Celtic Banter Archive April 22 2018

 

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Fraser Forster

22 Apr 2018 19:13:38
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22 Apr 2018 14:39:40
So it's settled the scenario is if The sheep win on Friday against the wee huns we must beat the big Huns òn Sunday to be champs. If the sheep lose or draw on Fridaý we just need a draw on Sunday. Bring on the party of all party's with 8000 Sevies to witness it .

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22 Apr 2018 17:52:24
I hope Celtic have the revenge huddle organised it’s been a long time since 1999. ☘️.

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22 Apr 2018 20:21:38
Sundays game, let's make sure OUR house is in order (this time) .
We will NOT lower the tone like last, it is still getting thrown in our face and even if the result is not the one we want.
We all want to win the title vs rangers at home, so we now have the game and chance we wanted.

Lets have a PARTY and show everyone that Glasgow is Green and White.

Hail Hail the Celts are here.

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22 Apr 2018 22:21:47
You sound like one of my old school teachers Peterboy. I Promise to be on my best behaviour 🤣🤣.

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22 Apr 2018 23:52:37
Stevie: WE really need to be on our best behaviour mate, or the press and their lot will never never never let us forget it.

In 99 i was in the area, but not going to the game.
The atmosphere was toxic to say the least and so it turned out.

So let's all enjoy the possibilities of the day, but let's be safe.

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23 Apr 2018 08:12:07
It doesn’t matter about the Aberdeen game. We just need to win on Sunday.

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23 Apr 2018 08:48:24
Was at the game in 99 and no being able to get back to the motor because of a hail of bottles and rocks being thrown down Millerston St from the knuckle draggers outside the Louden . Win lose or draw the Huns will riot.

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23 Apr 2018 09:38:28
If any of our supporters step out of line it will give the msm the excuse to water-down our success so they can concentrate on all the trouble and not the title win.

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23 Apr 2018 14:36:26
Know where you're coming from Peter, the hun-meedja are desperate to deflect from - not only away from our success and triumphs, but to gloss over the crisis and possible demise of TRIFC 2012.

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23 Apr 2018 23:00:12
Surely the Glasgow Police won't let Rangers fans riot or cause trouble.

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22 Apr 2018 13:54:45
bad day at the office or same glaring mistakes being made? We have now lost three games to the exact same tactic, press high and have two pacy players from middle to front. The key? These teams all kept two runners up. Yet we keep falling for it. Frustration does not cover it.

While i always want to see us play out have we the players for it? On this evidence no. I include Gordon in this, as the amount of times he chips up to halfway only for us to lose it is shocking. It's only close control, you practice it every week, so what's the problem? Why are we not making angles?

When you watch teams in Europe who have passed us to death, sadly there are a few, they draw us in and play in tight threes and fours, all confident because they know a team mate will be only five yards away. We never seem to have this it's always 10-20 yards, hence the flyers can shuttle across, IF they play two.

This must be addressed. The cup final will be the same, high energy with two up who will run and chase everything. I would be hugely surprised if murty does not try the same to be honest. And young Hendry, who i like, is not a right back, not against proper wingers who go outside. The boy was exposed a few times.

Finally. Did McGinn pass his audition? i would say yes, but not for crazy money, he still has to learn more.

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22 Apr 2018 14:49:52
Ajer and KT are the only defenders comfortable under pressure, whereas, Gordon, Boyata and Hendry repeatedly made basic mistakes yesterday and opponents know if they press us high and wide we will give the ball away because as you say, we lack the quality and organisation to combat this tactic and Hibs, Motherwell, Hearts, Kilmarnock and St Johnstone have all given us problems in these areas and the same can be said to a certain extent with the midfield as all you have to do is compare the performances, Of Broony, McGregor and Rogic against Sevco - where they had time and space and yesterday, where it was hectic and harrasing.
James Forrest (who has not been at his best for a while) was getting no change out of Stevenston, but we had nothing on the other wing until Sinclair came on to switch the attacks and playing through the middle brought little luck or success.
I agree Muttley will have this in mind for Sunday, but hopefully that result/ performance yesterday - and the return of Dembele will be motivation enough to get this in the bag.

The summer window will be crucial as it seems we may lose some star players (as well as surplus) and it is imperative we, not only replace them, but improve the standards in key areas, not only for European progress, but to keep a healthy distance between ourselves and the two or three, improving domestic opponents, (Hibs, Kilmarnock and Motherwell) who are finding ways to not only stop us playing, but take the initiative and the points.

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22 Apr 2018 17:18:38
Settle down 3 defeats in 2 years. The defence has been Garbage so hopefully Boyata and Simunovic will be away and replacements brought in. The squad will have an overhaul in the summer. We haven't divine rights to win every game and will lose from time to time. I will be happy with a Double Treble and getting into the CL next season.

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22 Apr 2018 17:39:17
We lost yesterday because our players heads were not in the right place . It reminded me of the European Cup final of 1970, when Jock had told everyone beforehand that the Dutch were bad and Celtic would win .
It wasn't the Hibs formation but their greed and hunger for the ball all over the pitch . our midfield were wiped out by fair means or foul and Mc Clean only started to yellow card them in the final 10-15 minutes . When you are trying to attack and your mid field is wiped out, then your defence will have a very difficult game and so we had. In hind -- sight it might have helped if we had a left back but K T was either attacking or doing little . After the 2 seasons Scot Brown has had I am sure we can forgive him for yesterday . l G is not ready or fit to lead our attack . I am continuously worried about P R, I doubt if B R will try to get a deal for him . The reason he has had limited time is pretty obvious and he will have to do more than bless himself to win me over

We can't have become such a bad team within a week, Rangers 2021 may have made us look better than we are, but if we weren't Champions Elect we would have handled Hibs differently . Hibs were helped by an offside opening goal, described by Stubbs as just a bit offside . I know how I would have felt yrs ago if any of my daughters when teenagers told me they were just a bit pregnant.

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22 Apr 2018 20:31:29
Chris we were beaten by a better team yesterday. Hibs went 1 on 1. They asked individual players to win individual battles and they did. Fair play to them. No point trying to look for excuses about heads not being in right place. Their heads should be in the right place. May as well say they were not fit. we were outfought. It has happened several times this season. We get teams in our face and we can get a bit lost. Game lost move on but we will need to get our act together for next week and for Motherwell. Worrying stat is that since Jan teams like Hibs, Kilmarnock and Rangers have the same points total as us. (I think that's right) and that is not good enough. We can talk about losing 3 times in 2 seasons or whatever but over the last 1p or 12 games we are no better points wise than Killie and Hibs. Too many draws, not putting games to bed. Maybe we are becoming complacent. We have much better players but we need to do better than yesterday.

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22 Apr 2018 21:06:56
They were out played yesterday in the sense that hibs came out the traps quicker, high intensity, quick passing, and quick movement on and off the ball, with their midfield playing in midfield and then defending when attacked. Celtic were slow to recover and get it together, it was like watching a different team. Maybe that was BR's master plan. lol
Celtic Team slow the game down and can't deal with being pressed as we have all seen. When Celtic play the tops teams away from home and if they are playing the young boys in defence then they should go with 4 at the back to cover each other and install confidence in each other.

Personally i don't think Br will take PR, and i am not a great fan of the price that's banded about for him.

Roll on Sunday at home and hopefully we will have the intensity and passion and the Hibs game a distant memory

Even a small mouse has anger.

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22 Apr 2018 22:17:47
Don't think you can blame Hibs for wanting big money for McGinn, if Hibs hold onto him and some others, they can be Celtics main challengers next year, if they sell him, I think it will be for a lot more than some of the amounts I have seen mentioned in posts on here.

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{Ed007's Note - Can you see McGinn signing a new Hibs deal or Hibs letting him run down his contract and leave on a free next summer though, Aindoh? I'd be surprised if anyone would pay the £5 million that Lennon mentioned simply because of the contract situation - would I be upset if we signed the lad for a deal that could eventually total £5 million with Scott Allan and add-ons? No, I think it would still be a good deal for us. Outside of Celtic he is by far the best player in the Scottish league imo.}

22 Apr 2018 23:12:35
No, what I meant was, there might be some teams in the EPL that would want him, and they would pay more than the three million plus Scott Allan, and then you balance that against Hibs doing well in all competitions next year, the league cup, Europe, Scottish cup, league, with increased attendances for an entertaining winning team, and all that increased income, what gets me is some of the numbers talked about, some people on here would be quite happy to pay ten million for some guy from some faraway place, with a strange sounding name, but a Scottish guy would be a waste of money, Scott Brown cost £4.5million I think, and there was a lot of criticism about spending that much, but I thought he was a brilliant signing, and I think John McGinn is a much more talented footballer and if Celtic do sign him I would have him in the team ahead of Brown.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd be surprised if any English team would stump up £5 million for him though and what level would they be, bottom of the EPL or the Championship? Would he be a first choice for them, working for managers that are always only a couple of bad results away from the sack. This summer the power is in McGinn's hands, going into the last year of his deal he can force Hibs into a corner regarding his destination.}

23 Apr 2018 12:16:15
He wants to play for us. Allen and £3/ 4m will secure him. We should go for him. If we do there is more chance I will be the next rangers manager, than him turning us down.

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23 Apr 2018 23:10:55
Mc Geoch is a better player than McGinn . Mc Ginn was also very good on Saturday and the Hibs midfield took complete control . This left Celtic defence totally unprotected and not at all capable of dealing with the pressure .
Having said that Hibs scored an off side goal plus a completely legal goal .
Even when we got over run Hibs couldn't really punish us on the score line.
Brown went from poor to terrible bad but after the 2 seasons he has had we cannot fault him too much . I don't believe that Hibs had any special tactics or players that we couldn't match . However Saturday was a game that too many of our players didn't turn up to play . This has rarely happened in the last 2 years but of course we would prefer if it didn't ever happen.

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24 Apr 2018 19:35:44
Johnny Mac Hibs are not a better team than Celtic . League positions don't lie
On the day Hibs out fought us .
At the end of the day only a goal, that was off side and wrongly allowed, was the difference between two teams, one miss firing and playing well below form and the other firing on all cylinders .
It really does my head in the lack of respect that some Celtic fans have for their team

Even die heart Hibs fans wouldn't claim to be a better team than Celtic.

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22 Apr 2018 11:07:12
Anybody following the guys on loan?

Christie - Should be given a season at Celtic next year and if it doesn't work out let him move on.

Allan - Hibs seems a good fit for him should make his move perm.

Benyu - hasn't started since Jan for Oldham, was he injured?

Sviachenko - Seems to be playing well but i feel his time is up at Celtic.

Ralston - has jumped on the dundee utd ship who have been a bit like the titanic but he is getting minutes under his belt.

Hazard - 5 cleansheets in 12 appearances, looks to have a big future ahead of him.

Morgan - been on fire in championship hopefully hit the ground running in pre season.

Ciftci - no comment.

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22 Apr 2018 13:10:57
I’d keep Christie, Sviatchenko and Ralston out of that group. Ralston was knocked off his stride by injuries so deserves more time and Sviatchenko, even as back up, is a better option than Boyata and possibly Jozo too.

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22 Apr 2018 13:54:22
Use Allen in the mcginn deal.

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22 Apr 2018 14:49:20
That’s a given. Him and £2m maybe £3.

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22 Apr 2018 16:26:07
Would rather have Sviatchenko than Boyata!

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22 Apr 2018 17:14:35
We don’t need McGinn if Rogic and Armstrong decides to stay.

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22 Apr 2018 17:40:45
I have watched McGinn against us and honestly, can't see what all the fuss is about. He would not get a game before any of the current midfield players yesterday - or Armstrong and if Rogic and Armstrong do leave, I think he would have to step up a level or two to appreciate what is expected at Celtic - as opposed to others.

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22 Apr 2018 17:47:28
We need to be careful who we let go or sell. Two Celtic players were amongst the best players on the field yesterday . Ambrose and Mc Geoch .
Although I noticed Ambrose wasn't even Booked yesterday when he jumped two footed into one of ours, if he had been wearing a Celtic shirt, he would have been gone .
Mc Clean also did the dirt re time . 5 subs 2.mins 30 sec . Injury to two Hibs players and waiting almost a min to get sub on 3 mins in total . Another injury 1 min . When 5 mins added sign went up Mc Ginn went down injured . Hibs didn't send anyone on as he would have had to step off pitch . He was down 55 secs and ref played 5 secs over 5 mins . Mc Clean didn't cost us the match, but he wasn't fair or impartial.

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22 Apr 2018 18:25:30
My opinion is we'll regret not talk g mcginn he's strong as an ox can pass can score and has a great engine and he's now an international which gives him more worth . hope this doesn't come back to haunt us.

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{Ed007's Note - That's twice this season that McGinn has totally bossed our midfield, once at home without Brown and yesterday with Brown in there and he also put in a great shift and held his own in the 2-2 draw at Easter Road too.
If the Club and Rodgers are serious about buying the best young Scottish players it would be a huge mistake to not at least try to sign McGinn. He's already a better player than Brown was at the same age, he's an ideal replacement for Armstrong and the lad would walk to Celtic Park to sign for us.}

22 Apr 2018 20:40:06
Spot on ed av been saying for a while we should be trying to sign this bhoy Celtic mad as well always helps.

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{Ed007's Note - It's a no brainer for me and I'd be surprised if the fee would be anywhere near the reported £5 million that Hibs are said to be looking for - not for a player going into the last year of his contract. £3 million and getting Scott Allan off the books as part of any deal for McGinn would be a win-win for us.}

22 Apr 2018 22:13:45
kevbhoy what planet are you living on? to suggest erik is better than jozo and boyata is total madness! jozo and boyata are our best central defence pairing and brendan knows it too. The real problem in our defence is jack hendry who is totally out of his depth and a total liability. All you so called fans hound boyata but he was solid against rangers in cup and is miles better than hendry who is just a dundee standard player nothing more open your bloody eyes.

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23 Apr 2018 00:07:48
So people are so called fans because they can see what even Stevie wonder can, and that’s boyata is atrocious! By far one of the worse defenders I’ve witnessed at celtic Park! And the reason he looked solid against sevco is because they didn’t attack us! Hibs had more chances in the first 5 min than thst mob had in the first hour! Boyata and jozo for that matter are dreadful defenders, and that’s me being kind! Not saying Eric is the answer, but he didn’t make anywhere near the mistakes these 2 make, especially boyata! And if Brendan knows that jozo and boyata are our best pairing then why hasn’t he paired them since jozo got sent off at the crumble dome! Think it’s u that needs his eyes open pal! Anyone who can defend boyata, and make any sort of case for him being anywhere near good enough for us needs there head examined! The guy makes me wish ambrose was still with us! Like I said earlier, my fingers and crossed that he leaves in the summer! If anyone is daft enough to take him!

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23 Apr 2018 11:08:26
I've always said Boyata is like the litte brother of Ambrose. His system goes into shock when he receives the ball in tight areas and I believe both rangers chances were players running off Boyata inside the box. It's no coincidence that whenever the other teams have a chance the camera always shows Boyata after it. He is shocking.

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23 Apr 2018 11:53:30
Couldn’t agree more mate! Did u see him late on in the 2nd half against Hibs when the boy ran at him and he literally just fell on his face! This isn’t me just picking a player out for dogs abuse for the sake of it by the way! This has been going on since he joined us! Remember at Hampden against the tribute act when Ronnie was still here, he had to be subbed because he was traumatised! Against that Shoite tae! It’s mistake after mistake with this guy and he needs to go! The scary thing about it is he thinks he’s a player! A Celtic team with boyata in it is a team that will always struggle when put under any sort of pressure, simple as that!

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23 Apr 2018 12:39:31
We need two CB’s and a right back who aren’t projects or just not good enough. When will the club see what everyone else can. We give teams a chance because our central defence is farcical too often.

I think Lustig has struggled as time catches up with him. So another RB is a must, I’m not at all convinced by young Ralston but he should get a chance in games to come on for whoever we get as first choice and if he’s as good as some on here think he will make it his own. We can’t just hope he will. We need a top right back first.

The absolute horsing’s in the CL and recent performance by our defence must show Brendan he needs to buy better.

Hendry is no better than what we already have and all of them are nowhere near what we actually need. That’s just a fact that is reinforced with every single game we play.

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24 Apr 2018 19:38:42
All the loaned out players except possibly Ralston, should be left out on loan or sold if anyone wants them .

I hope Brendan doesn't sign a black centre half or he will have no chance.

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Review Of The Day 22nd April 2018

22 Apr 2018 07:05:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd April 2018

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22 Apr 2018 22:16:11
once a bhoy you must be watching different games to the rest of us then. If a numpty like eboue is worth £2.5 million then what is mcginn worth? he is a fantastic player open your bloody eyes man.

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24 Apr 2018 19:43:08
McGinn will be a great footballer in some Celtic fans eyes, until he actually signs for Celtic and within 3 months the wonder will be why was he signed, he is no better than we have .
Players are great until we sign them and then they become a numpty.
I actually don't know what a numpty is but I presume it isn't in praise.

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22 Apr 2018 00:41:15
What's your thoughts on Brendan's interview and Desmond's comments with respect to Arsenal job Ed? ☘️.

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{Ed007's Note - Rodgers won't be getting the Arsenal job.}

22 Apr 2018 06:38:50
I think DD made the statement knowing fine well BR is happy where he is.

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22 Apr 2018 08:14:55
Let's not forget how the SPFL is viewed outside of Scotland.
BR is a great manager for us and still has a lot he can achieve here.
I think Arsenal will be looking for a successful European manger. (BR does not fit that bill and really has not done much in Europe)
Will BR leave? At some point I believe he will.

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22 Apr 2018 09:20:14
BR's situation will revolve around going for 10 i'm sure. If we seal 8 of course he would want to stay and be the man who got our 2nd 9 in a row. No chance he would leave if we have the opportunity of making history. After that who knows extending records might be a huge carrot to him. a lot can be said for being happy in your work and home life.

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22 Apr 2018 10:51:10
Its unbelievable the hysteria the media can create and the state people get themselves into reading these rags. Rodgers is going NOWHERE! Change the subject 😩.

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22 Apr 2018 11:01:04
Rogers Achilles heel is our Achilles heel. He can’t sort out a defence and we were humiliated in the CL because of it. He needs to show Arsenal, or any other “big ten” that he can remedy that. Another
shambolic defensive display yesterday shows he has still much to learn as his signing was abject yesterday.

If he took four windows and still hadn’t fixed the Arsenal defence, they had been hammered in the CL, how long do you think he would last? Not long.

I’m actually disappointed that he hasn’t killed the idea right now. He wants to go, let him go and get somebody in who knows what a defender looks like.

If he stays he needs to do it. Then compete in the CL, or at least avoid utter hammerings. He’s signed 17 players and only two played yesterday. That tells a story too that needs to change if we are to improve. Start with the defence please.

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22 Apr 2018 11:15:24
You can bet your mortgage money that Rogers was told the same thing ever player we sign gets told. Come here build up your reputation again and if the right offer comes along we won't stand in your way. We have worked this way for years.
Still don't think Brendan is ready to leave yet anyway though.

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22 Apr 2018 14:28:55
On CNN headline bar just there, Rogers rules himself out of Arsenal running.

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22 Apr 2018 17:54:40
Why in the name of God would an intelligent man like Brendan leave a big club like Celtic to risk his reputation in England . Making a move once, that doesn't work out
( B R to L'pool ) is lucky . Doing it twice I would thing down right stupid .
People thought they would follow Ferguson, wasn't a wise move for either of the three .

If and when Brendan leaves us, it will either be the fans giving him too much shoite or board quietly telling him, or else he will see a project at a rather lower level that he thinks has wonderful potential and he will believe he can build something.

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