Celtic Banter Archive November 22 2017

22 Nov 2017 23:18:17
The hammerings are becoming more frequent and although the top teams have all the money and best players we still make far too many basic mistakes and have too many 'invisible men' when the going gets tough. Lustigs injury did have some bearing but Boyata, simunovic and Gordon in particular were culpable, while Rogic and McGregor and Forrest at times found it hard to keep possession or find a teammate.
Broony and ntcham tried their best but we're often outnumbered and outfought.

BR should have improved the defence and goalkeeper in the last window however you can't expect to compete at this level if there is so much fear and panic in the minds of players he the pressures on.
The board has to back the manager, as there is no good banking so much CL profit while the team needs obvious improvement
Watching these horror shows is agony and it must be damaging to our young stars, who go from domestic deities to europes whipping boys on a regular basis and although it's not ideal preparation for our first cup final of the season it could be worse - we could have lost at home to Hamilton or failed to win 3 games in a row?
Hopefully a cup win will set us ip for the Anderlecht game and a chance to gauge how we can compete against a level maybe more suited to our resources and skill? However qualification for Europa will bring a new factor to the season with the Thursday - Sunday curse and more games than last term to contend with to achieve success.

23 Nov 2017 05:29:01
Good and honest post once a boy. We aren't at the races in these big games and our already low stock across Europe's elite will continue to get worse as we have results like this. Additions across the back line definitely needed in January. However, a cup final to look forward to so need to get behind the team big time. HH.

23 Nov 2017 06:59:18
Ouchhhh that was sore. Too good for us.

23 Nov 2017 07:24:07
Said before we can't really judge our euro progress with the big money teams just now . if we beat anderlecht and get to Europa then we will get a better gauge of where we are in euro terms . does that stop us improving the quality of the team especially in the areas where a blind man with a blind dog can tell we need to improve . no . no more squad players best quality we can buy . if we want to just dominate a very poor spl then bank the money . but imo in Jan we need a goalie. an experienced ch (or two) . and if dembele goes a striker.

23 Nov 2017 07:27:29
I agree with most of your post Once a Bhoy but last night I thought Craig Gordon had a good game.
CG is a great shot-stopper but pretty poor when it comes to his distribution and penalty box control.
Yes, he lost seven goals, but the 10 players in front of him were poor and gave too many balls away. As for the goals, It was obvious that PSG saw our right hand side as the weak point and most of those goals involved their attacks built up from there.
Once again, they had players queuing up to have a pop at goal when the ball was deliver from the left into the centre, Could CG have done better? Maybe a couple of times but generally he did what was right.
Broonie had a poor game by his standards and, his goal apart, Dembele spent more time on the left wing than running at them in centre.
But, in fairness, not many teams will live with this PSG group who seemed to attack and defend in packs. Credit where it is due and they played us like an old fiddle.

23 Nov 2017 09:11:07
Some great points made but if we are being realistic the TOP teams can do that to anyone on any given day. PSG (far better team this year) and Barcelona hammered each other in last years tournament and I agree it must be a blow to our confidence but we will never be able to compete with clubs spending £600m on players. that's 20 years Champions League money to us in 1 season! . or 300 years SPFL winners money!

23 Nov 2017 09:37:18
Tiny Gordon should have saved at least 2 of they goals last night.

23 Nov 2017 11:08:26
I did think that gordon was a good shot stopper but he hardly saved any last night and his positioning and reactions are getting worse - not to mention distribution.
I remember two games in particular in the nou camp where David Marshall and Fraser Forster saved us from absolute hammerings against top class teams but we really lack that defensive organisation and quality last line of defence these days.

23 Nov 2017 13:17:53
Gordon isn't good enough. His distribution is woeful most of the time and you just don't feel safe. We need three defenders and a goalie.

Nitcham has been a major failure for me . He isn't the player we hoped for.

This will focus the mind a lesser tanking would have painted over cracks.

It's over to Celtic, these humiliations were set up by making a total fecking arse of getting in defenders in the summer. And it was a total balls up. We didn't even have our best two cb's who aren't good enough and Bitton playing in defence shows you how farcical a situation we are in.

Get it sorted Rogers and if you do our home domination is further cemented.

Just get it done and give us a better chance in the Europa.

22 Nov 2017 21:41:41
Domestically we've been brilliant since BR came in and that is to be revered 100% but in Europe it's been shocking at times. Getting beat 7-0, 5-0 and 7-1 just isn't on and you can say what you like about PSG's money or whatever but that's always been the case, and let's not forget we have a bit of money too. Not to the same extent but we have enough to go out and get 2 right good centre halves and a goalkeeper. Ok we'll still lose to the PSG's of this world but maybe by 1, 2 or even 3 goals - not 5, 6 or 7.

22 Nov 2017 22:02:54
Kev
That PSG team will win it imo.

22 Nov 2017 22:03:04
beat 1 2 3 or 5 6 7 = 3 points to the opposition, that all that matters.

22 Nov 2017 22:12:18
Agree with that Kev. However good they are doesn't hide the fact our defending tonight was shocking. UEFA would be as well holding an 8 team tournament for teams that have spent over 500 million assembling their teams and let them fight it out. C'mon Pedro get the appeal in and get them on the Fifa fair play rule and get them kicked out. 🤣🤣🤣.

22 Nov 2017 22:24:44
Digibanger that’s nonsense mate, of course the nature of defeat matters. If you have a good defence you may still lose the game but you go into it thinking you might give yourself a chance if you can nick something up the other end. This PSG team are an extreme example but we could have beaten Bayern at home if we had a good defence and be looking to have a run deep into the EL. Can you see that happening with Bitton, Jozo or Boyata at CB and Gordon in goal?

22 Nov 2017 22:43:55
Couldn't agree more with everything you said kev. Getting beaten by a Barcelona, PSG, Munich etc is no disgrace given the financial gulf between them and us. What i do find unacceptable is getting pumped by 5,6,7 goals. For me that's not on. The defending at that level by us is shocking and is drastically needing looked at. Granted we can't go out and buy a 20,30 million defender, what we can do is go out and get players with the same idea and potential as big Virgil van dyke. we must use our scouting system to the max and source out the best quality that we can attract to Celtic. The defenders we have stroll the SPFL at a canter, but champions league, or Europa league for that matter definitely needs a step up in quality. Roll on Sunday and get this result out our systems.

23 Nov 2017 06:58:34
Some of the defending was a disgrace. That was PSGs biggest victory this season. Perhaps they turned it on, but I think it was more a case of us giving them a helping hand. Learn from it and move on Bhoys.

25 Nov 2017 07:47:20
'We have a bit of money as well' hahahah! League is priority and 3rd place in that group was what we wanted.

25 Nov 2017 07:48:40
Another left and right back along with 2 Centre Half's and a goalkeeper. Whenever Dembele goes his transfer fee along with the VVD money should be used for them. Expected a 4 or 5 nil but at the end of the day we where outclassed by a wonderful attacking team. Europa League after xmas was always the goal and that's more our level.

25 Nov 2017 07:48:32
Imo b. rogers european record must be worst in last 10 years but coz its him we are ok with it.

25 Nov 2017 07:51:11
Mon 2000 level playing field Neil Lennon 6 1 Barcelona I know we beat them too rodgers 7 away to Barcelona 7 away to psg the gap is huge back in 2003 bayern beat Mon Celtic 2 1 Celtic had a bigger wage bill than bayern!

22 Nov 2017 17:03:51
While I would love a draw tonight, I'd settle for a 2 1 defeat and Neymar sent off ☺️. Really just hoping we give a good account of ourselves.

22 Nov 2017 18:33:09
Neymar carried off more like.

22 Nov 2017
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22 Nov 2017 14:18:46
Tonight I hope Munich don't take their eye off the boil a point or even dare I say 3 points and the pressure will b on for our last game of CL will be well on.

22 Nov 2017 14:24:39
Team for the game for me
Gordon
Lustig. Jozo. Boyata. Tierney

Armstrong. Brown. McGreggor

Forrest. Dembele. Sinclair.

22 Nov 2017 14:44:43
Don't see us getting much at all tonight as we have the much more difficult penultimate tie. All we can do is try to better/ equal the Anderlecht result to keep us on track.
Much more excited about the cup final and hope we avoid any injuries for Sunday.

22 Nov 2017 05:55:21
Here we go again we're on the road again 🍀
Try catch yous in chat if I can get on later bhoys

Mon the hoops HH.

22 Nov 2017 09:56:25
Good Luck Welshy, Kronnenberg 1869 is mind blowing beer, please try and catch up on live chat later.

25 Nov 2017 07:40:04
Safe travels welsh bhoy.