Celtic Banter Archive April 21 2014

21 Apr 2014 18:37:41
Griffiths bashing is amongst us it seems.While I admit the guy has serious issues let's put into perspective. zidane (headbutt) Cantona ( assault) Maradona (drugs) Black (betting against own team lol) I and yourselves could name countless others who have been reprehensible, all of these players went on to continue playing with their teams. Griffiths is an angel considerin the others so let's give the guy a break.

{Ed007's Note - Zinedine Zidane (Headbutting an opponent during a match) - Retired from football after the WC final and was banned by FIFA for three matches for red card. He agreed to complete three days of community service with children in one of FIFA's humanitarian projects.

Eric Cantona (Assaulting a fan during a match) - Cantona was arrested and convicted for assault and sentenced to 2 weeks in prison which was overturned in the appeal court to 120 hours of community service. Manchester United suspended Cantona and fined him £20,000. The FA increased the ban to eight months and fined him a further £10,000

Diego Mradona - 1991: Suspended for 15 months in following a positive test for cocaine while playing for Napoli.

1994: Sent home from the 1994 World Cup in the US a drugs test for ephedrine, banned for 15 months.

1998: Handed a suspended jail sentence for shooting journalists with an air rifle four years earlier.

Ian Black - Banned for 10 matches, 7 of them suspended.

Leigh Griffiths - Nothing to see here. He's never set a foot wrong but if he played for Sevco we would all take great delight in dissecting his many crimes and misdemeanours. Any punishment he has had so far or in the future is completely unfounded and is only because he signed for CFC. If you EVER say anything against him you aren't a real supporter and aren't allowed to class yourself as a member of the #celticfamily or use the hashtag #becauseceltic on social media. Every mistake Griffiths has made is all down to him being a 'daft boy'.

You should apply to run his f

Wasn't defending him ed just tryin to put thing in perspective, as I said he has real issues and has to get a grip but I just not into castigating the guy.

{Ed007's Note - To put things in perspective how many times has he made the wrong kind of headlines and dragged the name of the club through the mud in less than 3 months of being here? And that's without bringing up his previous. You can hardly compare the Zidane headbutt, that happened during the course of a match against another player.}

Rayman, the thing with social media is we are all entitled to an opinion.

Griffiths is young ish so he knows the script with mobile phones with cameras and videos etc. He knows how twitter, and forums work better than folk in their 30's and over.

What he did was incredibly stupid and can be disciplinary matter in many jobs. I don't want to see him sacked and did find the booing a bit uncomfortable but I don't have any problem celebrating a Celtic goal, it's probably a natural reaction anyway.

I've went full circle I think with social media, when I first started using this site it was a bit of banter, good gossip, moan about performances etc then I'd get flustered about others opinion, take it dead serious but I'm back to just enjoying the banter and goss and respecting others views and opinions. There are too many Celtic fans to get them all to agree, we aren't clones (thankfully).

I could write a book about the contradictions I've seen on social media lol eg. wrestlemania the other week - 'why is my timeline full of folk tweeting about f***in wrestling' - eh because it's on the telly and you are very, very obviously following folk that like it.

I've seen more than a few Celtic fans saying Griffiths was abusive towards fans at the front of the away stand for booing him at Fir Park on Saturday, before coming on + scoring then cupping his ears at the away support. I was disgusted hearing fellow Celtic fans chanting "Leigh Griffiths sings what he wants" as well, some seem to have lost their way in what made our club different from others if they now think it's acceptable to back people like him!

Leigh Griffiths is a daft wee boy who will be given some coaching on how to behave at Celtic and he will also be told quietly that any other kind of behaviour like this and he is out. Now, Stokes is in court for assault on an Elvis impersonator, and I am sure there have been a few others and yet we are all quite happy with him. Please don't all dive on the band wagon about how our club came from refugee's etc, that was a long time ago and while it is a history to be celebrated should it be used to beat someone who sings a daft song. I agree his behaviour isn't becoming of a Celtic player but he will not have been used to this kind of scrutiny and living in the goldfish bowl that is Celtic is unbearable for some people. We have seen great players come to Celtic and flop because they can't handle all the external pressures on them BUT Griffiths on the pitch is a real asset and that is beyond doubt. Let the club deal with him, let him learn and you know what, give him a chance to right the wrongs he has done. I am sure he isn't happy with what he has done and I am sure he would love nothing more than to play for Celtic in the CL so maybe instead of the constant bashing a little support might help him settle and realise that he is playing for a huge club and that he needs to behave accordingly!

If he is as great a player that everyone keeps saying when it was clear that wolves didn't want him why didn't any championship relegation battlers in prem or even any other league 1 teams want him as I keep saying only hibs and celtic where even remotely interested explain that

{Ed007's Note - If Hibs could have came up with £700k he would be a Hibs player, they were always his first choice. It was only when it became clear Hibs couldn't come up with the money his agent opened talks with CFC. That's why it was a deadline day deal him and his agent were hoping Hibs could do something with Wolves money wise.}

Think I’ve had my wee say on the Griffiths situation, I totally understand why this is wrong and indefensible.

Got agree with some of Ally’s comments, the moral ship where most football Clubs are concerned sailed a very long time ago.

I don’t want to see him sacked and education is the way forward. Anyone who thinks a charitable man like Brother Walfrid would have judged someone like Griffiths obviously misunderstands. A Club open to all also includes sinners (for want of a better word) in my eyes. Yeah, we condemn the singing of songs such as the famine song – quite rightly, it is highly offensive and this is just as bad but education is the way.

Some singing the famine song equally do not understand what they are singing (although some do). I would even bet my last £1 some singing it are from Irish descent.

@Mrs E spot on, anyone here never sang these type of songs when they were young? I know I did. Different times I know but cast the first stone and all that lol.

{Ed007's Note - That's just another mundane, overused and pathetic excuse that's up there (down there?) with the 'he's a daft boy' gibberish. The Scottish Refugee Council have described Griffiths' actions as 'raw racism'.
October 2012: Celtic manager Neil Lennon - 'any form of racist behaviour against colour, religion, background will be an instant sackable offence'. He also said he personally has a 'zero tolerance policy' and that Celtic are an open club and always have been.
So either NL is a liar or the standards at the club have dropped so dramatically under Lawwell's & Lennon's tenure that supporters now find racism acceptable and will scrape any barrel they can find to make excuses for it as long as it's one of our players.
But woe betide any Sevco fans who sing The Famine Song, you can always rely on the #celticfamily for a good dose of double standards. What do you think managers like Stein, Mc'Neill or MON would say?
I also wonder what the Czech born Twardzik brothers think of their new team mate or has everyone forgotten we have Czech players at the club?}

The Clubs standards dropped the moment they became a professional Club many moons ago. We've had guys on £40k a week which would feed half the east end of Glasgow and is more than the joint income that a large percentage of Celtic fans have - funnily nobody was moaning then.

If your life is defined by a faceless hashtag such as #celticfamily then we need to unplug the broadband

@rayman what utter nonsense you talk. Do you think if griffiths was employed by say the police, he would still be in a job after his actions? But its okay, he plays for celtic! A wee slap on the wrist and everything will be right as rain.

Would be a totally different story if it was something derogatory towards celtic, you would be first one calling for his head!

You (like lennon)obviously think it is acceptable to promote racism

21 Apr 2014 17:04:36
JJB Sports are doing a special offer - 25% off the new Liverpool shirt when you trade in your old Man City one!

Funny you mention it che there are folk in my irish town bowling around in even reebok liverpool tops from years ago the last few weeks who didn't show colours for years its the same all across ireland i'd say where folk are suddenly coming out the woodwork dusting down age old liverpool gear ha
Gally

21 Apr 2014 14:38:12
I would like to see us go for Cameroons Vincent Aboubakar who plays in Ligue 1 for FC Lorient. 6ft striker who is 2nd in the scoring charts on 16 goals with 5 assists scoring 1 more than Cavani at this stage of the season. I think he will be a cheaper option than Nick Powell and is a proven goalscorer in a better league than ours and the Championship. At 22 his stock is rising and could have a profit selling on in a few years time. Check him out

Vincent Aboubakar is one of the strikers I mentioned a few months back. Can also play either wing, as well as up top. He's had a great season for Lorient and I can't imagine him costing us more than £4-5m, but my only concern is this maybe a one season wonder based on previous years?!

Absolutely. He's one of a list of forwards I think we could/should sign. Got a bit of everything and the quality to be composed. Him and Imoh Ezekiel of Standard would do me just fine. It's off loading strikers as well though that I think we need to sort.

Tbh, it doesn't really matter who we want to see signed. While Lennon is boss we're stuck with Stokes + Griffiths up front. We're to still see even a sneak peak of what Fridjonsson can (or can't) do 4 months after signing him!

21 Apr 2014 12:45:28
Why has the game this weekend on Sunday at 3pm?

Think it's because the 2014 remix team are at home on Saturday and our own fixture was only arranged a fortnight ago. DH

Will that be the bingo hit on the head this week Mrs E?

I've don't earn enough to be a bingo fiend Che lol

No, it clashes with the Liverpool v Chelsea match 😠