Celtic Banter Archive February 01 2021

01 Feb 2021 22:05:52
This might be a bit of an unknown quantity but must say heard the Reading manager Paunovic getting interviewed earlier in the season and was all about the whole club rather than first eleven as in integrating every level to a single goal in my opinion came across really well. Have watched his side play and have been impressed at style of play he promotes, any thoughts.

01 Feb 2021 22:59:01
Every club tends to do that. whatever favoured formation the top team plays the levels below them follow suit it’s nothing new. only our problem this year is we have played over 35 different teams and formations due to multiple mitigating circumstances. like injuries . loss of form. C.V. cases. self isolating. plus personally some strange decisions by the coaching team? I’m actually quite excited about next season now as a summer of comings and going’s always gets the excitement levels up plus we can’t be any worse than this season. HH 🍀.

01 Feb 2021 23:49:03
Sorry, its identity was not meaning playing the same formation from boys club to first team Big P he conveyed it as in embracing everything which would build character, strength, humility being thankful for what they are and embracing the need to improve yourself which would be for the common good of the team, as I wrote hadn't heard much of him before but have been impressed.

01 Feb 2021 21:29:56
Hi Ed, I know a recent former players aunt very well. She was telling me that he was saying celtic were looking at youngster from arsenal? Any ideas?

{Ed007's Note - I don' know about a youngster but we hold an interest in Callum Chambers.}

01 Feb 2021 21:43:15
Aw well it could be that then.

01 Feb 2021 21:03:15
Anyone else coming in?

02 Feb 2021 02:53:59
Just couldn't get the two CB, 's over the line. Maybe if they started 30 days ago there might have been a chance. Or even before that. I might be wrong, but on my telly it's looked for a while our defence should be charged under the Trades Description Act. Might be my telly. They obviously know what they're doing.

01 Feb 2021 19:41:09
ED, so what's your heart telling you anybody else in other than Kenny? Obvs we are screaming for CB and keeper. Possibly a winger?

{Ed007's Note - The Club have obviously been trying to bring in a CB but as time goes on it's looking less likely. There is absolute zero chance of a 'keeper coming in and there's been no sign the Club have been looking at any.}

01 Feb 2021 19:58:39
We’ve just lost a keeper to Liverpool. Hughes, got to say I’ve never heard of him but if Liverpool are taking him on he must have something.

{Ed007's Note - Slippy tipped them off. 😉

01 Feb 2021 19:59:01
Oh well we move onto morra night with the same going forward can it get any worse?

{Ed007's Note - Aye, we could all wake up dead tomorrow.}

01 Feb 2021 20:21:08
Think that’s something only The Rangers fans have mastered Ed. 😂.

{Ed007's Note - It's the only thing they'll master.... 😉

01 Feb 2021 21:03:47
Have celtic announced kenny yet no news outlets have reported it?

{Ed007's Note -

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01 Feb 2021 19:10:32
Evening all, i was listening to Sportsound last night and Marvin Bartley was giving his thoughts on our predicament. He mentioned how highly he regarded Eddie Howe as a manager/ coach when he played under him, really endorsed him and mentioned how good training was under him and his man management skills.
Another name to put into the hat, David Wagner, i think he would be quite a good choice also.

01 Feb 2021 19:35:34
Can’t understand why Celtic fans listen to sport sound.

01 Feb 2021 20:10:01
Why shouldn't i?

01 Feb 2021 21:12:52
Because you shouldn’t be airing your dirty washing in public our thoughts should be kept among our own. We know what the MSSM think why would you want to discuss Celtic with them? Would you write to the moderator of the Church of Scotland and ask him what he thinks of the Pope?

01 Feb 2021 21:52:51
Who is airing their dirty washing in public? I listen to a radio program or other form of media. Then ask fellow fans on their opinion. What's peoples thoughts on David Wagner as a new manager, that's my question. Nothing else.

01 Feb 2021 18:16:03
Neil doesn't sound like a man that's going anywhere anytime soon. His comment as to why would he be considering his position now or in the summer and that PLs decision is nothing to do with him gets 11/ 10 for defiance.

01 Feb 2021 18:54:18
Serious question.

Is there a single Celtic supporter on here who would be happy for Lennon to be manager next season?

{Ed007's Note - I don't think you need to ask that, Del. All this will do is attract more abuse towards him.}

01 Feb 2021 18:58:48
Ed agreed 100% the main reason that the answer is no is because it would be unfair towards him. 👍.

{Ed007's Note - The online abuse of Lennon is out of order, JFP.}

01 Feb 2021 19:14:15
Ed I don’t have social media and don’t even want to know but if that’s the case total and utter wallopers irrespective of what’s happened this season. We’re all entitled to opinions but when it crosses the line into abuse it’s 100% unjustified and unjustifiable. He’s had enough of that over 20 years.

{Ed007's Note -

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01 Feb 2021 19:26:19
Very true JFP. some fans are out of order. We all know changed is needed.

01 Feb 2021 19:46:49
True and what else would you expect NL to say when asked if he's considering his own position?

The Hoff is class!

01 Feb 2021 19:51:08
JFP you should see some of the stuff that written online about him, seen a post with a picture of NL and Billy McNeil and the caption was "one is a legend and got sacked" was embarrassed for the person responsible as NL should always be regarded as a legend for what he has achieved and gone through personally at Celtic through both his playing and coaching career, his 2nd stint has been awful yes but some of the comments and abuse is shocking, I've tried to defend him at times with regards his status, but i get the usual. you're a hun, can tell by your name etc and all that kind of p#$h lol have to laugh at half of them.

{Ed007's Note - I was very vocally against Neil Lennon's appointment and took dog's abuse over it, I'm now deleting posts that come through from the same posters.}

01 Feb 2021 20:12:16
I don't really pay too much attention to other social media sites. This site is my only source for Celtic related chat/ info. I'll occasionally read the rags and gossip columns.

I ask it seriously as I question if I am missing something when I listen to him speak. My own opinion is that he has become deluded and I feel disappointed with myself for how I feel towards him when I used to hold him in high regard. As a human being I feel sad for him as I couldn't imagine doing a job where it seems I am not wanted.

I just wondered if other fans genuinely thought its not him, maybe its the players, the signings or maybe the excuses are legitimate re C.V., players application, the club being treated unfairly, no fans in stadium etc.

Is there a scenario where he remains head coach but has a director of football placed above him hence why he's not been sacked? I don't know. Something just doesn't feel natural about him still being there. Would Barnes, Mowbray or Deila have lasted this long? No chance.

I would never encourage abuse towards anyone, especially online. I had drawn the conclusion he wanted a payoff but I noticed Ed saying this was far off the mark on a post a few days ago. If he doesn't want a pay off and according to 99.9% of the fans, media etc he is out of a job already, why hasn't he walked? Surely he would walk away with a bit of respect and dignity still intact.

I feel like he doesn't really accept blame for any of this when I listen to him speak. It does antagonise me a bit.

I apologise if you think I tried to incite any abuse towards him. That was not the intention of my comment.

{Ed007's Note - Sorry Del I didn't meant to insinuate that was what you were trying to do at all. As I said the other day I think we can all agree that we want Lennon removed but do we need to keep repeating it day after day with more and more obscure made up reasons why and more and more abuse - personal and otherwise - aimed at him?

01 Feb 2021 21:15:37
No worries Ed, like I said something just doesn't add up with Lennon still being here. Maybe there is just no alternative or no alternative that will please fans at this moment in time.

{Ed007's Note - I honestly think that realistically if we get rid of Lennon now it would need to be Kennedy taking over. Who would even consider taking over for 4/5 months knowing the state of things behind the scenes? Maybe Lennon has agreed in private to tough it out and tow the party line until the summer rather than the rancid accusations that he's holding out for a pay-off. Lennon will get a pay-off no matter what happens and what's due in his contract - his NDA would be worth more than his salary.}

01 Feb 2021 16:08:31
Ed, where do I think we'll end up with in terms of a CB coming in? It's was well documented early this month a CB was needed due to the jullien situation yet here we are hours from a window closing and had a month to sort something and as of yet nothing. have u heard how this is coming along? Cheers Ed.

{Ed007's Note - The Club are obviously trying to get a CB in.}

01 Feb 2021 16:31:09
Gary we need to find a centre half (1) that’s better than we’ve got (2) we can afford and (3) wants to come. No easy task. We can’t currently offer what should be two of our major selling points playing in front of 60,000 and European football.

01 Feb 2021 16:48:14
Problem is trusting the present mabagement team with more money after the summer signings.

01 Feb 2021 17:12:32
I watched NL press conference. Its in youtube celtic tv NL seems not too bothered if we get in a CB said that looking but if not happy to go with what we have. That will be the case if we don't but NL was asked if his intentions are to get a CB in his answer was not convincing toward getting CB in which seems disappointing to me. Will see!

01 Feb 2021 17:18:09
I saw that and wondered if he was just unhappy at being asked blatantly obvious questions or he is going through the motions?

01 Feb 2021 17:37:55
Mally, I agree I’d be reluctant to send Lawell, Hammond and Lennon for a loaf but that fear needs to be balanced against the risk of not achieving second place and we badly need a centre half.

01 Feb 2021 17:53:41
Think he wants a player in for centre half, but bringing in kenny allows Ajer back to centre half.

01 Feb 2021 17:41:43
With NL its no his fault CB no coming in with the way NL was acting was like he was told by the club we will give u a RB and then that frees up Ajer for CB again you have plenty of CBs at your disposal so deal with it he seemed well pissed off.

01 Feb 2021 15:15:08
At least we have one good thing to look forward to after the window closes tonight Bhoys and Ghirls.
We won't have to put up with any more utter drivel from Hoops88, he only sticks his head up during a transfer window and then disappears again when it closes.

01 Feb 2021 15:23:03
I’d be more concerned about the drivel we’ll be continuing tae hear fae lennon based on his interview earlier today.

01 Feb 2021 15:33:34
Lol he's in a defiant mood. God only knows what he's seeing with his eyes. Purgotary probably feels like this the way we are at present.

01 Feb 2021 15:54:00
Our club is turning into a joke. lennon defiant and digging his heals in. transfer window a disaster again. no motivation no drive no respect for the fans any other manager would have been sacked by now. Desmond best have a really cracking replacement for lennon or season tickets will not be renewed.

01 Feb 2021 13:57:15
I wouldn't be so dismissive of Kennedy being giving a shot until end of season.

Gerrard left Liverpool youths to Rangers

Carlos Corberán Left Leeds youths to Huddersfield

Both aren't doing too bad at their clubs.


Now could be the perfect chance to see what he can do.
I would rather that than leaving Lennon in charge when it's clear as day he's lost the dressing room.

01 Feb 2021 14:31:58
Agree 100% that I'd rather Kennedy until the summer than Lennon purely to get rid of Lennon but not with a view to keeping him in the hotseat past that point. No chance the fans would stand for that.

01 Feb 2021 14:36:46
If he's that good what has he been doing for the last 4 months?

01 Feb 2021 14:56:18
We’ll never know how good a manager/ coach he could be until he’s giving a shot.

If it’s true that Rodgers wanted to take him ( I have no idea if that’s true) . Then the boy must have at least some good ideas 💡 n the way the game should be played and players coached.

Like I said before I’d rather take chance on Kennedy until end of season than leaving Lennon in Charge.

01 Feb 2021 15:15:24
If Kennedy is such a highly rated coach and some say he is, why has he (1) not been offered a role elsewhere before now and (2) why has he not been offered the role at Celtic?

He's managed to find himself in a very good position in recent years, when it's trophies and success he's an important part of the coaching team, but this season, when it's been a complete disaster, it's all on NL?

Ih he becomes the next manager and I think it's a very bad idea, I doubt it will be hard for those on the waiting list to get a season ticket.

{Ed007's Note - Kennedy has turned down the managers job at both Hibs & Dundee Utd jobs in recent times that I know of.}

01 Feb 2021 15:23:12
Kevbhoy, regarding your’e point about fans not standing for it. Surely this debacle that we are in at the minute with lennon still in a job shows that the board don’t give a damn what the fans think.

01 Feb 2021 15:27:08
Fair enough Ed on Hibs and Dundee Utd as I wasn't aware of that.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

01 Feb 2021 15:28:58
For me ED, if Kennedy is that highly thought of I think he made a mistake not taking a managerial job at hibs or Dundee Utd, or anywhere to be honest. Surely that would give him the day to day experience of being his own man and if he does well I’ve no doubt somewhere down the line once proved himself he’d take the Celtic job if and when offered.

{Ed007's Note - He's only 37, if he does leave I'd imagine he will have plenty of offers.}

01 Feb 2021 18:09:53
He also stayed at Celtic when Brendan wanted him at Leicester no?

{Ed007's Note - Yep.}

01 Feb 2021 13:49:27
Ed 007 - how many loan players are you allowed in a season?
If this kid from Everton joins I make that 4 we will have with. moi Duffy n laxalt the others!
Just wondering as it's probably looking like a central defender as well will be another loan cheers 🍀.

{Ed007's Note - SPFL club's are permitted to register a maximum of 6 players on loan at any one time plus any approved emergency goalkeeper. I agree about the CB being a loan 👍

01 Feb 2021 14:04:13
I don't think we will Ajer will be back to CB so that's Duffy Welsh Bitton so that's four there now do we still think we need one in? I would like a proper CB in stead of Bitton.

01 Feb 2021 14:37:59
Thanks Ed 👍.

{Ed007's Note - No probs

01 Feb 2021 10:00:52
I'm try to make since of this season and where it went wrong. Start of pre season LG returns to club unfit lennon slates him. Knocked out of champions league in the qualifying round. Lennon slates players by saying if players don't want to be here then leave.

big mistake by lennon slating players before season started. Boli breaks C.V. rules by travelling to spain. Lennon player will never play for club again. Lose the first old firm game. Start of our poor run for October and November. Changing formation and tactics. Unable to recognise we have no wingers.

Lennon constantly saying players need to improve and not match fit in November, fecking November and players not fit. Knocked out by Ross County in league Cup, first end of our trophy over haul. Beaten again in second old firm. Next day team off to trip to Dubia. C.V. case in the team and have to isolate and miss next two games. More points dropped.

And getting beaten again lennon slating the players saying they left me down. The signs are there that lennon lost the dressing room since he slated the players after champions league game. Not putting all the blame on lennon but if you were a player and your manager is consistently blaming the players after every defeat, would you play for him.

The team is now gone so bad with lennon It's gone beyond repair able with him in charge.

01 Feb 2021 10:47:59
As much as I’ve blamed Lennon. Lawell has a lot of responsibility for our downfall. He knew exactly what he was getting when he re-hired Lennon. Lennon is oldskool manager and not many of them are doing well in the Modern game now.

It disgusts me how much lawell was paid by us. Second highest ceo in uk at one point. Let that sink in, we don’t get 100m a season but we’re paying our ceo more than Chelsea Man City Spurs! Lawell arrogance ruined 10

We need a money man to work out how much budget the club can give to the football department. The football department man along with coaches/ manger etc decide how it gets spent. How hard can that be to sort out

Me personally, I’d push the boat out for a top sports director and bring in a young forward thinking coach. With a top dof Alex Neil is the man for me.

01 Feb 2021 09:29:23
Is Hatem Abd Elhamed still in the building?
I thought it was a cert that he was heading home to his family in this transfer window. HH.

01 Feb 2021 14:52:38
I must admit, i thought that he was going to turn out to be a good buy. (That’s why I don’t bet big)

01 Feb 2021 08:14:23
So the way I read it is, Davies agreed to sign with us on a pre-contract but hadn't committed as he may get other offers this window. So in theory we agreed terms and he was happy to sign for us. If we had agreed to pay a fee then pushed the deal through he would probably have been our player. Instead we lose out, again on someone who might just be the difference from winning or losing the Scottish Cup.

01 Feb 2021 08:47:24
It's been one 'blow' after another - with the exception of the Scottish Cup Final - and even that was a close call.
It's been many-a-year since we had such a disappointing, disjointed season and the killer is most of it has been our own fault; from Boardroom, through management and a number of the players. Epic Fail.

01 Feb 2021 09:18:18
To be fair what were the chances of Liverpool hijacking the deal. Also as Ed mentioned he would of had lots of offers he had agreed to and had a decision to make. Even if we had agreed a fee he could have decided to move elsewhere. We might get him on loan next season!

01 Feb 2021 09:24:47
Pretty much spot on lads. Davies is perfectly within his rights to provisionally agree a deal but not commit to it so we can't blame him for anything (not that you are Chinks! ) if we aren't prepared to make it definite by paying a fee for the lad. He's not a Celtic fan and he's probably not a Liverpool fan either so he'll make a career decision and if Anfield is calling then there is only one choice for him to make when you see how we have imploded. We do this all the time with transfers, we try to get them on the cheap and stand watching as other clubs say no, we then watch other clubs move in or other things to change elsewhere that stop signings from happening. If we've been watching him for months and our scouts and backroom teams have invested their time in doing so, as has been suggested, then we should have moved in swiftly and got the deal done. We have no-one to blame but ourselves. Again. And now we watch the season go from one disaster to another. HH.

01 Feb 2021 13:07:48
Brilliant post.