Celtic Banter Archive April 22 2014

22 Apr 2014 20:55:58
Just heard a rumour from one of the Bairds mob who claims Lennon will not be here next season, that's why Johan is moving now as he will not be taking him.No mention of a club so he might be guessing but he has good previous for gossip.Seems things not too clever behind the scenes. ED.any input?

{Ed007's Note - Sounds about right GJ, there is at least one board member who is not happy with this season's overall performance and since the Morton defeat he has questioned NL's ability to move the team/club forward. The constant bad publicity surrounding the club is also causing concern behind the scenes.}

ED007: Just off to meet the mate who texted me the gossip going to fill me in he claims, don't know if that means the story or he's going to kill me! Jeeze we don't really need this upheaval with the CL qualifiers

{Ed007's Note - Just remember the old saying, 'If I tell you I'll need to kill you'.}

Gotta admire you GJ, risking getting whacked for some insider information!
Hurry back and let us know how you got on!

Hard to know who to replace Lennon if he's on the move, I'd say Roy Keane with Robbie Keane as his assistant just to provoke my oul sparring partner DN30.
On a more serious note, wonder could we intice the like of the Southampton manager up?

{Ed007's Note - As things stand just now Mauricio Pochettino is wanted by Spurs if they fail to entice Van Gaal to take over. The Argentinian had a meeting with a high-level Olympique Marseille executive last week (could have been the week before) who flew in with a firm offer for his services. Although OM's favoured choice is Marcelo Bielsa they are hedging their bets by keeping the interest in Pochettino alive. Whether Moyes exit from Man Utd will have any bearing on all this isn't yet clear.}

Ronald Koeman is leaving Feyenoord at the end of the season. I reckon he'll be linked with the Dutch national job though if LVG is off to Spurs or United. My first choice would've been Laudrup if it wasn't for the eye opener of a reply I got from Ed, really shocked at some of the stuff that seemed to be going on behind the scenes at Swansea!

A still have a stinking feeling it's going 2 be owen coyle who will replace lennon. Hope i'm wrong but ever since it came out that he had a clause in his wigan contract that if celtic wanted him then he would be allowed 2 talk 2 us iv feared that something must have been said that he could be in with a chance. Could be wrong tho

@ttts no, for once I actually agree with you with roy keane. On the basis he have served his apprenticeship with sunderland and ipswich and working as martin oneils number 2 at ireland

@hamiltonbhoy koeman would be ideal replacement. He has got the experience of managing at top flight and in european competitions.

23 Apr 2014 11:22:16
Much as I like Keane I don't think he's the answer. Koeman is a suggestion and 1/2 but would.someone.of that pedigree be.interested.
Certainly agree that Could would.be a working development if approached.
NL hasn't.gone.away yet thou. Until then I wouldn't mind giving him another year

I would like to see Steve Clarke as our next manger. Plenty of experience in EPL and CL football with Chelsea and I thought he over achieved at WBA

Keane's quite content with his ROI asst managers job + media work for ITV/RTE. Tbh, I don't think he would last long before he'd split the dressing room. His signings were never great for both clubs either, tends to signs all his wee buddies. Ex-Man Utd + Celtic pals such as Dwight Yorke, Liam Miller, Stan Varga, Ross Wallace and average Irish players like Stokes, Daryl Murphy, David Healy, etc!

I would break the bank for Roberts di mateo

Much as we would like an imaginative appointment like Koeman I could never see celtic pushing the boat out like that we are likely to end up with likes of coyle who would be no different to the mowbray and lennon appointment in lacking any real forward thinking
gally

22 Apr 2014 17:56:16
With the departure of Dolph the opportunity to freshen up the management side of things has arisen, maybe a more attacking minded person would help ahead of our previous defensive minded coaches?

Lennon to Norwich and Parker back to doing whatever he done before Celtic. Bring in someone ambitious like Michael Laudrup and Morten Wieghorst!

{Ed007's Note - You don't want Michael Laudrup HB. There were a lot of major problems behind the scenes at Swansea and most of them stemmed from Laudrup himself and some of his ideas and methods, he left them in a terrible mess. Laudrup was sacked after taking an unauthorised personal trip to France and giving players two days off after losing to West Ham, a game that the board felt was very important in the relegation battle. There was stories of players boozing on trips, he introduced a ruling that a maximum of 3 Spanish players could sit together at any table in the club canteen when they had lunch and on a training camp to Dubai the only rule set out to the players was the time they had to be on the bus to go to a 2 hour training session, the rest of the time they could do what they wanted, you can imagine what a crowd of wealthy footballers would get up to.
Oh and I almost forgot - he refused to take training if it was raining!}

22 Apr 2014 18:40:49
@TTTS yes I was thinking along same lines, even if Lennon stays, which is still not certain if Norwich come calling.
I would hope club would take opportunity to revamp coaching from top to bottom, including all the youth teams also.
This is a chance to refresh ideas as well as team with new players also, I think team has gone a little stale this season so hopefully new ideas will now permeate throughout whole club.

I've got a feeling Aston Villa will be calling. Don't expect Paul Lambert to be there next season .i think Villa would be more tempting to NL than Norwich .HH Vinciebhoy

I'm a Lennon fan but he doesn't come without his negitives, I'd say another year and at least Europa football after Christmas with a league and cup double .
Some fresh ideas, maybe a coach from an attacking mid field background .
The team have proven they can go out and play entertaining football but just not consistently .
Lennon's weaknesses need to be addressed, the correct coach might influence him and the team with new ideas and freshen up things .
Its an important position that need some thought by the powers that be and Lennon .

Then again is Dolphs leaving maybe an indication that the manager could be on the move also?

22 Apr 2014 18:54:04
ED007 you seem to have an insight into goings on within club, what are your thoughts on developments.
Was big Johan pushed or did he jump?
Will Lennon be next to go? (in your opinion)
If big changes are to be made I would welcome Steve Clarke in some roll at club, I would not be averse either to Malky Mackay 2 up and coming managers with fresh ideas.

{Ed007's Note - Mjallby's never made any secret that he wanted to become a manager himself, earlier this month he spoke about his ambitions to manage AIK or the Swedish national team, perhaps there is an going to be an opportunity coming up at AIK.
I've maintained since way back last year that I expect NL to leave this summer and nothing that's happened has made me change my mind, quite the opposite in fact. If NL gets an offer from the EPL or high end Championship team with money (Leeds??) he will be off.}

Have Leeds money?, thought Ridsdale and O Leary left them in a zombie like state and Bates has done a Green . Sleeping giant or put to sleep giant

{Ed007's Note - Leeds have just been taken over by Massimo Cellino whose net worth is estimated at upwards of £750 million.}

Glory day ahead again .

Away to polish my band wagon

{Ed007's Note - You're probably not alone there, all the new Liverpool fans will need to find another team after next season.}

Some of that stuff is unreal Ed, if that's the case then he can stay on the brew. My first choice would have to be Ronald Koeman then, but can't help feel he might take the Dutch job. Proven track record winning titles with Ajax, PSV, Valencia, etc. Bled through plenty youth players + worked with his hands tied behind his back at Feyenoord. Leaving at the end of the season, so no fee due to a club - which would suit the board down to a T.

22 Apr 2014 15:54:06
With all the focus on how good a manager/coach Lennon is, I thought I would turn attention on Stevie Frail/John Kennedy with the Under 20's, we have all read from other teams who have young players on loan that their fitness is suspect.
I have been at a few U20 games and was left disappointed.
Sadly I have come to conclusion that these guys do not cut it either as coaches.
We need better coaches and a fitness regime implemented right through all Celtic teams (that includes first team squad also) We need a coach who can instil a better work ethic allied to skill.

22 Apr 2014 12:27:56
With Moyes being sacked by Man Utd, does anyone think Lennon will be linked with job?

As i'm sure majority of you know, i'm not a fan of lennons managerial skills and stand by my opinion he is not good enough to be manager. However reason i'm asking opinions is bobby charlton suggested owen coyle to replace ferguson. Coyle is on a par with lennon in my opinion-hopeless. Surely he must be in with a shout on this basis

I am sure many posters won't agree with your less than endorsing opinion of Neil Lennon . Lennon has been a success with Celtic three in a row SPL titles, qualifying for last 16 in Champions League . If we compared that record to Owen Coyle, then surely Lennon is a real star.

Here we go again with 3 in a row chat. League is a walk in the park! Any manager of celtic WILL win league for many years to come. Last 16, wanyama carried us through. I like how you have conveniently omitted lennons domestic cup record from when he took over the reign

2010: SC SF
2011: SPL runners up, SC winners, LC runners up, CL 3rd Q Round, EL PO Round
2012: SPL winners, SC SF, LC runners up, EL group stage
2013: SPL winners, SC winners, LC SF, CL Last 16
2014: Scot Prem winners, LC 3rd Round, SC 4th Round, CL group stage

I just struggle to see how that can be deemed a success? Especially when RFC got a 10pt deduction in their final season then a Newco have been founded (leaving us with no title rivals) and started at the bottom of the Scottish pro football pyramid 2 seasons ago.

@DN30: I see where your coming from but hopeless is a bit harsh in my opinion. What I will say is he has not progressed as a coach as much as I thought he might.

@GJ surely you don't expect anything positive from DN30 lol.

@DN30 Manchester United manager loses his job and you use this opportunity to have yet ANOTHER go at Lennon.Question: what has this to do with Lennon? You really are showin your true colours.

Spot on Hammy, thanks for sharing your stats homework. I don't think Neil has been successful under the circumstances. If you ask me, he's had it very easy as manager with the downfall of Rangers. He was up against a hopeless manager in Mcoist and has had no real challenge since they went bust. His efforts in reaching the last 16 of the CL should always be applauded but we really need to ask ourselves if it was Neils coaching skills or just the sheer bloody determination of our team and our fantastic support that got us there. Let's not forget that the next Euro campaign very nearly never happened and was pretty diabolical.
I personally feel that we should now be rising to the guarantee we get CL football every year. This will only be achievable by investing money into the team and a change of manager.
Scotland is not going to bring any money into our club, we need to be in Europe.
Thanks for all your efforts Neil, but it's time for you to follow big Johan out the door.

@rayman whole point of my post was if coyle's name was suggested last time around by charlton, could lennons name be a possible contender this time?

And what if I did? Problem? Because I have plenty with regards to his managerial skills.

Yes I have shown my true colours to be consistent in what my opinion is.

@DN30 we all know your opinion on him, so why keep repeating yourself? 2 flies ran up my wall earlier are you going to blame NL for coaching the loser now and why the winner never won a cup lol.

@rayman because its relevant. If you don't like what I post, don't read it simple.

In what way is it relevant? Moyes sacked? relevance none. Charlton mentions coyle previously? relevance none. You have brought up Lennon jut to have another pop.Lennon on a par with Coyle is a nonsense you could name any manager on the planet and say the same "in my opinion they are on a par"Total and utter nonsense.

Do you not know what a question is? Read first line of thread I posted and GIRUY.

Whole thread was to do with asking peoples opinion IF they think lennon name will be suggested for job.

You are just acting like a spoilt little brat who has spat the dummy out because lennon is a dud and its going to be tata soon

You have just made a clown of yourself.

LOL I the clown? you wernt asking a question you were bein sarcastic to have a go at Lennon knowin full well he not getting the job or even remotely linked with it. As usual when your found out you reduce youself to name callin.

Aye whatever rayban.