Celtic Banter Archive December 23 2015

23 Dec 2015 20:01:52
Merry Christmas to you and your family Ed when it comes have you heard anything what happened at that board meeting other day we had?

{Ed007's Note - And the same to you and yours mate. As far as I know Pedro ate a Wagon Wheel and a Penguin. Ian Bankier picked up a teacake and Ian Livingston cracked the obvious joke about it being one of Leigh Griffiths. Pedro intervened and told Livingston to button his lip and called him a hideous Tory warmongering twat.
At the end of the meeting it was agreed that Livingston should sing 'We're having a party when Thatcher dies' and the Michael Fagan song so everyone could record them and use them as ringtones.
It was also decided that in the new year the board should experiment with different coffees being served at each meeting and more non-chocolate based biscuits at the request of Brian Wilson who was backed by Lawwell over the biscuit conundrum, Peter's a big fan of Garibaldis.}

23 Dec 2015 20:59:01
I wonder how much our club is wish lawwell couid put it up for sale find a buyer and go I agree with what ye all said if anything happens it will be the summer all I can see TBH just way were getting treated the problem board not putting fans 1st they just care about money treating us fans as money touts just love see a empty celtic park for next home game boycott it and put pressure on the board outside stadium singing sack the board.

24 Dec 2015 07:35:47
Big tone Lawell can't put the club up for sale. He does not own it, it's. a PLC. So no one is riding to the rescue of Celtic finance wise and that's why we will continue to sell players.

24 Dec 2015 19:18:38
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised at what we find posted nowadays .
We do have many people posting an aweful lot of stuff they know nothing about .

23 Dec 2015 16:49:23
Merry Christmas ed and to 1 and all.
Wud also like to give out a few presents as its the festive season.
I not rich so forgive me if I missed a few.
ED, A pair of goalie gloves as he cudnt do worse than Gordon, and a new 1 year rolling contract for excellent work.
Jamie, Sensible guy, loads of common sense, unabusive, but what the heck are you doing on here lol. So your getting a new life.
JimTim, Your our stats man, so a calculator for you so you can make Ronnys stats look good.
Gerry C, Consistent level headed knows his stuff and intelligent, was going to get you Encyclopedia brittanica but we had enough of that intelligent stuff. The Broons book for you.
Delphic, Mr Consistent always backs Ronny - eh well until now that is, so Highway code for you so you can stay on the right road.
Oldbhoy/Chris02, 1 year subscription to all Newspapers, Membership to SFA and a referees course. We all know how much he will enjoy that.
DN30, my friend and yours is getting a clock, it will give him something else to wind up instead of us. And a Neil Lennon calender of course.
Celticforever, A Ronny Deila watch as we know how much he loves him.
Paradisewon, A new typewriter as the old one has got to be broke by now the amount of abuse it takes.
Weepat, a new joke book in English preferably and a cake with a saw in it to escape Bar L.

{Ed007's Note - And a Merry Christmas to you and your family, Rayman.}

23 Dec 2015 17:10:12
Cheers Ed the glove are in the post.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

23 Dec 2015 17:28:03
Cheers Rayman lol merry christmas mate.

23 Dec 2015 17:38:27
Why did'nt you get Celticforever a Scotty Brown doll, then he can pass many a happy hour sticking pins in it, might stop him come on and being totaly over the top in his critiscm of him.

23 Dec 2015 18:18:05
Thank you Ray! As I say - I love Ronny but the team really are driving me bananas now! All the best to everyone on here even DN - if you have no passion you're as well chucking it!

23 Dec 2015 19:06:14
Happy Christmas rayman, the tenner's in the post.

23 Dec 2015 19:16:08
Pmsl laughing Raymando sitting @ airport and just read this

Hope Santa bringing that jumbo slipper for you and DN30 to sit and watch the fitba' together :-)

Hope you and all have a cracker (y)

23 Dec 2015 09:46:12
Happy Christmas everyone, have enjoyed the exchanges. Good open forum well edited in general :-) .

23 Dec 2015 10:58:07
Happy Chrismas TTTS and everybody else. Not sure why there's dislikes.

23 Dec 2015 16:52:03
Happy Christmas you Edd and your family and to all on here have a great time I wish you all e best of times even you CEE have a good one.

{Ed007's Note - Merry Christmas, Tony.}

23 Dec 2015 01:02:12
Seen a few suggestions for next manager if Delia leaves and it is actually quite funny how deluded some suggestions are:

Moyes- No chance would he take drastic drop in salary

Keane- No chance after previous negotiations.

Clarke- No chance and also what has he actually achieved in role as a manager?

Various other european names- Forget it.

Reality of the matter is if Delia leaves before end of season, John Collins will no doubt take over as intern with Kennedy as number 2. A situation that will end up permanent.

23 Dec 2015 07:24:00
Going by your attitude I don't even know if I'll get out of bed! I was also going to dive over for the paper and some milk, I'm not going to bother though in case the paper isn't in yet, and the milk is out of date! I wouldn't go for any of those 3 you mentioned anyway but Keane and Clarke would have taken it the last time. Keane specifically said he was interested but when they started putting stipulations in the contract (picking his assistant - Ronny) it made him think they didn't fully trust him. Keane said those words! There might have been other reasons, but he was interested if the terms were right. I think Stevie Clarke, who is a fantastic coach, would also have been interested - he was even on the radio saying he was open to working anywhere but had never ever been approached about moving home/moving to Celtic. He also said it was the biggest regret of his career not getting to play for us! As for Moyes, I don't know his thinking, because unlike you I'm not psychic. You don't have a clue about what foreign managers would be interested! So it's you that's deluded! It's great that you stick up for Ronny but when anyone else has a different opinion you are like an hysterical 10 year old girl! Lawwell will love you because you have no ambition, but you don't represent me as a Celtic fan because you come across as backward, and totally intransigent. It would be fine if what you said was sensible, but apart from liking Ronny, which is obviously totally cool, you just rave away and sound really uneducated when it comes to Celtic, or football in general. That was for you DN, just in case that didn't register!

23 Dec 2015 08:16:29
I forgot to add when I was talking about Keane that he also specifically said that Celtic were a great club and regardless of what happened the last time he would love to manage the club if the circumstances were right, but wished Ronny well, and said he wouldn't discuss it while we had a manager. He also said our senior players were letting Deila down! As for Foreign managers plenty would take it unless of course it was Lawwell, Park and yourself doing the recruitment/interview process - you lot would have him thinking we were a part time team from Greenland! Oh and I think Ranieri would have taken it if he hadn't got the Leicester job - after he got sacked from Greece he was begging for a club in the UK, even a couple of Championship clubs knocked him back! Everyone in England was amazed when he got that job, and it was mainly down to their Far East wanting a quick appointment, wanting experience, and not listening to the people saying not to go near him! He's done alright though! I actually said weeks ago I wanted Prandelli for some of the same reasons! Very shrewd, similar age and experience to Ranieri, more highly rated in Italy, and only available because he was sacked in Turkey because they were impossible to deal with!

23 Dec 2015 08:42:52
Delphic ROFL. couldn't be bothered reading half pi$h you have just spouted there but in respect of the uneducated part, its obvious for anyone to see what will happen again. Same thing happened when Lennon was appointed and same thing will almost certainly happen again as it falls into current remit of cutting corners and saving money. In your eyes nobody is "educated" unless they fall into the "celtic minded" way of thinking which is "backwards".

Stats don't lie and Deila is on course to achieving more in 2 seasons than Lennon did in 4 seasons on a vastly smaller budget!

I have no ambition? Got a lot more than fans like yourself. At least I can see the bigger picture and know changing a manager is going to achieve nothing, unless there is a total clear out off the pitch and certain policies changed.

You are clearly lost in a wee fantasyland if you think names like Moyes etc would even entertain thought of talking to club. You represent a major problem at moment where fans think the sun shines out PL ar$e and fail to see he is running club into ground.

23 Dec 2015 09:32:21
I've just picked myself off my chair there at my desk! I didn't say anything about Celtic minded - in fact I spent the day yesterday saying how much I hate that whole idea! I also said yesterday that I couldn't care less about Lennon, never rated him and thought we could find someone better than him and Ronny! I have spent my whole life saying I don't like Lawwell in any way, and even said it in the post you couldn't read! So you really are deluded or a bare faced liar! I don't want Moyes, my point was I certainly won't listen to what you tell me about him because you by far talk the most nonsense on here. All I've heard you say is bigger pictures and longer plans! Is that your own life your talking about - back up what you say, elaborate!

23 Dec 2015 09:37:27
I've heard Brendan Rodgers' name bandied about as well.

23 Dec 2015 10:03:30
Delphic, is there anything you like or have ever liked about Celtic?

23 Dec 2015 10:08:06
We've as much chance of getting morinho, or the magic hat 😂, than getting moyes or Rodgers.
And see this Celtic minded pish that gets banded about, I'd be happy for a Celtic minded manager as long as he's up for the job.
The sad reality whether it's the boards fault, spl, tv revenue or whatever, were further behind the top leagues as we've
Ever been, and why should we expect CL football without the large investment, and before the molde etc budget argument, they play in a far stronger league than we do.

23 Dec 2015 10:36:00
I like loads of things about Celtic. CMcBhoy - hopefully I've got your name right! What do you mean - give us more than one sentence. I've been going to the games for 30 years, all I'm looking for is for the fans to be appreciated and respected! If I think there is scope for improvement I'll never rest. I'll never settle for being ok! Do you not think we should be doing better in Europe. We have far far more money coming in than Legia, Maribor, Molde, Malmo. If it was 1 or 2 games that's cool but it's getting worse! I'm worried about the qualifiers in July! Is it alright to worry? Give us some of your wisdom CMcBhoy!

23 Dec 2015 11:14:49
I was reading through your post and you hated Lennon, you hate Ronny and you hate Lawell. It looks like you don't like much. I don't see it like that. I agree the games against Malmo etc were not good enough but sometimes you've got to go back to move forward. Especially when the prices of players are ridiculous. There has been a lot of changes since RD came in. We don't have the ready made players anymore so we need to make them ourselves. I have a lot of faith that things will come good. Even as I say that I think a lot of fans have had their heads turned with what the media and ex-players say. It's not exactly a reality when the manager won a double last year and is in all competitions this year. The only disappointment has been Europe and small details got us this year (along with a couple of dodgy performances) . If you've been going to the games for 30 years you'll remember the 90's? Finishing 3rd and 4th etc. How did Man U do after spending 200 and odd million? How have man city done the last few years? Money doesn't guarantee anything. If fans and media actually got behind RD and his ideas instead of slating players and staff alike there'd probably be a lot more confidence and consistency in their play.

23 Dec 2015 11:24:32
God help us if Molde play in a stronger league than us - they were part time 20 years ago! It's terrifying if that's how you look at the situation! Teams like Molde shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Celtic! I don't blame Ronny for that, it's the psuedo visionaries we have at the top, led of course by Lawwell that's to blame, but Ronny and Collins etc should be doing better! Either that or don't play the same players! They are an embarrassment, the fans know that, but the manager can't come out after these defeats and say we're improving. All we here is we are building a team around Biton, James Forrest is an unbelievable talent, McGregor has a big future, Cifti is great in training, Cole is a lovely guy, Craig Gordon is the best keeper he's seen, Griffiths has the best left foot in the world, Johansen is Norways best player. He also talks about pressing, energy, tempo, well you don't need money for that, - Leicester are incredible at it! Bottom line is its not happening, I'd prefer to get rid of the players but it's not possible. If Ronny stays he needs to go and buy a big ugly hard man of a centre half come Jan 1, we also need a striker and a few others! If he can't see we need this, doesn't get the money, he's better resigning because if he feels he's not being supported he's better telling us!

23 Dec 2015 12:44:59
Well said Delphic. Cmcbhoy I don't care what Man U have spent and have no need either to compare Lennon to Ronnie or vice versa. Fact is simple. Our play is slow and laboured. We have little flair. We are 1 point ahead of Aberdeen. Average side who have spent nothing on players for years. Posters keep on saying we are on for the treble! At this moment that's all maybes and what if's. Deal in the here and now and this is a poor Celtic side that should be judged on Europe. Our spending power in the SPL is enormous compared to Motherwell, ST Johnston, Kilmarnock in fact everyone. We have no excuse for not romping this league. So look at teams that have similar spending power and then it's a level playing field. So Molde, Malmo, etc are just better tactically and a better appetite to win. I know we are trying but we don't look as if we are giving it 100% for 90 minutes. So I agree with Delphic. Ronnie has the budget to qualify for CL or to at least put up a fight in Europa so why does it not hapoen?

23 Dec 2015 13:35:25
Johnnymac, if you've got no need to compare then you're just spouting sh*te. If you compare to past managers RD HAS delivered at a level the same domestically just not in Europe, that will come. Yes Malmo did have more appetite for it this year, there's no doubt about that. the simple fact is any talk of getting rid of a manager when he's top of the league and still on for the treble is utter madness. Maybe if you look at the lack of experience and the amount of pressure guys like you put on the team that's why they're out, ever thought about that? No team should be judged on Europe, that's just plain balls. You say out play is slow and laboured? Not all the time. You want to go back and look at the previous managers and see slow and laboured. Short memories some folk have.

23 Dec 2015 14:36:11
You're another one CMcBhoy that just makes up lies and finds things to back up your argument! It's actually because of fans like you that Lawwell can justify doing everything on the cheap! What's the 90's got to do with it, the clubs in a better situation now, we can afford better players than your Martin Hayes' and Lex Baillies, the problem is the money's not getting used wisely! The squad is far too big and full of rubbish! Not once have I said I hate Ronny, so get your facts right also! If you're obsessed with comparing Mangers why are you talking about Lennon and Stein, - what sort of barometer is Lennon? The football was brutal under him, we got the change we wanted! Ronny came in, struggled initially then done pretty well, when the season was finished I was relatively pleased. This season has been hell on earth. God your talking about small details now - have you got a Ronny mask you wear one day, and a Lawwell one the next? I tell you what wasn't small details - nearly conceding 6 goals in Molde, - we could have lost that tie on aggregate 10-2. Saturday wasn't small details, we could have lost 5 then. We are not learning! The team is doing the same thing over and over. Look it's quite simple - the fans aren't enjoying it, and are freaking out all around me! You like small details - here's one for you, - the team has not improved by 0.1% since last year! Is that a small enough detail CMcBhoy?

{Ed007's Note - At the 18 matches played point last season we had

P.18 W.12 D.3 L.3; GF. 34 GA. 12 GD.+22 Pts.39

This season:

P.18 W.13 D.3 L.2; GF. 45 GA. 14 GD.+31 Pts.42.

That works out at more than a 0.1% improvement.}

23 Dec 2015 15:33:56
C'mon Ed, - I'm not one of these fans that's only looking at Europe, or only looking at something else! I'm looking at everything - domestic, Europe, youth, everything, and you know I've spent a year and a half giving him praise! This year we haven't seen improvement at all because we got through the Europa Group last year and played pretty well against Inter! After that game I bet you were looking forward to the qualifiers but apart from the first 30 mins against Malmo at home it's been a nightmare! Mistakes are great because that's when you find out people's characters, and as long as people learn then there can be absolutely no recourse, but the mistakes we were making in Europe last year we're making this year, and the same mistakes we were making a month ago we made on Sat! We are getting caught out on the counter attack up to 5 times in a game, also high punts up the pitch are missing the whole team and leaving people through on goal. The team gets bullied, they don't talk to each other, let alone shout! It is brutal! Anyway I hope you have an amazing Christmas, - if I ever go over the top I apologise, I at least always try and be fair, and civilised!

{Ed007's Note - Those figures prove that the team has improved on last years.}

23 Dec 2015 15:22:50
Delphic, The squad is there to give competition which makes players better. If you want to start having digs about masks etc that's your prerogative, just because I like the guy and think things will come good. And people like you are why we will never move forward as whatever manager comes in you will never be happy.

24 Dec 2015 19:44:29
The Celtic Board are allowed to continue from year to year without any serious pressure from the fans yet these are the people responsible for our overall budgets as well as appointing the manager . The board, or at least some members of the board are responsible for players bought .
Yet the supporters seem to spend most of the year bullying the manager and wanting rid . I cannot understand why if we look at the sequence of managers this century, MO'N, WGS Big Tony Lennon and RD, apart from big Tony there has been a steady decline I'm managers abilities and I can't see the point of changing and based on what we are doing getting worse.