Celtic Banter Archive November 23 2013

23 Nov 2013 19:49:32
hi guys seeing as the other lot won't accept their club no longer exists heres some wee clues for them. 1 if it was the holding company that went into admin and liquidation why were the club deducted 10 points? 2 why were the players allowed to leave the football club for free? 3 if it was the holding company that went bust why was the club license removed? 4 if it was the holding company that went bust why didn't somebody by the debt free football club? 5 if it was indeed the holding company that went bust why was paye owned for the players wages the reason for the liquidation? theirs an old saying you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but if you live down govan way you can fool all of the people all of the time

Sevconians are not being fooled on that one, they know the truth but prefer to lie. The truth points to itself.
It's the only lie they like from the SPIVS.

Cracking post. I'm guessing their answer will be something like "we are the people".

About time someone in power in the SFA, UEFA or FIFA sorted this joke out.

Beginning to worry about the apparent madness and denial setting in at The Rangers support. Was sent a snap shot of one of their forums and they do truly believe that they have been the victims. To the point where it's suggest that somehow we orchestrated their downfall (ala Agent Whyte). Screaming for UEFA to investigate Lawell for Bremner remark etc. So if you have the debate with any of them about holding company/club here's one simple truth. Rangers and The Rangers existed together at the same time, The Rangers had an associate membership to the SFA, not the same licence as the old club, a brand new one (with no voting rights) for a brand new club. Rangers as they were lost their licence.
I fear for our stadium and fans when the bunch of clearly deluded and now frenzied support roll up. There will be carnage! That's if they last to actually meet us in a cup, from what I hear it's not likely. Scott

For weeks, the zombies knew and accepted they were dead. There was no carnage they all cried then accepted it.

The cruel and unusual thing was green and McSpiv bringing them back as zombies with lies.

Newspapers and TV called them New Rangers or The Rangers.
The worst they do is passively march on an empty stadium. There's no need to fear a backlash. That's the scam by the media, a bluff fear of violence if they mention the truth. In which case this country is out of control of the police and Government.

What I'm enjoying at the moment is their insistence of referring to an 'admin 2'. Yet another example of their belief that if you say something often enough it will eventually become a fact.

AH 75

23 Nov 2013 17:01:19
Well only yesterday I was arguing against the guys wanting youth in the team. I explained we were scratching 2-1 wins in extra time. And shouldn't risk three points. I know we just went 3-1 but still think I'm right.
Incidentally radio Snyde and Guidi at park totally critical of Celtic and downbeat. Feeling sorry for Aberdeen, they deserved to win etc. Downbeat on our AC Milan chances. Still don't respect the 3-1 win. Of course sevco are just wonderful and can do no wrong. Pathetic sports reporting, biased, partisan, unprofessional.

Fisher started today and had a decent game whos to say heron, henderson, or others couldn't do the same, if they don't get a start we will never know . my point yesterday was about having a youth system and not using it, 3 of our subs today were bought in and are 21, 22, 22 and will mostly grace the bench could we not have had 3 acadamy bhoys in their place, if the coahing staff don't think the acadamy bhoys are are good enough(like you seem to think?) then they need to address the coaching techniques or scrap it and keep going down the route of buying foreign boys who have been giving the chance to break into first teams .,,,, deep river bhoy

Well which academy lad is better than boerrichter? He made a game changing substitution and goal. It's difficult.
We can't abandon youth development but it really is looking like finding a CL level lad every 15 years or so. We pick up the best Scottish lads, mulgrew and broony, etc from elsewhere.
Putting on a youth lad at 1-1 would be suicide. {Ed007's Note - But players like Brown and Mulgrew get better because they are playing games at other clubs. Mulgrew left us to go to Wolves then joined Aberdeen,, the xperiene of playing in games brought out the best in him.
It is down to bad coaching, coaches spent too much time coaching youngsters as athletes rather than footballers plus the management aare not willing to take the risk of dropping one of their favourites. Mulgrew would probably need to be decapitated for NL to even considering dropping him, no matter what his current form was like. I've seen plenty of games where you just know Mulgrew isn't fully fit or is carrying a knock, if that's the case then he shouldn't be playing.

Until dirk got on the park no one could tell what he would do but he had to get on the park to do it, and its the same for an acadamy bhoy until they are on the park we will never know if they are good enough, and as you suggest we keep buying the players from other clubs especially scottish clubs then what's the point of a youth system,,, deep river bhoy

We really should be blooding more home grown youngsters this season. The bhoy Fisher has played a few games recently and I don't think he's let anyone down but he's only got his chance because of injuries. Lenny has to have more faith in them. I'm not saying an academy lad could've changed the game today but maybe with half a dozen games under their belt we'd be saying different. Just feel we should have a bigger core squad so that on a day like today we could give three or four players a rest before milan game.

Seems reasonably straightforward to me. We have 40 senior clubs in Scotand, probably 35 of them existing hand to mouth. let's team up with a Clyde or Dumbarton or someone similar and loan them 6 or 8 of our youngsters. Gives them valuable game time and also the scouts a chance to see them in competitive action. You also have 60k fans with no game to watch every second week. How many would pitch up to watch the youngstrs playing? don't think having a B team in the lower leagues is the answer, but we could certainly have a relationship with a lower league club to give the next prospects some proper game time. Might have done Tony Watt some good too! Neilbhoy.

@5 why no b team?

What happens when the teams get promotion to top league it's a possibility in time

@6 no B team because you are adding another club when, as I said, 35 of them are living hand to mouth anyway. I understand the point about promotion, but think we have to investigate some other way of getting young, scottish footballers some game time. don't think there is a right or wrong answer here, but from a cost point of view it makes sense. Cheap for us (no B team costs) and should generate a bit of additional income in the lower leagues. Plenty opportunity for all of the senior clubs to do the same. Dundee with Arbroath/Montrose for example, aberdeen with peterhead, Partick Thistle with The Rangers etc etc. Makes sense to me!

A think its definitely an idea but a think there would be to many stumbling blocks. Conspiracies the main 1, what if we played our own feeder club in a cup, would a rivals feeder club bd told to kick us off park so our players got injuries

Valid points Monkeybhoy, I can see perhaps the issue with the first one, although not the second one. I think we might have the odd bad egg, but not whole teams full of them. I just think for the good of Scottish football we need to start being a little ambitious with our thinking. All clubs would benefit, as would the national team. We need to bring the youngsters on with proper game time, not training matches, whilst acknowledging the lack of cash in the game. Aside from our own team, we are in danger of a whole generation missing out on seeing their team at Euro champs or world cup.

23 Nov 2013 10:03:26
I have been to Paradise many times over the years. I think it must be 50 to 60 in all. But l have never done the stadium tour. That will change at the Hibs game on 14th December as l booked it last week. I know you can't see the changing rooms on match day and l am looking forward to the pitchside bit to see the magnificence of Celtic Park. For those of you who have done the tour, is it a special experience?

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Took my two sons 9 and 6 it was a Friday and we got into the dressing rooms boardroom and out the famous celtic park tunnel and as a wee bonus my oldest bhoy who has cerebral palsy was asked who his favourite player was " Sammy" was his answer and five minutes later the big man walked in with a signed football for him . a truly memorable day. however the next day we got beaten by killie at parkhead, hope you have a good time.

Chalky bhoy!

Make sure you have a camera as when comming out of tunnel and in press room plus other shots like in rod Stewart's seat and trophey room for a Celtic fan it is like stepping in to the holy grail I've done it twice and have two young boys so will have to do it again, thank god, it will be a hour of your life that will be stuck in your head for the rest of your life hope you have a good one., ps. Ask for some signature sheets off of your tour guide, the english tim