Celtic Banter Archive July 01 2017

 

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01 Jul 2017 22:33:53
Yeah we can't read in to it too much. But one concern is that we had such a fab season, we will face defeat at some time. It's normal and human. Also like so many teams when you get a new signing or new manager you very often hit the ground running and gives a massive boost.

I do feel we are buying into this in Brendan we trust thing. It makes him seem flawless. No person or manager or player is. It's not a criticism, or sevcompnian, I am purely being logical guys. I just feel that possibly the team well over performed last season, and that just maybe outer team do need more to it than we or he thinks. If we still perform like this weeks down the line then I think we do have a problem. Well in Europe.

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01 Jul 2017 23:21:54
Sometimes we tend to forget what pre - season is about . Well two things, one is working the hell out of players 3 times per day and giving them some match practice. During the season manager doesn't even have a full training session the day before the match . So it is no wonder players were a bit leg weary today and not fully mentally in tune . If they were B R would be afraid of the long term consequences as it would appear that he wasn't working players hard enough.

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02 Jul 2017 00:26:02
These games are nothing more than over blown training exercises, and a chance to give the manager an insight into the fitness levels of the players, I think a defeat or two at this stage will be more beneficial in the long run, it will focus the players minds on the fact they will have to work to achieve a victory and not sit back and think they will win anyway because they are playing a smaller team and after all they are the invincible, pride comes before a fall.

and I am sure Brendan will have that drummed into them before they play Linfield, if Linfield qualify, or the San Marino team, sorry, no disrespect meant, but I can't remember their name, I think the team from last year without Roberts, but with Hayes, who I expect to do really well, and another quality squad member addition, will exceed everyone's expectations in the Champions league,

I don't think there is any chance of going through this coming season undefeated, I think we will get beat by the team at the bottom of the league, the Saturday after getting our best European result for years, unless we go undefeated in Europe as well, going undefeated in Scotland, is meaningless, apart from showing the team applied itself really well.

it doesn't really say much about the quality of the team or the football it played, but if Brendan can keep the team together and keep the team spirit going, it wouldn't surprise in the least, if Celtic go undefeated in Europe, stranger things have happened.

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02 Jul 2017 11:22:24
Mick, celtic have never done that great in pre season games the scoreline means nothing as long as its not a right doing. its about getting the fitness right and trying new formations. its only 2 games in and btw they still haven't been beat calm down.

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02 Jul 2017 15:26:03
You are spot on mate, I agree with you. pre season it's crazy as they are hard at it all year round. I train in a different sporting discipline to football, and the training is more physically taxing on the body. I think people get the wrong impression of me mate, is a die hard Tim, a just for my back up at few comment which I felt were of a personal ilk bud, so was naturally on wind up. Anyway, I agree that we can't look into friendlies pre season etc, how do we all feel when we are first back form a break. We can't be arsed at first.

It is true Brendan is the Celtic manager for a reason, and we aren't. Just like warren gatlin is lions man. He too got flak. But we need to trust those at he helm. Who am I to judge Brendan. The guy is clearly a genius at man management. and for me that is paramount. The rest ie fitness should and is down mostly to the individual. If we compare griffo at first to say brown, they work ethic is so far apart. Browns a well lubed machine Leigh gifted but lazy with his diet and fitness.

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02 Jul 2017 15:35:35
Bhoys i can't see Celtic having any problem with anyone in pre season. Remember its pre season for both teams. We won't lose any games but its not that important. We need to grt it right in CL qualifiers. I have 1 worry. Craig Gorden. He is past sell by date. Hope De Vires can kick on.

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02 Jul 2017 22:01:53
Is Bigmick81 who wrote the first post about Brendan the same poster as the one that wrote the fifth post ( I think ) . He seems to have changed his thinking quite a lot and now thinks mostly like myself.

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{Ed007's Note - That's pretty worrying.}

02 Jul 2017 23:46:42
De Vries, you are having a laugh, I hope.

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01 Jul 2017 20:05:23
Realise that it is only a friendly but the only bit I saw was that calamity between Gordon and Boyata for the pen and I was glad I was too busy too watch more. Boyata was a revelation in SPL in second half of season but doesn't inspire hopes for qualifiers with that kind of switch off.

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01 Jul 2017 20:17:48
Its only a pre-season game, doesn't mean anything and it's only our 2nd game.
These are all about fitness nothing more.

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01 Jul 2017 20:28:47
We cannot go into a CL campaign with boyata one our 1st choice centre halfs! Like I've said I'll give him massive credit for forcing his way back into the team last season but when we step up to that level he's an accident waiting to happen! I'm sure, in fact no I'm positive Brendan has his eye on a quality centre half to go with jozo! If he's not I'll be stunned! I never read to much into these friendlies, they'r fitness and getting in shape! I mind MON team got humped 6-2 off werder Bremen once, and he didn't do to bad for us lol! going forward but I would like a real quality centre back brought in!

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01 Jul 2017 21:33:42
The promised big signing MUST be a centre half. Jozo seems able to play at champions league level but Boyata and the Dane can't. Gordon's confidence will be so much higher with two good centre halfs. Anyone who's ever played in goal knows the difference that makes.

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01 Jul 2017 23:25:39
For God's how come some people's memories ate so poor . Before every successful season we have had our problems pre- season . Last season there were plenty panty - wetters on hers who wanted Brendan out and some continuous failure Moyes in. Far, far too early to be concerned.

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01 Jul 2017 23:30:09
Wise up, how come any of us are so expertise that we should think we have a right to tell Brendan how to do his job .
People who couldn't manage a darts team telling a proven Scottish treble winner and a manager who went through a whole domestic season unbeaten .
Jesus we are something.

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02 Jul 2017 00:51:35
So all of a sudden we break our record signing with a CB and drop a player that helped us go through the season unbeaten because a slack back pass in a meaning less game.
I would rather spend the money on a real quality keeper, if anybody is an accident waiting to happen it is Calamity Craig.

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02 Jul 2017 22:04:20
Pre season is a time a player needs to rebuild his confidence, poster on here don't help players with their confidence . Is that wise .

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02 Jul 2017 23:47:23
Chris there was no one on here wanting Rogers out. Who said that? No one is worried about pre season results what we are worried about is Gordon in goal in the CL. Will cost us a goal per game.

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03 Jul 2017 15:52:07
I think that the greatest ever petty setters could want B Rodgers out .
Neither should we want another Johanson on our hands . Johanson was shaping up to becoming a top class Celtic midfielder, player of the yr and then the grumblers got at him and he was glad to leave a club where he started so well.
It's Rodgers job to buy us a new keeper her centre half, if he thinks we need one . If he doesn't want to buy either then he has to build their confidence and good supporters could help .
Gordon had his passing and clearances working well last season, defenders and midfielders were taking up good positions and no doubt we will get back to that level this incoming season.

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01 Jul 2017 17:37:18
Guys it's a pre season friendly give it a rest eh it's our 2nd game ad b more worried by the time last game come around and it's not clicking but please stop with the negativity hh in Brendan we trust?

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01 Jul 2017 18:46:59
Correct, chill out!

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01 Jul 2017 19:56:34
I wouldn't get too worked up with these pre season friendlies. They are just training sessions designed to improve the players fitness.
Although I want us to win every match we play in, the only thing that matters is how we are playing when the competitive games start.
I would have thought that very few teams come back from their close season at the same level as they finished the previous campaign, so any rustiness we are showing is only normal.

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01 Jul 2017 22:05:11
some of us have been spoiled by the "Invincibles" run last season. This is the new build up and thankfully, at this point, we have kept the majority of that team.
Let Brendan get on with his job, he seems to have a good idea on what is needed.

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01 Jul 2017 16:56:55
I know it's a friendly and people say it's just for fitness but we go over here to try in part improve how we play on the continent. Memories are short and we were nearly knocked out by a team with a lower coefficient than st Johnston last season in beer shiva . Gordon needs to play much safer in European games and we need to still sort out how we deal with aerial threats. I mean no other team in the world apart from Celtic conceded more goals from crosses rather than open play . It's been years we've struggled with crossed balls. If we draw a team like Legia Warsaw it may aswell be a coin flip to who goes through people shouldn't be dissapointed if we end up in Europa league.

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01 Jul 2017 20:20:08
The team that played Beer Shiva last season is not a patch on the team that finished last season. We are miles ahead of where we were then.

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01 Jul 2017 16:28:43
Typical pre season friendly so far. Gordon's distribution woeful. Brown booked for f. a.

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01 Jul 2017 16:54:54
Yeah and another awful watch.

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01 Jul 2017 16:57:03
1-0 ht. gordon lucky not to be sent off gave away pen from a shocking boyata passback ( a few players guilty of that today) their player went round gordon Then overhit it but big Gordon stuck out his arm and their guy went down on a sight touch bit a touch nonetheless . it was our best period of the game too . not overrun by any means just less sharp than them and a bit rusty.

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01 Jul 2017 17:00:33
Well I think if there anyone on here who thinks boyata will do for the CL just have a look at how rapid scored there goal! A decent centre back is a priority! Said it before and I'll say it again, though he done pretty well coming back last season boyata is never the answer for us!

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01 Jul 2017 17:01:14
Leigh looks taller than their keeper but we haven't troubled him at all.

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01 Jul 2017 17:03:47
Where's Moussa at?

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01 Jul 2017 18:50:14
The best pre-season I can remember was when Tony Mowbray took over. Take from that what you will.

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01 Jul 2017 22:26:17
Hate pre season games but its got to be done. boyata our best player so far btw.

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01 Jul 2017 22:27:34
I think Gordon has passed the ball straight to them 3 times so far. Had a few decent stops tho, lucky to still be level, we've offered nothing going forward.

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01 Jul 2017 22:31:07
Did Ajer get a chance at centre back?, think he is worth it.

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01 Jul 2017 22:30:43
A bad pass back caused the goal. Best time to make a howler is in a friendly. A few moaning already need to get a grip. It's about getting fit and trying out different systems and giving the young players a game. A solid Centre Half will be brought in before the first qualifier and 2 or 3 quality players added.

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01 Jul 2017 23:35:15
We must be the best fans in the world at arguing our goal keeper should be sent off .
We were at it last season and we managed to get until half time in the 2nd meaningless pre- season friendly this yr . I am sure if a player mis- behaves Brendan sends him into a room to read what the fans say about him . In most cases it would soon take the players down a peg or two.

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01 Jul 2017 15:09:01
I must admit I am excited for the new season, I really think the quality in the league will be better.
As far as we are concerned I think there will be 1 quality signing no-one knows about yet and that will do me.
As for the others Aberdeen were looking to be weaker but have made some shrewd signings in Christie, Tansey, Stewart, with Maloney and May to poss come in.
There is goals in that side and I think they will be even better this season.
The new club well they have signed Alves who is quality assuming he has the legs and Jack who is decent but won't scare us, then there is the Pedros Pals signings and nobody knows if they any good or not.
Hearts and Hibs have made good signings too, and with the likes of Berra, Lafferty for Hearts and Efe for Hibs who I think will be a class act for them as he will be allowed the odd mistake they both looking stronger. Who knows Commons could end up there and I think Lennon with his contacts will produce a good signing.
So all in all a lot to look forward to and it will be nice to see other teams have a go and actually recognise some of the opposition players for a change.
Prediction for the league is the same as last season for top 3 in same order but not the same points difference.
I also think we will lose a game early on, not because I think anyone is better but just because that's how these things work out sometimes lol.

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01 Jul 2017 16:16:34
I think Hibs coming into the equation will just cause Aberdeen and Rangers to drop more points along the way. Difficult to see us going unbeaten again but I can't see anybody coming close to bridging a 30 point (at least) gap after one summer.

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01 Jul 2017 21:44:21
Rayman buddy, Lafferty a good signing no more wine gums for you mate :-)

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02 Jul 2017 13:16:05
Hangover has kicked after wine gums mate lol, I think Lafferty will do well for Hearts its about his level mate.

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01 Jul 2017 13:49:03
Realise it's just training scaenario for BR to assess his options but hope we skelp Rapid Vienna this avo.

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01 Jul 2017
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01 Jul 2017 11:12:53
WARNING A TIMALLOY HORSE TIP

1.50 Newcastle Moonraker 10/ 1
3.30 Newcastle Seymour 8/ 1
I am doing each way singles and double with sly who are paying 5 places and 6 places.

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01 Jul 2017 17:23:02
Yeah the last one you tipped came 14th out of 14 ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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01 Jul 2017 22:28:42
Well done Tim your double must of returned about 8 or 9/1 ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜.

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01 Jul 2017 00:39:02
Can we work out a system where griffiths and dembele can play in same team. I know griffiths ain't a winger but he can and dies score by cutting in from the right and shooting with his left foot.

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01 Jul 2017 08:23:11
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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01 Jul 2017 10:24:14
Yeah that's right - don't look to improve or anything, just stagnate.

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01 Jul 2017 10:26:12
Is there any reason you are so bloody condescending? Someone offers an opinion on the team and you consistently shoot them down.

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01 Jul 2017 10:42:13
Free role behind dembele and ahead of midfield . rogics role . he's more mobile than rogic . fitter than rogic. injured less than rogic. scores more than rogic. not a hater of Tom but that's the only position I can see we could get the best out of dembele and Griffiths in same line up Brendan likes. as you say I don't think he would be as effective as a winger .

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01 Jul 2017 12:53:13
DRB I been saying for months LG could play Rogic role, esp in the SPL we would score far more goals IMO.

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01 Jul 2017 16:17:20
We have a system that the gaffer and the team has worked hard to get right.
It was highly successful
Griffiths is a striker. A class one at that.
Why would anyone think it's a good idea to play him on the wing or any other position
How would that make us better?
Wouldn't it be a much better idea to buy player for the positions we need strengthening.
Playing players out of position takes away parts of their game.
Look at the difference in Armstrong when switched to his correct position
Lennon played Griffiths out wide and he never looked comfortable.

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01 Jul 2017 16:23:01
Deep river I do agree that Griffiths could play the rogic roll but do you think he might be to greedy with it because of his strikers instinct to to for goal most the time?

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01 Jul 2017 16:38:02
Two year ago I would have agreed kev but he has / still is maturing and improving as a player i think he could do it . br could employ a 352 in spl if moussa stays . as an aside rapid are far sharper here today and should be a few up.

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01 Jul 2017 16:38:44
griffiths in the 10 spot would be just like common's always taking a shot instead of passing to the forward (s)

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01 Jul 2017 16:56:33
DRB I just can't understand why anyone would change the system we play. We just went a whole season undefeated won a treble and score a a stack of goals.
Would changing a winning formula just to shoehorn a player in make us better?
I don't think so.
You get the best out of players in their best position
Griffiths is a striker play him there or not at all in my opinion.

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01 Jul 2017 17:56:15
Kev br likes players who can can adapt / adopt to different positions if lg can do that then it benefits the team.

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01 Jul 2017 18:26:42
Totally agree kev 1 or the other the system suits tho I never thought I'd say that. Rogic is far and away our best player in that position we were nowhere near as good last season when he was out.

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01 Jul 2017 22:23:00
I think Griffith's could play the same sort of role as Larson played when Sutton or Harrison were in the team, I think the best possible way is for Dembelle and Griffith's to play together, I expect Brendan to come around to my way of thinking sooner than later, Griffith's brings so much more to the team than only to be used as an out and out striker.

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01 Jul 2017 22:25:01
ive always said i just don't know why we can't just play the two of them as a partnership, if its good enough for henrik and sutton it will do for moussa and griff who would probably be even more prolific together than henrik and sutton, due to the griff's scoring ratio.

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01 Jul 2017 22:34:34
Keep your knickers on peeps Celts will be fine.

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01 Jul 2017 23:40:51
I think we should change it, so many can claim their expertise. B R has shown us a successful way . We should ditch that and maybe loan Brendan out for a yr and we can get a lackey in that will do what the fans want and show Brendan he isn't that clever.

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01 Jul 2017
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