Celtic Banter Archive July 20 2017

 

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20 Jul 2017 22:59:41
Watching Christie tonight running the show tonight cracking young player thankfully he's still ours.

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20 Jul 2017 22:24:59
Just wanting to gauge opinions here But with our club getting in trouble again because of banners. Do you want the banners or not. For me no, don't need them in our wonderful, for me makes us look so prehistoric. We are better than that.

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{Ed007's Note - It was a banner, singular.}

20 Jul 2017 22:45:43
nothing in football compares to the green brigades displays when they get it right and they do most times.

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20 Jul 2017 22:57:29
Ban the banners ban the pyrotechnics ban the songs ban the half time draw. Ban those that are easily offended might not be everyone's cup of tea but a thought the singing was fantastic last night.

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20 Jul 2017 23:05:07
Stop pandering to the hypocrites with posts like that have you actually been truly offended by any of the banners or you just one of these political correctness gone mad types of people.

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20 Jul 2017 23:11:52
I agree that The Green Brigade have done some wonderful displays and are very talented but I feel that the banner on Wednesday was deliberately provocative and not funny. I grew up in Belfast and my family were intimidated from our home in 1971 and I had an uncle killed on active service and as a result of the troubles I have lost friends, both catholic and protestant. Yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the ceasefire and I don't believe the banner was a good way to celebrate that. I believe that for loyalists or orange men to criticize the banner is extremely hypocritical but it saddens me a little that we stoop to their depths. Having said this I hope the Green Brigade continue to entertain us and animate the stadium. let's not become what we hate, let's get over it, pay the fines and give Rosenberg a football lesson next week.

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20 Jul 2017 23:15:35
Don't know what you mean by political correctness,

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20 Jul 2017 23:42:03
All banners should now be shown to club officials before any game.
If they club ok them then that's fine but if club think they are inappropriate then they don't get unfurled.
Anyone unfurling unauthorised banners lose their season tickets.
That would sort it out.

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{Ed007's Note - Anyone unfurling unauthorised banners has to get 'King Billy Would Have Loved This Piece' tattooed on his arse, hold a flare AND a green smoke bomb on the penalty spot during the next game at Ibrox while singing the well known IRA anthem The Streets of New York or lose their season ticket and be banned from participating in the Celtic Pools and buying the Celtic View.}

20 Jul 2017 23:54:23
Political correctness is a form of obsessive madness as far as im concerned. However our club and its stadium have rules, read them and practice them wisely i say. Keep the banners about Celtic and our glorious history and don't give the scum an excuse. The GB are incredible in full flow, but the odd time they cross over to an uncomfortable level, just need to keep the heid and keep it Celtic.

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{Ed007's Note - I can easily supply Tena that can deal with a 'full flow' ;)

20 Jul 2017 23:25:48
It's a case of knowing it will get the club into trouble it wouldn't surprise me if the gb section gets closed by UEFA if we get into the playoff when I saw the banner I was angry because I knew UEFA would hit the club.

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21 Jul 2017 00:12:30
i love the streets of new york, it reminds me of my teens watching the wolfies at the apollo, barras.

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21 Jul 2017 00:11:00
Ed you talk about tena and all that but the truth is that this sort of thing is hurting our club.
Everyone knew that we were going to be in trouble for that banner the minute we seen it.
Whoever made it knew they would get the club in trouble.
Wether we agree or disagree with the rules they are the rule.
Will you still be talking about tena if they shut part of the stadium?

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{Ed007's Note - I said the exact same on another thread, Kev. UEFA won't close a part of the stadium over some banners though, that's just scaremongering. As I said on the other thread it'll be another slap on the wrist fine and TRIFC fans will talk about it more than Celtic fans, it's really not that big a deal.
And as for hurting our club, did the Palestinian display hurt our club, the tifos for anniversaries etc? People are more concerned about who's upset and offended, oh look there's TRIFC fans offended by banners - who cares? If it wasn't that it would be something else, let them get on with it. Wasn't what happened to Aberdeen fans in Bosnia more important, I wonder if Aberdeen and Bosnia fans forums are talking about a banner at Celtic Park?
Again, Kev, this really isn't a big deal.}

21 Jul 2017 09:02:21
That's a lot of people's point though ed. The green brigade bring a lot of good things like the tifos but let themselves down with this kind of thing.
Eventually the club is going to say enough is enough and ban them from doing anything.
I personally believe that would be a shame because some of it is great.

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{Ed007's Note - It'll be sad to see Grace being scrapped from the supporters songbook, after all we don't want to upset anyone by singing any songs about Irish history.
It's about time Celtic grew a set of balls and fought back against these never ending trumped up charges. When we played Inter a couple of years ago both sets of fans let off flares yet we were the only ones charged and subsequently fined, why weren't the Italians? Would UEFA have let a Real Madrid match be moved because of an anti-Catholic 'celebration', would Ronaldo or Messi be booked for having a bottle threw at them?
You're going on about a GB banner but how many charges over the 2 legs has the Club caused, FOUR! LG's shocking charge for tying a scarf to a goalpost (again, would Ronaldo or Messi have bern charged?), 5 players being booked in a match with one of them being LG's shocking booking, then there's the bib nonsense and blocking stair stuff - so have you e-mailed the Club to complain about their conduct and receiving these charges, fines and LG's ban?}

21 Jul 2017 11:54:52
I will never see eye to eye politically with the GB but after having an encounter with those rabid vermin on the London Rd good on them I hope "that banner" got right under their skin anyway I thought noiseing up opposition fans was part of football . my bad.

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{Ed007's Note - My nephew said a fair amount of them on London Road had Scottish accents and there were a lot of Cockney Geezers in there too.}

21 Jul 2017 13:13:13
Ed, Perfect response to all this hysteria. We as a Club are been singled out by Football Authorities in and out of Scotland. We know why that is in our own sad and bigoted Country but Uefa. well they are simply a corrupt dysfunctional, self serving band of white males who see fit to criticise and prosecute a Great Club like ours. While gorging themselves in all sorts of troughs. hypocrites.

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21 Jul 2017 13:28:47
Ed av said the same on another thread that eufa should be more concerned with fans being attacked in the streets and clubs fans being advised for there own safety that they'll not be able to attend a match because certain club fans can't be trusted. but no they fine us for a banner football is a working class sport and a coming together of fans you are always gonny get this and i see nothing wrong with it. a mean av seen footage of ladt night at the proms and whos to say am not offended or the singing at the rugby its all bollocks.

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21 Jul 2017 13:06:51
Ed's right here, (Plus am his official TENA supplier ) I got pelter"s on here for saying RD would get done for the "roar" thinking they would do him eventually but it never happened he sought police advice on it (one of his cleverer stroke's) and at the end of the day it was an outsider CELEBRATING!

Years ago that Hibs coloured goalie on loan from Chelsea would walk around his entire goal frame blessing it and praying nobody said a peep to him can't be the same said for Boruc though Eh?

The beaks are selective LG getting booked for that? Did Souness give a toss when he planted the flag in Turkey?

Celebrations/ Wind ups part n parcel of the game

Did the green brigade not pay a fine Ed somewhere?

At the end of the day in modern day times if the club wanted them caught it would be pretty easy with people onn the ground / cameras and move on

As long as no one is getting hurt! Sticks and Stones .

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21 Jul 2017 14:22:07
Uefa won't be happy till fans are sitting on there hands sooking a sweetie unless your an elite club you know from one of the big 5 countries crooked as fifa.

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21 Jul 2017 21:11:52
up the revolution!

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20 Jul 2017 21:47:03
Ryan Christie getting absolutely rave reviews tonight from the Dons fans. Would love to see him get a chance here. Also good to see GMS doing well.

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{Ed007's Note - It's been a great week for Scottish teams in Europe, Kev. The top two teams are through to the next round in their competitions and the TRIFC fans have a Celtic fans' banner to talk about.}

20 Jul 2017 22:25:21
For some reason I decided to watch the Aberdeen match tonight and I must say Christie was absolutely fantastic, head and shoulders above any other player on the park. Two defence splitting passes for their goals. it was his all round play that impressed me most. Full of energy and confidence in possession, didn't waste a pass and was the only creative option for Aberdeen. I can see him having a future under BR if he continues to develop. Well done young man.

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{Ed007's Note - I was kind of watching it on the laptop and thought Aberdeen played really well.}

20 Jul 2017 23:14:33
Definitely the better team Ed, Bosnians were very poor in all honesty! Christie was the stand out player.

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21 Jul 2017 00:12:23
The bhoys looks like he's going to have a great season.

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20 Jul 2017 20:51:37
Anyway back to the football and my Sinclair 4-0 came in last night boom.
Thought ntchiam was a bit off pace tho early days. Benyu looks a bundle of energy and could be handy if early appearances are anything to go by.
Right winger don't see how we need one wee forest like a spectator last night everything goes through sinky and quite tight the bhoy just oozes class.
read on here somewhere asking if brown was at centre back he did spend a lot of time there but that liked more a case of dropping deep to get moves going from the back.
Looking forward to another great season (if they don't shut the section down πŸ‘€)

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20 Jul 2017 21:26:00
Welsbhoy thought ntcham had a good game . and looks promising. also thought forrest had a decent game . nobody was bad although big moussa lacked a bit of sharpness . just watching Aberdeen game as I post and Christie has just set up two goals and playing really good . mckay Stevens got second for them.

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20 Jul 2017 13:26:16
i was at the game last night and I'm in standing section just up from the green brigade. I love what they bring to the game and can see both sides of the argument when they divide opinion.
As for last night tho the banners were intentional in there meaning. The songbook from the section wasn't all down to them at nearly every opportunity they would get a Celtic song going but the songs were started all over the place and carried through it was reminiscent of the old days in the jungle I think what a lot of people don't recognise is that the green brigade are only a certain amount of people in there and yes tho they are very instrumental in what happens they are not to blame for all that goes on. I struggled to see anyone (rightly or wrongly myself included) who wasn't joining in whenever a song was started. I've spent the last 2 seasons in the section and rarely has that happened.

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20 Jul 2017 15:57:13
The solduers song is the irish national anthem so we're clear on that one but there was a few wee sneaky ones thrown in HH.

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20 Jul 2017 16:02:13
Agreed Welshboy-it wasn't just the Green Brigade it was spread around the whole stadium. It's all about opnions as they say but I sit right beside them and heard or saw nothing sectarian. If the decision is made to ban the Green Brigade then to nearly quote a song 'If they do they're going to have to ban us all'. Like the old poppy chestnut the political topic is once again likely to divide opinion between us all 'one and all'. I think the Police landrover barricades across the roads and Strathclyde's finest looking and behaving like the PSNI probably set the tone.

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20 Jul 2017 16:49:30
im sure Rodgers being of a family of mixed religion and a man proud of the peace of his country will be delighted at being placed next to an IRA man. im not going to be a hypocrite and slate people for singing Republican songs but its 2017. it has to stop at Celtic park. it has nothing to do with Football. im all for people going to a gig for rebels or a sash bash on the other side but it has nothing to do with football. The GB make a good atmosphere that's for sure but they are not bigger than the club. i sit above the SS and sat in it. i have not heard a song the two boys at the front have not started. all that happens is we get fined and then the tickets will go up.

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20 Jul 2017 17:23:44
Agreed on one point JJPD-associating Rodgers was innaproptiate.

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20 Jul 2017 17:29:48
Not disagreeing with you but it was ok for the Celtic view to sell issues using paddy McCourt in the same way.

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20 Jul 2017 18:05:15
The Ulster Unionist Party are now condemning the Green Brigade as well. Feck off. When you don't stop me and my family walking and driving freely around the streets of Airdrie come back and tell me you're offended. C'mon Celtic fans-develop some collective balls and refuse to acccept the biased views of the SFA, UEFA and Scottish MSM. Attending Mass will soon become an offence because it offends some sash wearing drum beating knuckle dragging Neanderthal. What a state we're in Scotland.

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20 Jul 2017 18:12:34
I don't think there is anything wrong with the older rebel songs, I was brought up on them, but I thought the banner was unnecessary, everyone on here gets in a fankle if the Israelis or the Syrians or whoever blow up women and children, but the provos were doing it years ago, and I don't think we need to be reminded of it at a football match,

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20 Jul 2017 18:24:07
JFP. You're right. Time we told the SFA, UEFA, UUPish party, the DUPish party SMSM and any others to get stuffed. Ps. the best mass is St Aloysius in the Barras. COYBIG.

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20 Jul 2017 18:32:54
Sorry I know more than a few will disagree but we can't bleat about the other half being up to their knees in fenian blood when we're glorifying para military organisations.

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20 Jul 2017 18:45:30
Cheers VT. I'll do Mass at St. Aloysius after my next trip to Bills Tool Store. Keep the Faith. God Bless! ☘️.

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20 Jul 2017 18:48:44
Well said JFP, some people just melt away, We are not and will never be as a Mr Roy Kean said " A Prawn Sandwich Brigade" The Green Brigade is an interegal part of our club, helping us to remember where our founders came from, the reasons why our club was formed, and for me making the issues like Ireland, The occupation of Palestine, human rights in China, etc, etc a focus to a world wide audience. How many plaudits and how much respect have we gained through the endeavors of the Green Brigade, they should be cherished and we should all stand up for them. it would be a shame if we let the moans of knuckldraggers and low life establishment figures get in our way, and if anybody wants a prawn sandwich, they know where they can go,

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20 Jul 2017 18:52:25
Careful though. My da's a blue nose and has been propositioned many times when he's sat in the car outside waiting for me, the mother and my sisters.

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20 Jul 2017 18:55:54
Rangobango nobody last night was up to their knees in anybody's blood. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Surrely if they can help thier state sponsored 'terrorist' heroes with displays on the pitch and the parachute regiment abseiling from the Govan Stand we have a right to remember other brave men. Maggie once said Mandella was a terrorist. To the Irish the leaders of the rebellion were rebels then but they're heroes now honoured on the 100th anniversary. By a fee books big fella learn some history and then give us your opinion.

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20 Jul 2017 19:02:08
My op wasn't to start a debate on what's right or wrong it was to highlight that the green brigade can't be taken into account for everything that goes on. Last night proved that it runs deep throughout more than a "minority" of our club as I said myself included. Celtic is and always will be more than just a football club, history and traditions of our club should never be forgotten.

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20 Jul 2017 19:05:04
Cracker VT! πŸ˜‚πŸ‘β˜˜οΈ.

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20 Jul 2017 19:46:33
Remember, as the great Xavi said. Celtic, like Barcelona, are more than a football club. Our clubs are a symbol of a culture and community that has not always been made welcome in their respective countries.

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{Ed007's Note - Yeah because Celtic fans REALLY need lessons on our Club from the likes of him.}

20 Jul 2017 19:56:04
no matter what way you dress it up football is football and should be kept as such if you want more get involved in politics and make changes where it matters.

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20 Jul 2017 20:04:03
I didn't see the banner as remembering "other brave men", I saw it showing the difference between the ones who believe in the peace process and the ones who don't.

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20 Jul 2017 20:34:41
Did u actually look at the banners

The paramilitary one was a of a gb member

The Rodgers one is one identical to a front page of the Celtic view depicting paddy McCourt "danger genius at work" tho we all know the meaning behind it.

As for the stair blocking that was a joke police were everywhere on the aisles.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think the Brendan Rodgers banner was included in the charge mate, it only states an illicit banner in the singular. If it is included though that's a joke but then again what do you expect from UEFA?}

20 Jul 2017 20:55:16
True mate was more aimed at those in the support showing there disgust at it.

On a side note knowing how much the sfa love us wonder if they'll be looking at retrospective action for wee griff tying scarf to post at greyskull now uefa have done it lol.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think there was anything at all wrong with the Rodgers banner, if we had only had that and the Brendan's undefeated army one we wouldn't have been charged. The one depicting the Oglach was always going to cause problems and that's the annoying thing for me, the young lads in the GB aren't stupid and they must have known it would lead to a charge after the Bobby Sands and William Wallace one. It'll be another slap on the wrist fine and TRIFC fans will talk about it more than Celtic fans will.
There's no chance of the SFA retrospectively charging LG and I hope this episode hasn't put him off doing it in future - is tying a scarf to a goalpost in front of Celtic fans any more provocative than the Ronny Roar in front of Celtic fans? It's another joke of a charge that Celtic should show some over balls and fight back.}

20 Jul 2017 20:57:31
Wasn't at the game last night as im on holiday. Id hoped we would have moved on from the IRA patter but by the sounds of it no! We should all be proud of the Irish connection to our club but we're a Scottish team and the provo patter has got to stop. No good sagging the other mob when we sing songs about glorifying people who were killers.

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20 Jul 2017 21:06:38
We all know the meaning of the "paramilitary "one.

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20 Jul 2017 21:33:49
JFP nothing wrong with my historical education. grew up in heart of family mired in middle of the troubles. I like most in this country wish we could move on from the marching neanderthals and the old songs and hatreds. I prefer John lennons take on life "Give peace a chance" and in particular disapointed some sunk to the other sides level sorry if that makes me a panty wetter. If Martin McGuiness and Ian Paisley can find some harmony there is hope.

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20 Jul 2017 22:10:16
Think some get there recent history from books and political pamphlets, and some others have lived through it.

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20 Jul 2017 22:48:18
Ed. re LG. 'Over balls'? U need a break. lol! :)

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{Ed007's Note - Hahahaha I never noticed that! It's been a long couple of days mate, we've had a guy in tiling and he's been here at 8 am both mornings and the Mrs is on the early shift. 'Over balls'....

20 Jul 2017 09:21:34
I have been thinking a while that young Henderson needs to leave Celtic for the good of his career.
Last night after seeing ntcham and benyu reinforced that belief.
He's a very good young player and I am a real fan of his but I just can't see him getting game time.

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20 Jul 2017 09:59:43
Personally i think it'd be a mistake to let himgo. if not in immediate plans for br I'd like him to go to hibs or Aberdeen and get a full season under his belt in the spl and we could then see his potential. i don't think he's far behind any of the midfielders but he won't be able to prove or improve his worth sitting on the bench or stands . hopefully we'll see more rotation this season if we get to go and he'll get game Time. him kouassi benyu biton could cover more than adequately in spl. and rotate into the first 11.

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{Ed007's Note - Henderson's contract is up next summer so a years loan wouldn't help us, we'd be better selling him on or letting him go to further his career.}

20 Jul 2017 10:21:29
Even with rotation he won't get enough game time. He is well down the ranks. If he doesn't leave his career is going to stall.

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20 Jul 2017 11:05:21
I rate the lad and would be gutted to see him go as i think over the last few seasons if he was given a good run of games he would have kept his place in the side, but now we have an abundance of midfielders who look more than capable of being stars for us so i think now is the time to move him on for the good of his career. He is more than capable of starting every week for any other club in the SPL. At this stage of his career Hibs would be a good move for him to get plenty game time and develop and he has openly said he loved his time at Easter Road. Who knows we might see him back at CP in the future its just not the right time for him at the moment he is too good to be sitting watching games every week. Wish the lad nothing but success in his career.

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20 Jul 2017 12:38:56
Didn't know that ed . if another midfielder comes in like pasilic as rumoured . what's the point of Henderson hill Johnston etc staying at the club to just play development games and get occasional bench splinters.

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20 Jul 2017 13:47:20
I just don't think he is good enough to force his way into contention and we should look to sell him. That would be in the best interest of both parties. As ed pointed out a year left on his contract, no game time means we get nothing. He is worth possibly Β£1.5m and that is better spent on either helping us buy, or pay wages for better players.

He would be the top player in every other team in scotland, but, we have moved beyond his capabilities imo.

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20 Jul 2017 13:55:46
It just shows how well we are developing as a team. Some great midfield players now. Would rather sell Bitton if honest.

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20 Jul 2017 14:25:00
Bitton looks to be surplus now too. A few million for him would also be the right option. It's always a bit sad when players move on. But, we want to get better and that raises the bar. The bar has risen, I'm happier with that.

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20 Jul 2017 19:26:35
Magicpole Bitton would do well in a technical league like Spain or Italy rather than the blood and thunder of British football I think. His main let down is that he slows the play down far too often.

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23 Jul 2017 10:57:52
I agree Kevboy. The type of game we are playing requires speed and movement. Bitton is suited to a less dynamic counter attack. I hope we get a few bob for him.

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20 Jul 2017 09:11:03
I love the banter on here and some really intelligent comments made at times. I learned more about administration, liquidation, EBT's etc. through this site than I ever knew before.
One thing which I do look at is the names of the other members. abighandforjeremybeadle was the one which made me think about these. I am sure some younger members will be wondering who the hell jeremy beadle is and why applaud him (not knowing the hand reference story) . Some blatantly obvious, others not quite so. What is the story behind your name might be interesting.
Mine is fairly obvious. I am not the tallest person but I have a passion for Celtic. TinyTim was a fairly obvious choice.

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20 Jul 2017 10:17:27
I'm BigRab because I'm called Rab and I'm a fat b*****d! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

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20 Jul 2017 10:52:42
Hahaha brilliant Rab. TinyTim my name is probably obvious enough to people of a certain age who remember him. Probably not in the best of taste but just a bit of a running joke from our younger days between me and my mates. It's what we used to call our pub quiz team (back in the day before we were married and were allowed out for the night! )

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20 Jul 2017 13:50:07
I'm from just outside balloch at loch Lomond and whenever the sun was out me and the boys would ask each other who was heading up ballochi for a pint πŸ˜‚.

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20 Jul 2017 13:52:16
BigRab I nearly choked on my coffee laughing at your explanation of your name. :)

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20 Jul 2017 14:39:49
we'll not ask about yours magicpole lol.

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20 Jul 2017 15:29:13
I'm no Welsh :-)

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20 Jul 2017 16:56:26
My entire life I have always been Big Jamiebhoy and I go out my way to tell everybody that is bhoy with an H! My number is 7 because our number is 7 and stupidly paid over the odds for my number plate because that was it 7 plus my initials

When they give that number away to cheaply (jersey wise) it does my head in!

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20 Jul 2017 18:28:30
My names Thomas I'm a Tim and support The Tic and my position was goalkeeper. When I first got a computer we weren't really computer savvy so I made our first email address tamtimtic@ etc etc. My Mrs used to go mental when applying for jobs when we were posted to a different place as places of work started to ask for email addresses and she had to use that one πŸ˜‚Hail Hail.

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20 Jul 2017 05:49:51
Steven Caulker would be a great addition to a squad bursting now with quality. Just shows you how much BR knows the English market the players coming in are the real deal and a repeat of a treble must be a real target for this squad πŸ€.

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20 Jul 2017 13:49:37
Win every game too. That's possible and I don't care what anybody says. :)

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20 Jul 2017 02:33:05
OK, bored at work…. So I whipped this up. Should all higher ranking teams win their ties, groups would look like this.
Real Bayern Chelsea Juve
Benfica Monaco Donetsk Spartak

Barca Atletico PSG Dortmund
Sevilla Man City Porto Man Utd

Napoli Spurs Basel Kiev
Ajax Olympiacos Anderlecht Liverpool

Roma Besiktas Celtic Salzburg Copenhagen Ludogorets Feyenoord Leipzig

All up in the air at the moment I know, just a bit of fun.

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20 Jul 2017 09:08:31
Don't understand the whole thing sorry Melb. Does that mean we could face the likes of Roma or Leipzig in the play offs? 😯.

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20 Jul 2017 09:39:46
Think it's how he expects the Pots to be when everyone has qualified for the group stage draw.

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20 Jul 2017 11:11:46
Thanks Kev, my bad. I even knew that Leipzig and Roma finished second, so have already qualified. Then I seen the thread down the page as to who we might actually face in the play offs.

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20 Jul 2017 14:20:49
Some tough teams to play in the play off round, but I feel once we get our shooting boots on we will be comfortable

Last season at times we just didn't score enough and this season so far it's been the same however Ntcham last night moved the ball quickly and effectively and I think he will be a superb signing.

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20 Jul 2017 16:09:54
I agree there's a few toughies in there Kev, but I wouldn't be particularly nervous of any of them either. It is what it is. If you're a Champions League side, you need to be good enough to beat sides of that class, quite simply.

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20 Jul 2017 00:17:07
Jeez. If any confirmation was needed that the English market has gone berzerk then there it is. Daryl Murphy,34 yrs old, Newcastle to Forest apparantley. Β£2m. The biggest 'lump o' wid' since Cascarino!

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20 Jul 2017 09:06:16
Is that not pretty close to what we paid, before the 'boom'?

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20 Jul 2017 13:55:44
Dier from spurs being quoted at 60 million is the one that left me thinking , do you get a free stadium with that?

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20 Jul 2017 19:38:20
Kyle Walker Β£50m! absolutely crazy.

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20 Jul 2017 22:50:59
Guys, the only point I was making that he's 34.and sh@te! Β£2M?

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