Celtic Banter Archive March 01 2016

01 Mar 2016 21:47:30
Looks like our new rivals can start planning for the spl let's hope celtic get the finger out and up there overall performance standards on and off the pitch.

{Ed007's Note - Sounds like you can't wait, Paddy.}

01 Mar 2016 22:02:30
Well I wouldn't say that but what I do hope is that were on a higher level by then if not I'll be worried.

{Ed007's Note - I've just seen their score, was it a good game?}

01 Mar 2016 22:18:01
Dunno was it on tv? raging a missed it won't sleep tonight.

{Ed007's Note - I don't know, you're the one talking about them. I assumed you must have been watching and hoping, just so that you can come on here and use an insignificant second division match to have a pop at the CFC manager.
I doubt RD will be missing any sleep over it.}

01 Mar 2016 22:32:31
Emm RD think you assumed that one ed read back.

01 Mar 2016 22:58:05
It was only raith rovers paddy a wouldn't be losing sleep over it! a wouldn't be rushing to the bookies to bet Rangers for the league next season.

02 Mar 2016 07:53:30
Paddymaguire its obvious that if RD hailed from the emerald isle, he would do no wrong in your eyes. Although he made a mess of it against Hamilton, come May his record will still be better than Lennons.

02 Mar 2016 09:14:37
I was just stating that they will be back and celtic need to get the finger out I didn't mention RD as for Lennon he bought almost an entire team after Mowbray and came close things like this can happen in Scotland celtic need to be ready imo which I'm entitled to.

02 Mar 2016 10:35:04
DN30 what is it you've got against Neil Lennon? A terrific player for us and a decent manager who was Celtic through and through. You seem to bring his name up a lot.

02 Mar 2016 11:57:56
HenriksTongue its nothing personal towards him. Yes he was a good player for us, that's where it ends. I bring subject up as a point, that there are a segment of supporters who overlook all his failings because he fits the profile they crave, yet slate Deila who has done better in his first 2 seasons than Lennon did.

02 Mar 2016 12:09:37
Once again dn30 I didn't mention RD you mentioned Lennon.

02 Mar 2016 12:17:25
The two are not comparable as Lennon had to compete with a financially doped up rangers, while the Celtic Ronnie took over were light years ahead of any of there league rivals financially, I totally advocated Lennon's departure, I thought we could get a better manager but we didn't we got a trainee manager who is far worse, my bad .

02 Mar 2016 12:17:25
The two are not comparable as Lennon had to compete with a financially doped up rangers, while the Celtic Ronnie took over were light years ahead of any of there league rivals financially, I totally advocated Lennon's departure, I thought we could get a better manager but we didn't we got a trainee manager who is far worse, my bad .

02 Mar 2016 13:30:13
Ronny is the managerial equivalent of Carlton Cole, he was brought in for one reason and one reason only, he was cheap.
I don't know on what basis people keep saying he has a better record than Lennon's, but from what I see, the standard of football is poor and seems to be getting worse, he can't motivate the team, he's tactically poor, he's turned us into a laughing stock in Europe, we're struggling to win the league in a one horse race, and because of all this the crowds are staying away in their droves.
Under Lennon, the team improved every season apart from maybe the last one, under Ronny we are getting worse every season.
I think that you only have to look at the drop in attendances since Ronny has been in charge to get an idea who most fans think is the better manager.

02 Mar 2016 13:31:41
Why the argumentive nature of posts . Paddy is a worrier by nature . If he was a Sevco supporter, he would be worrying if they had enough money to see out the season and would they fold like their predecessors .

02 Mar 2016 13:33:40
Dn30 please tell us where is the Celtic supporters who want Lennon back or were sad at him leaving? You say you have nothing against Lennon but continually use him in a negative manner. Any manager who wins the league or gets results above our standard (Barcelona) surely deserves a little recognition even Ronny has had praise from me when he started to get good results and performances at turn of last year. People want Ronny out because this season has undeniably been way below expectation even though we might win a double. If your barometer of success is winning the spl fair enough but I and many want better considering we pay a lot of money to watch them.

02 Mar 2016 14:50:50
DN Ronny wasn't even a good player for us lol.
Will be interesting one day if u can actually post about anything without mentioning your great friend Lennon or being Celtic minded.
It amazes me you go on about others being celtic minded or their background so much when its only you that brings it up.

02 Mar 2016 18:40:58
Oldbhoy the current way celtic are going it is hard not to worry pumped in every big match I can think of in the last 2 years and I take no pleasure in saying that wake up.

02 Mar 2016 19:33:09
I don't care how and where u get your pleasure . Everyman for himself Patrick.

01 Mar 2016 11:54:57
Quick question. If Ronnie turns it around, gets his own stamp on the team, clears out the dross and gives us entertaining football. Will all you fans that want him out eat your words and applaud him or will you stamp your feet and fold your arms like a spoilt child or will you continue to look for negativity?

It's becoming a bit of a joke reading some of your posts slating RD for any reason you can find.

Yes the performances have been yoyoing all season and players have dipped in form, but I can't see it as bad as you do. It's almost cringe worthy knowing there are fans willing the team to lose so RD can get the boot or sulking because we actually played well.

I'm enjoying the battle with Aberdeen and I'm also enjoying teams trying to attack us rather than lying down and taking a hiding.

Is it not more boring to watch us win league after league after league with no competition?

01 Mar 2016 12:20:20
Quick answer top rig, we won't need to eat our words because it won't happen! And another question, will u come back on here when Ronnie makes another mess of CL qualifacation at his 4th time of asking and show such blind faith? Let's hope u don't need to and he's out the door at the end of the season!

01 Mar 2016 13:05:12
Lennon messed up his first 3 attempts at Europe and succeeded on the 4th attempt.

01 Mar 2016 13:05:35
I've never met a fan who wants Celtic to lose so they can make a point. I don't know if you know any. You mention the dross in the team. Please could you clarify who is the dross in your opinion and who was in charge when they signed. Please also while we are at it could you name some successful rd signings. I have Jason denayer so far. And the style of football you mention is his style so maybe you have answered your own question there. Yes if he gives us entertaining football a lot more people will be happy. But as you said he would have to turn things round for that to happen so you must think the football being played is rotten as well. Do you? The quality on show on Friday night was worrying we have fallen so far back. And it's a lot to do with rd and his signings and his football. So yes if he changes his own style and entertains and yes if after 23 signings he finally starts to get things right I will be a happy fan. You say it's becoming a joke reading people slating rd I think it's an even bigger joke that people who support a club can't have an opinion on there own manager without being called a non supporter. Some people see rd as this great saviour because he talks a good game. Well I am judging on what I am seeing and lot of if it is rank rotten. And that's a lot to do with rd. Nothing personal just the way I see things.

01 Mar 2016 13:21:59
Toprig I've backed him from start, however his tactics were a major error against Hamilton. Scott Allan is no winger. He is not even good enough to be on bench and i won't be surprised if he is away at end of season.

Dont know what Deila was thinking playing a second string team against Hamilton, as it is very close at top and the slating he has received (a lot of it unjust) you would think he would want to guarantee a win, easing the pressure on him.

The grass is not always greener and god knows who will be brought in if he goes. One things for sure unless we unite and out Lawwell then it will most certainly be another whipping boy.

01 Mar 2016 13:24:18
If Ronny had a track record in the game, I could maybe understand all this blind optimism about him.
Ronny has been here nearly 2 years now, in my opinion the standard of football we're playing is getting worse all the time, how long can we keep hoping that next season will be better?
Some people seem to see something in him that I can't see, and judging by the falling attendances many others can't see either.
Having a challenger for the title is fine if Aberdeen had come up to the level we were at a couple of seasons ago, but the title race is close because our standards have dropped, that isn't exiting, it's worrying.
Aberdeen could have put us under real pressure if they had won matches after we'd dropped points, we shouldn't be relying on them dropping points.
If this decline is not halted, then in a couple of seasons we won't be winning the league, can you imagine the hurt if Rangers move ahead of us.
I think we have to stop kidding ourselves that it can't happen, and do something to make sure it doesn't happen, I'm not sure that having blind faith in a manager who has no pedigree, and has done very little in his time here, is the way to go about it.

01 Mar 2016 13:49:32
This rubbish about fans wanting Celtic beat to get Ronnie out is just more smoke and mirrors from the ostriches who blindly support him, no one cares about his background, it's all about the way we play and winning game's that's the reality, if we were playing well winning semi finals, beating our closest rivals and not getting papped out of Europe without winning a single game, the entire Celtic support would be happy as Larry, fact is we are doing none of these things . This is not personal, it's for the good of the club we all love, Ronnie is not up to the job, every statistic points to that being a fact . P. s. I don't give a toss about past managers records, Ronnie is the only manager in the last 20 -30 years without rangers financial doping to compete against .

01 Mar 2016 15:12:23
We are not fans of Delia, Lennon, Mowbray, Strachan or any other Celtic manager, past present or future. We support Celtic FC.
It's all about what we see on the park from the players who are so fortunate enough to do what we all dream about.
Players and managers come and go and some fail miserably, while others live on in the memory, or even achieve legendary status.
There is a standard and expectation that most of us harbour and if the performances do not achieve that level, then the manager, players and directors are usually criticised and if the levels do not improve and the football on show is not attracting or maintaining support then it usually means changes and the next manager and players chosen to improve the situation will get the same support, time and scrutiny and so on.
There have been better and worse managers than RD in all my 50 odd years watching and supporting Celtic and they get credit for success and criticism for failure and they fully understand that this comes with the job.

01 Mar 2016 15:57:58
Big time, I'd love to be wrong, you have to call it as you see it though and be honest. It doesn't mean we hate him or have anything against - anyone that thinks that should sort themselves out! It's ok to have different opinions/ change your opinions - that's how life works! This season though has been a living hell, I keep saying it, but out a squad of about 30 players we have 2/ 3 who have been good, the rest have been average or completely rotten! If you can justify that you're a better man than me!

01 Mar 2016 18:19:20
Toprig in answer to your question my answer is yes, I would be delighted if he does all the things you propose. I want us to dominate Scotland for the next decade! play exciting football and compete well in Europe at least every couple of years.

I would also like to say that some of the language people use is not helpful, I am not a Ronny hater, in fact I would love him to excel but I do hate the state of the team at the moment I hate how poor and drab our performances are.

My problem is that in the time he has been here I haven't seen anything at all which suggest he can achieve what you propose.

01 Mar 2016 21:33:46
Neither is Stuart Armstrong DN30 and RD has played him there since he signed and is in serious danger of ruining Stuart's Celtic career IMO, time's up for RD I'm afraid .

01 Mar 2016 22:06:38
Fed up reading all the negative crap so going to give the site a miss for a while and watch and support my team.

02 Mar 2016 04:35:56
The thing is this site reflects what's on the park, not the other way around.

02 Mar 2016 12:01:36
Drewzybhoy the harsh reality is we don't have any wingers of significance at club. Armstrong is a CM and IMO would do a far better job than Johansen. I agree Deila time is up.

02 Mar 2016 13:48:35
I would love to know, all the many fans that are definite that R D 's tactics are wrong and that R D is playing players out of position, I wonder have these "fans" managed at highest level.
Dn30 says Scott Allan is no winger and who am I to argue? However S A wasn't played as a winger against Hamilton, nor in any other game I can recall.
Scott Allen was played in a 3 men attacking midfield role . Our full backs play more as wingers than S A. Our attacking players are given licence to roam .

01 Mar 2016 10:45:09
I for one am not a huge fan of RD but like everyone else on here is a supporter of Celtic FC. Whether we like it or not we are in a race for the title, what I'd like to see is "The champions league fans" or the ones that turn up for the cup finals all flock back to Celtic Park for the remaining games of the season and help this faltering team over the line. It could maybe just give the lads the lift they are needing seeing a packed out stadium.

01 Mar 2016 12:36:52
I agree the attendances have been poor recently for a number of reasons I. e price, quality of football played and also opposition being poor but I would bet that if we drew New rangers the missing fans would reappear.

02 Mar 2016 07:59:38
Maybe what celtic should do is to set ticket prices in accordance to how the team are doing. Ie if we are playing rotten then cheaper tickets and if we are playing great then normal prices resume. That will bring the stay at homes back.

02 Mar 2016 13:54:14
Before the financial boom in late 1990's and early mid naughties our attendance was high 25k to 30k . We may or may not fall to that level again . Over-all attendance size is based on multi reasons, possibly mostly football but not exclusive .

01 Mar 2016 09:07:06
Poetic patient following our discussion at the weekend I wonder if you have seen the quote from Scott Allan

"I was slow of the Mark on the wing". "I thought I played better in the second half when I WAS MOVED inside. Clearly he was unaware he was playing in the PIRLO role as you imagine, and was labouring under the impression he was to play on the wing. I suggest you reexamine that point you believe was proved.

01 Mar 2016 11:17:49
I never said Pirlo played on the wing. You either know that, and are deliberately misrepresenting me, or you genuinely don't and can't read. Either way, there is little to no reason to engage on it with you.

But, for clarity sake as I know you're struggling:

The wing is a part of the pitch. A winger is a detailed and specific position a player undertakes.

So you can stand on the wing, you can run down the wing, and you can even at on the wing. But that doesn't mean you are a winger.

I don't expect you to get this as you continually prove your inability to read.

01 Mar 2016 19:06:54
Come come poet, your excruciating desire to be correct is clouding your solid (alleged) judgement of the game

Thank you for your description of the rudimentary aspects of the football pitch and positional play. I suspect a more sophisticated analysis won't be forthcoming.

let me be clear for you, In my initial post I started RD should not have played Allen as a winger. You intervened with some spurious claim that he was actually playing a role that makalele and pirlo played. I suspect this interjection was driven by a need to exhibit your greater expertise and knowledge of football. That failed.

As a last resort you cling to semantics. I didn't say you said Pirlo played on the wing in fact the opposite is true. You said Scott Allen was playing the position Pirlo and Makalele played. this is of course complete balderdash and the phrase hoisted on your own petard seems apt.


Remember the great and not so great wingers you have seen, jinky, gento beckham, John Robertson Arthur graham, Stan Matthews. they all had different styles, some would beat a man down the line, some would go inside, others would try to get to the bye line while some would favour cutting inside or crossing early. They were described and defined by their position on the pitch.

Certainly Allen believed he was deployed on the wing and waited until he was moved inside as a tactical switch following the sending off.

I think it is you who can't get it, you really should try though as clinging desperately to a flawed narrative makes you look foolish and boorish.

01 Mar 2016 22:01:15
I didn't say that at all. Go back and read it. There's no point in going over any of this- you either can't read, or refuse to.

01 Mar 2016 22:53:43
No more of this nonsense from either of us

love and peace brother.