. When almost all of EPL lot are bust,
we'll still be here. Hail hail.

23 Nov 2017 21:19:13
I wouldn't say we lacked belief as we could have been 2 up before they scored I think we just crumbled jfp we can only learn from this I can see Brendan Rodgers thinking about not changing because would oh rather lose trying to win or lose trying not to get beat.

23 Nov 2017 22:14:01
It was like Tyson v Bruno when we scored. Then the commentator said “he’s hurt Tyson” When we all new he’d just woke up a monster (PSG) . We will probably have better luck in Europa but don’t really like the Thursday night stuff. It wrecks our domestic scene.

24 Nov 2017 09:06:19
Jfp1888 we could easily score 7 against Brechin
Last season we took
6 off Kilmarnock
5 off the rangers
4 off aberdeen
All SPFL teams.

25 Nov 2017 21:08:27
you people are lucky i was born in forties rangers dominated
celtic all the time i was grown up it was not till jock took over till we had great succes. something that brendan has done took a bunch of medi players and turned them into football players. be thankful what you see now because the tide will turn i hope i am not here to see that day
ps. i hope live for another thirty years mon the tic.

23 Nov 2017 14:10:08
I'm a spurs fan who also loves Celtic, when the English media laugh at Celtic's poor performance in the champions league need to get real. Psg front 3 would be enough to buy the whole of Celtic football club lol . Like I said many of times if Celtic had the revenue if most of the European clubs they would be winning the champions league as well. I bet neymars one week wages would pay the whole squad wages for a few weeks. I will always be proud of the bohys whatever the results.

23 Nov 2017 14:20:50
i can see the same outcome if liverpool or man utd get them.

23 Nov 2017 15:10:23
PSG may well beat the English clubs but I doubt that they would put 7 past them.
I love what Rodgers has done for our club, but he doesn't seem to learn any lessons as regards European football. We really have to become better organised against these teams and make ourselves more difficult to beat
I don't expect us to go away from home against these teams and win, but we shouldn't be letting 5,6,and 7 goals past us so often, we should at least be able to keep the score down.
The problem is that it's not just happening against the big guns of Europe, we scored 5 goals against Astana at home but still managed to concede 4 in the away leg, we lost to Lincoln red imps last season, and only just held on against Hapoel, again after scoring 5 in the home leg.
I don't know if it's tactics, or whether some players are just not good enough, but we really have to try and do something about it.
Last week England, Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland (at least in the away leg) all played superior opposition, but they were all well organised and kept their games very tight.
That is what we should be aiming for.

23 Nov 2017 16:04:24
. with biton at right back.

23 Nov 2017 16:57:14
Gerryc i agree with what your saying I don't know if it's just Brendan's inability to organise a defensive setup or just too stubborn to change from his attacking philosophy but your right I don't think many people thought we could go there and get a result so why not organise the team to make it more difficult for them hit them on the break occasionally and limit their scoring chances. on a side note the FFP regulations are a complete joke salary caps and transfer budget caps are required now I think it is getting beyond a joke also the fact they were allowed to take mbappe on loan after his transfer was blocked just makes a mockery of the FFP reg's.

23 Nov 2017 17:06:16
digibanger, that's the whole point, we shouldn't be in a position where we are playing this level of opposition with players playing out of position. You can probably get away with doing that in our league, but you won't get away with it in Europe.
In my opinion we badly need a goalkeeper who gives confidence to the defence, and we also need a Centre half who can read the game at that level.
As I said previously, we aren't just struggling to contain the elite teams in Europe, the smaller teams are finding us a soft touch as well.
We have good forward players who can cause problems for most teams, but they've got no chance to shine whilst we are conceding this amount of goals.

23 Nov 2017 17:53:38
Feel sorry for Bitton he's only playing were he's told to. Probably be out the door soon but to put the guy in defence against a team like that was bordering on cruelty. Blame for that lies squarely with BR and the board.

24 Nov 2017 22:52:35
oh

biton and right back - and facing naymar

I am surprised it was only 7.

25 Nov 2017 08:06:05
Well he could have moved McGregor to right back, and brought on Armstrong to midfield.

23 Nov 2017 12:29:17
BR cannot go into europe with the same mentality, tactics, and formations, he needs to adjust and adapt to the better teams who we know that we cannot beat, and hope for a draw and not a humiliation, lenny and O'neil knew their limitations, although they had some decent defenders. The team needs Quality defenders and a goalkeeper, the fans can see this, why can't a manager or board see this. Hopefully January. Hail.

23 Nov 2017 12:59:55
I went away on 11 euro trios with Martins team. We didn't win one. Away from home we were utter shite mostly.

The problem, as dugs in the street do, it's our defence and keeper that are dragging us down.

One great thing about last nights mauling is, we need to address it. Last night could well be the ball booting Rogers and Lawell need to buy defenders. Giving Doris an extension doesn't bode well for their judgement though.

Minds should be focused, but, it's Celtic we are talking about, so, don't hid yer breath. :)

Hopefully though, this can be another watershed like the semi final defeat.

It has to be.

23 Nov 2017 10:24:32
Last night showed again that when we come up against the elite of europe that we cannot try and play the same way we do in domestic football as we are never going to have the amount of time we have on the ball as we do in scotland and also we must have a plan b were we can try and play ugly football and shut the game down because to give the amount of space to world class players and silly passes in our own half and give the ball away 20 yards from out goal is suicide football, sometimes play the ball long to moussa get players around him to pick up the second ball and even if we lose the ball it is not 20 yards from our goal
Enough of that now on to hampden to win first of three.

23 Nov 2017 13:32:21
BR Jan wish list must be CH and a number 10 with real quality simple as that what's your thoughts EDs.

{Ed007's Note - A 'keeper is more a priority than any other position and until we have some quality between the sticks we're going to struggle in Europe. Why go out and splash millions on a CB when the weakest link in the team is still behind him?}

23 Nov 2017 17:04:35
Aye start at the back but that's no going to happen wae de vrice signing an extension but definitely need both and a number 10 for me is needed someone who can keep ball and pass it right too I know it's no even Dec but have u heard anything possible targets ED?

{Ed007's Note - Nah, nothing yet.}

23 Nov 2017 17:06:50
Mostly agree Ed that CG is a very weak link but I personally could not fault him too much last night, especially the goals. They saw our right side of defence was weak and that was where they hit us hard.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not meaning for games against your PSGs and I'm not blaming Gordon - or anyone else - for last night but Gordon has consistently let us down on the European stage, all the way back to his first season and playing in the EL.
At European level we will always risk conceding with Gordon in goal no matter who the opposition are.
His constant palming the ball into back into the danger area, decision making at coming for balls and his well known weakness at his near post will always cost us. Although his mistakes are rarely punished in the SPFL, he still makes them and at the higher level they will be punished.
Gordon is a good shot-stopper but he isn't a good goalkeeper.}

25 Nov 2017 07:58:56
Brown gave the ball away for the 1st, some fantastic play for the 2nd, then the heads went down, was talking to a sensible hun today, and he made a point that the Celtic players looked as though they didn’t believe they can compete with these teams, and I agree slightly, but PSG are an outstanding team, and will beat a few teams this year with similar score lines, as much as I hate saying it, that wee shite Neymar is one of the best players in Europe at this moment.

25 Nov 2017 08:03:42
Got to agree ed but surely it's not out with our means to get a quality centre half and a better keeper.

23 Nov 2017 09:08:39
The bottom line is we don't belong in the CL! . really? . that's rubbish. sure we were taken apart by the best team in the world at the moment. twice. but if we are not good enough for the CL then so are at least 75% of the teams in the CL. get a grip. Brendan is improving our team all the time and from a seriously disadvantaged financial position. live with it.

23 Nov 2017 09:44:59
Imagine how the Arsenal fans felt last year with Bayern beating them 5-0 home and away, All that Sky TV money too.

23 Nov 2017 11:14:57
Aye derryilra wait and al just live with it because u say so ae! Think I’ll trust my own thoughts but cheers anyway! So we just live with getting humped by 7 goals then eh, and 5 at home? There’s no scope for maybe setting up the team to be hard to beat then? Because we’ve tried it the other way and we get annihilated every time! 6 games against Barcelona Bayern and PSG in the last year 26 goals conceded 2 scored! But hey let’s just live with it eh! Utter nonsense! Yes we all know these teams are miles ahead in terms of finance and players they can buy, there’s not a person on here who can deny that! But that doesn’t mean we need to set up for a pummelling every time we play! Brendan says again last nite we’ll learn from this, well we clearly aren’t learning! And I’d rather see my club not make the CL than watch that every time we’re in it!

23 Nov 2017 12:20:29
Lh86, I saw we adobt a new approach next season. 2 goalkeepers 😁.

23 Nov 2017 13:36:16
If it’s de vries and Gordon it won’t make much difference Stan 😜😜😂😂.

23 Nov 2017 14:29:56
Haha aye probably not.