Celtic Banter Archive January 20 2021

20 Jan 2021 23:35:39
The result tonight is irrelevant had we managed a last minute winner still irrelevant. The facts are we have a disjointed team with a man at the helm who can’t fix it why is he still there. Players are being shoe horned into positions in the hope it works formations change from one week to the next. Players look lost and yes I agree that regardless of how we play every one to a man should be fighting for the jersey and they are not but why. Buck stops at Lennon this is inexcusable the situation were in.

21 Jan 2021 00:02:29
Hes got to go tomorrow.

21 Jan 2021 02:28:05
The Board will know all about it in 5 weeks if there's no changes being made.

21 Jan 2021 02:43:16
Totally agree welshy mate, Lennon needs to go, for everyone’s sake especially his own. He looks like a man on the edge, I hope the board take the decision out of his hands cos despite what anyone says I don’t think he would turn his back on us when he thinks he can improve the situation, even though we all know it’s irretrievable.

21 Jan 2021 02:51:40
I was stunned he was still here weeks maybe months back. Now it's just a joke.

20 Jan 2021 23:06:02
I don't blame Barkas for either goal tonight but his reaction and attempt at there first goal is terrible. Flat footed, poor positioning and he dives about an inch!

20 Jan 2021 23:20:21
Chinks, Barkas is hands down the worst keeper we have ever had!

20 Jan 2021 23:28:36
What about Carl Muggleton.

20 Jan 2021 23:33:43
Ian Andrews?

20 Jan 2021 23:40:14
Didn't he set a record for consecutive clean sheets which stood for a number years? Barkas has the record of being the only keeper to dive but yet not move😂😂😂.

21 Jan 2021 00:55:03
Barkas is worse than Ian Andrews and Carl Muggleton. 5 million? Can't get my head around it.

21 Jan 2021 10:05:25
He is classy on the ball though. Maybe would have been a good choice in different times. Not a lennon keeper that's for sure. The main problem for me is how can someone have a free header from 8 yards from a free kick on th half way line and how does someone get a free shot from the same distance. That said Barkas hasn't made a save yet. We have resorted to Duffy punting the ball forward hoping someone will get on end of it. It's like watching a pub team at the moment.

21 Jan 2021 10:07:20
Andrews managed a handful of appearances when Packie was out injured, (5) , I believe his first game was a 5-1 defeat over at the Crumpledome.
Muggleton, brought in by Lou Macari, didn't fair much better but I'd always defer to Buzz Bomb for the stats.
I gave Barkas the benefit of the doubt, considering what's standing infront of him, but more and more he looks like a rabbit caught in the headlamps.

20 Jan 2021 22:43:49
Surely enough is enough now. We've got to the point where we don't expect to win.

A mate of mine once asked me if I expect Celtic to win every game in the season. I said come the end of the season I don't expect us to have won 38/ 38, but I do expect us to win every game we go in to.
Now that's not me feeling we're entitled to win every game. But just the confidence I used to have.

It's gone now and we need a complete overhaul. Lennon leaving now is a start but it's at least 6 months too late.

20 Jan 2021 22:26:18
Tonight was fairly typical of our season. Every crossball we are suspect, keeper doesn't instill confidence and sets the defence up so deep. We have nothing up front and nobody that can get to the byeline and put a decent ball in. Why this steady decline has been allowed to fester is beyond most fans and the board must be watching a different movie from us.

20 Jan 2021 23:07:59
The Livy keeper looked like the 5 million guy with the Greek as the on loan youngster
Got that bad I was hoping ref would call the game due to snow covering lines, but wasn’t to be
Got lucky with the off side goal, it could have went either way as with penalty claim
What a season, can’t remember when things were as dire
Still, looking forward this must be the final nail in the coffin and the board need to act now it can’t be allowed to get worse
I’m guessing it’s eddy that’s positive?

20 Jan 2021 23:21:50
Chinks, I used to think Tebily was a bomb scare. This lot make him look like Maldini.

20 Jan 2021 20:25:34
I wonder if Collum will be man marking Christie tonight, like he did the last time.

20 Jan 2021 22:07:23
No need for anyone to mark Christie, he is rank. He believes in the hype and think he is too good for us. He is so wrong.

20 Jan 2021 22:12:03
I think tonight every player thinks they are toogood for us, totally inept performance, im sick to the back teeth of watching theese overpaid pricks. Duffy is an embarrassment and should be paying us to play. Hopefully ill wake up in morning and desmond will have cleared the decks.

20 Jan 2021 22:12:43
Christie an empty Jersey like he has been all season. Ntchams looked more interested when he's played!

20 Jan 2021 22:25:50
I don’t know how Christie finished the game.
He loses a 60/ 40 challenge in his favour with a half hearted tackle and it caused the equaliser.
I would try and sell him ASAP.

20 Jan 2021 22:29:57
Chinks I’ve said for a while he’s p! sh. Headless chicken with no football brain. Empty Energy.

20 Jan 2021 22:36:44
Absolutely, I've said it already Buzz Bomb, some of these guys are going through the motions as they inch closer to the exit.

Eddy, Ntcham and Christie should be sold now, in this window.

20 Jan 2021 22:38:06
Me too BB, i would take £4m right now. He scores a few corkers, bit like Kris Commons all about himself and is a man down most weeks. Trouble is we have few that are any better at the moment.

{Ed007's Note - Has any other player regressed as much a Christie under Lennon? Some might say Edouard but was he ever really a grafter that sparked about the park like a LG, Hooper or even Dembele who did put in a shift making space.}

20 Jan 2021 23:22:16
Ed007 not logged in for a long time and didn't want to lately (prob since October) as didn't want to be seen as doom n gloom! But Jesus. i can't think of 1 player who has improved under Lennon. Guys like Mcgregor and Christie have regressed under him so much. Mcgregor basically calling him out last week saying he didn't understand the game tactics or setup. It's got to stop now - should have happened months ago when we were scraping by and papering over the cracks with Lennon telling us that performances were up there with some of the best he's managed. no pulling the wool over anyone's eyes unless deluded. On that note I'd also like to appreciate a few folk's undying loyalty to NL, based on what he's been through in the past, but this is the here and now, the future and for that to be prosperous we need a new manager, as well as a revamp on how things work for the club to progress. We've had great times but it's at a very low point in the clubs history considering that this was considered to be THE year of all years. I'll never stop supporting the bhoys but it's time for a change and for me its the final, final, final. nail in the coffin. i hope tomorrow brings encouraging news.
PS thank you Ed007 for your efforts and hope all is gd. 🍀.

{Ed007's Note - I'm good buddy thanks, nice to hear from you as well 👍

20 Jan 2021 22:57:23
Agree Ed, probably partly after NL shouted him and the others out after Ferenvaros. He downed tools and is going through the motions playing for his move (shoot from everywhere) not the team. Have any players improved or even remained at the same level under NL? Serious question.

21 Jan 2021 12:09:51
I'd say McGregor's gone the most backwards Ed. He looks a pale imitation of the player we saw under BR. He looked like he could go on to play for anybody back then but not this season. Hasn't been helped with what's round about him though.

{Ed007's Note - Good points, Kev 👍

21 Jan 2021 12:10:02
I'd say keep Christie as yes when he plays he plays well, but you can see clearly from the expression in his face and even from McGregor's face they have lost all confidence in Lennon. What instructions are they being given, I know players should be able to play and play well but if there is no planning or scope and everytime they see a set piece coming in. The must be thinking WTF.

Ultimately the manager needs to go and after watching the Keano interview I wouldn't be too disappointed to have him come in and try get this sh1t show competitive again.

20 Jan 2021 19:56:01
Hey my friends Enrico is just getting ready to settle down and watch the bhoys.

Ed my friend do u think there will be any arrivals before end of the month? We could still be doing with quality player to play on the right hand side.

Enrico knows a lot of the press has taken up on the trip and other things like this you know but not much talk of strengthening

Cheers my friends hail hail

Small glass of grape juice to watch the bhoys 🍷.

{Ed007's Note - If football's going to continue I would think a CB and a winger will be brought in but would you spend money on fees and wages for new players that aren't going to have any matches to play once football's stopped?
Fans would want the money docked from Lawwell's salary for unnecessary (morally wrong?) spending.}

20 Jan 2021 20:51:26
Ed007 that's a good point. If that is case, I would be happy with a couple of loan signings to get us through.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

20 Jan 2021 21:07:16
How many loans are we allowed? Already have 3.

20 Jan 2021 19:35:24
Chin up bhoys n girhls we have been in the doo doo before chin up c'mon the hoops tough venue but winable hh.

20 Jan 2021 20:18:05
Celtic won’t have the excuse that the surface is too dry tonight.

20 Jan 2021 18:01:52
so on the celtic twitter page they have released a video and statement of how our donations for the foundation have helped.

𝟑𝟔𝐤 families/ individuals
𝟏𝟎𝐤 pensioners
𝟕𝐤 homeless people

As well as providing hot meals and drinks to NHS staff and £𝟗𝟎𝐤 worth of Christmas gifts to 𝟐𝟐𝟕𝟐 children.

and we still have people on the post complaining about Dubai and Lennon out. get a grip of yourself youse are getting embarrassing now a post about how our charity efforts have helped thousands of people and we have people on crying about dubai.

20 Jan 2021 18:16:05
That’s amazing and worthwhile for all the hard work from the Celtic Foundation.
A great response from the Celtic Family.

20 Jan 2021 18:19:16
They are two separate things UI one a great charity the other is the Football side of this club. Football side every one on this site and pay money to support their team surely has a right to say how they feel how the club is run and how it's doing on the pitch I can't believe for one minute that you have sat and watched a game and said this player is rubbish get him off if someone thinks something is going wrong surely they have a right to say it?

20 Jan 2021 18:53:45
tony if its two separate things why post it on the tweet about how thousands were helped a tweet were the posts should be posts of praise and well done. why go on a tweet were thousands were helped through a charity and cry about your team no doing well and you don't like the manager and Dubai.

yes tony i have complained about when players have played poor and shouted get him of but i don't only sing when i am winning. if you agree going on a tweet about how a charity has helped thousands to complain about performances then its a sad day mate.

20 Jan 2021 19:12:24
Of course we are all allowed to voice our opinions, as that is what the site is for.

However, it is worth mentioning that the attacks against our club in the media, government and from ex pros, is a witch hunt, designed to tarnish the image of our club.

By aggreing publicly with these bampots only puts more fuel on the fire and helps them achieve their goal of turning fans against the club.

The people on the other side all know how important Lawwell has been in making us so strong financially and they would love to see him gone and are taking this opportunity to weaken his position.

All I can say is we should be careful what we wish for as the grass is not always greener on the other side.

20 Jan 2021 19:14:54
It does not matter how many good things that you do if you’ve done something wrong. You will have to take the responsibility for that.
The Dubai thing was just wrong and should not be supported as this has brought considerable embarrassment to the club.
I appreciate that you obviously don’t agree, but ask yourself this, same rules in place would you agree with them heading out to Dubai again next week.
Whilst the indefensible is defended, respect is not forth coming.

{Ed007's Note - Why was the Dubai trip "just wrong"? A lot of people are screaming that but nobody can say why.}

20 Jan 2021 19:19:14
I wouldn't in the same time do that personally. But I would congratulate Celtic for the charity work that they do. You know how I feel about the way the club is run at the moment and how I feel about Lennon but I would give praise when praise is due to the good things that Celtic do I don't think it's Hypocritical it's just expressing an interest in the club.

20 Jan 2021 19:28:07
LAW Do you honestly believe that this year has been a success do you honestly believe that we don't need to change things? It's not about agreeing with the media that has an agenda against Celtic its about the way this season has gone For me it's clear that changes have to be made I would say change in manager IMO is a must as for PL I would say some one has to make it clear to him what his job is and to keep to his job and not interfere with other aspects of the club that he really should leave alone.

20 Jan 2021 19:29:10
The Dubai trip was not a moral issue, so could be neither right nor wrong.

I am 100% confident that our club went ahead with the Dubai trip because they felt it was the best decision for the football club.

If I was in charge I would have made the exact same decision after weighing up the pros and cons. The fact one of our players contracted CV-19 while on the trip was just unfortunate.

20 Jan 2021 19:33:57
@the one and only. your missing the point if you think it was wrong or not don't post on a tweet were thousands of people in need have been helped by kindness of other people. thousands of people in need struggling and we have people on the post crying about a trip to dubai and having a poor season. 7 thousand people who were helped who are on the streets in that cold weather sleeping in a corner some were on the street now that's something to be upset about not a trip to dubai or your team not playing well. keep your moaning away from posts like that is all i am saying.

20 Jan 2021 19:34:44
It was wrong because we are in the midst of a C.V.
It was wrong because Dubai airport is a hub for flights from all over the world.
But for me it was most wrong, because the team goes and gets some warm weather training in 35° and then comes home and plays in near freezing conditions, would it not have been more sensible to stay in Scotland and train in the temperatures that you would be playing in.

{Ed007's Note - They've been doing the exact same trip for years now and nobody moaned about the temperature change when coming back, strange that 🤔 Sports people are flying all over the world because they are exempt from the normal rules so why single Celtic out for travelling on a government sanctioned trip?}

20 Jan 2021 19:37:41
The dictionary definition of wrong is either something that is (1) not true or (2) unjust, dishonest, or immoral. The Dubai trip did happen so it is true and it was not unjust, dishonest or immoral. We can argue all day wherever it was the wise but it evidently wasn’t wrong.

20 Jan 2021 19:49:58
Did any other football clubs from the UK or any other country saunter off to Dubai or for a week long training stint?

My opinion is that just because the rules state you can do something doesn't mean you go ahead and do it, for me it was morally unacceptable and really quite selfish to head off there. The club is supposed to set standards and be an example for all who follow them. It's like ed007 says the club likes to think it is a champions league club, when do they ever behave like one?
By the letter of the law was ok to go to Dubai = Yes
Should the club have went to Dubai = NO

In life you reap what you so and we as a club are paying the price both on and off the pitch for letting those standards drop.

{Ed007's Note - Is it morally acceptable to sign a known racist, to have a manager that threatens women with knives etc, what about having Tory lords on the board? Holding the Commonwealth games at Celtic Park?
Don't start me on the morals pish, there's no morals in football.}

20 Jan 2021 20:03:12
royjac your answer to that is yes. Spartak Moscow are in Dubai for there winter training camp. big VVD is there just now doing some training recovering from his injury the same place Celtic were at. VVD is there even though there has been a travel ban just recently.

{Ed007's Note - Let's wait until the EL starts again and see what rules are in place for travelling to and from Scotland.}

20 Jan 2021 20:11:21
@Tony

I do think it is time for a change of manager but believed the time to do it was in December. Now that the league has slipped further away, I am less anxious for a change and have resigned myself to the fact that 10 in a row is going to be very difficult from the current position.

With regards to PL I am certainly not his number one fan but I do like to base my opinions of fact when possible. I have seen no evidence that he interferes in footballing affairs so can't really comment on that one way or another.

I also agree that the season started off with high hopes but for one reason or another it has not been a great one, thus far. Quadruple treble aside, I have been disappointed.

All that being said, I stand by my original point. The pelters we are getting for the Dubai trip are driven by hatred and politics and dispraportiante to what actually happened. I also believe that this is the time we should round the wagons up and protect all those under attack and don't give our detractors what they crave.

20 Jan 2021 20:23:25
Ed I don't get why someone voted Tory or a member of the Tory party they can't be on the Celtic board? Am I missing something on this? To me its like Jock Stein could not get on the Celtic board because he was a prodestant if the story is correct.

{Ed007's Note - Really? I've never heard that about Jock Stein except from Rangers & then TRIFK fans, just shows you eh? If you don't see what's wrong with having a Tory Lord on the board then it's not my place to explain things to you, Tony. I suppose you and your dad were all excited to see Maggie Thatcher at the '88 Cup Final.
Tories and the people who vote for them are THE scum of the earth.}

20 Jan 2021 20:47:04
I never really thought about Maggie being at the cup final My dad and myself did not like Thatcher but never really bothered about her being there. As for Jock Stein as I said it was something I heard long ago and don't know if it's true or not. But I would never judge someone because they voted Tory to me that is their own opinion.

{Ed007's Note - Well you should, they're all scumbags.}

20 Jan 2021 22:25:37
Should the majority of people have deemed the Dubai trip as acceptable then there would not have been the outcry there has been, why would PL apologise. people seen as legends of the club would appear to agree too.
Being pedantic I suppose but there hopefully has been a lesson learned
I was in no way decrying the charity works carried out by anyone these individuals are angels, salt of the earth.

{Ed007's Note - Isn't our current manager Neil Francis Lennon seen as a legend? But it's all opinions opinions and white noise, the question remains - what did Celtic do wrong by going to Dubai? It's not a difficult question, the folk running football and the Scottish government deemed it acceptable, that's why they went.
What was the lesson learned, don't listen to the people making the rules? That's awfy Trumpish to me and a dangerous path to go down.}

20 Jan 2021 23:56:18
Ed007 it may not have been wrong to go but come on you have to surely agree it wasn't the smartest thing to do at that time, if it were me after the way the players have been underperforming I'd have had them down at murder hill on Gullane beach 😂.

{Ed007's Note - Celtic do a lot of things that I think aren't the smartest, the Dubai trip is merely a media driven mountain out of a molehill.}

20 Jan 2021 13:52:00
Afternoon Friends! Just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who wished my Mother well when i posted well before Christmas to let people know why i haven't been posting much recently. Just wanted to give an update that my mum is staying strong and it looks like the chemo is working. Its been a tough last 6 months or so but maybe some light at the end of the tunnel! I've tried my best to keep upto date with anything football related but by the looks of it there hasn't been much football played at all with the whole season so far being an embarrassment on and off the pitch. I've only managed to watch 3 or 4 games all season but by the looks of it its probs for the best! Hope everyone is doing well. Keep up the good work ED. HH.

20 Jan 2021 14:06:45
That’s great news Michael that your mum’s chemo is working. 🙏.

20 Jan 2021 14:20:51
Very best wishes Michael for a steady continued recovery.

20 Jan 2021 14:49:46
Michael

Great to see you on here again and to get some good news about your mum. You’ve not missed much apart from us arguing about everything and agreeing about nothing other than that we’re no happy. Whits new?

You take care and I’ll say one for Michael fae Dundee’s mum. God Bless. 🙏☘️.

20 Jan 2021 14:56:31
Great news on your mam Michael. Best wishes for the future.

20 Jan 2021 15:03:53
That's great news Michael. My prayers are with you and family.

20 Jan 2021 15:09:53
Hope things keep improving for your mum Michael, god bless 🙏.

20 Jan 2021 16:16:21
Great news and god bless Michael my friend.

20 Jan 2021 16:17:42
Hail Hail Michael and god Bless.

20 Jan 2021 17:13:32
Great news Michael. Please pass on our best wishes and tell her to hang in there.

20 Jan 2021 18:52:44
May God bless and give continued strength to your Mum Michael and all your family, stay strong.

20 Jan 2021 19:16:49
Glad your mother is on the mend.

Mine was hospitalised just before Christmas and got out last week so I sympathise buddy.

Stay strong and God bless for better times.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry to hear that Stubbsie, hope she's doing better now mate. And that's good news about your mum, Mikey Dundee 🙏

20 Jan 2021 08:10:27
I hope our game at Livingston gets the green light tonight after a couple of recent postponements at their ground.
Celtic could be playing them at the right time if they’ve got one eye on their Semi Final clash this weekend.

20 Jan 2021 10:11:27
wouldnt say this is the best time to face livy. They have won 6 of their last 7 with the draw coming against us.

20 Jan 2021 10:53:12
They are on form but we have far better players. If we turn up and are fully committed we will win. Time to win there no excuses.

20 Jan 2021 12:01:46
Wow how we have fallen. BB says we are playing livi at the right time as THEY have an eye on their semi. what a role reversal and sadly true.