Celtic Banter Archive April 20 2016

20 Apr 2016 23:20:06
What do you think of Michael laudrop I thought he had Swansea playing some great stuff?

20 Apr 2016 23:44:41
Yes I'd be happy with ml.

21 Apr 2016 00:55:51
Look at the rumours page. There is a thread on this and ED give some illuminating info on ML.

21 Apr 2016 17:31:25
Just shows you clearly ed knows his stuff last thing we need is a trouble maker. We need somebody to settle the ship and get us back playing decent football.

{Ed007's Note - (blush)

21 Apr 2016 20:54:14
Good point- ED, you got your badges? I'm up for being your number two if Lawwel let's you pick 😀.

{Ed007's Note - The only badges I've got get you arrested if you wear them to football.}

20 Apr 2016 22:19:34
Davie moyes will b our new manager. 100 percent sure of it. For me He fits the bill. Hail hail.

20 Apr 2016 23:00:28
I wouldn't mind if Moyes was the new manager. He looked a bit tactically naive at United but a stint in La Liga will have improved him as a manager. He done a really good job at Everton, finishing 4th, reaching an FA Cup final, all while having a relatively small budget in comparison to the top teams. His signings were particulary impressive, the likes of Coleman, Stones, Baines and Mirallas for 6mil or less. He'd be a good fit for us I think, similar CV/ experience as MON and GS when they took charge.

21 Apr 2016 09:28:11
Did moyes personally sign those players or even identify them or did someone at the club do it? Apart from one season where he finished fourth (was almost a decade ago if I remember right) he kept them mediocre at best, he's good about as much tactical intelligence as Ronny and looked like a fish out of water at both Man U and real. Plus he was under no pressure at Everton to be successful a cup here or there was success at Everton, I personally don't think he could deal with the demands of the fans or the board. And I know for sure if he got the job and failed to qualify for the cl people would be baying for blood already. We need someone to excite the fans not bore us to death. Plus he talks absolute bollocks.

20 Apr 2016 21:43:32
Would you be happy for WGS returning?

20 Apr 2016 21:55:03
Nope. Football was shocking.

20 Apr 2016 22:23:25
Lennon, Strachan, O'Neill all a step backwards in my opinion. They have played their part in our history let's leave it at that and go for the best we can. Roy Keane.

20 Apr 2016 20:54:16
Just another name to throw in alex neil of Norwich.

21 Apr 2016 08:47:19
Would he leave England thought?

20 Apr 2016 20:31:07
thank god rd is away, he had to go if he never walked we had to push him anyway . The jobs been to big for him from the start, he's had 2 years and everything has went backwards . the next manager has to clear out all the dead wood and start trying to build a squad we can all be proud of.

20 Apr 2016 21:07:47
I feel sorry for him as I reckon he could have had even more success if he had remained and he had much to offer us.

Anyway, I think it is unfair to lay all the blame at Deila's door as the players and senior management have not given him their full support.

20 Apr 2016 21:28:29
I don't get how people are still sticking up for rd, he picks the team and the tactics and he clearly can't motivate the players. the senior management have given him time and allowed him to bring in his own staff and he hasn't progressed the team in anyway.

20 Apr 2016 21:56:05
I don't believe Ronny wanted any of the players signed bar sviatchenko and ajer and my feeling was that the board were already feeling the anger from the support with how we were performing to allow him to start identifying his players so you have a manager with players who he doesn't want and players who don't want to play for him filling the rest of the squad with a small number who actually did want to play for him I think Ronny was hung out to dry by the board makes you wonder why he kept playing Johansen when he was clearly off form I hope Ronny moves on and does well I remember Celtic fans joking about how le guen was treated at ranger's Ronny may have got more time but same result in the end.

20 Apr 2016 21:57:28
It was clear the board never really trusted him from the start, a mean they picked his backroom team ffs. That lack of trust had to work it's way down to the players eventually. A feel sorry for Rd because he never stood a chance because of that. The next four to leave should be lawell Park Collins and Kennedy then we can look at who should be manager not head coach.

20 Apr 2016 22:09:15
add dermot desmond to your list steph and i would agree 100%.

20 Apr 2016 23:02:06
Its the same old story, some people think Ronnie has done nothing wrong, its all been somebody elses fault, Lawwell, the board, the supporters, if only Ronnie had the chance to pick his own team and set his own tactics and take the training the way he wanted it done, is a crying shame the guys been hung out to dry, what will the Ronnie worshippers fill the space in their lives with now?

20 Apr 2016 23:28:24
well I wouldn't say I was a worshipper but I just think he had a bad deal and got screwed over if your happy with him leaving and think all will be rosy then your deluded yes he was training the squad of players but if most of them don't want to play for you then you are on a hiding to nothing but I bet if it was larsson that it was happening to a lot more of you Ronny hater's would have been more patient.

20 Apr 2016 23:50:16
Berget remember him.

21 Apr 2016 00:27:44
Don't worship or hate Rd but I've wanted a change for ages. If u can't get the respect of the players u can't manage them, so best for all to move on. All I'm saying is he shouldn't leave alone. HH

21 Apr 2016 01:06:35
yep ran us ragged for malmo unfortunately he was unfit and on loan to us finally showed what he could do when he left.

21 Apr 2016 07:41:04
Don't hate Ronnie, but some people do seem to worship him in the sense that he can do no wrong and is above all critcism.

21 Apr 2016 08:23:53
Aindoh end of the day, with RD it wasnt to be. Never worked out but end of the day his stats were near enough on a par (win ratio) to Lennon yet he never got as much stick as RD. Wonder why.

20 Apr 2016 18:33:50
I suspect most on here have had the kind of last few days I have had with ex bear mates I had forgotten I had all coming out of the woodwork. Even had some of my so called " close ex bear pals" giving my private phone number to other zombies and we were getting phone calls at 2.am in the morning (I suppose given they are zombies that would be when they come out)
No class these "peepil" but they forgot one thing, I have given them a relatively easy time over the past 4 years, out of pity mostly, but Timalloy never forgets and these no marks will be best to remember we tims will always have the last laugh, gloat now ex bears because the "banter" is just beginning, you could not handle before and you'll not handle it now, LET THE FUN BEGIN.

20 Apr 2016 19:17:49
I must admit tim your mates must be the only bears that haven't had it tight, the onslaught for me has been ongoing with my best mates including the best man at my wedding givin it too me, i enjoy the banter i must admit and we both know what goes around comes around mate during a season👍 though when we win the league evwrybody better hide lol
Here's to next season and banter being back to normal.

20 Apr 2016 18:21:12
Good luck to ronny a very likeable guy but just not good enough I would hope that the support get behind him and the team for the remainder of the season . this is the time now for the board to show there ambition and what they are all about the last 4 years we had the comfort of being a 1 horse race now they are back and as much as I hate to say it they have a decent manager now we must show our strength .

20 Apr 2016 17:29:23
I think Marcelo beilsa or Rudi Garcia anyone?

20 Apr 2016 18:14:04
no way IMO of getting any of them but would be great if we could or would I think Parks will get it lol.

20 Apr 2016 18:12:18
There are some really good suggestions already. They're both good managers and I highlighted Garcia myself. Hey Ed, what's Garcia's English like? ;)

Problem is, will we stump up the cash? PL's next move is huge.

There's a lot of folk been granted their wish now. Trouble is, nobody knows the effect it will have.

{Ed007's Note - I'm sure I've seen him being interviewed in English.}

20 Apr 2016 14:51:14
Ed, now that Ronny is coming to the end of his tenure do you think it is a 'given' that Collins and Kennedy will also be looking elsewhere for employment next season or is there a chance either of them may be kept by our inept board due to their Celtic 'connection' or some other tenuous reason.

{Ed007's Note - I don't know what's going to happen but for me both of them have to go as well.}

20 Apr 2016 15:26:19
I do hope you're right Ed. It's hard to dislike Ronny as a person but it's rather easy to disapprove of what he has failed to do as manager. At least if we had a bit of fight and team spirit then maybe we wouldn't have lost to Sevco and surely it is the manager who is ultimately responsible for that part of the team. He did try, but his efforts just weren't up to the required standard.

20 Apr 2016 16:13:29
What about Big Isa Ed? Break my heart if she goes tae :-D.

{Ed007's Note - I don't see there being any change there unless she wants to leave. Medical staff don't necessarily change when the manager does.}

20 Apr 2016 17:19:10
edo if big isa diz go wid we call her "isa doolittle? "
sorry bhoays wee timbo made me say that.

{Ed007's Note - (punch)

20 Apr 2016 19:46:40
shut it judy.

20 Apr 2016 14:51:19
Hiddink.?

20 Apr 2016 15:36:06
Retiring at end of season

20 Apr 2016 18:37:17
Shame.

20 Apr 2016 13:53:12
I'm all for Roy Keane coming in as the new manager for a few reasons, he certainly will give a few players the boot up the arse they need and he will hopefully clear the decks and get rid of the deadwood at the club. I no he ain't everybody's cup of tea and I'm my opinion he could start driving Celtic forward with fight and passion. I also don't think he would be interested tho with the current set up unless he has overall say in all things to do with running the team, transfers ect. That could put PL, s nose out of joint. Could they work together I'm not sure either. Either way something has to change because if PL gets it wrong again he will have the fans baying for his blood even more and will most certainly be looking for a new job.

20 Apr 2016 15:40:12
Yes Keane could kick arsed but if you look at what the Sunderland and Ipswich Town playerso say about him that is nowhere near good enough.
Passion can only go so far.

20 Apr 2016 18:08:40
Lawwell knows that KEANE spells TROUBLE especially for him and unless Keane is forced upon him Lawwell won't have him near th place .
I will be shocked and amazed if our new manager isn't a Lawwell yes man .

20 Apr 2016 13:47:11
I think it will be DD who picks the next manager personally like he discovered with oneill and Strachan

20 Apr 2016 14:07:12
Thats a good shout mate.

20 Apr 2016 14:14:42
Did DD not want Hiddink when we appointed O'Neill or Strachan or am i mistaken and it was someone else.

20 Apr 2016 15:04:44
Hiddink was pretty much a done deal from what I've heard but DD changed his mind after speaking with MON.

20 Apr 2016 15:29:27
Thanks Kevbhoy.

20 Apr 2016 15:37:39
It was other way around.
Board had the contract all ready for hiddink and DD vetoed it

20 Apr 2016 13:05:33
Would love to see a manager that has a plan B during games. A man who can see when things aren't working and has the capabilites to change formation and personel during a game. A man that can spot the oppositions weaknesses and exploit them. The best recent example of this was Klopp against Dortmund, he made 3 subs switched things around and totally turned the game around. Unfortunately managers with this talent don't come cheap which counts us out. Oh well we can dream.

20 Apr 2016 13:55:33
I'm hoping that with dermot Desmond being at the game on Sunday and seeing how bad we've become and the unrest from the terraces especially the booing at half time that he changes the business model. That might be hopeful but not impossible. There are several names I think we should go for
1 Martin o'neill
2 Roy Keane
3 mick McCarthy
4 Michael o'neill
5 Gordon strachan

I would avoid any foreign appointments for now as we need a manager who can get aggression in to our play and I'm not sure we can afford to appoint someone who may need time to settle in to Scottish life. I think the names above would unite most fans where Lennon moyes mackay etc would see unrest in the support.

20 Apr 2016 16:28:13
Out of that 5 Strachan would be my choice.

20 Apr 2016 18:17:44
I hope we won't be picking from those five, there must be some young yet experienced candidates around.
At the end of the day a lot will be decided by the MSSM and our supporters who if they treat our new manager as R D may find difficulties.

20 Apr 2016 13:06:45
Several Celtic managers stats compare table

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20 Apr 2016 14:03:51
Good man.

You see RD is sitting alright when we're making comparisons to previous managers, looking and points and goals per game. But when it's mattered though we've fell short of my own personal demands this season.

As a club though we haven't moved forward at all. RD does have blame to shoulder, but he will be the only one who takes the bullet I bet.

20 Apr 2016 14:40:26
TBH I'm gutted it never worked out Jim and I don't think he's been any worse than what we've had in the last few years and those stats prove that but after Sunday he had to go. My fear is that we will go back and end up with Lennon.

20 Apr 2016 15:02:03
Same here bud. I wonder what exactly NL thinks has changed seeing him today basically declaring an interest.

20 Apr 2016 15:12:57
Had Lennon not had such a torrid time at Bolton (or had got work elsewhere) , I doubt he'd be whoring himself for the job.

I still believe he got a real shock when he found his stock wasn't as high as he thought following his time at Celtic.

20 Apr 2016 15:14:22
I think Lennon realised that the grass isn't always greener! He walked away saying he couldn't take us any further. Why would he even be considered? Considering fans were constantly on about him not being able to win important games I don't see how it would move us forward.

20 Apr 2016 15:14:26
Please correct if I'm wrong but was there not underlying issues when Lennon left specific around transfer budget and policy
Surely if he was to come back he would hold more bargaining power and maybe the transfer policy revisited and Jp less pivotal also maybe the biscuit tin opened ever so slightly
Still think moyes or Keane are going to be offered it wether they accept is another thing.

20 Apr 2016 16:16:23
Marco I was lead to believe there was discontent on NL's part with PL.

20 Apr 2016 18:23:21
There will be plenty of rumours going around, about people offered the job, whether or not these people get the chance or not .

20 Apr 2016 22:50:29
David moyes wants the job and wants a five year project and wants to be Celtic manager. The delay is in the job scope. I said it before and the source is sold

Watch this space.

20 Apr 2016 12:20:30
Thanks for your efforts Ronny but you just weren't the right fit for celtic

20 Apr 2016 11:53:33
Afternoon Ed, So that's it official

If you were to pin a name on his replacement who would it be mate?

Not a chance Moyes or Rodgers for me due to the overall "package"

I cannot see NL getting it again

So I agree with you that PL will need to make a popular appointment but he will also need to get it right this time round!

Am thinking WGS back with Mark McGhee as his assistant I think WGS was among the Celtic party on Sunday would that be right? (y)

{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't want any of the names mentioned except Roy Keane. And that's just because he's Roy Keane - oh and he might sign James McClean which would be nice :=D
Strachan was at Hampden as a guest of the club but there were a few other old acquaintances there because DD had flew in for the match.}

20 Apr 2016 12:26:23
Think big be big think small be small.

20 Apr 2016 11:57:06
Whoever comes in, will they be judged on Europe, cups, league in this first season?

Zombies are back does this have impact?

Is CL qualification a must for a new manager?

Will the fans back him if we don't achieve this?

I think this a tough ask after the performance of many of our squad this year.

Bring in Roy Aitken in some capacity.

{Ed007's Note - The support have shown that CL qualification is a must and any failure will be met with immediate calls for him to go. I've said for months the toxic support and the media have set the bar that high that the job has become a poisoned chalice, all the demands made on RD have to be made of the next man. It could come back and bite a few people on the bum when they try to rally the troops during any difficult times ahead.}

20 Apr 2016 11:51:12
Well I can't say I am suprised with Delia going, I am also not afraid to say I am happy recently attending Celtic games has felt like a chore and I have been questioning my season ticket.

But it wasnt Delias fault if anyone has read Roy Keanes book it sounds like the plan was always Keane manager with Delia ass manager but he stepped up when Ireland made Keane an ultimatium.

Keane was very positive about Celtic in that chapter and said its the right job just wrong time, with Keane having spent 2 years learning under O'Neill and playing a key role in helping Ireland qualify for the Euros I can see our board going back in for him.

I think he would be a very good choice and he sounds very hungry to prove to everyone he can still cut it at the top level but he wouldn't be my first choice.

My preference for manager in order is:

1. Rodgers - plays an attacking style of football and could utilise the players we have and work wonders with Christie, Roberts, Allan.

2. Moyes - Will steady the ship and sort us out defensively, will make us hard to beat but we won't play free flowing attacking football but after 2 years of sh*te I would take that.

3. Keane - Passion and footballing brain, if anything a better version of Lennon.

I would rule out all talk of Lennon returning by the end of Lennons regime everyone was happy for him to go, I won't be renewing my season ticket to watch someone go sit in the dugout when we are getting beat.

20 Apr 2016 11:59:46
I just hope the players don't go into couldn't care less mode and we lose the league because of his departure being g announced early. Its easy for players and managers to down tools when changes like this are announced look at city's league form took nose dive OK they done surprisingly well in Europe. Sowho is it going to be my guess is lennon.

20 Apr 2016 12:13:13
dont matter mate, cause PL will still be here with the cheap option, i'd put ma mortgage on it being stubbs.

20 Apr 2016 10:49:49
Whats worrying is there's no word of that clown Collins going too.

20 Apr 2016 11:30:14
Probably new manager if PL stays.

20 Apr 2016 11:49:48
That would be the final straw for me, I would of liked to of seen him getting the bullet now and seen how team morale went between now and end of season.

20 Apr 2016 12:03:39
He's that arrogant he must fancy his chances of being next manager. Really hope the good that comes out of sundays fiasco is a total clearout. We've needed it for a long time.

20 Apr 2016 12:39:46
I'm a firm believer in that if a manager is sacked or 'leaves by mutual consent' then the management team must also be relieved.
After all they are part and parcel of the problem and should have the integrity and decency to fall on their swords for their failure.
It would not solve or improve our situation by 'promoting' Collins, who by all accounts was a disruptive and negative influence.
Roy Keane is exactly what the club needs to sort out the shite, chase the chumps and regain the passion and pride in the jersey.

{Ed007's Note - Perhaps Collins and Kennedy will be the next managers' assistants as well.}

20 Apr 2016 11:08:52
RD gone
Will PL follow?

20 Apr 2016 12:14:13
No chance, not unless he's forced to.

20 Apr 2016 11:02:04
Ronnie confirms he's leaving at end of season.

20 Apr 2016 11:27:57
It was untenable after Sunday (if not before) but I'm still gutted it didn't work, simply because, as I have said before, I don't think he was ever on an even playing field. Our club is a shambles from top to bottom and desperately needs an overhaul. He had his ideas and methods, but sadly it hasn't worked - or wasn't allowed to work.

Hopefully the new man gets the tools required - although I'm not holding my breath.

I see Lennon has already declared an interest. Shocker.

20 Apr 2016 10:32:43
I'm probably living in lala land but does anybody think Rodgers would be a good appointment as manager? Done a fantastic job at Swansea and nearly won the league with Liverpool and would have no problem working with the Academy. Granted he did waste a lot of money at Liverpool (if he had final say in transfers)

20 Apr 2016 02:31:21
Anyone heard of a walkout this weekend on the 67th min in protest to the way the clubs being ran?

20 Apr 2016 07:52:46
We fans have to do something to show this board how we all feel. Some posters on here accused me of criticising without doing anything about it.
Well as I am of a certain age, I prefer writing letters (no emails, twitter etc for me) so I have written 3 letters, one to Peter Lawwell, one to Ian Bankier and One to Dermot Desmond, I am not daft enough to think this will make an ounce of difference, or even if they get to the people concerned, but if every fan did something like this, either phone, email, text, twitter or write letters to the people in charge, maybe they will then listen, as they cannot ignore us all.
I hope there is a peaceful protest at the game targeting Pedro, Bankier, Desmond and Deila.

20 Apr 2016 08:37:18
If there is going to be a walk out the most effective day to do this would be trophy day (if we win it) last home game of the season just before trophy presentation .This would make the National news and Pedro would be squirming, his wee party ruined and would put the message across that only winning a one horse race is not acceptable.

20 Apr 2016 08:56:31
The best way is an organised boycott of all season tickets untill PL is removed. Got a feeling if PL stays in power, we will see a manager appointed who has a good proven reputation in an attempt to get fans back on side. Apart from Strachan, PL has never got it right in terms of appointing a manager.

20 Apr 2016 09:50:07
i have emailed the liaison officer twice telling him i will not be renewing unless the club have confirmed their stance on deila before deadline day.
if he stays i won't be going back. if he's gone, whoever they choose will get my backing.
he hasn't replied yet, even though he has replied when I've emailed about other concerns (like stewarding at matches.
im fed up arguing with other fans online about how bad he's doing. apparently taking off the green goggles and being able to see what's actually happening and then criticising isn't supporting the team. its these idiots that are standing by and allowing this downward spiral. to which THEY win the league in the next two years (more than likely next year) .

20 Apr 2016 09:56:29
Something has to be done and i hope there is more banners etc slating the Board it's what they deserve. One thing they don't deserve is more of our cash. I'd take a banner myself but i chose to stay away at the start of the season and i'm glad i did. Surely the support is not going to buy into this failed model again this summer!? Stop giving your cash to these people they do not care about you and they prove it season after season. DD and PL have no long term plan nothing to take us forward just a miserable case of downsizing every summer with the excuse of well look what happened to Rangers. Just incase the wounds are healing. We got humiliated by the Zombies! Think about it.

20 Apr 2016 10:10:00
Also Managers and Players are shown the door for not performing so the same should apply to PL etc. We should have been winning trebles every season since the death of Rangers so they have failed. Time to remove them.

20 Apr 2016 10:26:13
Anybody that does a planned walkout when we are still playing for the title needs their head examined.

20 Apr 2016 11:39:35
Cmcbhoy how do you work that one out? So have we the fans to sit back and act like nothings wrong? Action needs to be taken and walking out is a great way to get something done! Its a showing of unity, that together we are not taking anymore of PL and his disastrous running of club! Not even winning the league is going to soften the pain we are going through.

20 Apr 2016 12:02:25
So you stage a walkout while we're playing for the title? You're mad DN. Do it if or when the leagues won.

20 Apr 2016 12:25:38
But then you are projecting the impression everything is okay and DD will think everything will be okay as long as we win league. Then guess what? Nothing changes! Back to normal! So i guess I am mad for not having tunnel vision and seeing bigger picture.

20 Apr 2016 12:47:03
So if there's a walkout and it has an impact on the way the players are playing and we lose the game which effectively loses us the league and 5iar, would you say it was a good idea?