Celtic Banter Archive February 22 2021

22 Feb 2021 23:05:11
Could Gus Poyet do a job as Manager next season under a good D. O. F?

23 Feb 2021 07:19:54
What about Paul Hartley?, he has been serving a good apprenticeship in football management.

23 Feb 2021 09:19:54
If any of them got near it there would be a meltdown on here.

23 Feb 2021 10:02:30
It's all about the banter Mally. HH.

23 Feb 2021 10:13:10
Aindoh, is that a serious suggestion? So you think Hartley is the man to come in, bring in players of anything up to maybe 10 new players and put a team together that’ll hit the ground running and be challenging from the off? mate u must be on a severe dose of Lennons deludamol.

23 Feb 2021 10:43:42
Anno Pedro but we're at a Mon and Brendan moment we have to get it right or it could be a long road back. the manager dof and structure has to be spot on.

23 Feb 2021 21:35:41
Agree Mally, I hope DD produces a couple of rabbits out his arse in the form of a top quality D. O. F and Manager.

22 Feb 2021 20:28:40
Thinking ahead to next season as this ones done the worry for me is that most of the players worh keeping want to leave. we will be needing a whole new defence new strikers ect . going to be a big ask of new manager to come in and gel a team straight away . It beggars belief we could get ourselves into such a mess in such a short period of time.

22 Feb 2021 20:48:16
I think new manager needs 3 transfer windows to get it right.

{Ed007's Note - A good manager/coach with money being spent on the team and the squad padded out with youth players being coached and trained right and we'll be back on track for next season. If the players we expect to leave all leave there'll be plenty of money for the rebuild

22 Feb 2021 21:15:04
Ed007 agree 100%, never understood the 2-3 windows or years behind scenarios. It all depends on the manager and level of investment. Not that we will, but if we brought in a Rafa, Ancelloti, type manager and gave him £30m to invest we would romp it.

{Ed007's Note - We've went from winning a Quadruple Treble to being 18 months behind? Nah, no chance. Look at what happened in MON's first season.}

22 Feb 2021 21:23:05
Hope your right ed but will have European qualifiers within weeks of being appointed will have to bring in about 7or 8 new players . yet we are still preserving with lennon personally think he must have been on a bonus to deliver 10 and will let him go once its mathematically impossible as it will cost less money. can't think of any other reason they wouldn't have changed it by now.

{Ed007's Note - Who'd realistically take the job right now - maybe JK has said he wouldn't step-up through loyalty to Lennon.}

22 Feb 2021 21:25:27
Ed 👍 have yirsel a Vladimir GIPHY.

{Ed007's Note -

via GIPHY

22 Feb 2021 21:45:17
Ed 😂👍.

{Ed007's Note - There's more Vlad ones than Keano ones, we need a GIF creator lol.}

22 Feb 2021 21:47:24
Hope your right ed but why not bring a manager in right away give him a chance to prepare before the European qualifiers doesn't make sense to keep neil lennon any longer if they have decided he won't be there next year.

{Ed007's Note - Bring in who though?}

22 Feb 2021 21:53:41
Ed Vladi just kills me I don’t know why 😂👍.

{Ed007's Note - Sergei and Yulia Skripal could tell you why..... 😉

22 Feb 2021 21:55:39
Do you think a new manager appointment is being held up because we are seemingly going down the D. O. F route and personally I think he should have the biggest input into the the new Head coach appointment.

{Ed007's Note - I don't think anything's being held up. Fans want things to happen immediately and that's never the case in football. I suspect JK has said he wasn't willing to step-up if Lennon was sacked and after that there was no option than to stick with NL. I don't realistically see anyone that would have taken over the way things were going and having to work with Lawwell.}

22 Feb 2021 21:55:44
Only reason am saying 3 windows is the volume of players who could be leaving we might only keep welsh, Taylor, McGregor and Turnbull in the first team maybe soro. To get a full squad bought in and hit ground running for Europe is hard. We should of made some changes in jan.

{Ed007's Note - We need someone to train and coach the players already here properly before we look at how many player we need.}

22 Feb 2021 22:13:42
Spot on Ed.
The fitness, desire and basic work rate have been missing this season.
Good managers/ coaches make players better.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

22 Feb 2021 18:37:33
Is Neil Lennon trying to wind us all up about guard of honour? No way under any circumstances would that be acceptable on basis they never gave us guard of honour when we won the league.

Sooner he goes the better.

22 Feb 2021 18:45:36
Remember. We're better than them and no need to stoop to their level. We hold our head high and take the moral high ground.


Christ knows that's all we have left this season.

22 Feb 2021 19:02:57
Right or wrong and I’m probably the latter on this one but I’m with Phil I wouldn’t give them a nod in the desert never mind a guard of honour.

22 Feb 2021 19:07:25
Greentree I will never accept it mate. Its rubbing salt into already wide open wounds.

22 Feb 2021 19:08:20
Personally I think it's been 'mathematically over' since we drew both home games after Dubai with no sign of the predicted Sevco meltdown.
However, we keep going through the motions until the BFKB sings.

22 Feb 2021 19:26:31
OAB it’s not over until it’s over but Arlene is warming his vocal chords.

22 Feb 2021 19:39:06
Lenny made comments about them not doing it and saying Celtic would have.

So, once again his after match comments come back to bite him on his arz.

Talked himself into a corner. Not doing it will make him look like a twat after making a song and dance. Hopefully he will have been sacked or resigned by then. Dream on.

22 Feb 2021 17:41:41
I've been the exact same all season Buzz. Says it all really. My Mrs and kids are going to ban me from watching Celtic 😆.

22 Feb 2021 17:00:19
It’s been a total nightmare and a disaster of a season for Celtic.
I can’t help but think that it would’ve been different if the C. V never appeared.
Only last March, Celtic were 15 points clear and now we find ourselves 18 points behind after the same 30 games played.
There’s not been many changes in personnel apart from Forster and Duff from our coaching.
Not enough to tip the scales from a 15 point positive to an 18 point negative in only 11 months.
Slippy, his staff and players were on their knees before the C. V appeared.
Slippy might not have received a 3rd chance.
And Celtic were on the verge of a 2nd treble under his watch.
I was wanting to ask all your opinions, if you think C. V changed everything or
Do you think Celtic would still have thrown 10 in a row away.

22 Feb 2021 17:23:01
For me buzz bomb there’s loads of factors can be blamed. The recruitment quality and time it takes for Celtic do so business, bolingoli going away on a mad overnighter tae Spain, who even does that? Players coming into pre season unfit and according to lennon continuing that throughout the season, C.V. effecting umpteen players away on international duty coming back and self isolating, that stupid Dubai trip during a C.V., tactics, selections. the whole thing from the off had disaster written all over it for me, but IMO in terms of the league I personally felt we were in trouble October last year. The 3-3 at aberdeen was enough for me and I said change was needed then.

22 Feb 2021 17:42:48
while i don't like admitting it it has to be said that that mobs consistency this season has been the key and has to be acknowledged and we would have had a fight on our hands but they have not had to feel any sort of pressure throughout the whole season and we will never know how they would have coped with that. but there's no doubt cv has played a massive part in our season in loads of different ways and subsequently played into there hands, if this wasn't the case i believe we would have had enough to get the 10.

22 Feb 2021 17:47:34
Buzz Bomb

It’s all soon to be history and not for a second does it deflect rightful criticism directed at the board, management and players.

But yes I think the current health crisis changed everything and no I don’t think they’d have won the league if the supporters were in the stadium for various reasons.

Firstly, the games stacked up and points lost directly due to the Bolingoli and Dubai fiascos with players self isolating etc.

Secondly, the atmosphere in a packed Celtic Park is phenomenal and we’re the teams 12th man. We make average Celtic players better and good players a yard faster. You said it yourself look at Liverpool results and there has been records broken for all the wrong reasons across Europe.

Thirdly, they have been serial bottlers and have benefited from not having their mob on their backs.

Fourth, there would have been no hiding place for the board, manager and players from the supporters anger and disappointment.

Right down to us losing out on Davies when we badly needed a centre half when in any other year Liverpool would not have been shopping by Klopp’s own admission at PNE.

It was just the perfect storm.

22 Feb 2021 17:49:23
A mix of CV, Poor Management, Tactics, Players unfit and underperforming, A total disconnection between the fans and The Board. Everbody seen this coming and a change was needed back in October when we still had a chance of competing for the league. NL should have been gone after the Ferencvaros games yet he's still here lurching from 1 disaster to the next. Im sure many fans watching predicted the RC goal as soon as the free kick was given. I turned the TV off straight away when he came on laughing. He now has a who cares attitude im here till the summer no matter what rubbish comes my way.

22 Feb 2021 18:31:41
It has definitely had an impact on the season that there is no doubt. But I still feel Lennon was living of rodgers work. How many signings Lennon has made that improved the team. I'd say only frimpong (not sure if it was his) and turnbull. Our recruitment in the summer is what has done us complete disaster. Then after that just Lennon's tactics. We miss the fans that's the big one as we woukdnt have let standards get so poor.

22 Feb 2021 19:41:29
Our demise is entirely down to. two people. Lawell and Lennon. Every other excuse is total BS.

22 Feb 2021 20:52:50
Magicpole who made excuses?

22 Feb 2021 15:39:06
My assessment of Peter Lawwell goes something like this:
Overall he did very well on the commercial front, if only he hadn't meddled on the football front. HH.

22 Feb 2021 14:03:06
Shane Duffy is been targeted by the rangers supporters on Twitter calling him a fenian B*******. Also saying sick things about his late father. I'm sorry now but there's now need for this crap. The police in Scotland should be investigating this sectarian abuse of players. Pure scum.

22 Feb 2021 14:26:20
Its probably a few young policemen doing the tweets!

22 Feb 2021 14:49:21
Paul welcome to the West of Scotland. Where Shane Duffy is from like us he’s seen and heard it all before. I’m sure some of the abuse he’s had from some of our so called own has hurt him more. That’s certainly how I would feel. What they say or do is of no interest to me although I’d wear what the called him like a badge of honour.

As they say if Coco the Clown calls you an idiot does it matter?

22 Feb 2021 15:00:12
Very true JFP.

22 Feb 2021 15:09:16
I've said for ages that Sectarianism is as important as Black Lives Matter, Rainbow laces, Zero Tolerance issues, campaigns against anti-semitism, Islamophobia and every other hate-crime; but this country has an aversion; because it is steeped in Sectarianism itself.

22 Feb 2021 15:57:18
The establishment in our small minded nation, built on the Kirk and its teachings, are not interested as by and large it doesn't affect them.

They're still happy to take our votes though.

22 Feb 2021 16:25:30
If only there was something that could make it illegal to discuss anything that can remotely be linked to hate crime. Oh wait religion is still fair game. Ah well bash on. They may take our freedom of speech but they will never take our sectarianism!

Humza will make it illegal to talk in your own home while bashing of religion is fair game.

22 Feb 2021 16:47:06
spot on JFP i certainly wear it like a badge of honour. only if they knew there ancestors were just like us before it was forced out them.

22 Feb 2021 17:12:50
United Ireland indeed they were Scotland’s history is a Catholic history but you wouldn’t know it by looking at the school curriculum. Unfortunately the victor writes the history books. I remember as a laddie standing outside the Orange Hall in the village I came from waiting on the bus it was what they referred to as an all blue night before the orange walk. I know colour co-ordination has never been their strong point.

They’d a singer up singing the massacre of Glencoe. A massacre ordered by William of Orange against Catholic clan McDonald for not swearing allegiance to the king. I was thinking the last time I was in Rome how they would get their head round Bonnie Prince Charlie being buried in the Vatican. An education would be a shock to their system.

22 Feb 2021 18:29:03
Yes indeed JFP, the only problem is an education would kill them.

22 Feb 2021 18:48:58
Pedro

Pedro when Pope John Paul 2 came to Glasgow in 1982 there was a bus left the village I grew up in to protest. They’re good at protesting that’s what they do by definition. Big Paisley was the organiser and cheer leader.

Anyway my old man God rest him came in off the nightshift in the morning and said to us ‘I see we’ve got a deef Pope’. I said to him ‘whit? ’. He said ‘you’ll see it when ye go oot’ and went to his bed.

They’d sprayed NO POPE HEAR across the road. 😂.

23 Feb 2021 10:05:15
spot on mate. they praise William of orange some one who never even stepped foot in Scotland had no time for the scots and never felt safe to go there as he was hated in Scotland. praise a regime that slaughtered the way of life and culture of there ancestors brain washed lot they are. and hate us for embracing who we are and who our ancestors were.

22 Feb 2021 12:40:16
I'm looking for positives we can take from this season and I found three:

(1) We couldn't get into Celtic Park and didn't need to watch what has been a monument act of self harm live.

(2) They can't get into to Ibrox to see them win the league for the first time in 10 years.

(3) Our senior management, management, recruitment and youth development needed overhauled and hopefully this will be the catalyst although it could have waited a season.

Apologies but it's the best I can do.

22 Feb 2021 12:48:24
We signed Turnbull, secured the quadruple treble and you had pie and bovril.

22 Feb 2021 12:55:03
OAB Turnbull and the quadruple treble are indeed positives I stand corrected.

👍 Two pies and a bovril ma first in two years 😂.

22 Feb 2021 13:21:32
Lawell leaving. We could debate for year's if he's done a good job but fresh look and Idea's from the new bhoy can only be good.
We don't have the disgusting feeling waking up a Zombie.

22 Feb 2021 13:29:45
JFP and OAB2, I'll take all of the above.
Just wait till we sign Messi on a free transfer in the summer with Jose Mourinho coming in as D. O. F - that's when the revolution starts!

22 Feb 2021 13:57:23
😂😂 pie's JFP. That's the highlight of the season.

22 Feb 2021 14:06:53
Auf1888 I had that one in that they’re still what they are in the morning and we’re no but took it out on the basis that it is a blessing rather than a positive and that we hold this truth to be self evident.

22 Feb 2021 14:41:15
JFP1888
Very true.

22 Feb 2021 05:58:00
Hi Ed,

Can you pass on my email to Welshy please?
Great news that your feeling much better:)

Can't seem to see the link for the past live matches
Cheers.

{Ed007's Note - Done mate and thanks, I had a great night's sleep and didn't get up until after 11 which isn't like me at all but it's done me a power of good.
You can see past live chats HERE.

22 Feb 2021 12:26:56
Afternoon ED last night u use a pic of Roy Keane was it cause it was funny or is it a sign of things to come?

{Ed007's Note - It was to wind JFP up but I've already said I think Keane will be the next manager.}

22 Feb 2021 12:40:57
After last nights result and the fans becoming more and more frustrated do u think ED that may speed up any announcements for the clubs way forward to be made by the club quicker than maybe planned to?

{Ed007's Note - No.}

22 Feb 2021 12:54:00
The changes need to be made as soon as the final whistle goes on our last game because of all the damage that has to be undone IMO.
It has to be an event like the MON or previous manager appointment and subsequent effect and improvement ASAP.

22 Feb 2021 12:57:37
Well i hope we hear soon to what's going to one way or another.

22 Feb 2021 13:06:57
Rich T Ed peace be upon him was just trying to send me to bed with the fear. 😂.

22 Feb 2021 11:38:16
Who else thinks we are in real trouble for next season as things stand just now?

22 Feb 2021 11:47:24
As it stands we will be playing for at least £30 million next season.
Unless the Ukraine clubs can pull back a 0.325 coefficient point deficit.

22 Feb 2021 11:49:11
Massive rebuild needed I would take not winning league next year but big improvements and good recruitment going forward this isn't going to be a quick fix. Too much dead wood and ones no want to be there. Young welsh and Turnbull buikd team around them.

22 Feb 2021 12:12:46
I suppose it all depends on if there is going to be a restructuring of the club, who is brought in and who isn't.
My own opinion is that with the size of the re-build it is highly unlikely that we will win the league next year. It could be done but I doubt it.

22 Feb 2021 12:15:31
People say the players are there but am not so sure the keeper needs replaced at least 2 fbs 2cbs a winger and a striker . that would suggest the players aren't there. and we need to send the loans back and shift rogic prob Johnson and ralston we don't know about griff, klimala and ajeti not for me julien long term injury eddy and ajer could be away. Christie can go. massive job for the new guy not lennon.

22 Feb 2021 12:22:11
We need about 7 or 8 new players if the one's expected to go leave, and the one's who are not good enough. In my opinion you can kiss goodbye to qualifying next season.

22 Feb 2021 12:58:26
The boost they will get from winning the title by such a distance makes the task all the more difficult. DD must use his financial incentive to get a quality manager with proper backing.

22 Feb 2021 13:42:39
Agreed OAB2, DD is THE man to make it happen. He has the cash as well as the contacts.
The calibre of manager and D. O. F we bring in will set our stall out for the quality of players they can attract.

22 Feb 2021 14:29:16
I'd say we'll need a lot more than that Royjac. The loan players we can rule out of the squad Laxalt, Kenny, Duffy, Moi as well as the players loaned out this season that don't seem to have a future at the club Ntcham, Hendry, Shved, Bayo, Boli. Then the players with a year left on their contracts that'll likely be sold so we don't lose them for nothing and will bring in the biggest money for us Eddy, Ajer, Christie, Griffiths. Will Brown retire? Ralston only a year left too and best he's moved on. Rogic is a wasted jersey. Sell Bitton or keep for one more season? (Kev83 came up with a good suggestion) Klimala needs a loan and regular games to develop. That's without mentioning Frimpong and Elhamed who have already left that need replacing.

22 Feb 2021 16:29:34
No team would pay money for griffiths. Hibs might take him on loan and wait until he's a freebie.

23 Feb 2021 01:46:12
Griffiths was to a lesser extent but will be in his final year nevertheless and not likely to get a new deal. Use Griffiths to get Nisbet or Doig.

22 Feb 2021 10:07:25
Was listening to wings there and realised I've got a sister called Susan, a brother John, I'm Phil and a wife Denise lol.

22 Feb 2021 08:17:23
A posted a while back about celtic having conceded more from set pieces than any other team, well nothing has changed and neither has the manager. gross mismanagement on a grand scale. but wheres your money we want it. scunnered.

22 Feb 2021 09:26:23
Duffy was the answer.

Players have to take more responsibility. Lennon's lack if tactics meant we didn't break them down. Not his fault laxalt is lazy defensively and let his man go.

We are a team lacking any sort of physicality in the air. Duffy was meant to help resolve that but has been brutal.

22 Feb 2021 10:19:50
Fifer its his fault when you see our smallest players marking players that are good in the air like vs Aberdeen on Wednesday and regularly during the season.

22 Feb 2021 10:48:03
At what point was Laxalt marking White, it was brown who lost his man and never even got his feet off the ground.

Fact is they are one of the worst teams at defending from corners and we were playing it short. We are a shambles.

The club haven’t answered for anything and won’t. Stubborn arseholes the whole lot of them.

22 Feb 2021 11:03:01
Ken
If you watch the goal again.
It was Laxalt that was marking their goal scorer.
The big guy ran forward to meet the ball and Laxalt for some reason went in the opposite direction.
Laxalt ended up on his own by the back post. In no mans land.
The free kick came in the first place because Laxalt couldn’t control the ball in the middle of the park and then the ball broke wide before a foul was committed.

22 Feb 2021 11:07:10
It could be worse.
Laxalt and Duffy could be tied down on 3 or 4 year contracts.

22 Feb 2021
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Surely enough is enough

22 Feb 2021 07:08:18
Is anyone else completely embarrassed by our team at the moment, how many bad results does one man have to get before he realises what a horrendous job he has actually done - let's be real about our achievements without the dirty blues in the league we walked in and we should of with the resources getting ploughed into the club - Neil Lennon has one things yes but anyone winning the SPL on football manager could of achieved what he has - he is an absolute joke, a crap manager and being shown up by a manager with lesser resources, no trophy winning experience absolute destroy us in the league and to ruin the hope we have had for over five years to do the ten - this is just not acceptable this guy should be thrown out of our club now to draw the line in the sand and everyone backing him or support him should be told to **** off also.

22 Feb 2021 09:23:57
There’s more wrong with the club than just Neil Lennon.
Getting rid of Lennon isn’t going to solve all of our problems.
Although he is a big part of our problem.
Celtic have other issues from board level, recruitment and also with our players.

22 Feb 2021 10:05:47
Correct buzz bomb it it needs to start somewhere. We’ve a new CEO coming in, get the DOF sorted pronto and get lennon out. Enough is enough.

22 Feb 2021 03:03:23
When the fixture list was announced in June and the 2020 Scottish Cup Semi Finals and the Final were on the same weekend as league games, I knew Celtic were getting put under extra pressure.
And then Bolingoli made matters worse.
Now the Premiership finds ourselves an extra 4 weeks up on previous seasons.
We normally have a 3 week winter break and the SPFL brought last nights game forward by 7 weeks because we had a free weekend due to the 2021 Scottish cup being suspended.
With there being no winter break this season, was there any need to squeeze all those games in before the New Year.
The SPFL and the SFA knew there were no spare midweek fixtures to play our rearranged games.
It should've been played like any other Scottish Cup Semi Final and Final.
With no league fixtures that weekend.
There was no respect for the competition, especially with a Premiership league game finishing just before the Scottish Cup final started.
Was it because Celtic were trying to win a Quadruple Treble?
I find it strange why the sports tea time news didn't give the Quadruple Treble winners a mention on Monday evening but covered the league matches.
By bringing league games forward by 7 weeks, it now looks like this season's title will be wrapped up in record time.
I think the earliest a league has been won was on March 16 1929.
Celtic did win the league with 9 games to go but it took until April that season.
Celtic have also won the league recently at the end of March but there was still half a dozen league games still to be played.
If the Scottish Cup does get cancelled, all the Premiership league games will be finished by the end of April.

22 Feb 2021 06:39:24
Buzz bomb totally get what your saying 100%, but the bottom line here is if the league is won in record time that’s our own fault. As a team/ management we’ve totally imploded this season. We can look at all the reasons from unhappy players, bolingoli taking a 24 hour holiday to Spain to the shambolic Dubai trip etc etc. The bottom line is we’ve massively contributed to the league being over in record time. God, other than the green tinted specks brigade the majority of honest fans new the league was over by Christmas, some folk just couldn’t bare to admit it.

22 Feb 2021 09:03:17
There were many factors that made this season how it transpired and the fixture list, timing of games and KO's did look ominous.
However, we have been criticizing the 'random' fixture list for years, but still had the squad, class and momentum to overcome.
The two week suspension after Bolingoli was damaging enough, but we also had European disasters, vindictive publicity, financial punishment and a player-revolt all combining to destroy any team spirit and common goal we had left.
The manager was fighting a losing battle from then on and with new signings struggling to settle in a lockdown environment, challenge and injury after every International break, we never recovered.
I doubt any other club would have allowed the situation to run, but our Board decided to back him to spite the support and as well and they joined the under-performing calamity from top to bottom.
To let things slip was bad enough in this season of all others, but to self-destruct and allow Sevco to humiliate us is criminal.

22 Feb 2021 01:36:06
What more can we say? It is 100pc Lennons responsibility. He can no longer hide and needs to go.
Twice in 1 season to Rods County.
Almost as bad as mid 90s or Tony Mowbray.

22 Feb 2021 02:11:01
Its actually worse than when Mowbray was in charge, Mowbray never came out and said that there are reason's for the performances but its a secret and I'm not telling.
He also then never came out and said "The season is not the unmitigated disaster that everyone makes it out to be" and then state "We’re not setting targets"
Sorry but I thought as a football manager there were always targets set out and you were judged on meeting them.
The man is so far passed deluded that its now embarrassing.