Celtic Banter Archive August 20 2012

20 Aug 2012 23:17:11
Efe ambroise, connor wickham, and henrikson, along with big FF. Would ya be happy with that

20 Aug 2012 22:30:49
Haven't posted before and expect to get some peters for this. Are the senior people at Celtic more focused on personal bonuses than improving the team? I feared when rangers died Celtic would revert to form and become complacent again. So far it looks like they have. Sales of season tickets are falling (especially in the executive areas where the service is like in a community hall at 5 star restaurant prices - I know for a fact of 2 groups that are not renewing for this reason which amounts to nearly £25k alone). Failing to make an effort in recent years is costing the club money through falling season tickets, lost leagues, lost cups and lost revenue from Europe. Walter Smith's last 3 in a row with a poor squad was awful, and Celtic nearly blew it before Christmas last year and only rangers utter implosion saved us, lets not kid ourselves. This summer sums it up- do nothing, hope for the best and if we get humiliated again in qualifying cut back even more. Books need to be balanced and rangers offer an example of what can happen if financial management is foolish, but our downward fall is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy led from the top. If we make the CL it will be on the back of an extremely kind draw. Sorry, but this has come from years of frustration.

1. Celtic did not win the league because of rangers 'utter implosion', we won it because we were the better team with much more points.

2. WS did not have a poor team, a poor team compared to who ? Certainly not any other team in the SPL. Jelavic and Lafferty cost over £7m. We had Hooper and Stokes and £3m

3. Season tickets sales have fallen, have they ?

4. Celtic 'revert' to form. Their singing policy has been very clear for a good few season and has not changed this season. We do need a CB but have the SPL's top goal scorer in our team.

5. On the back of a very kind draw...explain ?

Mrs E

Think you'll find Celtic have won awards for executive matchday hospitality so hardly see the service being as bad as you say.

Cmilkbhoy

"Sales of season tickets are falling (especially in the executive areas where the service is like in a community hall at 5 star restaurant prices - I know for a fact of 2 groups that are not renewing for this reason which amounts to nearly £25k alone)"

for a start, these aren't season tickets, they're corporate boxes, bought by sponsors and companies. i also know 2 companies who haven't renewed due to the financial climate, but i also know of 3 who have bought in for the first time....these areas will ALWAYS be sold.
i can only assume you've either not been to any of the lounges, or are just used to an unbelievably high level of service if you think that they offer "community hall" service....i'm lucky enough to have been to countless match day events, weddings, birthday parties, and general nights out in all of the suites, and on every occasion i have experienced first class service and hospitality on a par with high class restaraunts and hotels throughout the world.

the club, it's shareholders, have entrusted the current board to lead the way forward, ensuring we never go down the road of financial ruin.....Lawell and co knew we had to get ourselves sorted out before the FFFP rules come into force, and we made an early start on this and have been following Ajax's ideology of unearthing raw talent and selling on for maximum profit a few years later....there is absolutely nothing wrong with this, we are a scottish club, playing in a poorly rated league with virtually no external income.....you tell us what your plan is? cos i know who i trust, and it aint pub talk, financial wizard, know-it-alls who leave no name!

Sorry, but this has come from years of exasperation


taco

I must say, my bro in law is a director with Caley. He used to suport rangers and still has a soft spot for them. He has been to hospitality to every team in the SPL, and he told me celtics was on a different level to any other...and believe me it was hard for him to say. So it must be pretty good. Markiebhoy.

Newco fan **** stirring it looks like,Celtic are leagues ahead of you on every front and are run within budget

Dannybhoy

Peter Lawwell, the best chief executive EVER to have been in charge of a Scottish club has never took any bonuses from Celtic. That's the difference between a club like ours and the zombies. To every single Sevco fan that visits this site, let me say one simple thing. Every single fibre of your being is JEALOUS. Wouldn't you LOVE to be in the position of sitting with 2 away goals waiting on the home leg? Any Zombie that says no is a LIAR. Your grandchildren will be Celtic fans.

20 Aug 2012 20:28:55
are celtic getting any sell on for ki? and now the debt has been almost cleared how much do you think lennon will get of cl fooball money if we qualify and thoughts edd ? hh ryanlarsson

20 Aug 2012 20:31:01
here ed how ur ye auld limpo?
its wee pat wae aheavy heert the nite ma son cos ma auld granda hiz jist died so a bit under the weva ! {Ed007's Note - Really sorry to hear that Pat. I hope you and the family are ok, God bless wee man.}

Sorry to hear of your loss Pat. Sincere condolences to you and your family. Mrs E x

Sorry to hear that Wee man. Hope all goes well for you.............green jhedi

Chin up pat.all the best.artybhoy

Sorry to hear of your loss pat, as a rangers fan I love reading your blogs or blugs, there's nothing worse than the news you've had, thoughts are with you and your family.

Cannonfodder

Condolences Pat. Sopot Celt

All the best wee man.Macca

All the best to you pat. from your other family. the celtic family...............bhoywonder

Sorry to hear about your loss pat.

Deepest sympathy

Marco1888

Condolences pat.. shamrock

Condolences

Vambo

Sorry for your loss pat and all the best wee man. paddy

Sorry Pat mate for your loss.YNWA.

Jungle Bhoy.

20 Aug 2012 19:05:08
Whats the deal with lennons statement just basically saying we're struggling with debt now that rangers fans have been saying to us watch what you wish for now Lennon has said that the ki money will help keep club afloat ? Wtf I'm bewildered now how can 7m worth a debt be so bad for a club our size so much for the old statement saying we need to sell to buy now were selling and not buying I'm wee bit angered with all this bullsh"" from our board ?

Chrissybhoy

For once im actually with the club on this one, I've always accused us of underspending but I really believe this time there isn't a lot of money there & it would be foolish to spend when we're guaranteed league for next few years anyway, agree we do need a ch & cf but get Rhodes etc out our heads it ain't gonna happen, don't need to look to far to see what overspending does do we? L1888

Look why are we getting 7 million for ki ?, answer because we invested in potential, if we stop buying potential we stagnate team wont move forward, fans will lose interest, simples

Well as it stands the CL money isnt for sure 120min will see if we can make the '10-15m' from CL group stages...

ki is a squad player for me,if it was between him and mccourt then mccourt then ki for me would be sold but hey.ki is good but like a man down when the team needs to dig in.ki wont be a big lost i dont think remember how big our wage bill is (think its around 34m PA) with no old firm games then we either need to sell players or make it to the CL.think we could hold out for more hence why swansea want the deal done in 24hours as i think others would start sniffing around.

out of our midfield im kind of glad it ki going and not ledley/brown/forrest etc

if we dont get a run in europe after christmas then it would be pointless signing a player on a big wage packet as its only the spl they would be playing in,bring up watt and a few others and just let rip.

also this talk of rhodes its all pee pee,again rayman on here made a cracking point why sign him for 6m or whatever when tony watt plays for us

sorry for the long post ed its been a while lol

lenny

I think nl and club are just keeping on the down low so as to not top there hand with any signings, think there might be some pipeline deals. We have to remember it is a new era for all spl and we should keep supporting as normal, it is just the start of the season and I'm sure they don't want to do any bad deals and be stuck with it all season. As well if we do use it to pay our debt then just think of the future because Im sure the coefficient points are low in the next few season and would be harder on us to get into cl, so maybe we would spend more next years to get in. But that's just on idea, I do think they are going to do something to keep fans excited with a signing and I still think that it is Rhodes, no matter how far off that may be with $ but that could be the pipeline deal.

Quite agree, why should we go spending money stupidly, I thought ki was ok but would not be my 1st pick every week, its annoying but just imagine being an arsenal supporter just now, that would be worse. jj

20 Aug 2012 18:22:01
Lennon has jist come out and claimed e doesnt expect to get any money from ki sale. Whats that all about, what happened to the money we were told was there without having to sell players. Looks like the board are taking us fans for a sale. Get your finger out lawell, we fans know there is money there, you cant pull the wool over our eyes

Celticthomas

20 Aug 2012 14:57:26
ED i really don't know if there is any truth in this but i overheard it in a pub, so i suppose it is a rumour. apparently the rangers ,sevco are planning to break from tradition. and are actually going to pay tax this year.. sounds a bit far fetched to me but i just thought i'd let you know ..shamrock

Sevco to pay tax?
Are you for real?
That's typical of the nonsense you hear in pubs these days!

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

They have been punished enough,expecting them to pay tax is going to far,garlar07

I demand to know the names of the people who are saying this........DH

Thats all drink talk,pay taxes! More chance of a visit from tooth fairy

Think you all should stop worrying about other teams. Just heard you are selling players to pay your clubs debt. No revenue from old firm games for a while, reduced TV money, the whole spl fan count on Saturday was less than that at Ibrox . You all voted out one of the biggest players in scottish football out so now you will pay the consequences. (for your information I do not follow rangers or celtic , but am involved in cross community football at junior level in N. Ireland. While Rangers needed to be punished , cutting your own noses off to spite your face was stupid. I would have taken every penny profit they made by putting in independant management (not administrators) paid off all their debts inc. HMRC, prosecuted the owners , players, managers and anyone else who was invoilved, and if required jailed them.
That way most clubs would be in a better finiancial situation. Please don't tell me you will all be as well off as last year. The only teams to benefit will be sfl3 and ironically , due to your idiotic decisions rangers/the rangers /sevco ar whatever you want to call them
Paul Belfast

20 Aug 2012 14:02:13
I cant believe Ki is leaving i love the guy, will always be a legend!

Legend ?? don't think so bud. he would be way way way down on my list of parkhead legends.. shamrock

The Lions,Mcgrory,Thomson,Mcgrain,Mcstay,Larsson .Thats what you call legends . Ki good player plenty potential which we won't see but legend your having a laugh ........DH

I'd welcome him back in couple of years when he's missing 50,000+ crowds and wishes he was playing Champions league football out of the UKs greatest city rather than that little Welsh village.

20 Aug 2012 13:11:47
Notice 2 (un-named) posts on Rumour Site re: Ki to Swansea for £5m + Dobbie? I hope this is Bumph as we can get a higher offer without a mediocre player.
If it's true; Surely the board don't expect the supporters to be happy with it?
Rhodes and Russell would go along way to solve the recurring, frustrations of missed chances in a lot of our games and give the team a huge lift.
A centre back is another requirement, however -
Stokes, Murphy and Bangura or A N Other could be sold or used to part-fund any deal plus the Ki money.....

Jungle Jim

Swansea held out to sell Allen for 15mill who has 4 caps . Ki has 47 caps played in a world cup so I don't believe this crap about 5 mill . I would think NL would have a say in this......DH

Asian young footballer of the year. Seasoned international and if we got him 6 months in champions league he could go at Xmas for £10m.

20 Aug 2012 11:20:50
read their page ... i told you they would be stupid enough to boast about the attendance., i don't know why green hires stewards he could keep them all in place with a black and white dug.. samrock

£2m owed in vat at 20%....

19 Aug 2012 23:31:48
I like Fraser Forster as a keeper but.......
while doing some stuff for upcoming Football Manager 2013 (yes I have no life!) noted that Artur "Holy Goalie" Boruc was a free agent...................just a thought!

Nope, Nope, Nope.

Not needed at all. Should never have left us, chased the money.

Linnie88

Never go back.it rarely works and arturs form had slipped at Celtic i thought...........green jhedi