Celtic Banter Archive August 23 2018

23 Aug 2018 22:03:23
As brutal as that was tonight, i think we are slightly over-reacting (myself inc) , we didn't lose and will make the groups.

23 Aug 2018 22:52:41
Although I agree with you Brendan, we should progress but that was a shocking display from a team we know can do so much better. I can only hope our board are taking notice that we are sadly lacking in some key areas.
On a positive note, wee Mikey Johnstone is looking like a future star!

23 Aug 2018 23:58:08
To be honest Brendan it's hard not to react especially how things have gone so far this season both on and particularly off the pitch. Yes we should make the group stages but to be fair suduva are shocking. And there are some serious sides in the Europa league. With the first old firm around the corner, performing like that as a team is a major concern. Delighted to see Mikey Johnstone display and a guy who plays for the shirt. Maybe a few should take note.

24 Aug 2018 00:55:42
I only run a Sunday team, but I get the lads together and ask them who's f##KING commited and who isn't because as a Sunday league team you are easily replaced, surely Rodgers has asked his squad the same question if there up for the challenge it seems a few think there above the level we are, get rid get replaced with players who actually are up for a fight will be dominant and will actually put 100% in that's what we all want to see! Effort and pride is that to much to ask from well paid professional footballers. I and a millions other people would give anything for the chance to play football for that kind of money and give your all knowing whatever happens your covered! Rant over!

23 Aug 2018 22:56:50
We were rotten against a team that would struggle to survive in our league.

23 Aug 2018 22:58:46
We obviously need to improve and sign players, too many of our fans are getting anxious because of all the hysteria surround the Scottish team with Scottish fans. Form is temporary remember, Celtic will win handsomly on Thursday, Rangers will go out and the whole thing will turn on its head by Sunday night. Our group certainly know how to win Derby games. The Scottish team have too many debutants for one of these games, and when they freeze, the other players that have played in one will buckle too, because the fear is there embedded in them already.

23 Aug 2018 20:37:15
I know the negativity is rife right now and there are reasons for this slump in form, confidence and belief and we all support the team/ manager through thick and thin.
However, as Ed would say:- 'I sense a great disturbance in the force', on and off the pitch.

We start the game really well, early goal, in total control (well for 13 mins) - they win a free kick. Alarm bells at the back - static ball watching back line, unmarked man and Gordon flaps.
Sound familiar, well it should because it's like a glitch in the Matrix happening on a time loop.
Every team that even has only one shot seems to score and even more alarming is, opponents surrender all the possession and territory and we cannot create or score because we have little invention, craft, or composure to do so.
Even the pace and power was missing tonight and the only player with a trick was young Johnston, who did well.

The boss seems to have lost his enthusiasm, motivation and swagger and the team have caught the bug.
There seems to be a huge drop in confidence around the place right now, especially on the pitch, when we lose a goal - and we concede every week these days.
Broony looks unfit and playing through injury, but cannot be rested for obvious reasons and the 'treatment' he gets every week may do him more serious damage?
The worrying thing for me is that it's not just one or two players that are struggling for form and confidence it's half a team and that's where BR would usually shuffle the pack, but he is clearly short of an ace or two.

23 Aug 2018 20:50:51
OaB, absolutely top class analysis of where our club is right now. Well done sir and if the cnuts responsible for everything that's happening are reading this I sincerely hope they will step up to the plate and fix it. HH.

23 Aug 2018 20:53:43
Word for word a perfect post to where we are at the minute. Anyone who says that mob across the city are not challengers are partaking in wishful thinking. They can smell blood. As can the rest of the league.

23 Aug 2018 20:59:43
Something's seriously up . Looks like we've downed tools before season starts. How can a team go from having such a strong winning mentality to looking so weak and feeble in a few months.

23 Aug 2018 21:26:20
BoyataMcGinngate.

23 Aug 2018 21:38:00
Our club is not backing our manager. Simple as that and the frustration is clear from BR's post match interview this evening. He has a battle on his hands and the board's lack of support is symptomatic of everything that is happening. Shame on them. HH.

23 Aug 2018 21:44:01
I think a lot of this started last season. Although we were dominant in domestic football I think some of the heavy defeats we had in Europe has scarred a lot of the players.
That is why I think the decision makers at the club took their eye off the ball in not making good enough plans to rectify it.
The manager has got to earn his money now and help the squad get some of their belief back. We won 2 trebles back to back for a reason, that is that they are better footballers than any other team has at their disposal.
Despite all the bravado coming out of Sevco we still have a far better squad than them. It's up to the manager now to put the disappointments of who we might have signed behind him and remind a lot of our team that domestically anyway we are way ahead of the opposition.

23 Aug 2018 21:49:20
I listened to the commentary in the Celtic game they were praying for them to score or us to do anything sloppy to jump all over it. If you keep telling a winner they are a loser over and over again eventually they become a loser? We have had our strikers since the start of the season in out stop start that doesn’t help our defence has had a dozen permutations which doesn’t help? The person sympathisers are just all over any crumb of negativity we give them, but after tonight’s results which one would you rather have? A 1-0 first leg home win or an away leg score draw. I know what my choice would be 🙂⚽️🍀🏆🏆🏆 hail hail and roll in the second for a h. u. n skelping 🙂.

23 Aug 2018 22:13:28
Craig Gordon is a great shot stopper but he does not command his box. He has the full game in front of him, but the only time you hear him talking to the players in front of him, is when he is positioning the wall at free kicks. Watch the goal from tonight and see if he actually looks across the box in front of him once. James Forrest needs someone else pushing him for his position or he let's his performance levels drop. I hope Lewis Morgan comes back soon and it may drive Forrest on. We have lost 2 game changers in Armstrong and Roberts, we were already needing central defensive re-enforcements before this season started and I’ve backed the board for sometime but enough is enough. I for one will not be happy unless there is 3 first time players signed before this window closes, nothing less and it is going to be one long season and any one who thinks differently is living in a bubble! Pedro the time is now, one week to sort it out!

23 Aug 2018 22:14:21
bigp partly agree with you, I know what you mean about telling winners they are losers but our defence is destroying the whole team. It must be fixed. HH.

23 Aug 2018 22:27:03
what injury is brown playing through old boy chris? that's seems to be always the reason when brown pkays poor. he's playing through injury if that's the case an not 100% then he shouldn't be playing. donu not think that his age is starting to creep up and he osnt the same oamter as of last season? his constant misplace passes and passes to the back is making him more noticeable that he may need a rest.

23 Aug 2018 22:27:08
The one position that could be improved without signing anyone is get Bain in for Gordon. Gordon's decision making with the ball at his feet is abysmal 9 times out of 10 he puts our shaky defence under pressure.

23 Aug 2018 23:31:42
Where do you start? We are in trouble. If anyone thinks Rangers are no threat, then you had best go and lie down in a dark room till the end of the season. Same for Hearts and Hibs. Many posters have been saying this for months only to be shouted down as being anti Celtic. I since BR started on about lack of support from the Board its hone right down hill. I think BR is totally hacked off and its going through the club. We come up against a poor team tonight and we are almost as poor as them. BR has lost his drive and its reflecting on the players. 8 in a row is in serious danger unless BR gets his drive back and starts pushing the players he has got to produce better. Even Moussa looks as if he is packing it in. We will beat them at Celtic park but not too sure how many more scalps we will take in EL this season.

23 Aug 2018 23:00:17
Agree. 1-1 away better than 1-0 home. Why do the media keep calling it Gerard’s Rangers?

24 Aug 2018 15:18:17
I don’t agree with the analogy that if you keep telling a winner he’s a loser, he becomes a loser. Only a loser to start with would listen to people trying to put him down. A winner would use that as motivation to ram those words down the barstewards throats.

Let’s see what we have filling our jersey.

23 Aug 2018 20:23:50
Instead of strengthening we might well spend the next week staving off interest in Tierney Dembele and Ntcham although on tonight's display you'd get 3 furra £1. Not hit the panic button yet but if there's no activity in then that says it all for me. No doubt we will go through but displays like this only feeds the smsm. Keep the faith bhoys 🍀.

23 Aug 2018 20:38:11
For me, it’s time to clear out the defence. If we can get good money for KT, take it and spend the lot buying in a pair of string Center backs. It’s for the greater good Bhoys and for me needs to be done.

23 Aug 2018 21:04:57
I keep hearing take the money and spend it. On WHO? Not many quality Players want to come to Scotland especially now we are out of the CL.
W could get 12-15 million but who do we buy when I am sure we have already had polite rejections?

23 Aug 2018 21:21:38
That's the problem TT, but I'm sure we could easily improve that defence without getting real quality in. We truly are dreadful at the back.

23 Aug 2018 21:30:34
Watched Brendan’s interview after the game, you can tell he is truely fed up with things at the moment. He had a dig at Jozo for not coming back on when he thought he would have with a knock to the ankle. Boyata throws his olive branch back in his face. The club can’t conclude deals for players at both Hibs and Aberdeen. Like last year we can’t get going on a run of winning games, the team clearly had no confidence. Celtic Park will be empty next Thursday.

23 Aug 2018 22:29:23
Celtic park will NOT be empty next week.
A few poor results and we are starting to sound like sevco supporters.
Yes, it's hard to take but having been through really bad times, this is a concerning time, not a slit your wrists in the bath time. (don't forget, this same disater of a team won back to back trebles and a record unbeaten domestic run)
BR is pissed off because he knows the players are more than capable of p-laying better. He also knows our defensive weaknesses but his hands are tied by geography which directly relates to finance.
Right now, the only positive I feel is that we achieved a score draw in the away first leg of a European tie.

24 Aug 2018 00:13:49
Come on TinyTim. We drew against a shocking side. It's not like we managed a draw against a Europe elite.

23 Aug 2018 19:36:02
Moussa more like wee moose tonight. Poor from him so far against a proper poor side.

23 Aug 2018 19:57:43
I lost count how many times Ntcham gave the ball away too and he really can't cross a ball to save his life.

23 Aug 2018 18:55:29
How does the saying go, something like "if you can praise him you can criticize him"?


Well Brendan has known since this time last year that our defense is guff, and his response was Commper and Hendry. I know a lot of the fanatics on here will blame the board, and no doubt they have to accept a massive portion of the blame, however Brendan has more power than any manager we have had for years. He should have identified several defenders to fix this.

He gets praise for improving players, yet we cannot defend crosses/ set pieces, these are the basics.

I'll be honest, i think unless we get at least one, preferably two center backs we will struggle this year.

23 Aug 2018 20:05:59
I would just love to see BR wish list for the start of June see if any defenders are on it.

23 Aug 2018 21:04:10
Well said green oak can you imagine if it was Ronny deila managing some of our recent displays the sound of teeth gnashing would be deafening.

24 Aug 2018 00:26:50
The problem with CB is that BR has 5 of them in the squad. Yes hard to believe but there is Ajer who's decent (yes a midfielder) , Jozo who has lost all form, Hendry struggling in the Celtic strip, Compper? and Boyata the rat!

Think BR would need a few out asap to allow new CB or two in. Hopefully the rat asap and just get rid of compper. Christ if l missed work as much as he does l would be let go.

And remember they got rid of Eric who l did like and got Compper and Hendry in.

23 Aug 2018 18:02:16
Excellent by johnstone.

23 Aug 2018 18:22:33
What an absolute utter defensive shambles yet again. The worst defence in 20 years, totally inept at defending a high ball. After that great start our open wound seeks yet again.

23 Aug 2018 18:33:22
What a surprise we concede a goal. One ball into our box and they score. Shocking!

23 Aug 2018 21:35:31
Efe Ambrose would be an improvement on our defence, can't believe how we leak a goal every time a team had a shot on goal. We are not playing well and the off field antics are affecting everyone from players managers and fans alike sending it back. Whilst I agree changes are needed we need to still stick by the manager and team or it will only get worse. I like many remember the really bad times. Hail Hail.

23 Aug 2018 22:04:32
Kwaj l think most if not all are behind the manager. But it's hard so early in the season to see a team so poor and no sign of improving. And like has been said the worst defence in 20 yrs and little or no sign of improvement or the manager getting any help from the board while other have become much stronger.

23 Aug 2018 17:48:58
Yeah postman. Stuck on Milan v utd. Anticipating it'll be sorted come KO.

23 Aug 2018 17:53:10
Think it’s moved to premier sports 2. This problem is only for virgin customers.

23 Aug 2018 17:19:29
My premier sport has crashed, has anyone the same problem.

23 Aug 2018 17:39:50
Postman it’s now on prem 2 at 5.55pm
Mon the bhoys.

23 Aug 2018 17:12:39
Hope you have an excellent time pat, always special visiting paradise. All the best.

23 Aug 2018 16:21:32
Looks like l have upset some people for this l apologise, 1st let me get the European Final date right l was talking about was 2002/03 season, 2nd your are right about Strachan and some of the great players he bought and some great European nights and l did like him and Neil Lennon, l was just blown away by the way we played over the last 2 seasons to go from that to the way we r playing just now l know we will get better but for the last 2seasons we have dominated them across the road and l don’t want that to change now.

23 Aug 2018 17:41:05
Big Bruce we have not played well through the second half of last season. Players look a bit boared.
Thats why we needed to freshen it up. On the other hand I can understand why PL is reluctant to sign more players. Our wages alone are more than the rest of the SPL teams turnover put together if you exclude Rangers. However why has no one told BR that we are not signing any players? Surly someone has given him a figure of what he has in the transfer window? He must get an indication of his available spend? It just seems like this whole episode has been handled really poorly. BR is talking about signing quality and PL is talking about signib no one. We knock back £9mill for Boyata and can't sign McGinn for £3mill? I think for whatever reason we as a club have just not communicated from the top down. I can't see anyone coming in now so we just need to accept it and move on. So for BR, if we don't win the league this seadon, facing a need to dramatically reduce costs, i think he will go. If we are still on for 10 in a row he may stay but this is in my opinion make or break for him this season.

23 Aug 2018 16:11:22
Any news or update on Chirivella or Bruma?

23 Aug 2018 17:12:41
Still only rumours.

23 Aug 2018 14:26:11
For the punters on here betting on York, here are the horses to AVOID.
Sharja Bridge 3.00 10/ 1
Summer Icon 4.50 12/ 1.

23 Aug 2018 16:50:40
Reverse psychology Tim! I like it or do i.

23 Aug 2018 13:29:06
agree kev, but i feel we need to put our CL demise behind us, and the transfer window, and look forward to the season.

23 Aug 2018 13:17:07
This page needs some nice 8 in a row positivity! you'd think our club had died!

23 Aug 2018 12:57:02
Should be a big advantage for us against the orcs on the 2nd. We both play in the Wuffy cup on the Thursday but we are at home and they will have an Easyjet flight back from Russia :)

23 Aug 2018 13:19:29
Bit of luck it isn't an EasyJet flight and one of them Xiamen Airlines planes.

23 Aug 2018 12:34:53
I know we are all disappointed about dropping out of CL, but just been researching online possible revenue in Europa League, while not as lucrative as CL, UEFA have added bonuses based on a club's coefficient, more on this in a moment.
So taking Celtic, should we reach group stages of EL club get £2.92m, then share of global tv revenue (more money if we are in group with English, German teams etc)
Another thing with the tv money, if Celtic alone qualify we get ALL SCOTLAND'S TV ALLOCATION, but if sevco qualify we share this.
In El a win earns roughly £750k and a draw £300k.
next to the coefficent payment based on a 10 year ranking, the higher a team's ranking the more cash UEFA pay, Celtic can expect around £2m while sevco being much lower will receive £190k
Now add in gate money and sponsorshipand Celtic will earn £10-£14m just in group stages.

23 Aug 2018 12:59:55
We also had 6 Champions league games money.

23 Aug 2018 13:18:26
@Pud only 3 home gates though, and some bits of tv money but not much.

23 Aug 2018 15:18:47
Timalloy that's a lot more than last year. Not bad money if we make it out of the group stages.

23 Aug 2018 11:33:34
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Legends of the Game Part 5: Jack Charlton, Irish Saviour?

23 Aug 2018 09:58:07
A wee bit disillusioned with the transfer window and general malaise currently circling our club at the moment. Surely there must be decent centre halfs out there in the ilk of Mjalby, Big Joos, Reiper, Elliot etc who were hardly household names before joining us. We need a bit of steel at the back and a bit of back up for Broony to stans up for the team. I am at the age where I've seen the script before, with Celtic boards through the years failing to strengthen from a position of strength. I'm hoping we can still do that and keep our manager intereste. Unfortunately the disco lights have become a bit of a white elephant and were obviously sanctioned with us qualifying for the CL. I worry our scouting system are perhaps not doing their jobs effectivey. You can't tell me there aren't solid reliable defenders currently playing in Scandinavian countries or Eastern european leagues. Anyway, few more day's to get someone in, here's hoping. Hail hail.

23 Aug 2018 10:20:00
Get John Park back!

23 Aug 2018 04:32:45
Every year Brendan states that we need to bring in "quality not quantity". Quality is available if you actually look and that's the part that makes me laugh. Someone's not doing there job, the board have messed up and are doing nothing to fix it. 2 years of the same old nonsense. It's getting stale. The board must know the fans are annoyed. But continue to sit there penny pinching as much cash as they can. Pathetic.