Celtic Banter Archive April 21 2019

21 Apr 2019 22:59:32
I hope whoever is in charge next season can sort out our set plays i know I'm a broken record and I've said this many times before but every game I'm reminded of just how incapable we are delivering a decent corner or free kick and nobody ever seems to attack the ball in fact we have no movement at all at times it really is embarrassing at times.

21 Apr 2019 23:50:15
I mentioned last week I liked Wolves first goal in the semi final, short corner then an in swinging cross to the back post and an easy knock in. They made it look so easy but it was evective.
Roll on a week and then sevco scored a similar goal from a corner and they have been struggling to score from corners all season, the same as us.
We need to practice something different because we don't have anyone who is a big threat at corners. Watch Hearts at corners, they are a handful and we need to maybe copy some of their movements off the ball, to make us a bigger threat.

22 Apr 2019 13:06:42
I agree that we bed to practice and vary our corner kick routines but I can't for the life of me see the benefit in practicing Hearts routines . These routines are defended all week every week by Hearts as they practice them, so we would be playing right into the Hearts defenders hands if we used their routines, in the cup final our most important game left.

22 Apr 2019 13:58:39
Look at it another way maybe we should look at hearts even closer if we have to defend those tricky set pieces in our most important game of the season.

23 Apr 2019 13:29:18
The concession of goals haven't been near the problem this season as our lack of goal scoring . Brendan seem to become more and more interest in ball retention in the SPL and les on creating opportunities to score . This means our goals against column is very good but unless opponents defences slip up and make mistakes, we have to rely on individual brilliance to get scores.

21 Apr 2019 20:19:09

For me the jury is back. (although personally I was never in favour} Thank you NL for stepping in at this time. But going forward a new manager is needed. A Celtic manager sitting with his head in his hands, on several occasions, instead of being out there doing his job encouraging and cajoling the players is not acceptable. Granted the players must accept a big part of the responsibility but a manager/ coach is paid to do that. A Celtic man absolutely. The next permanent manager absolutely not.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

21 Apr 2019 17:47:30
Can anyone actually give a good football reason why Lennon should get the job?

I keep the Celtic man nonsense out it.

21 Apr 2019 18:14:26
He's not had a single transfer window.

21 Apr 2019 18:28:31
We have money to spend and I believe Neil Lennon is the best man to spend that money in the next transfer market.
The team Lenny took over from Mowbray had at least 10 loan players in it, so he had to practically build a new team. I was impressed with his signings because they were young and hungry for success.
A couple of years later he had this group of 25 year olds who would run all day and go on to be successful under his leadership.
He has proven he has an eye for a player better than Brendan ever had and I believe he will bring in 6 top signings which will blow away our rivals next season and also a change of formation with his preferred 2 up front.
He is stabilising this group of players which is the best thing to do at present to get us the treble treble, then next season he will stamp his own ideas on the squad, starting with his change of formation.

21 Apr 2019 18:54:02
Not sure how i feel about it at the moment. I'd have rather he came in and stamped his style on the team immedietly, we are scraping together points by playing the Brendan way, it was hardly attractive to watch anyway. If Lenny doesn't get the job does he then sit all summer thinking hmmm maybe i should have went with my prefered formation/ tactics etc etc. Its actually a really difficult time to judge him. Obviously if he gets the job he will have my full backing. Maybe once we win the title we will see him tinker with the team a bit for the remainig games. Summer can't come quick enough to be honest be glad to just get this one out of the way and start making decisions for next season regardless of who is in charge. Big big summer ahead.

21 Apr 2019 18:57:55
Simple . There isn’t one

It’s a major step backwards if we give him the role, problem is other than Rafa Benitez now I can’t see any other option where we won’t have to be paying compensation to get a good proper manager in

Interesting summer ahead and if we falter again with signings there will be severe discontent.

21 Apr 2019 19:20:35
Only reason Rodgers was here was the Celtic connection. Anyone who thinks a highly rated or even up and coming manager for example rose rumours would touch our job you are deluded.

21 Apr 2019 20:13:52
I’m hopeful Neil Francis Lennon will be appointed permanent Celtic manager and I believe he will be a success and lead us to 10-in-a-row.

21 Apr 2019 20:29:40
The problem l have is for me the pace of play is so slow now it's unbelievable. Plus which may be a cause of this is some of the players selected like to both nitcham and Izzy are shocking again. Whatever has happened to nitcham l will never know. It's hard to believe the full backs are the same two we had in 2011. We need a result against kille or people will be asking are Celtic going to blow it.

21 Apr 2019 22:44:38
What has him not having a transfer window got to do with assessing his capabilities to manage our club?

Rodgers was here because we were paying him 2.5 million a year and he was out of work.

Leon plenty of Lennons signings failed. Was probably around 50/ 50.

Still not one concrete answer on how he will do any better than he did last time.

Remember he couldn't win a treble in the easiest Scottish football league in history.

His cup record was shocking.
Failed at Bolton
Wouldn't call hibs a success either.
This time round he's not playing his best players and subs are either to late or just bizarre

Still a no from me I am afraid and that's not knee jerk because I've been saying that since he was brought in.

21 Apr 2019 23:06:53
Stein couldn't have got Bolton out the mire so we'll leave that there. as far as subs go he put rogic on with about 30 mins still to play he then put pele on and weah my god the finishing wass awful us that lennys fault.

21 Apr 2019 23:18:19
As others have said, this is a massive summer job for someone . I can’t see us getting Rafa in all honesty and the other names are hardly inspiring . I personally don’t think Lennie could bring us any further forward, even though I appreciate he took us over at short notice . If it’s not Lennie, someone has to come in and find out he’s probably lost 5/ 6 players from either loan or contract running out and very short time to turn around. Rogers left is in the lurch when you think of our situation . If he had hung on until the end of the season, like someone else mentioned how many of us would have said “
Let’s go and get Lennie for the job.
Not many I would think and that should resonate with a few of us, we need to push onto 9 and have a push at getting through to the champions league group to bring in some more revenue.

21 Apr 2019 23:34:40
Lenny dosent need to do a better job than last time, just a similar one.
This treble treble will never be repeated, its our glory years.
I will admit we won't win the treble under Lenny because he plays too many weakened teams in the cup games but he will deliver 10 in a row.
Forget trebles after this year, the main objective is winning the titles.
Kev, your pal Rafa wouldn't have saved Bolton from relegation that year under those circumstances.
He does need to give Weah more game time. He did say he wasnt good at training but as long as he produces in the games played.

21 Apr 2019 23:47:05
A manager not having a transfer window isn't an issue? What planet you on?

Also better than last time? He got further in Europe with Celtic than Rodgers could with both Celtic Liverpool combined.

So how come u were happy with Rodgers? Who was a shambles in Europe.

22 Apr 2019 01:33:32
I don't know why we are all arguing over this topic. There's no way Lawwell will take chance of fans revolting against board by appointing Lennon. Will be a manager who is tactically aware that rules Lennon out.

22 Apr 2019 02:31:09
Aye a shambles in Europe but delivered an invincible season and a double treble. Would take domestic success over getting one round further in Europe every time.

22 Apr 2019 06:49:54
I disagree philtim88. I think the board WILL appoint Lennon as our next permanent manager because it's the cheap and easiest option. I hope I'm wrong but I also don't know what the other realistic options are.

22 Apr 2019 09:18:19
Well if Lennon is appointed kiss good by to 10iar let’s get real the team is crap I hate watching them since Lennon took over and it’s not all down to the players, the players have done a good job over the last few years with Rodgers yes we definitely need freshened up as it’s gone stale big time, I was looking at line up in 2015 against Ajax 2 players Armstrong and Mackay Stevens the rest are the same what does that tell you zero progression in 4 years, I hate to say it but that lot are playing far better football than us and they will push closer again next year if we don't pull the finger out and invest some cash it’s unreal we have money so I’m expecting some quality taken in during the summer and it has to be a quality manager that likes to play fast attacking football too Lennon is useless that zombie lot are praying that Lennon stays what does that tell you this next few months are going to be huge for celtic and I hope they get it right.

22 Apr 2019 09:35:40
Bigbubs, that's ridiculous tbh. One round further in Europe can make us 10 times more money than winning 10 domestic cups

Which secure our future and give us a chance to grow in quality.

Brendan Rodgers got like 83 PTS last season. To put that into perspective Deila earned 93 PTS in his last season.

In 90% of competitive Scottish seasons we would have lost the league.

22 Apr 2019 15:19:07
Don't care about money I care about trophies and Lennons record in them was not good.
He would have to be better because the bar has been raised.

21 Apr 2019 16:49:25
As far as i am aware, NL is sticking with players he knows and not playing players he thinks will go. Sinclair has a year left on his contract and Hayes and Lustig's end in June. Does he want them to get new contracts? We can buy the German as a Lustig replacement, so we should play him. Hayes was pretty poor today and Ncham (spelling) was woeful.

21 Apr 2019 21:55:37
I would build a squad around these 10 players, loan out some youngsters and listen to offers for the rest.
Bain and Gordon
Ajar and KT
Brown, McGregor, Christie, Rogic, Forrest
Edouard
Major rebuilding for next season.
Thank you to the majority of the squad for their great service to Celtic but its time to freshen up for these next 2 years and beyond.
Lenny done a good job before, under similar rebuilding circumstances.

{Ed007's Note - Seriously, Leon how can you build anything around Rogic? Considering most teams have a 23-25 man squad we would be looking to bring a minimum of 13 players, no Leigh Griffiths, Simunovic, Shved or even Hayes and Sinclair? What's the point of our academy if we aren't going to promote players like Dembele, Ralston or Armstrong Okoflex?
And Lenny didn't do any rebuilding, that was John Park and Lawwell.}

22 Apr 2019 00:47:00
I am looking at the players we have available and the ones I mentioned are which I would call Celtic class, our best players, which is why I would build a squad around them. Yes the youngsters are work in progress like any club, some will get loaned out and some will get game time in the reserves.

The reason I want Lennon is because we are going to be busy in the next couple of transfer windows and Lennon will have a say like he did in 2010,I don't think guys like Mulgrew were Park ot Lawwells idea. He was Lennys first signing which he was getting pelters for but in the end Lenny was right to bring Charlie back to the club.
We need to make way for new players due to the high wages these players are on and with most being full Internationalists and other players like Ntcham and Sinclair.
I would also keep Jozo and Leigh for cover and Shved looks a great player.

21 Apr 2019 16:22:15
Missing Griffith goals big time. He's the difference in these bread and butter matches more 5imrs than not .

21 Apr 2019 16:41:44
It's been like that virtually all season and it's amazing we are where we are without a recognized striker/ poacher in the team.
No other team in the UK have had to adapt to this handicap and lessons have to be learned about quality cover for EVERY position.
Eddy, Sinky and JF have all mucked in with their fair share, but if we had, had Griff or any other decent penalty-box finisher, or indeed a decent header of the ball, our goals tally would be much healthier.

21 Apr 2019 17:39:47
If we had a decent header of the ball then we would still need a decent crosser of the ball. Our crosses wether it be from open play or corners are absolutely awful.

21 Apr 2019 17:51:43
Oab I've said it loads of time we need a Hooper or Scott McDonald type. A poacher.
That's something we don't have at park head. Even the griff likes to drift out the box
The amount of times the ball goes through the six yard box with no one near it is ridicules.

21 Apr 2019 18:14:11
Chuck benkovic up top like we did at the end against Salzburg. Occupy the centre Half's and actually challenge for the crosses. We're more likely to score on the break from an opposition corner than one of our own.

21 Apr 2019 14:35:43
We do not look like a team on verge of making history. . Very poor. Lennon is still failing to address our lack of goals it's shocking. BR before deserting us sorted this by drafting in Weàh and Burke yet he refuses to play them. This arrogance is why he cannot be manager going forward. Dissapointing playing like that we will struggle to get over the line. We will win the league but not in style.

21 Apr 2019 14:46:21
We haven't beat Hibs at Easter road in years.

Not to mention the squad wes truggle to beat is actually lennons squad.

Also he's not playing players as the league is won and they guys will not be here next year.

So it's not beneficial to use them.

Didn't see the outrage towards Rodgers when he couldn't beat Hibs. Double standards and over exaggeration.

21 Apr 2019 14:47:05
Burke has the first touch of an elephant. Bags of pace but little skill. Would 100% rather have Edouard than him up front. Problem is the style we are playing now. Lennon has us going up the wing whipping balls in with only one striker in the box. Needs to play 2 up front.

21 Apr 2019 14:57:40
We bet them last month in scottish cup at Easter road Tesla, so your argument has no weight.

Also his insitance on playing Hayes before Sinclair is alarming. Sinclair is a far better player.

There are no excuses for Lennon, he is not good enough to be manager on permanent basis.

21 Apr 2019 14:58:34
Tesla we are struggling for goals and he's leaving one of our best goal scorers sitting on the bench.
Same as with livi.

21 Apr 2019 15:17:54
The final whistle had just blew and all the neigh sayer's are wanting NL gone. Yes he's not wanted by many but the criticism is over the top. He stepped up and pulled Lawell
out a hole after BRexit. Were staggering over the line and need better performances in the last few games. The young team should be glad they weren't about during the Troglodytes 9 in a row! Their used to us winning and collecting silverware but we don't have a divine right to win every game. We have only scored 5 goals on the last 6 games which is poor. Ntcham has turned into Reggie Blinker.

21 Apr 2019 15:20:05
Who's that kev . if you mean Sinclair al give you he nicks a goal. but his overall play has been suspect the punters on here were wanting him dropped not to long ago so what is it play him or not.

21 Apr 2019 16:17:06
Sooner we get a manager in with good tactical decision making skills the better.

21 Apr 2019 16:32:21
Few points here

1) if we nicked a goal today and against livi, when he never even go on the park, we win the games

2) you call 60 goals in under 3 season nicking a goal?

3) Sinclair along with Forrest are in the top ten midfielders for combined goals and assists in Europe this season.

We need goals and are not playing one one of our best goal scorers.

21 Apr 2019 16:32:55
Hibs have not been beat in 10 games now. So getting a point away at Easter Road was not the worst result. The performance wasn’t great and the hot 🥵 weather might have had a few of our players huffing and puffing and playing out of sorts. Cham passing was awful but he probably needs more game time.

21 Apr 2019 16:34:15
Anyway cheer up it’s easter and we are 9 points ahead not behind. Mon the hoops.

21 Apr 2019 18:09:28
Tesla entitled to your opinion as am I or does yours trump everyone else's. . . We are lacking goals and NL isn't addressing this issue imo. So kindly explain how I'm exaggerating and overreacting by stating this and also saying we will still win league?

21 Apr 2019 14:26:52
As much as the Hibs keeper had a great game, we were very poor.

This team needs serious investmemt and Lennon isn't the answer.

21 Apr 2019 14:45:25
Downunderbhoy . If Lennon isn't the answer who is?
Investment doesn't necessary buy results and there is not necessary no link between proper investment and manager . Two different things.

21 Apr 2019 15:00:25
Omc he's sitting today with his head in his hands with no clue how to change what was happening.

21 Apr 2019 15:06:36
Old man Chris what utter nonsense! We invested in bringing Rodgers in on 2.5 mill a year and he delivered an invincible treble! Push the boat out for a manager with a bit about him instead of the cheap option lennon and we’ll reap the benefits! If Lennon has a came in and set the heather on fire he mite have had a good case for the job, but he’s been nowhere near that!3 nothing each draws in 7 league games with scraped victories against a poor hearts and Dundee ain’t good enough by a long way!

21 Apr 2019 15:23:10
So positive changes during game putting Sinclair in who is pele now and weah never mind rogic and it's lennys fault we didn't win. gie me piece.

21 Apr 2019 17:44:25
Mally the 1st change happened after after 62 minutes. Same as practically every time with Lennon.
We could see after 20 minutes it wasn't working and needed changed.
Rogic got under 30 minutes when he should have been on in 1st half from ntcham
Sinclair got under 20 minutes and is one of our top scorers
Weah got 6 minutes. 6 fecking minutes.
Two of them should have started never mind get under 30 minutes.

21 Apr 2019 19:47:57
Our first shot on goal was 26 mins in. that is all. If this was how we were playing at start of season we would be bang in trouble.

21 Apr 2019 23:44:00
OMC, why do we need investment? Did you count the amount of crosses that went into the box by us? It was well over 30, we need a striker that can convert some of those.

Ntcham should have been taken off in first half, the boy just wasn't there.

As for new manager, i truly don't know, but Lennon isn't the one for me.

21 Apr 2019 13:48:55
Think ntchams got his maws boots on.

21 Apr 2019 14:50:44
NtCham will be another Celtic player who will have to leave Social Media, as Celtic supporters queue for comedy writing instead of encouraging Celtic players.

21 Apr 2019 09:43:31
Ed what's your thoughts on the young lad Brophy?

He's a bright talent maybe wouldn't be at a level for us?

But could have a decent future in the game. He's a Celtic lad as well which earns merit points.

{Ed007's Note - He's certainly turning into a good SPFL player and he's a really nice lad off the pitch - I spoke to him a few times when he was at Accies - plus as you say he's Celtic daft but it would be a big step up for him to come back and play for us. There was never any doubt about his talent but he was seen as too small by us and then Hibs so he worked his ass off in the gym at Accies to build himself up and that's helped him out no end. I wouldn't be surprised to see Clarke take him down south if he decides to return there this summer at Championship level, not the Pub League though.}

21 Apr 2019 11:27:31
Ye, seems to have matured into a bullish striker. I remember him hassling the other mob the last time they played and he's got some pace about him.

If he sticks to it like you said he could get a break with Clark down south.

21 Apr 2019 10:05:23
Hi first time poster here always checked out the site over the years though, looking forward to hopefully another step towards the title today after last weeks performance feeling more optimistic but hibs shouldn't be took lightly, good start always key for us though first 15 min usually tells you what kind of game it's likely to be! HH COYBIG.

21 Apr 2019 07:57:47
Oops the killie stewards had to escort the ref to his car as the hordes were gunning for him. and Clarke says it was the worst ref display he had ever seen. imagine that was lenny let's see if BFKB comments on that.