Celtic Banter Archive November 21 2020

 

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21 Nov 2020 22:24:03
Not posted in a while lads and ladies. What do we all thing about Lenny now? Is there a suitable replacement at this time? I’m just scunnered if I’m being honest. I don’t know the answer, but with every week another player seems to be getting alienated by Lennon. Can talk about snowflakes all you want but in the modern game Lenny is not a modern manager.

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21 Nov 2020 23:07:07
It wasn’t long ago he was saying Gerrard was throwing his players under the bus and we don’t do that at Celtic, pressure is on him massively as he seems to do it all the time now though .
Playing devils advocate here, but do you think if we weren’t going for the ten would lennie already be gone? Changing a new manager now, possibly one who doesn’t know the league or players ( of us and opposition ) is a tough gig to make up the points while reinvigorating the team or carry on with the malaise we have been in all season .

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21 Nov 2020 23:21:08
My son was jumping about the living room when Laxalt scored our equaliser,
But all I was thinking was,
Is one point worth papering over the cracks?

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22 Nov 2020 10:22:26
Quinn we have the best squad by far. For whatever reason Lennon isn't getting the best from the players. I've no doubt a change in coaching team would be a positive thing and I'd be confident of us winning the league. Right now though we won't. It's as simple as that.
But it's down to PL and DD. Do they want to be remembered as the men who delivered the 10 or the men who lost it.

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22 Nov 2020 10:36:19
I completely agree with you HT, I said similar to my dad yesterday that we have the best squad by a mile. We have a team full of internationals, while Rangers have about 5, we should be walking all over them. I think lawell ( because he is always looking at the cheapest option) , the players ( as much as they don’t seem to want to play for lennie the mistakes they are making constantly are schoolboy at best Or the whole management team who seem to neither organise/ coach or have a plan in games and or training are all culpable this season. Usually in this situation the manager pays the cost but I don’t think lawell will change it unfortunately.

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22 Nov 2020 15:21:56
Said same to my nephew buzz nlc saved his job again resign before its to late hh.

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21 Nov 2020 22:08:23
It's now or never. 2 weeks until next league game. Won't have a better chance to break in a new manager than 2 EL and 1 LC game. 3 matches to sort out defence before St Johnstone at home. If they don't change manager now then they won't unless NL quits.

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22 Nov 2020 12:14:04
Totally agree with this post we won’t go to long without another defeat, so get new man in he has 2weeks to get his views over this team is embarrassing the fans .

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21 Nov 2020 21:51:57
i have never once called for lennon to go and to be given time but at the same time have said that i don't think anyone could argue if he went but after today I've made my mind up he has to go it just isn't working out. every fan knows what's wrong with the team there's to much to mention. he needs to go now.

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21 Nov 2020 21:19:40
Last season some would say 2 points dropped, this season 1 point gained. I know Hibs are a good side but we should be seeing them off with ease, something isn’t right whatever it is it needs to get sorted and fast.

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21 Nov 2020 20:37:55
We all know Brown is at the end, Lennon isn't cutting it and Lawwell and the board have been caught sleeping at the wheel. Here's another name that can be added to the list, Frimpong. The boy can't defend and has no end product in the final 3rd. It's high time he was dropped and El Hamed selected again.

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21 Nov 2020 21:24:39
Elhamed hasn’t suffered a domestic defeat in a Celtic jersey.

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21 Nov 2020 22:21:12
Elhamed should be RB and Frim RW. Likewise Taylor RB Laxiet RW. The aim is to stop conceding goals to build confidence.

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21 Nov 2020 22:44:25
I half expected Elhamed to start today. Frimpong has no end product and ca6nt defend and today was guilty of just cutting in and playing the negative pass sideways or backwards too many times we have no width which has been the case all season. Elhamed replaced Frimpong against Motherwell and set up Moi with a goal with his 1st ball into the box he's better going forward and defending than Frimpong.

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21 Nov 2020 22:56:30
Buzz; I am at the end of my tether with The Bhoys this season.
We had a party atmosphere opening day against Hamilton. but since the premature CL exit to Ferencvaros, we have suffered through utter mediocrity, with a few 'flattering to deceive' results but the bottom line is apart from the Aberdeen semi-final (which we rode our luck on the 2nd half) , we have failed at every difficult hurdle domestically and our EL campaign is in tatters. The alarm bells are ringing.

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21 Nov 2020 20:21:08
Turnbull tests positive.

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21 Nov 2020 21:00:45
Shame for the lad mally. Hope he gets better soon. But the lad have not been given a chance. Lennon doesn't use the lad.

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21 Nov 2020 19:52:36
I think the late Laxalt equaliser has ensured another Killie comeback moment for Lennon and saved his job.
The problem is that goal could be papering over the cracks.
One thing that's for sure is the league title is not over in November.
In the 4 fixtures Celtic have dropped points have all been difficult fixtures.
Killie, Hibs away and also Sevco at home are points we have dropped in recent seasons. Also a draw away to Aberdeen isn't a disaster.
Celtic now have an easier run of league fixtures until February with the exception of a trip to Ibrox, which now becomes a game we can't lose.
Celtic need to go back to a 3-5-2 when Jullian comes back from injury.
We can't continue to leave our lone striker isolated.
We've went to a back 4 for our last 3 league games and still lost 6 goals.
I'm open to a change of manager but it needs to be the right man.

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21 Nov 2020 20:15:01
Buzz I admire your optimism but we just aren't the same team we can't defend and don't create enough chances. rigic looked about 50 today ajeti needs a striker with him turnbull and soro need a chance and we need to stop rotating strikers as they live off goals. the rb area and the cb area needs strengthened with quality in Jan if we do we might come good if not imo we won't win the league not with the present set of players.

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21 Nov 2020 20:52:45
To be honest buzz we have struggled against nearly everyone in the league. Late winner against st Johnstone and Dundee Utd. We even struggled against st mirren away and livi at home for god sake. We are miles off it and l can't see how it's going to change anytime soon. It's terrible to say but we are miles off the team at the top. I hate saying it but every time we play l am hoping we win where as l don't see them losing.

The current management team have no idea and are all to blame. How players are still not fit is a joke and other players seem undroppable. That is solely down to the management team so they need to take the blame.

We have a team that is struggling to be fit in Nov, can't defend and keep a clean sheet, no idea what players to play or how to play and apparently players who don't want to be there. So it is any surprise we are where we are.



They have been backed in the transfer and keep all the players. They continue to play frimpong who l like but who is not a relation to a RB. The amount of goals we have conceded is just shocking and there is no end in sight of it stopping.

At this rate we should worry about finishing second unless action is taken.

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21 Nov 2020 21:14:30
Buzz mate you know i really admire you, but i need to disagree with you today. that was total rubbish today and truth be told it has been all season. we are struggling at every position in the team. they are in total disarray, not because they are bad players but because they do not know what lennon wants. i am really lost for words without losing it big time and getting barred from the site. LENNON if you love celtic as you claim, then walk away and don't be remembered for the manager that blew 10iar.

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21 Nov 2020 21:18:30
Spot on Mally.

Ajeti and Griffiths will always need another striker up top with them to get the best from them.

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21 Nov 2020 21:22:03
We need to kick on now, i can't see Rangers dropping points looking at the fixtures until they next play us. We need to win every game till we play them, beat them at Ibrox and then Sevconians next 2 games are aberdeen and motherwell away hopefully they will hit a bad patch then and we recover the difference.

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21 Nov 2020 21:42:28
Rob
I’m not giving up on the league with 25 games to go.
I agree with what your saying.
Celtic have been poor all season and I’m open to a change of manager.
My first choice would be Eddie Howe.
I also think we have the players but it’s just not happening with the manager.
If Lenny is still the manager,
I would prefer a formation change to 3-5-2 or 4-4-2.
Rob I also think now is a good time to change the manager.

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21 Nov 2020 22:16:20
i am an agent of a manager i heard you are looking for a new one my ciient has a great c/ v as a player won a lot of medals too few to mention. as a manager he about four league titles a few cups just now he is going for four in four he was the one who started a record ten. just know his team are only second top of their league with a chance of winning it but the fan want him out. so i say if you can find one with a better c/ v take him on i bet you do'nt stick with what you have got because right now you wont.

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21 Nov 2020 22:47:57
This season is probably the worst football to watch since Mowbray. Deila took pelters week in week out but even his style was more enjoyable than this and the players was much fitter and organized yet Sutton says nothing untoward his pal Lennon.

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22 Nov 2020 00:18:11
Is that you Neil?

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21 Nov 2020 19:46:36
Anybody heard of any decent managers that are available?

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21 Nov 2020 20:01:32
The rumour is that Roy Keane is a front runner.

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21 Nov 2020 20:15:48
When you say available I hope you don't just mean out of a job. We're Celtic Football Club and should be more than capable of approaching plenty of clubs and taking their manager. No haggling or messing about, just pay them what they want and get a tactically competent body in the dugout.

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21 Nov 2020 20:30:38
Spot on Kev. Lennon is not and never was the answer. Neither is Keane.

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21 Nov 2020 20:39:01
New poster. Currently out of work . Eddie Howe, Marco Silva, Quique Sánchez Flores.
I wouldn’t bank on the following employed managers being approached but you could look at Chris Wilder and/ or Sean Dyche. Also Roberto Martinez (and Maloney) might be of interest?
Another who is out of work currently is Nigel Pearson. These guys wouldn’t be everyone’s choice but they’d bring professionalism. All of these guys took teams to the top of the Championship and then kept them in the EPL. I’d bet there’s 25+ decent candidates out there and you wouldn’t even need to mention Strachan, McCarthy or Keane.

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21 Nov 2020 21:28:03
Looking ahead we need to do what we did with Rogers and pay the premium for a top class manager. Most of the guys that are out of work are there for a reason.

Identify the best candidate for the job and pay what it takes to get him.

I'd still go for Rafa Benitez. If he took over tomorrow there would be an instant buzz around the place. Even if he didn't win the league I think fans would stick with him and give him time to rebuild which will be massive in the summer.

Every other candidate isn't fancied by a lot of fans Moyes, Keane Strachan, Howe etc. I think the vast majority would be happy with Rafa.

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21 Nov 2020 22:52:28
Roy Keane is to management as Shane Duffy is to being the centre half we need.

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21 Nov 2020 23:12:08
Rafa will be on incredible money in China, no chance.

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21 Nov 2020 23:38:25
Del

Rafa said he was interested after BR left and the board didn't even get in touch with him to discuss the job.
He is now earning £12m a year managing in China, there is no way he would leave that to come here, we probably could even afford the compensation it would take to get him anyway.

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21 Nov 2020 19:08:51
How much longer are these results going to be allowed to continue? I've a few things that bother me, firstly ( and I'm not just talking about today's result or performance) , why did we sign barkas? A £5 million keeper to play second fiddle to barkas? That's absurd. Next why did lennon feel the need to bring in a sports physiologist to a team of serial winners? Would it not suit him better to bring in a quality defensive coach to teach the basics of defending given the absolute dross goals we're giving away He sticks with ajeti as a lone striker, he's never a loan striker. Signings? Serious serious questions need asked and answered on our signings the past two years.

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21 Nov 2020 19:32:40
There's a lot of questions that need to be answered Garryc1977. Keeping the status quo, for me, is lunacy.

I'm not sure if list of available manager's exists, but if it does, I'd be shocked if the bhoys on here couldn't pick at least one option we think would get far more from this squad of players.

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21 Nov 2020 19:33:21
Totally agree, on bench Barkas, Taylor, Klimala, Duffy (rightly) Turnbull would have been, Soro not even on bench. Signings of late have been shambolic. Despite JF spliting support we clearly miss him, a natural outlet on wing. Wee Frim is neither a RB or winger.

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21 Nov 2020 21:54:53
Totally Chink Frimpong is mince.

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21 Nov 2020 18:43:38
* Lennon and coaching staff needs to be replaced now to stop the bleeding
* Brown needs to be used sparingly
* Certain players need to be dropped
* Defence needs sorted to stop leaking cheap goals
* IMO an experienced manager should be brought in now until the end of the season to try and turn this season around. Regardless a new manager/ direction is required from next season onwards.

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21 Nov 2020 19:25:10
We are in the middle of a C.V., football everywhere is, or soon will be in financial trouble, now is not the time to bring in a new manager and coaching staff.
All things in the garden and on the horizon, will be rosy if Lenny plays 442,today he could have picked:

Barkas,
Elhamed, Ajer, Bitton, Laxalt
Frimpong, McGregor, Ntcham, Christie
Griffiths Edouard.

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21 Nov 2020 19:29:27
Hindsight is brilliant Aindoh but the problem is the players don't know what they're supposed to be doing and the constant changing doesn't help.

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21 Nov 2020 19:45:18
I'll have some of what you're drinking Aindoh. Seriously though, do you think NL can turn this around?

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21 Nov 2020 20:12:17
Aindoh what planet are you on? Lennon must go now.

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21 Nov 2020 20:16:13
The chances of NL turning it are around are, in my opinion, greater than the chances of a new manager and new backroom staff coming in and turning it around, both options are a gamble.

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21 Nov 2020 20:21:05
Aindoh with more pish! Pops on and talks utter rubbish, gets shot down in flames then not heard of until the next bout of pish! Everything in the garden will be rosey if we go to 442! Am convinced your a sevconian by the way! Mite not agree with some things people say on here sometimes but no Celtic man can be as deluded as u clearly are!

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21 Nov 2020 22:58:06
4-4-2 isn't the answer the 2 we play in middle currently struggle to boss the midfield we are too soft and the organisation of the team is all over the place too many times today Hibs practically walked through the middle of the park unchallenged or a couple of touches took them out the game (2nd goal) there's barely any press at all these days which was always the hallmark to our success as we fought to get the ball back right away. There's no urgency to our play even at 2-0 down to try get back into the game until we got that penalty. And the team lack width. Even when the ball is wide ready to be loaded in to the box and no one is even making runs all just stood pedestrian out side the area.

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21 Nov 2020 23:06:21
Danny14,so tell me what's wrong with 442?or the way I would have it is
4 1 3 2
With McGregor being the one, and maybe I would replace Frimpong out of the three and replace him with Rogic
And who ever said use Brown sparingly, and I ask why?, just sit him on the bench, give Soro a chance, Brown brings nothing to the team now, his time has been, it's hard to take when age catches up with you, but he is not in a pencil pushing job, he is in a physicaly demanding position and he just has to accept it, that he is not upto it any more, he has been a great club servant, and I was his biggest fan when we signed him from Hibs, when others doubted him, but he should be the non playing captain now.

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21 Nov 2020 23:57:52
Danny14,so if I am wrong and everyone else is right, why are we doing so badly?

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22 Nov 2020 10:47:46
Im not even going to even try and explain why changing a formation is the least of our problem! 442 352 433 4231 all don’t mean a thing if your players aren’t playing for you! Lennon is done and no amount of formation changes will change that. but according to u 442 will make everything rosey again! Pish!

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21 Nov 2020 18:43:14
Ed007 and fellow fans. Looking for a yes or no answer.

Do you think we will win the league?

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21 Nov 2020 19:02:12
Del Bhoy, I believe if NL stays we've thrown away the 10 BUT If we bring in an experienced head coach (I don't know who) and give him the backing in the January window we can still turn this around. HH.

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21 Nov 2020 19:03:33
Not at the moment no. All depends on if Lennon stays. If he does then no we won't win the league. If we bring someone else in, yes we will. We have the best squad.

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21 Nov 2020 19:12:41
Dont post often lads but if u look bavk on all my posts I havd been saying it for about 6 weeks now Lennon must go. His pist match press conference is evidence that he does not know how to fix this.

LENNON OUT.

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21 Nov 2020 19:21:55
I have said it for a year and a half Lenny is not the man for the job never has been before the start of the season I said we will not get 10iar with him as manager I sincerely wish I was wrong but it was clear then and it's clear now GET HIM AND THE BACK ROOM out now before we can't rectify this.

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21 Nov 2020 19:22:48
Lennylad
I have been saying since Lennon came back that he would stop us winning the 10.
When I said it right at the start I was laughed at and called a Sevco supporter, he was never the made to get us there.
He Was a cheap option and he has no clue on how to man manage players.

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21 Nov 2020 20:16:24
Totally agree Jonbhoy most supporters on here have blinkers on please wake up bhoys brfore its too late.

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21 Nov 2020 20:24:13
Lennon will not win us the league! And more damage will be done over the next month or so when they do what we all know they will and keep him on! We’ll go into the next Glasgow derby trailing them by double digits in points and goal difference! We are soft as rubbish and every team who plays us knows it!

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21 Nov 2020 20:59:51
Agreed Dannyh14. 'Powderpuff' as my father-in-law used to say.

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21 Nov 2020 21:42:54
no chance we are winning this league.

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21 Nov 2020 22:08:22
we will not win the league.

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21 Nov 2020 23:01:02
Lennon wasn't even good enough for Hibs! Yet here we are with him! In our most important season of the last decade and he's doing exactly what most of the fans expected of him when he was appointed. failing.

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22 Nov 2020 00:11:47
I would put money in us not winning the league this season. We are shambolic and need the back room changed if we are to have much chance next yr. I never thought losing Duff as coach would be so bad but Strachan obviously isn't working.

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21 Nov 2020 18:17:50
Guys I couldn't agree anymore with most on here and its time for Lennon to go but does anyone trust lawell to get the right man in the job? I don't think so I think its time for a director of football to come in and leave lawell to the financial side of things . Its time for a complete change in direction at the club standards have dropped from top to bottom at the club and its not good enough . Go get the best director of football we can get and a young forward thinking young Manager/ Head coach with an emphasis on youth I am sick and tired of buying guys like klimala bayo the list goes on and instead give youth a chance they can't be any worse than these guys . It can't be a coincidence we have lost so many prospects lately. SORRY FOR THE RANT GUYS BUT SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

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21 Nov 2020 18:45:35
Mick87, i don't think we can trust lawell to get the right man for celtic. He will get the right man for himself, as he will be able to manipulate his chosen one. We need to rid celtic of lennon, lawell, kennedy, strachan and hammond. Come on dermot, pull your finger out, get this sorted. Rangers are guff, but just now we are much much worse.

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21 Nov 2020 18:46:38
Mick it's broke. To fix it we need NL and staff to GTF. Some player's downed tools long ago, this is p$sh, in this of all seasons!

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21 Nov 2020 18:57:21
The wishful thinking has to end, we have no resilient shape or structure of play.

Lennon who I like as a person, seems under pressure ( playing the blame game) , out of shape ( no example to the squad) , and out of ideas ( no coherent strategy to control play) .


We do have the best resources, but have made some shocking signing decisions and that alone means he must go.

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21 Nov 2020 21:17:26
DD should sell his shares and go with the rest of them, he has 34% of the shares but acts like he owns the club. Tell me what other shareholder in Britain acts like DD, he makes far too many direct football decisions with his only qualification being that he's rric. As for Lenny he's simply acting to type, check his past two jobs, he goes in initially does good but second season everything falls apart with the same accusations from players regards coaching fitness etc one player called his managerial style as being from the 1980's.

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21 Nov 2020 17:32:22
Been thinking (and hoping) week-by-week, since the Ferencvaros shocker, that things will improve and players will reproduce their best form and - on we go!
So here we are; It's nearly December and am still waiting.
OK we've had CV issues and consequences, injuries, most of the squad plucked away on several International interruptions and well documented player unrest?
However, we can balance some of that up, with having the most resources, biggest budget, best facilities, largest and most expensive squad and all the experience that comes with nearly ten years of dominant success;
but honestly; I am really starting to have serious doubt, that this manager or current crop of players are up for the challenges ahead?

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21 Nov 2020 17:50:43
Celtic supporters of a certain vintage are used to making excuses based on the team the Manager the board the weather the referees the SFA and now the farcical end of World virus.
Perhaps it has been ingrained that dissent of any kind is un Celtic in some way I don't know but what I do know is that I was here the first time we had 10 in a row in our grasp and I remember well the total capitulation of a team 10 times better than the one we have now.
Mark my words, the League may well already be done but the only hope Celtic have this season is if Neil Lennon is not Celtic manager next week.

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21 Nov 2020 17:50:55
Nothing will change with Lennon as boss, we won’t catch Sevco now - it would be a surprise if we beat them once but now we must win all 3 as far as I’m concerned and Gerrard has Lennon’s number

Supposed to be our biggest season and it’s nothing but shambolic.

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21 Nov 2020 17:52:27
The only way we have a chance of turning this around is a new manager and coaching team. Has to happen immediately.

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21 Nov 2020 17:57:50
Agree with all above posts. When NL publicly hangs his captain out to dry (rightly or wrongly) u know his time is well and truly up. After Sevco shambles he should have been out. Too late now, no chance of making up that gap with this team.

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21 Nov 2020 18:01:43
Lennon should have been gone weeks ago! Take your pick after what pathetic performance or result! Ferencvaros at home sevco at home Sparta Prague at home! Zero shots on goal in a derby,4 goals going on 8 against Sparta reserves! This will continue to get worse lads, make no mistake about that! We’ve made a rite can't of this season and it’s time for change now! Bring a new man in and give him time to have a good look at things going into next season!

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21 Nov 2020 20:14:54
the fans on here are all in a panic that is why they all say sack lennon if we do who comes in think about it if the one they want is aready out of a job he can not be any better than lennon and if he is in a job and doing well he will not want to come to celtic and anybody whose team are doing badly who will want them. it is along way to go get behind the team like real celtic fan the last thing is to change horses in midstream it is not even mid season we will come good hh.

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21 Nov 2020 17:23:07
My friends Enrico likes to stay positive but after the result today he finds it very hard.

Although hibs goalie had very good game the bhoys should still manage to find a way past him.

How many more point will be lost.

Griff should be starting.

This is not looking too good you know?

Enrico ponders what will happen next.

🍷 few grape juices will be enjoyed this night.

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21 Nov 2020 17:28:23
Party's over Enrico, the 10 is no more I fear. Big signings failed and last year FF saved us more than we thought at the time.

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21 Nov 2020 17:38:05
Chinks my friend I fear you may be right.

Enrico hopes not though.

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21 Nov 2020 10:49:09
Cmon the hoops hard shift today we need to win every ball every second ball don't give em a chance to breath. time for the players to earn a bit of praise know its going to be tough but get in about them hh🍀🍀🍀.

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21 Nov 2020 14:20:30
It’s time to start going through the gears.
Celtic should win if we stop inviting pressure on ourselves by constantly giving away set pieces.

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21 Nov 2020 15:23:06
It's been so long since I enjoyed watching us play a full 90 minutes of the type of football we enjoyed last season; it's well overdue!

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21 Nov 2020 09:23:55
Ajer missing today is a major worry he's been our best defender for most of season. it looks like Duffy and bitton that's me got the fear.

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21 Nov 2020 09:48:21
Never rains but it pours for us this season so far with injuries and absences and these feckin International interruptions have contributed enormously to our problems so far. The defense has been leaking goals for weeks so all we can hope is the creative and attacking players help us to score more than we concede.
It will be a hard game whoever we send out, but the players know what's required and what's at stake.

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21 Nov 2020 10:52:43
have i missed something guys i thought he was fit?

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21 Nov 2020 11:15:30
It’s Jullian that won’t be fit until next week.
I think Lennon caused the mixup with their Twitter accounts having similar names,
When he gave an injury update yesterday.
I’m sure Ajer is fit and ready to go.

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21 Nov 2020 12:41:46
If Duffy plays today, goodbye Lennon. We will almost certainly drop points if Duffy is playing and if Lennon does lose job, he will have nobody to blame but himself.

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21 Nov 2020 13:10:04
Ajer is fit.

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21 Nov 2020 13:41:16
Well he said he wasn't?

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21 Nov 2020 14:21:49
Thank god Duffy is not playing. Honestly fear the worst anytime he is creeping about.

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21 Nov 2020 14:36:49
Mally
Your right it was mentioned but it was Lennon that caused the mixup. 👍.

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21 Nov 2020 16:27:34
Don’t need Duffy to play to drop points
What a pile of pish this is clearly the players have stopped playing for the manager it’s a joke this season so far
. im trying to keep the faith but I can’t see the dark side
Drop many points 😡😡😡😡😡.

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21 Nov 2020 16:28:36
Will there be any way back for Lennon if this result stays the same?

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21 Nov 2020 16:44:02
Definitely not. We needed 3 points anything other than that, he has to go.

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21 Nov 2020 07:39:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st November 2020

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