Celtic Banter Archive September 01 2020

01 Sep 2020 21:43:13
McCarthy on his way on loan for the season.

01 Sep 2020 22:05:30
If he's fit then he could be excellent. Raises more questions about Broony if it happens. HH.

01 Sep 2020 22:30:39
One sick-note goes out, one sick-note comes in; balance in the universe is maintained.

01 Sep 2020 22:59:40
Mick?

01 Sep 2020 23:17:27
Loan to buy hopefully, if he can stay fit great signing.

02 Sep 2020 00:34:17
any truth to it though? He's another one like Roberts that's linked every window.

02 Sep 2020 07:55:52
Well if McCarthy does come in, I wonder which one of Christie, McGregor, Ntcham or Turnbull won't be getting much game time.

02 Sep 2020 10:03:01
For years McCarthy was injury prone. However, he seems to have put his injury nightmare behind him as he played a large number of games last season.

With that being said, if this is an option I would be over the moon to see him sign for us.

01 Sep 2020 17:45:28
Ed 007 hope thing's are good at your end with you and yours and the dug. I also hope you're fears about Edouard leaving are unfounded. That being said we can't let his contract run down with that kind of money up for losing unless the sell on clause is ridiculous in which case we'd be as well taking the hit. PL too bright to sign up to 40% I think nobody had heard of Edouard.

{Ed007's Note - We're all good mate thanks. I hope you and the family are doing well and keeping safe.}

01 Sep 2020 23:22:00
Even if he doesn't sign extension must be kept, another good season will start a bidding war.

01 Sep 2020 16:28:33
Ed, with PL always looking to balance the books and considering we have spent some money so far and probably more to come, who do you think could be sold and what about rough valuations.

{Ed007's Note - I think Ntcham will leave for about £20 million and I'm not confident that Edouard will still be a Celtic player when the window closes for anything between £30 - £40 million.}

01 Sep 2020 17:13:25
Oh wow that is concerning Ed. And there was me thinking Ajer was most likely to leave. Turnball coming in helps with Nchamp potentially leaving and it is an area we are strong with Soro, Robertson and even Henderson who could come good, but I hope celtic have a back up plan for if Eddie does get snapped up. Stop panicking Mark, aren't Celtic always prepared! 🤣.

{Ed007's Note - It seems that it's only AC Milan that have so far shown any concrete interest in Ajer and according to Ed002 there's some big problems behind the scene there. Probably as the window goes on there will other clubs who will make their move but I don't think they will be the level Ajer and his agent expect. I think they are rather upset that Leicester haven't made any serious inroads in signing him but I'd say it'll be lower level EPL teams that are going to be the most interested, his erratic form hasn't helped impress any potential suitors so they might see what else is out there before committing. I'd say there's as much chance of Ajer leaving as there is of him staying the way things stand.}

01 Sep 2020 17:16:41
I think the same players.
Celtic could accept £10 million for Ntcham.
And between £30 to £40 million for Edouard.
We could also get £4 million for Rogic and another £5 million for Dembele going to the EPL.

01 Sep 2020 17:20:20
I think ajer also may go with duffy and a "project" coming in.
For Turnbull coming in someone will go and i think your right about ntcham.
We are still ment to be in the market for a striker hopefully however that doesn't mean eddy will be away. possibly more like klimala on loan.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah, John I think we'll see a young project CB brought in as well, maybe a loan from City or PSG?}

01 Sep 2020 17:27:37
Ed has Tom Rogic deal gone cold?
Is it true that Eddy has a 40% psg sell on? Really could never see PL agreeing to anything near that.

{Ed007's Note - Rogic is apparently over there finalising the deal mate. Read down the page and there's a thread about Edouard sell on - just ignore the @rse I made of the maths though 🤬😋

01 Sep 2020 18:04:18
Not a chance of getting 20million for Ntcham imo. 10-13m tops.
Think he will go along with Ajer for around a similar fee.
Edoard will go if someone offers £30m plus as the club can't afford to not sell if he isn't going to sign a new deal.

Rumours of C Mac to leicester, don't think we would need to do this one.

01 Sep 2020 17:49:03
It’s been reported that Southampton have dropped their interest in Ntcham.
Porto and Lyon are still interested.

01 Sep 2020 18:26:31
You've changed your tune on Edouard, Ed. The longer he goes without extending his deal the more likely we are to punt him and I can't see him extending after us getting papped out of the CL.

01 Sep 2020 18:20:58
So moving on, including duffy, what is everyone's first 11.
Ed does duffy play better in a 3 or a 4.

{Ed007's Note - From what I've seen of him he'll be comfortable in either.}

01 Sep 2020 18:46:13
Even if we hadn't crashed out against Ferencvaros, there was still another qualifying hurdle, all the while the 'window' was ticking away and PL was always going to sanction a big departure - some on here were adamant he was staying, but it's an unfortunate pattern, these past few seasons.

01 Sep 2020 18:58:47
So can I assume Stephen Welsh can't be that project player?

{Ed007's Note - I thought we'd have seen Welsh on the bench more but Lennon seems to prefer Bitton, maybe because of his versatility to play CB or in midfield.}

01 Sep 2020 19:01:07
Ed
What would the difference be in transfer money. To keep him and punt next season. Selling your best player's every season to cover up a poor manager's mess is soul destroying.

{Ed007's Note - Hhhmmmm I'd say it would be about £20m tops next summer for Edouard.}

01 Sep 2020 19:41:04
The new deal snag im told is about the terms upon which eddy can talk to other clubs and also the trigger value. Celtic want 35m apparently written in and rules around timing . Celtic are offering 45k per week with a clause around both parties having to agree mutually with any deal within the next 2 transfer windows . this gives celtic leverage and an element of control . a 4 tear deal. eddy will sign but wants free reign over who and when with a minimum value of 30m with the 1st transfer window permitted ( with no Celtic consent ) . celtic think they'll get 12 months out of him as his plan is to woat it out for a marseille or a Monaco or a lyon . or top 10 in EPL ( the likes. pf Everton and Leicester and west ham)

There is a stalemate and because of that, celtic are in a real bind

Eddy is calling the shots and ironically wants a new deal but with a more lucrative contract Celtic want some control over triggers and timings

If they don't break the stalemate. he meeds to go now but eddy won't just go anywhere

There is a trust issue with PL also . watch for this news.

{Ed002's Note - Someone has been teasing you. Sorry.}

01 Sep 2020 21:46:40
Lubo I must admit if someone told me the same, I would believe them.
I don’t think it’s too unrealistic.

01 Sep 2020 15:10:27
Neil Lennon handled this poorly. We all agree. The players need to look at themselves too. We as fans are not able to contribute as usual. Double frustration when we see things going in the wrong direction. Understandable. This year is still important. Starting tomorrow. Let’s get the ten done and more.

01 Sep 2020 13:03:57
ED are we nearer Duffy coming in with international break or will it be afterwards?

{Ed007's Note - Duffy should be announced over the next couple of days if everything goes to plan.}

01 Sep 2020 13:47:53
Hope so ireland due to fly tonight possibly would maybe be cutting it fine for medical etc.

{Ed007's Note - The rumours are that he'll do his medical today.}

01 Sep 2020 14:15:43
Cool do medical and let's see.

01 Sep 2020 15:11:42
The Daily Record are stating the deal has been finalised.

01 Sep 2020 11:33:06
It’s been confirmed.
Our game in hand away to St. Mirren will be
Played on Wednesday 16th September @ 7.45 pm.
Celtic could go top of the league after our home game against Livingston on the 19th September.
Even if it’s only for 24 hours.
It will show Celtic are getting closer, considering we could have been 11 points behind a couple of weeks ago.

01 Sep 2020 11:43:50
great news mate.

01 Sep 2020 12:21:28
Hopefully gets us back on track no mention of the ss game.

01 Sep 2020 11:19:30
Couldn't see Duffy at Ireland's training hope he's at paradise dpi the deal.

01 Sep 2020 07:53:42
Rock and a hard place in going for the 10 season. Sack Lennon and who replaces? If Lennon is sacked and someone comes in then it would need to be a huge manager. Sacking Lennon would plunge the club further into the mire. Players who ‘agitated’ before would see it as further opportunity to engineer a move away.
Duffy coming in gives Lennon the option to drop Brown on to the bench more. You need a Lion in the team. Who apart from Duffy or Brown would be that way in the team? Don’t see a Broony replacement yet coming through. Lennon is putting in a second spine if you like with Barkas, Duffalo, Turnbull and Ajeti. You could argue that Barkas is in both ‘spines’. Either way at end of season Lennon is away. Either in glory or shame. Europa League is our level until Lawwell is out in my opinion. Our success has been tremendous over the last decade or so. Sometimes we need to take the rough with the smooth. We as fans are addicted to winning like this team so when it goes wrong there is a big downer. Selection was wrong for Ferencvaros which I accept but some managers use stats to pick teams I think rather than faith so what do you do. Good youth prospects coming through. Still in Europe. Still going for the ten. We got Turnbull in and re-inforced up front. Let’s see where we are in a few weeks and try to stay positive Bhoys and Ghirls.

01 Sep 2020 12:03:16
Giving NL the job was a backwards step. He done well to steady the ship and deliver the league and the cup but should have been thanked and let go at the end of the season. His game management, selections and tactics are baffling at times. I still have faith that he will deliver the 10 but only because Gerrard is equally as bad at the above. We done well in the Europa and realistically that is our level but in 2 seasons NL's decisions have cost us to be knocked out on 3 occasions. All 3 could have been avoided.

01 Sep 2020 12:29:00
I can understand fans wanting a better and maybe bigger name than Lennon as manager. But I think they just think its a case of saying 'right let's bring on a high profile manager! '. where is this better standard manager coming from? Is there one out there that would genuinely come and work with a team in the SPL. A bit like we accept that top players will never come to celtic (unless at the very beginning or end of their careers) , top managers won't be interested either. NL is our level and unless the board take a drastic change of direction it will remain that way. The rat was a one of.

{Ed007's Note - Regarding who would take the job, Markie, you'll never know the answer until you ask the question but Moyes would have taken the job and Lawwell & the board knew it. Lawwell never even bothered looking elsewhere though which is a dereliction of his duties imo. The cheap option yes-man Lennon was always getting the job after Steve Clarke said he wasn't interested in it.
I've said it before a hundred times, Celtic and a large section of the support like to portray that are a big Club but the board very rarely do anything to warrant that claim and the support just lap it up without question and are happy to settle for anything the board throw at them.
Where's the ambition to progress as a Club, where's our long term plan to improve that other "big" clubs have? If the board (and a lot of the support) are happy enough just to be the big fish in the small pond that is Scottish football they should come out and tell us that.
Losing to Cluj and Ferencvaros are a bigger embarrassment than being pumped by PSG or Barca, would we have lost those two qualifiers with Moyes in charge?}

01 Sep 2020 13:26:18
i do not think moyes is that great a manager ed007. he did well with Everton. but since then he has not done much did he not get Sunderland relegated. every job he has been in since he left Everton he has only really lasted a year. he did save west ham from relegation when they brought him in but i think if we were going to to be pushing the boat and aim better then Lennon i would like to see better than Moyes. before you ask mate i do not know who would be better just Moyes does not excite me.

{Ed007's Note - Moyes doesn't excite me either but he's head and shoulders above Lennon on every level and would have been a massive step up from him. At least the standards throughout the Club would have been kept at Rodgers' level regarding the general professionalism, training & coaching and the team would be well drilled tactically and with set pieces etc.
Would you take Rafa Benitez remembering he was relegated with Newcastle?}

01 Sep 2020 16:19:28
i see what you mean mate but i just don't get that buzzing feeling when i hear Moyes if you get me. i would have rafa in a second mate but i think rafa was brought in it was march and was only about 10 games left moyes was brought in at start of season with Sunderland. im a lenny fan mate but i think come end of season he will go and i hope the board do what you say and push the boat out and have a right good go at Europe.

{Ed007's Note - I sound like a broken record saying it but we know we're never going to be challenging in the business end of the European competitions but we should be qualifying for the CL every year - if the Play-off Round draw is kind to us of course, that can be a potential banana skin - and then we should be aiming for 2nd or at the very least 3rd place to drop into the EL. European football after Christmas should be seen as an essential for the money we spend on wages and even transfer fees.
Losing to Cluj, Copenhagen and the Hungarian mob is completely unacceptable imo and there are no excuses for them. Considering we beat Lazio home & away then flopped to a Danish team must raise questions about the preparation towards games against these so called "smaller" clubs, does Lennon and maybe even some of the players think they just have to turn up and they'll win? Do they see them as no better than SPFL opposition and we can gamble with tactics and selection against them?
Lets's be honest here - with the risk of setting off Aindoh lol - but Scott Brown might get away with his 35-year old legs swaggering about in the league but when it comes to the CL & EL he really doesn't have the legs for it anymore, for me Brown shouldn't be near our European starting teams, bring him on if/when the games done and we need to slow things down & keep possession for the last 15 or 20 minutes, that's all we had to do against Cluj last summer, once Christie had scored all we needed to do was shut up shop to see the game out.}

01 Sep 2020 17:29:29
Not great to hear regards NL and his team preparation etc. I have always been on the fence regards NL as a manager but after this latest debacle and reading some of the Eds comments on things like corners which really do just look like he's throwing bodies in the box and hoping for the best, I am definitely worried! Like you UI Moyes doesn't particularly excite me as a manager but if he would do a better job than NL then we are in trouble this year. The ambition of the board is letting celtic down dramatically. If we lose Eddy this window and don't replace him and spend some of the money on other areas of the squad to help offset his loss, then 10iar might not happen.

01 Sep 2020 18:26:06
I totally agree on brown ed007 he should be sitting certain games out this season. he offers a lot in leadership terms but age is not on his side. I know what you mean with champions league we should be making those groups what happens in the groups is another matter to much money involved with the so CALLED big teams. I can remember the O'Neil days no matter who it was I always thought we were winning and most of the time wee did I want that back.
Markie I'm not worried mate I think we will win the league I'm calm I'm disappointed about last week result but calm not worried I would like to see a bit more in Europe now a good run in the Europa league into the last 8 or something.