Celtic Banter Archive April 23 2016

 

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23 Apr 2016 22:31:07
Give Scott Allan and the new bhoys a run in the team and then let's judge them.

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23 Apr 2016 22:55:18
See the post below mate more than welcome to join in.

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24 Apr 2016 09:38:33
Da1888 is that you desperately seeking back up cause u know Scott Allan is dung? Lol.

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24 Apr 2016 10:26:09
Ahh your on the ball DN30 has it took you 11 hours to think that reply up lol any way off to the game here's hoping for a couple of fresh faces n some decent fitba hail hail.

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24 Apr 2016 10:49:11
Dn30.you where one of the big pro ronnie camp give him time . he'll come good . well now regret it etc . I'm not having g a go at you for that . but can you not afford the same leeway to Allen for the last few games of the season . he couldd come good . if he isn't then we part ways . but the fact we bought him and ronnie says he approved all signings? Imo says he should get a chance ?

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24 Apr 2016 12:07:45
DN30,I bet NL would have played Allan.

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24 Apr 2016 13:38:43
Don't agree Lennon would have played him. Commons would have been main man.
What has Allan done his ENTIRE career so prove he is good enough to be at celtic?
He isn't some young player anymore and has done nothing
Hibs having better season without him.

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24 Apr 2016 14:13:39
Was only giving DN a chance to mention Lennon, he hasn't done it in a while.

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24 Apr 2016 15:35:28
Aindoh a bit hypocritical every 2nd post you share is about NL.

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23 Apr 2016 18:50:59
How many of you boys n girls are going tomorrow? its kinda hard to believe we're so close to winning the league! wonder what the team will be I think we should play Armstrong Allen Christie n commons in midfield if it doesn't work out we beat jambos at swine castle then win the league against the sheep thoughts guys ?

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23 Apr 2016 18:59:15
Why Allan?

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23 Apr 2016 19:15:16
For as much a reason as why bitton or brown or johansson on recent form.

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23 Apr 2016 19:19:45
Why not play Allen? Is he not a registered Celtic player?

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23 Apr 2016 19:21:49
I take it u were happy with our midfield last week rolled over by that lot!

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23 Apr 2016 19:42:06
So Da 1888, so we just go blind instead and pick players who u haven't seen play a game of football this year . If only management was so easy .

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23 Apr 2016 19:47:13
Better options that Allan Jim1972.

Da1888 Aye right ye are! Cause Allan would of done a far better job last sunday! He was only signed to get one over that mob. that's probably only reason you want him to play, not for ability but cause he signed for us instead.

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23 Apr 2016 20:00:08
I take it u go n watch this week in week out superstars like johanssen Bitton brown keeping us all off our seats with our imaginative craft n style not . I'll be there tomorrow will u?

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23 Apr 2016 20:30:41
id go Roberts left rogic middle and Johansen right with biton and Armstrong in the holding, what's Ronny got to lose in dropping brown.

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23 Apr 2016 20:39:07
Still don't c what johanssen done this year to merit a start same goes for Bitton brown gms lustig boyata.

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23 Apr 2016 20:56:47
Brown Biton and Johansen have been stagnant for months now, no pace, no imagination no guile, fresh legs needed in there, why Ryan Christie hasn't been given more game time is baffling , he has plenty Spl experience with Caley and was often there standout player last season. What I like about this guy is he has went from playing regular Spl football with Caley to playing with our development team and has performed well and never whinged about it. Seems to have a really good attitude unlike some of the prima donas in our squad

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23 Apr 2016 21:22:18
Da1888 nevermind quering whether i go to games or not, its evident you don't if you think Scott Allan is the modern day midfield maestro either that or you need a wee visit to optical express.

SJ isn't interested, hasn't been since club knocked back Hamburg bid. Only reason he is getting a game, is cause PL is telling him to field him to boost "resale value". Said this weeks ago, heard direct from a player about PL meddling. The other week i think it was ED033 said the exact same thing.

SB is finished, last season. Personally i think Armstrong is a better choice.

Biton i think some on here are too critical of him.

Team I would like to see is:

GK Gordon

LB Tierney
RB Lustig
CB Sviatchenko
CB Mulgrew

CDM Biton
CDM Armstrong

LW GMS
RW Roberts
CAM Rogic

ST Griffiths.

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23 Apr 2016 21:40:18
Not to start an argument dn30
But you won't have allan in the team yet you would plat lustig ( murder all season) gms ( murder all season )
Biton, armstrong (hot n cold all season ) so why not give the boy allan a chance in these last few games?

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23 Apr 2016 21:41:10
I would be happy with that line up.

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23 Apr 2016 21:41:41
Dn30 do you seriously not think Allan wouldn't have done a better job than that midfield last week? Not saying he should start or anything but Scott Browns performance last week was as bad as it gets . Hard to do worse in my opinion.

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23 Apr 2016 21:49:06
I'll give u my seat no, no problem I've no inside info as regards players meddling so ure close to a player who told u well name names or was it a source? Celtic, s midfield was over ran by sevco making Haliday look like a world beater bitton, s too slow Browns needing a rest johannsen been pure shite gms looks like a wee boy who's won a competion to play for his favourite team!

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23 Apr 2016 22:12:49
Well well it just goes to show how divided we really are in term s of players stepping up to the plate I'm glad there's other tims thinking like me all we want is players playing for the jersey entertaining and on the one road!

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23 Apr 2016 22:32:30
The central three we played last week as in brown biton and johansen Wereham no pace speed or accuracy of pass so that's the basics to look from in midfielders so why not go with rogic Christie and Allen all showed previously an urgency and desire than the three so called big guns?

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23 Apr 2016 23:12:15
I see folks sayin bitons slow n harshly criticised truth be bitons a giant wuss at motherwell everytime gomis went near him biton was fallin over himsel to get rid of the ball the guy is gutless sooner we rid of the better.

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23 Apr 2016 23:34:32
Does'nt anyone understand there are the same equivalent knuckledraggers on this side are ther on the dark side, the only thing they have against Allan is thathat he was a Rangers supporter,

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24 Apr 2016 08:03:27
I would go with DN30's team but up the tempo by putting Allan in for Biton. Nir is a very clever player but when he gets the ball it appears everything goes into slow motion. I have been sitting in the Celtic Club section all year and am in great need of a little excitement, no more Ronnie's Snore please.

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24 Apr 2016 09:03:40
Why would anyone play Allen?
Cant see what he brings to the team.
Can't see why he was sighed.
We sent a better and more effective player to hibs on loan.
In my eyes he is quite correctly well down the pecking order
For me He should be behind
Rogic
Commons
Henderson
Christie
Armstrong for a place in CAM

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24 Apr 2016 09:13:12
No like DN30 to be greeting over someone's suggestion again, of course Scott Allan should be getting a game ahead of Johansen at present! I'd also play Armstrong ahead of bitton. The midfield recently have been to slow! Still looking forward to the game today tho.

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24 Apr 2016 09:42:32
Michael everyone is entitled to their opinion. Yes there are going to be posts where people disagree but end of the day its a banter page. I know judging from the recent Dundee game you think its tripadvisor or something.

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24 Apr 2016 14:27:52
Listen to Aindoh, he has the secret inside information re signing players .
I wonder why Celtic. haven't signed more Rangers supporting players .
The main problem R D had he signed Allen and some player Allan arrived.

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23 Apr 2016 16:07:11
Michael Duffy scored at Ibrox today for Alloa. Are there genuine high hopes for him in terms of coming back and impacting the first team here next season or in the near future?

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23 Apr 2016 16:54:55
No chance. He's not done too well on his loan spell, think he'll be let go for next season.

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23 Apr 2016 19:44:14
Scoring at Ibrox is not any sign of ability .
Our team scored twice last week against Sevco and for some reason our bhoys wern't trying .

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24 Apr 2016 14:24:52
He even refused to clap in the guard of honour.

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23 Apr 2016 15:49:45
Have to admit that I am impressed with the way that RD has handled himself since announcing his departure. His honesty was refreshing about his own shortcomings and disappointment in the team not improving. While he admitted some players will be glad he is going, he never blamed them.

I wonder how long it will take for someone in the dressing room to bad mouth RD once he's gone and slate his tactics etc. I'm sure we all have an idea who the likely suspects may be.

If this happens which I'm sure it will, these players must be shown the door. The majority of them could take a leaf out of RDs book with his class and dignity.

Despite it being the right decision, I hope all fans get behind RD in the remaining fixtures to thank him for taking on the challenge despite the apparent lack of support from some behind the scenes at Celtic Park.

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23 Apr 2016 16:58:50
I think if any player has not put the effort in for Ronny this season they should be shown the door asap. Anyone not giving 100% in a Celtic shirt is not worthy of wearing it again.

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23 Apr 2016 18:09:53
Totaly agree stan19. If any player falls out or disagrees with the manager and his tactics that should not carry on to the field of play, and not give 100% to me and you at our place of work that is sabotage and would result in an instant dismissal. they're fully paid employees of Celtic fc and like it or not you follow the bosses orders. Rid the club of these snakes i say.

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23 Apr 2016 18:45:17
Totally agree stan19 and bhrydobhoy. Get rid of the disruptive element and in particular the ones who are no doubt being snakes as you say.

I'd love to see our younger players like Christie, Henderson and Roberts getting more of a chance next year along with players like Armstrong and Rogic getting an opportunity in their preferred positions.

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23 Apr 2016 19:47:59
The main fault I have with R D's tenure is him picking Commons after kris's unbelievable outburst in Europe .
I believe the Manager is always right as far as his players are concerned . The board let R D down badly on that occasion.

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23 Apr 2016 19:52:56
Surely if this is true we have the right to demand an investigation by the club. Why would anyone on the Board want players who have not given their all in games. People paying their hard earned cash to watch imposters. How dare they.

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23 Apr 2016 13:54:51
Hi all, just wondering what everyone thinks about the news this morning regarding RDs final months? I read on Twitter that NL had met with SB JF LG KC CM and physio TW around a month ago with RD hitting the roof when he found out. Apparently this rocked the changing rooms. Other players have been caught in the middle. TW was apparently put on gardening leave as he had been in the middle of undermining RD at lennoxtown.

Does anyone have any more info on this? I think in the full context of what had been the RD experiment, this needs to be exposed. It also sends out a message for any potential new manager that certain players maybe extremely disruptive if not shipped on.

If it's true (I'm just the messenger) it is a total disgrace.

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23 Apr 2016 15:20:54
I've always admired Lennon as a leader on the pitch and his ability to rally the troops on it. there's also a small matter of the harassment he and his family had to endure in the name of "football". He has his flaws thou, plenty of them. his time was up when he left, he done the proper thing.
Deila came with his ideologies, fitness, diet, fast flowing, pressing football but he delivered none. I'm not surprised to be honest, Norwegian football?
He had to go.
If it conspires that Lennon has met with senior members and staff and it was of matters to do with Celtic Football club and Deila (bit a bit of a reunion, beer or 2 and a chat) the level of respect I have for the man will have dropped a few bars
On a side note what has Jf to offer anybody. Don't answer that!

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23 Apr 2016 15:28:59
If Lennon becomes the next Celtic manager then there may be some truth in this, so let's wait and see.

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23 Apr 2016 16:26:14
Who is TW?

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23 Apr 2016 16:46:36
TTTS, think its time to stop badmouthing norwegian football when the norwegian league is a better rated league than SPL.

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23 Apr 2016 16:52:08
Why would Celtic put the physio on gardening leave for undermining Ronny with meetings with Lennon then appoint Lennon? And not deal with all the other players you mention? Silly rumour season and blaming game is in town.

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23 Apr 2016 17:46:29
Even with a Norwegian dragging us down in Europe Norwegianred Scotland's league is rated 23rd whilst Norway league is 26th rated so hopefully a new manager can push us on to where we should be rather than where we were heading.

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23 Apr 2016 18:48:25
Norwegianred, Celtic Football club are bigger than the Norwegian league. Stick to the bobsleigh sir.

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23 Apr 2016 19:55:36
T T T S . I think it was a bit rash of u to post about NL alleged meeting unless u are pretty sure of the facts . It is definitely something worth drawing attention too if true . If it is a load of rubbish, it shouldn't be spread .
One of the problems our supporters have is that they think they deserve better than a Norwegian manager . Celtic are no longer a glamourous European Club and we will get it difficult to attract Managers from the top drawer.

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23 Apr 2016 20:49:09
I didn't post the original, I only commented on it.

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23 Apr 2016 13:20:52
ED007 with your colleague ED023 on a "cultural exchange" to Benidorm and your good self recovering from organising street parties in Hamilton to celebrate your queens 90th birthday, I am thinking of hosting my own street party, I already have won a watch with Ronnie going and if Johansen and Forrest leave too, bring on the dancing girls.

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23 Apr 2016 14:49:33
I have the pleasure of sharing my birthday with Her royal slyness . That's where the similarities end . Whilst she was being calvacaded around in an open topped Rolls with a strange nazi looking Greek I was in a basement in Kensington doing a night shift .
The high and mighty indeed.

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23 Apr 2016 18:49:32
Oh. My humble apologies to the 2 royalists.

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23 Apr 2016 12:08:34
Not seen more than the highlights of Old Firm game which were brutal viewing in themselves. From the look of it though and what a good few people have been saying it sounds like over half the team downed tools. Now, the criticisms of RD are well documented and he looks to have lost the dressing room but players not trying for whatever reason in and Old Firm is unforgivable. After all the "we tried to get Rodgers/ Moyes/ O'Neil etc but. " stuff rolls out, I dread to think who we will actually end up with. The current board deserve more stick than RD and they will sell the fans down the river again and again.

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23 Apr 2016 12:23:36
I think I I important that this myth doesn't take hold. I was at the game and watched the 120 minutes. the team was poor but no one downed tools as you say. We had 33 attempts at goal. TRFC had 3 efforts on target. The problem was the way the team was set up to play we surrendered the pitch and the possession of the ball to them. The players were following the tactics laid out by the manager, who wanted to defend deep suck them in and hit on the break. it was a disastrous decision. one man up front with three ineffective and physically weak players was always going to result in us being unable to keep the ball. We were outnumbered in the midfield and down the flanks. Despite all his previous failings this was RD, s most flawed managerial performance to date. Some of the players are not good enough, but others are a will be better next year with a competent manager.

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23 Apr 2016 12:40:14
Fair dos man. As I said, I only had the highlights and what others have said to go on. There is a lot of dross at the club just now massive clear out would be good if possible but I fear we will continue with this failing model. Now there's a myth that we have this conveyor belt of talent model. We have coined it in on Wanyama, VVD and Forrster but if we were this great signing factory we would have replaced them all reasonably effectively. All we are doing is progressively downsizing. Anyone who thinks we have a current first 11 who could even grab a point in the CL is dreaming.

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23 Apr 2016 12:40:14
Fair dos man. As I said, I only had the highlights and what others have said to go on. There is a lot of dross at the club just now massive clear out would be good if possible but I fear we will continue with this failing model. Now there's a myth that we have this conveyor belt of talent model. We have coined it in on Wanyama, VVD and Forrster but if we were this great signing factory we would have replaced them all reasonably effectively. All we are doing is progressively downsizing. Anyone who thinks we have a current first 11 who could even grab a point in the CL is dreaming.

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23 Apr 2016 13:22:13
Although I agree 'Downed Tools' is too strong an accusation, there has been too many occasions where, the players have not seemed either confident, or even competent in some games.
Fitness, fight and form have all been lacking in big games and that is why we need a strong, experienced, motivator and tactician to take over the reigns. Too many players got away with too many poor performances through weak discipline and indecision.

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23 Apr 2016 13:22:38
Daviebhoy77 please get your facts right on this page thank you. There is NO "Old Firm" anymore the old govan club died.

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23 Apr 2016 13:25:34
Apologies Tim, I meant The Tribute Act.

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23 Apr 2016 20:04:57
I just wonder how anyone knows whether RD set the team up to sit so far back . They certainly didn't start with 6/ 7 players within 20 yds of own goals . They certainly didn't start the 2nd half or the 2nd half of extra time . I think the team could have worked harder and put more effort into their game . On many occasions we had 2/ 3 players breaking out and instead of working the ball through themselves they hit lazy long balls up to Sevco's defence who didn't have to be good to tidy up. We had a serious lack of work ethic which I have never seen as visible before in a Celtic team.

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23 Apr 2016 23:18:29
Because Craig Gordon told everyone in the press, the game plan was sit back let them have possession, win it from, them and hit them on the counter.

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23 Apr 2016 10:52:39
Last night on the Football bets forum I put up The Young Master currently about 8/ 1
But today I got a tip for a horse who ran poorly in the National
The Druids Nephew about 14/ 1 (the horse has the going he likes today and can run a big race) as usual go each way with bookmaker offering 5 places.

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23 Apr 2016 12:05:22
Doh it helps if I give time and the place. Sandown 4.10.

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23 Apr 2016 16:52:42
Well Tim went with your original young master tip had £20 e/ w thank you sir.

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23 Apr 2016 17:55:13
I went with the Druids one 5 each way Tim, did the young master win?

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23 Apr 2016 18:22:28
Pedro yes Young Master won (I was on at 9/ 1) and The Druids Nephew was placed 5th (I got on at 16/ 1) so a nice wee return hope you at least won a little if going with bookie paying 5 places.

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23 Apr 2016 09:01:14
Just read a name in a celtic blog thing.
What would people say to AVB

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23 Apr 2016 10:42:49
I'd say yes. But I think he wants to take time out mate.

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23 Apr 2016 11:52:13
He isn't Celtic minded :P.

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23 Apr 2016 14:04:16
Ye read that JimTim just a name that jumped out.
I know he had troubles in England but looks to be getting over them.
Rab that ain't a requirement of mine.

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23 Apr 2016 15:51:30
He had troubles alright. There was a mutiny at Chelski I think where key squad members went crying to Abramovich or something? Unfortunate there.

And Spurs, well he got the axe there after a string of poor results but he set a record for their BPL points tally and left still holding the best ever record for win %. Unfortunate there too imo.

He'd be a great shout. Too great in fact.

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23 Apr 2016 19:04:50
Il be happy with anyone who isn't Lennon. To be honest i think he is pi$$ing aganist the wind.

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23 Apr 2016 23:45:16
i think pennicilin workss.

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23 Apr 2016 00:57:17
This going to go down like a lead balloon but maybe just maybe ronny going is a mistake it took 3 years for him to get it right at stromsgodset we all knew at beginning his ideas were going to take time jeezo we have 5 in a row n our manager been hounded out yeah it ain't been pretty but now leagues in the bag! Beginning of week i was in mind maybe he should go but now am no sure.

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23 Apr 2016 01:30:00
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I was a strong supporter of R D but last Sunday's performance was just so bad he had to go. I don't know what happened, but there was something very wrong with team . Half of them didn't try and the other half were so bad that they didn't matter . Just two exceptions K T and Eric .

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23 Apr 2016 07:28:20
I was always a fan of RD and desperately wanted him to succeed, hoping last week would be the turning point. The main reason we have gone backwards this season is because we sold our best player last season. I think a lot of us didn't realise just how important van Dijk was, not just defensively or at scoring goals but also because he started most of our attacks by bringing the ball out from the back. Ronny has been unlucky in this aspect and it was always going to take more than a season to get over the loss of Virgil. However, where Ronny hasn't helped himself is that he never learns from his mistakes (set pieces, no plab B) , constantly plays the wrong/ out of form players and can't seem to motivate the team for big games. Unforunately, he had to go. I wish him all the best in his future career.

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23 Apr 2016 08:51:36
We've been selling our best players for seasons and not replacing them!

There's only so many excuses and reasons that I can stomach, and given that it's easier to get rid of a manager than an entire team, a CEO, and an imposter of a DoF, that's the way to go unfortunately, and hope things change.

Forget RD for a moment, thise players owe US some performances in the clising games and something to celebrate. It's been a long ass season.

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23 Apr 2016 09:06:07
Aye it has been torture at times but i said earlier all i want is the league title 5 down 5 to go championees 🍀.

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23 Apr 2016 09:37:23
Most of us were behind RD and realised that we needed a new approach - especially, with a board that continually penny pinches and sells any decent players we do manage to obtain.
The initial period was very difficult but we settled down to the new system and finished last season well - with two trophies, scoring plenty of goals in the process.
It was sensible to assume that we would progress and improve from there as the new manager gained experience and confidence.
However, this season has been plagued by European disappointment, lacklustre performances, mediocre signings and far too many under performing players, for far too long - resulting in two cup exits and one especially humiliating result in particular.
The manager and team have ultimately failed in achieving the same objectives as last season - even though the title is almost won.
The football has been nowhere near good enough far too often and if Aberdeen had not bottled it on so many occasions, things may well have been a lot worse and a lot more damaging.
RD carries the can [with his management team], but there are quite a few players that have let the club and themselves down so much that they too should be shown the door and they can usher out the few that should never have been signed in the first place.

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23 Apr 2016 11:09:42
I think whoever comes in as our next manager it's important that they are allowed to make the decisions.
I know it's not right, but players soon pick up on whether a manager has any real authority. They have to know that he is the man who is responsible for their futures at the club, and that he could influence how far they go in their careers.
It seems to me that if the board don't trust the manager to make decisions about his backroom staff and signings, is it any wonder the players won't trust that manager with their careers.
I think we should let a manager have full control over these matters, if he fails then nobody can be in any doubt where the blame lies.

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23 Apr 2016 11:19:28
We probably missed a trick not bringing him in as an assistant to a more seasoned manager.
I don't think around him helped at all, but I think Ronnie would have been an excellent foil to a harder style of manager (dare I say Keane? )
In time he may have developed into a fine Celtic man and have been ready for the job, but maybe it was to much to soon in his career.

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23 Apr 2016 12:18:42
That's been my thinking for a wee while now Island. Hail Hail.

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23 Apr 2016 20:12:40
I can't understand how anyone could think that, the Board or someone with a knowledge of Scot's football wouldn't have to appoint an assistant to R D . I just cannot comprehend how he would know and could appoint someone with Scottish knowledge. Many of RD back room staff are now Norwegian, one more stayed and then went back to Norway.

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23 Apr 2016 20:59:05
Old Bhoy, If he had such little knowledge of Scottish football, what on earth did the board appoint him for in the first place.
Your reply just shows what a stupid move it was by the board in hiring him.

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23 Apr 2016 00:23:57
What about Gary monk as next boss? Young ambitious likes to play good football. Out a job hungry for work. And before the look a Swansea replys come in look at the facts. They had best finishes under him and it only turned when his best player was sold (bony) and no funds to replace (sounds like job on offer)

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23 Apr 2016 01:57:50
sounds like same situation again. Good players sold, replaced with mediocre as no funds made available to replace with quality (and JC lurking in background along with PL) . No decent manager would want it.

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23 Apr 2016 20:18:24
I think J C won't feature next season . I think the reason R D is seeing out the season is in agreement with P Lawwell to keep J C from getting the job for the five matches .
I expect Collins to write a weekly article for the Daily Record . The D R won't worry about the truth if there are a few juicy bits.

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