21 Dec 2018 17:56:54
Hearts and aberdeen have said they are willing to help fund VAR for the league. How would everyone feel if celtic said the same?
21 Dec 2018 19:25:56
It still wouldn't work as whoever monitors the screens would be accused of Celtic or Rangers leanings. Every VAR decision against them would be cause for A Statement!
21 Dec 2018 19:34:27
Reply to Cory 67 personally if I won the lottery I'd pay for it tomorrow myself yes we know it's not foolproof but I'll tell you this, over a season we would Definitely benefit from it, and every Tim knows it would. BRING IT ON.
21 Dec 2018 21:21:43
I think we should too. It will prevent a lot (Not all) mistakes by refs. There will always be fans screaming bias, and there will always be mistakes but this cut out the most obvious ones. There needs to be a clear review process along with it when there disagreement. But for me it would be a step in the right direction.
21 Dec 2018 22:20:22
Do you not still require the ref to call for var to get involved during the game?
{Ed007's Note - And who makes the decisions, ex-refs, current officials etc We can all argue whether if it's a penalty after watching endless replays so at the end of the day it still comes down to the exact same officials' decisions. Would you trust Hugh Dallas Snr to run the VAR department? Bobby Maden on VAR duties at a TRIFC game with Baby Dallas on the pitch reffing the match?
If the Bundesliga need to sack their head of VAR for all sorts of shady stuff going on what chance has Scotland got of getting it right, it also opens up LOADS more avenues for match-fixing etc for gambling.}
21 Dec 2018 22:33:35
I would only trust it if oab was in charge 😂.
{Ed007's Note - Him and Tam Boyd 😂😂😂
22 Dec 2018 01:29:32
It’s one thing to describe a bad call as an ‘honest mistake’ when a referee has to make a split second decision but it would be difficult to justify it after a panel of ‘neutrals’ had looked at it in slow motion several times and still got it wrong. I say bring it on!
{Ed001's Note - you might want to go look at what has happened in Italy and Germany then. It is just as easy then, because the officials can use numerous get out calls, such as it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake so they just won't even look at it or say they haven't looked at it.}
22 Dec 2018 09:16:36
Hi Welshy; V A R stands for Vilify All Referees - (in Scotland) lol Catch up with you all on the 'live chat' later.
22 Dec 2018 09:51:09
Haha joke of the year goes to pud! Rangers or celtic leanings haha.
22 Dec 2018 10:38:21
I think he’s only calling it The the rest of the teams see it.
22 Dec 2018 11:39:55
If it's var the ones making the calls couldn't make wrong ones because it's not a split second decision and would be sacked if they did. its a yes from me.
22 Dec 2018 00:12:35
ok Ed, I guess you are not for then?
I would be ok if the paying customer (crowd) saw the same clip as ref at same time while HE explained his decision.
{Ed007's Note - I just think it's pointless as it's the same people still making the decisions, watching it again only backs up their initial decision as well. Would football fans accept a VAR decision as final if they still thought it was wrong?
The ref explaining things to the crowd's never going to happen.}
22 Dec 2018 16:23:48
Here's the thing. VAR is coming. We all know it it, so we as a club better be at the front battling to make sure it's fine right.
23 Dec 2018 03:05:01
Ed, how would the panel explain the Morelos goal at Tymecastle? If nothing else, it would sort out the erroneous offside decisions and we wouldn’t have to hope that they might even themselves out over the course of the season.
{Ed007's Note - They wouldn't need to explain anything because that's not what VAR is for. It would only cut out offside decisions if a) the ref called for a VAR review and b) the ref overrules the linesman's decision (what would that do with moral between our officials). Can you see many Scottish refs watching a VAR review and then holding their hands up and saying they got the initial call wrong?
What if the ref looked at VAR and decided Morelos goals stood, would you accept that it was onside then - after all the super dooper VAR confirmed it to the ref? What people don't seem to grasp is that it's still a human decision, it's still the same people making the decisions except now that will be able to say that he did review a decision and VAR actually strengthens the ref's case for making the initial decision.}
23 Dec 2018 11:29:35
I get that it still comes down to the decision of a person but I think when it is blatantly obvious, as in the Morelos goal, it would be difficult for that person to justify. I’d like to think that it might develop in a similar way as tennis has developed to allow each player a pre-determined number of challenges which would take out the dependence on the referee calling it into play.
{Ed033's Note - Maybe you're one of the Anonymous ones.