Celtic Banter Archive October 19 2020

 

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19 Oct 2020 22:20:48
How many players that NL has brought in including loans have worked out? I mean really worked. Honestly can't think of one and most are either no or unproven. Julien, Klimala, Boli (loaned out) and Soro cost around £15m and none of them are 1st team regulars. Then we bring in a £5m goalie who doesn't look much better than Bain. And none of our loan signings (meant to be short term fixes) appear to be doing what they say on the tin. In short NL transfer activity has been shocking. That alone says it all, if they are not his signings he must walk as he is a yes man, or if they are he walks for obvious reasons.

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20 Oct 2020 08:38:57
Enrico does not agree. Frimpong Ajeti brought back big Foster Elyounoussi was quality last season and will come good again. Laxalt all though was a tough game for him he looks as though he had something. Elhamed again another fine signing.

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20 Oct 2020 09:32:23
Remember reading on here that NL has little say in exactly who comes in personally as he just identifies positions required and that is the recruitment 'model' adopted by other clubs?

At the end of the day it's down to the manager to watch these players day to day, assess their strengths and/ or weaknesses, work on fitness set-pieces, positions and formations - then assemble his best team.

This formula seems to be flawed at Celtic with possible temperaments, Ego's, methods and objectives out of sync and that has caused bad feeling, low moral and even mutiny, with nobody functioning at 100%.

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19 Oct 2020 21:58:21
Milan top there league as is lille we never seem to get good draws unlike Rangers.

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19 Oct 2020 22:28:44
Should be a chance for us to test and express ourselves against quality opposition. Reality is not getting a doing will do.

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19 Oct 2020 23:32:06
God only knows how we will cope with Ibrahimovic the thought of him against that defence frightens the life out of me.

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20 Oct 2020 08:10:30
Let's hope he has a bad day at the office. Otherwise known as " let's hope he has an Ntcham"

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19 Oct 2020 21:39:59
You know how you can still sign players, who are out of contract, well is there not some ageing talented midfielder like Lubo was when we signed him, out there, you see I don't understand Scott Browns present role in the team, I know he is the captain, and I give a thumbs up to that, but what other duties does he have, is he the midfield enforcer?, who wins the ball, and passes it on to more creative teammate's, do we really need that type of player, yes, but I think everyone in the team should be an enforcer, trying to win the ball of the opposition, that was what impressed me about Moussa, he would be back in defence trying to win the ball back of the opposition, if we had a more creative player in Browns place, maybe we wouldn't need to win the ball back, because we would keep possession more.

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19 Oct 2020 21:52:15
I think its interesting to question roles

He isn't an enforcer
And he isn't creative
And he isn't terribly mobile, or at least isn't expected to be

Oddly enough many have said they we are loaded in midfield and that it is our strongest area of the park

I'm not so sure.

We have lots of midfielders

Sone overplayed
Some not played enough

And the majority off form

We have time ( not much) to re set and go again, but everyone has to bring something different as more of the same will bring the same outcome ( which we know isn't sufficient)

There was always going to be a transition and a changing of the guard. Personally, I don't think we have done too well with that but again we still have it all in front of us I guess

Interesting point though aindoh

Hail hail.

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19 Oct 2020 22:41:48
I think that young Robinson (spelling) , could be in Browns place, but I think he is out on loan now, I think he is a player, and should get in the first team when he comes back
I think it's an age thing, a growing old thing, when you start getting older, you don't feel it, if you are still fit, you can't accept it, that you are not as good as you used to be, even though you are a lot better than guys ten years younger, but you are not as good as the best guys ten years younger, so you can play alright against the lesser teams but when you come up against better than average players, your age starts to show, it's just a natural thing, but someone has to come and tell you, look it's time to take it easy for s while.

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20 Oct 2020 08:19:39
After the scott brown st j introduction NL ( stupidly in my view ) came out and snipped about brown doubters. He essentially said " this is proof " because brown came on and allegedly scored a double and set up two and dominated the ball with 5000 completed passes in 10 minutes

It's all very amateurish

Also, when NL plays to the galleries it does him o favours. again. its childish and amateurish

We deserve more maturity and more consistency from him

He needs a PR intervention
He needs a tactical re think
He needs to repair damaged reputation
He need to humble himself
He meeds to have a word with himself

He then needs to get those players around him that he trusts ( and those who respect him) and re set and go again.

But will there be 11 of them and will there be others forcing his hand

A fit motivated eddy will make a difference

Jullien and Duffy as a back 2 or Bitton in lieu of jullien

Ajer or elhamed at RB
Taylor left back

And toss a coin between bain and barkas

If we can get a back 4 and somehow stay in touch until eddy, griff, ajeti and foreest and johnstone are fighting fit so much the better.

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19 Oct 2020 21:00:33
Talylor didn’t start and Christie was out. They have 7 assists this season so far between them. Get them back in.

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{Ed007's Note - Didn't you get the memo, Taylor's gash and Frimpong is the a potential POTY because he can run fast.}

19 Oct 2020 21:56:00
Frimpong, no harm to the lhad but he has a long way to go and shouldn't be in the team

It's not fair on the player

He is fast, but we are looking for footballers with an intelligent in-game brain with good versatility

If he cannot defend, and has poor positional strength, poor passing and poor delivery, he has no business as a RB or a RWB. oh hiw standards have dropped

Deary me

Ps as long as he plays he will get my support but Frimpong is symptomatic of our current problems, overrated over played and inept in so many ways

Oh my days!

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19 Oct 2020 22:42:15
I think with Neil Lennon all our young players won't progress. It's not Lennon strengths.

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20 Oct 2020 08:46:37
Frimpong must be the only RB who is positioned as a forward when defending a corner?

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20 Oct 2020 09:03:26
While we were absolutely abysmal in every area of the park and deserved nothing from the game the single decision to play the much maligned Taylor and a back four could have been enough to avoid defeat in a game where we were already missing key players.

A draw would have been no big deal under the C.V. circumstances. Defeat for the third consecutive time however must put the same doubt in the players mind as is does in mine.

Does NL have the man management abilities to turn the players around after a physiologically damaging loss? Unsure.

We have for me the better players in practically every position but that won’t guarantee the 10. For me they have the advantage in the dugout not to the same extent but similar to what was the case when the rodent was in ours.

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20 Oct 2020 13:03:36
JFP, define better players in every position without relying on past performances. we are where we are today. did they not win because they had better players?

Ps good technical players are robbers unless they play with bite fight passion organisation togetherness etc etc etc.

And don't let the alleged transfer values fool you. that is a stitch up

Ntcham 15m
Ajer 20m
McGregor 25m
Christie 15m
Eddy 30 to 40m

It's a load of tripe

We need to get back to brilliant basics

Good organisation
In game discipline
Players supporting other players
Good communication
Prepared to go and win individual battles whatever the context

No?

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19 Oct 2020 20:28:06
Does anyone think the board have looked at any game this season or the last 3 Sevco games? I am beginning to think they haven't because surely if they had they would see that something is far wrong at the club and in such an important season complacency is the last thing we need on their part the decision on the park is just so bewildering out of the champions league playing a one off game with no striker was bad enough no more excuses let's have action PL.

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19 Oct 2020 21:57:44
Our board have egos as wide as the clyde

They clearly think that a deficient celtic and average management team will still be too good for a skint Rangers who always bottle it

They are mistaken in my humble opinion, but time will tell and I HOPE I am wrong about Rangers ability to sustain a challenge.

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20 Oct 2020 00:36:31
the board don't give a toss. they sold the highest amount of season books, the merchandise is flying of the shelf and guess what. next season whether we get the 10 or not, the sales will still be the same. we are being taken for mugs year in year out and the board fill their deep pockets with all our hard earned money.

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19 Oct 2020 18:46:52
Evening folks. Rumours of unrest seem to surface every time we get beat. Does anyone know of any

I've heard julien, dembele and the 4 want a way players are all unhappy and had fallout with lennon. Someone even mention that they think Lennon's had a fallout with the backroom staff.

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19 Oct 2020 20:29:57
Come on you honestly believe seasons of all seasons now would be the time to sack the manager. Lennon inherited unrest among some of the players from all the broken promises made from the rat players refusing to play players forcing transfers players fakeing injuries. Lennon inherited these issues he did not create them and I trust him to sort it out . ?

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20 Oct 2020 06:41:57
Bobo, he's had a year and a half to sort it.

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19 Oct 2020 18:45:15
Milan thu Aberdeen next let's see a massive improvement and dust down and go again.

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19 Oct 2020 21:21:14
And if these to games end in defeat there will be a melt down.

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19 Oct 2020 17:23:13
Okay, there might be a bit of brightness after the weekend. Forced myself to watch the game again, well selected bits i mean c'mon, and some things the media may have missed in promoting sevco to the status of PSG or Real.

We were poor, properly bad. But did they cut us to ribbons? Did they score five? Was Barkas diving everywhere blocking shots? NO to them all. The two goals were the same old story in big games now, switching off and not clearing your lines. Yes, they were more fluent and passed and moved well. They were organised, no surprise with the consistency of selection they have, and they defend, properly defend.

But two goals against a team with so many players out through various reasons is hardly a tanking. Sadly this makes it more irritating that we seemed timid and slow. So in conclusion, win the game in hand and be one behind, knowing we cannot be as bad again. Over to you Lenny.

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19 Oct 2020 18:10:44
A concern of mine green Jedi, would be we haven’t looked up for these games for the last 3/ 4 and have in all honesty been second best in all of them, even though we have sneaked the odd result against them.

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19 Oct 2020 18:51:01
I agree we were not 'hammered' or given a lesson - and at 1-0, I thought we could have got back into the game easily. However, the players didn't seem in the same frame of mind as myself and the effort and fight was sadly missing as we failed to compete again.
One bad performance is understandable, but to be honest, we have hardly seen the best of Celtic all season for one reason or another and it's worrying that we are not only so flat, but they have the beating of us at Celtic Park because they want it more than us.
Zero shots on target is atrocious for a Celtic team - against any team; far less in that game.

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19 Oct 2020 18:54:59
To me the biggest factor is we didn't even have a shot on target through the whole game at we were at home. We were owned, they destroyed us because they wanted it more, I think lennon has met his match and doesn't know how to beat Gerrard. It's not like it's the only game they have owned us the last few games. Our players don't seem to have the passion of theirs in these games they always seem right up for it and we don't look interested there is only so many times lennon can be forgiven. But it's getting worse now and something or somebody has to change. We pay there wages and they should be going all out to atleast try and win the game. That game was pathetic and its starting to be they way we are more and more it's becoming the norm. It has to stop or lennon has to go.

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19 Oct 2020 19:59:06
Greenjhedi . sevco didn't exactly need to stretch themselves either. hence 2-0?

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19 Oct 2020 20:21:18
Sorry jhedi but they have 2 blocked on the line due to players diving to prevent more goal. That's the reason it wasn't 4 or 5. Plus barkas wasn't blocking shot. It went under his arms for the first goal.

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{Ed007's Note - If Ajer or Duffy had scored their first goal would you say McGregor should have saved it? Barkas maybe should have done better but the defenders should have dealt with it first.}

19 Oct 2020 20:39:37
attitude they have got and bought players with the right attitude where we have a lot of cry babies and huffy french fancy's.

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19 Oct 2020 20:56:40
For me it’s simply shocking that we have allowed Sevco to even compete against us never mind outplay us as they have done in 4 games now.

It’s obvious to most something isn’t right and let’s be honest Lennon has previous with fallouts - he did comment on players wanting out only to backtrack days later - if he hasn’t lost the dressing room then there must be issues amongst the players.

Either way something needs changed soon before it’s too late. I can’t see another Sevco collapse and feel we must win the 3 remaining games against them if we are to win this league.

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19 Oct 2020 16:21:24
John (Johnny) Doyle, Celtic and Scotland winger, died at the age of 30 on this day in 1981. Never forgotten.

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19 Oct 2020 15:43:47
I think I saw a post from ed007 on this, the way to beat Rangers and we have done it before at Ibrox last year is 4-5-1 let them have the ball and drop off, deny them space and hit them on the break. It's the way to beat them with their 4-3-3.

First thing he needs to do is get everyone in and anyone not committed to the cause, anyone that isn't going to give their all for the Jersey or give their all for all of us has to be removed from the 1st team squad immediately regardless of who they are or who they think they are.
Only then can we move forward from this mess.

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19 Oct 2020 18:57:48
We need to drop everyone who played that game and put the young boys out. We will get more heart and fight out of the young boys than we do out the first team. To me it looks like the players are content along with the manager to just go through the motions. It has to stop or drop them all.

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19 Oct 2020 19:51:10
When you mention "anyone not committed to the cause, anyone that isn't going to give their all for the Jersey or give their all for all of us has to be removed"
That needs to start with the manager, the way he sits in the dug out with his arms crossed puts me in mind od Mowbray leaning against the dugout.
When things aren't going our way he seems clueless.
Even his interviews looks like he knows we aren't going to win this title and he seems disinterested.

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19 Oct 2020 20:05:32
Jonbhoy I do think NL should be out the door but it just isn't going to happen is it?
My post was more my opinion on what I would do to try and fix the mess he has created.
I've been thinking about it a lot and if you imagine the standard that most of these players have been used to when BR was around then NL comes in and starts eroding those standards wouldn't you be like wtf is this clown doing
I just can't see NL standards being anywhere near the standards BR set, he now looks confused as what to do. I hope I am wrong and he can fix it, I have my doubts though.

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19 Oct 2020 21:30:46
He hasn't a clue how to fix it, that has been proven over and over again.
People will say that we improved and won the league after Xmas last season but for me it was Rangers that blew it.
It was the same when BR walked out, Lennon himself said he wasn't going to change a thing and relay on Kennedy and Duffy who in my opinion should have been put in caretaker charge until the end of the season and we would still have won the treble, meanwhile the board could have done a proper search for a proper manager.
Lennon was brought in as a yes man and because he is PL's wee pal.
He is proving again just like he did in his first stint that he will continue to play his pals no matter how bad they play and I said when he came back that we would be lucky to win the 9 but he would definitely cost us the 10.

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19 Oct 2020 15:07:30
Just wondering if anyone knows what our training set up is? Do the players train every day? Twice day or is it a day on then day off?

Just wondering because a few players never seem to look fully fit and others always seem to be injured. Are some being over trained? Others not training hard enough?

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19 Oct 2020 15:45:15
Train for 30 minutes play a little bingo before a game to see who plays then get out the play station's.

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19 Oct 2020 18:58:57
After that performance I think they just sit and play the Ps4. They don't look like they do anything.

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19 Oct 2020 13:49:14
I'm prepared for the backlash, l think we have some really good players at the club, l know this may not be popular but l have recently wondered where we would be if our board had taken a punt on a young manager. Maybe even slippy?

I honestly think we would be more solid and a real threat going forward no matter the opposition. When you see how he has them playing a system that works, just a thought in light of recent performances. Last minute goals poor performances have just papered over the cracks, we have issues in the background me thinks.

Answers on a postcard 😗.

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19 Oct 2020 14:25:45
3-5-2 doesn't work against them. The way to beat 4-3-3 winger tactics is 4-4-2 playing through the middle and suffocating wings. Brown and McGregor playing in centre would not work, Soro would alongside McGregor. He is a box to box CM and from what I've seen on YouTube I can't understand why he is not getting a chance.

Nothing will change though while Lennon is at helm. No wonder so many youth players have either left or want to go whilst he is in charge. They obviously can't see a way into team, yet Welsh played due to injury and I personally think he was one of the better performers on the day.

Team needs major clear out starting with manager and some players such as Ajer and Ntcham. Brown will need to settle for sub bench, we need something different in middle of park and I think soro is the man.

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19 Oct 2020 19:01:09
I think soro would have been a good shout on sat he looks like a little buzz bomb of a player who would inject some urgency.

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19 Oct 2020 20:23:03
Marco I'm struggling to understand why he is not getting a game. Honestly looks the part.

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19 Oct 2020 21:05:42
It’s one of the many things Lennon does that infuriates me, he plays his favourites regardless

Brown is done - he was a great leader and still can be in a coaching role

Ntcham has quality but rarely ever displays it now

Forrest has got away with murder, when he had competition he was on fire but he’s gone back to his old ways

Other players are victims of being played out of position to accommodate others and that is wrong - starting on Thursday is like to see a formation and team picked and having it stuck with unless suspension and injury's state otherwise

4-3-1-2

Barkas

Frimpong Ajer Duffy or Jullien Laxalt

Cal Mac Turnbull Soro

Christie

Édouard Ajeti

This is what I’d like to see, full of energy and players in the right position.

No point in having wingers when we can’t cross a ball or beat a man.

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20 Oct 2020 00:47:35
kev t2,am sorry mate but after his non performance on saturday frimpong would never get a game for celtic again if i was in charge.

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20 Oct 2020 10:17:15
We have a good squad of players but we have a manager who still doesn't know his first starting 11 and what's the best system to play. I've heard all the fallout read all the sack the manager and board. It's always a sore one when we lose but at the weekend that was one of the worst Derby games I've saw. We will see the players reaction over the next few games. Keep the Faith we will come good win a quadruple treble,10 in a row and a quintuple treble all in 1 season.

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19 Oct 2020 13:40:33
I haven’t heard any rumours but wonder if Duff saw some things that he wasn’t happy about before deciding to leave.

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{Ed007's Note - It was Duff's wife and kids that wanted him home mate, they hadn't moved over here with him.}

19 Oct 2020 15:59:36
We have a Duff at the club if you take the Y off our centre half’s name, I honestly can’t see what all the fuss was about him he’s just awful.

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19 Oct 2020 17:51:02
I think a lot of it is too with the transfer being dragged out so long that most where just happy to eventually get him in. oh and he plays for the Republic, which seems to make him an automatic superstar.

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19 Oct 2020 19:02:43
Agreed I don't understand what all the buzz surrounding him was, he just looks average at best to me.

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19 Oct 2020 16:39:15
Hi Ed, i saw that his wife an kids hadn’t moved up with him. I take it that they decided that it wasn’t working. I just thought that maybe if he wasn’t happy about some things that it could have helped him make the decision. As i said, I hadn’t heard anything and was probably grasping at straws.

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{Ed007's Note - Nah It was just his family that made him leave, Duff was very happy in the job and is disappointed things didn't work out. I wouldn't rule him out returning at some point in the future - maybe when his kids are a bit older.}

20 Oct 2020 00:48:58
or when lennon gets the old heev ho.

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19 Oct 2020 13:34:54
The first change I would make to our starting 11 would be to drop Brown and play Ajer in the DCM role. Ajer is quick and very good with the ball at his feet and I think he would give us the dig we are clearly seriously lacking in there. its a position he played all through his academy years. we also need to have a look at the coaching and get to the bottom why a large section of our team are, at least in Lennon's opinion "not totally fit". it's constant and a real concern for me. I'd like to hear what you guys think on those points. HH.

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19 Oct 2020 18:44:17
Agree 100% shimmy hh.

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19 Oct 2020 11:30:34
I don't think the league will be won in these games. We're going to have to win nearly every single game to win the league. That was a really really shabby performance and that is what we signed up for when Lennon was brought in. Since his arrival there has been no consistency in our games. How can we go from topping a europa league group to getting beat off mediocre European opposition and effectively dropping our lead at home to a rangers team who weren't even that good. We were just terrible. If we play to our strengths we are the best team in Scotland by a mile. I just think the management team have dropped standards and this is the result.

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19 Oct 2020 13:00:43
Maybe it's a bit simplistic, bit I think it's this 352 system that is the problem.

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19 Oct 2020 12:00:27
Too much chopping and changing he needs a settled 11 and if that means leaving players put so be it. Get back to a back 4 and let's start motoring. we can't afford too many more slip ups sevco have got the bit between there teeth and smell blood.

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19 Oct 2020 13:36:58
We didn’t have the right players for it, 433 would’ve countered there own formation for me. Ntcham didn’t play the 10 should’ve been elypunoussi. He’s not a striker.

Also, Ajer, Brown, Welsh and McGregor looked like the only players with a bit of fight. Rest were passengers.

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19 Oct 2020 10:59:22
Hey my friends it was a sore one at the weekend.

Enrico was very positive going into the game but the team just didn't turn up and not for the first time against them.

Was not long ago we were thumping them but now last couple of games we haven't done so good you know?

We need the team back at full strength and fully fit then and hopefully get the bit between our teams teeth again to go out and fight for the elusive 10th title!

There is good players in our squad we just need more belief.

Enrico was very down after the result but we must bounce back and get the players to be proud to wear the hoops and play the Celtic way.

Have a good week my friends

Hail hail 🍀.

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19 Oct 2020 10:58:22
Imo we can rescue the season but it ain't gona be easy.
There are several issues that are all contributing to a fractured start to the season.
1.there seems to be a group of players trying to work there ticket out of the club.
2.a major dip in form by more or less every player in the squad.
3.the new signings haven't hit the ground running.
Barkas looks a bag of nerves. No better than bain on present form.
Duffy hasn't improved the defence.
Laxalt brought in on final hrs of the window .
Turnbull not really had a chance.
Moi is playing like a 16 grand player never mind 16 million.
Ajeti not being fit and we are a quarter of the way through the fixtures has to be a worry.
Add in injuries and c. v and this is why we are in a bit of muddle.
NL looks lost and the next few league games will determine what kind season we are going to have.

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19 Oct 2020 12:02:29
It's early for barkas but he doesn't look any better in fact ad say he looks worse tn bain I've yet to see him shout or talk to his defenders . looks like 4 mill down the swanny could have had marshal as well.

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{Ed007's Note - Barkas has played 14 games for Celtic and conceded 7 goals. In Forster's first 14 games after he came back back he conceded 10 goals while in his first season at Celtic he conceded 12 goals from his first 14 games.
Barkas is in a new country with new team mates and with the manager chopping & changing the defenders for various reasons isn't helping them to build up a rapport. Stevie Woods watched Barkas for over a year and turned in glowing reports, I have no doubt Woods will get the best out of him and improve him.}

19 Oct 2020 12:54:15
Forster was decent on loan but was superb after signing permanently and Stevie had a season working with him. Might not see the best of Barkas until next season but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's £4m wasted.

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19 Oct 2020 13:10:42
I wouldn't right barkas off but for his confidence i think he needs a big game sooner rather than later.
Ed what's your take on the other signings?

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{Ed007's Note - I'm happy enough with the signings but the whole team needs to improve. Duffy will get better the more games he plays but Elyounoussi has disappointed me, with his ability he should be tearing up this league and I think if he is played out wide him and Laxalt could work well together. Turnbull is going to be a great player and I would have had him starting on Saturday before Ntcham, Ajeti has shown that he knows where the goal is and once he is fully fit he should prove to be a great signing.}

19 Oct 2020 13:42:13
Don't think Barkas has had the same defense in front of him two games running and although he has had criticism for a few of the goals conceded; these same permutation of defenders have had their fare share of mistakes as well. When the team struggles their is always a scapegoat; first it was Taylor, now Barkas, but the buck stops at NL.

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19 Oct 2020 07:39:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th October 2020

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18 Oct 2020 23:57:06
I was very surprised at the Lennon Poll earlier. When I voted, there was about 80% didn't believe he could turn things around and deliver the 10. We've been terrible practically all season and it's been painful to watch but last season we played some brilliant stuff and were absolutely ruthless at times. I think we can get back to that but it needs to start now. Aberdeen is a must win, for psychological reasons more than anything, and should be the perfect platform for the players to finally show that they're up to the challenge. I've not given up yet, not by a long shot. HWG10IAR.

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19 Oct 2020 06:51:34
Well said Kev.
A SFA cup makes it 4 trebles and the 10 is also a no brainer for me. It is the time to rally the troops not divide. No comments about the manager needed, enough already said. Its the Club and supporters against the rest, and the manager and players are an integral part of that, same as us supporters.
Onwards and Upwards to the 10.

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19 Oct 2020 06:59:19
Playing well last season means nothing and the most sensible thing Lennon has said lately is we can't live off the past.

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19 Oct 2020 07:38:05
I can’t say the poll surprised me Kev, a poll like that goes up right after yet another diabolical performance in that fixture, that’s the last 3 games at least against that mob we’ve been a shambles, outplayed, outfought, no passion, nothing. Yes we were missing a few players, would that have made a difference? I’d like to have thought so, but we all believe we’ve the best squad in the country, yet the team available produce that? Then lennon talks after the game about his substitutions not having an impact in the game? We were rotten right up till his subs at already 2-0 down, what was he expecting? You’ve then got mcgregor coming out again moaning about fans missing. is that not the same issue for most clubs in Britain? Those players on Saturday seem to forget 50 odd thousand fans have bought season tickets again this year, not getting into the games and that’s the best they can produce against our biggest rivals? We can put the blinkers on and dress it up again if we like, bottom line is our performances this season so far are average at best, and this notion that because we’ve won every trophy going the past 3/ 4 seasons will automatically guarantee this 10th title then I’m sorry, I’m not buying into that. On current form Celtic have real title challenge on their hands make no mistake about it.

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19 Oct 2020 07:53:13
There is no title challange if We don't improve now. Make no mistake about this rangers will win the league unless we either improve or sack lennon. The board have backed lennon to the hilt so he to get the team firing on all cylinders or leave.

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19 Oct 2020 09:47:02
@liamlennon - I understand what you're saying but I don't agree that it counts for nothing. This squad has shown that they can play stylish, championship-winning football under Lennon but it's up to him to recapture that, and quick.

@garryc - Regardless of how fresh the wounds were, I find it incredible that so many had essentially conceded the biggest league race in our history in mid-October due to a 1 point gap.

I'm not saying I'm happy with how things are going or how the team has clearly stopped progressing under Lennon but Lawwell won't sack him. Especially not after offering him the job in the showers and all the stuff about not looking at any other CVs. We can't vote with our feet and we can't make our voices heard from the stands this season so we just need to hope things turn around before it's too late.

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19 Oct 2020 10:23:54
There has been something very wrong for weeks with no comparison to last season as so many factors and circumstances have changed.
The lockdown came when we were at the crest of a wave of form; then there was the long delay and uncertainty when we could resume, with training methods and preparation restricted and shrouded in ultra-safe precautions, fear and uncertainty.
An extended transfer window added to the question of players futures at the club and the realization that FF was not returning for another season; meanwhile we were rebuilding a defense and having to play qualifiers behind closed doors.

A shambolic two weeks in August saw us wobble at Killie, shockingly exit (yet again) the CL amidst indiscipline and severe punishment over Bolingoli's actions that disrupted our momentum, just as much as two International breaks that resulted in several players being put at risk and declared absent from duty.
After a CL exit 'stewards enquiry' it was disclosed by a beleaguered manager that certain players were unhappy at the club and wanted away - then within 24 hours the statement was retracted amid doubt and concerns of the attitude and commitment required.
The loss of Damien Duff has to be mentioned as I feel it has made a difficult situation even worse and has added to the negativity.

To their credit the team went on to win 7 SPL games running to go 2nd by a point - even though we were still struggling to find our best form and performances and some team selections and substitutions have been continually questioned along the way.
That takes us up to the No-Show on Saturday and the aftershock.
The manager has made blunders and that's no mistake, but there are several players who are not giving 100% and that's even worse!

I'm sure some of the above factors have put us where we are today
The club will not replace NL at this stage of the season; but if the manager and team don't snap out of it right now, I think there will be a few heading for the exit door in the new year.

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19 Oct 2020 10:25:59
I’ve kept quiet since the game on Saturday and let the rage subside! Not totally gone but getting there lol. I’ll be brutally honest and say how I felt after the game. lennon for me has lost the players! That was one of the most pathetic showing in a Glasgow derby I’ve witnessed! Forget the players missing and let’s concentrate on the players who were there for a minute! That was gutless clueless and quite frankly embarrassing to watch! Only young welsh and Laxalt can escape criticism! That’s 2 games in a row at home against them, they’ve scored 4 and could have been more, we’ve scored 1 and even that shouldn’t have stood! 90 minutes without a single shot at goal! Let that sink in for a minute, no shots at all at home in a Glasgow derby! Absolutely horrendous! And for those who championed ntcham being this great footballer and should start every week, I would love to know your opinion! Guys an absolute disgrace and wouldn’t wear the Celtic tap again if a had my way! There is massive black cloud hanging over us right now, in the most important season in years, maybe ever! The boli situation, slaughter players and accuse them of wanting to leave,2 days later back track on it, bitton chooses to play with his country behind mangers back and comes back with C.V., leaks in the dressing room! Shambolic is being kind! In my opinion the manager should walk now! But if we don’t get a result on Sunday at Pittodrie then even his biggest supporters have got to say enough is enough!

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19 Oct 2020 11:51:34
people are saying how did we get this bad when we were that good last season the thing is we have went back the way when the rangers have progressed, they are getting investment it doesn't matter if they turn it into shares or whatever they are starting to turn their bad time into a much better place and this is showing in the attitude of their team and fans, meanwhile we are all over the place and the only way to sort it is to have the top brass make the tough calls and get rid of anyone that's not fit for the job they're paid to do.

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19 Oct 2020 12:48:18
Christ that would lead to a very trimmed squad and staff
Let's hope NL accepts defeat in the 3 5 2 system and cracks on with 4 3 3 instead

Barkas GK
Frimpong RB / El Hamed
Duffy CB
Julien CB
Laxalt LB
Ajer CDM
Cal Mac CM
Christie CM
Griffiths AML
Edouard CF
Forrest AMR

Keep the team playing attacking football and we will blow teams away
Turnbull is worth getting on the pitch for 20 minutes at a time and play domestic cups
Same with Ajeti and young Welsh
This season isn't over, it just simply hasn't started and to be fair we've picked up plenty domestic points that things can turn around easily when the team is fit and available
Looking forward to MJ coming back, People see him as light weight but think he has bags of quality and hopefully he comes back hungrier than ever.
Sell ntcham
Loan polish paddy
Give Taylor domestic Cup games
Nir Bitton can cover at the back and play domestic cup games
Soro to again to get game time or go on loan
Brown to cover Ajer and get the replacement bought in January

I'm not interested one bit in uefa Cup, not this season, the sooner Thursday is out the road the better and let's focus on scalping Aberdeen and growing the confidence.

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19 Oct 2020 13:24:59
Kevbhoy, I don’t think that poll is saying Celtic won’t win the league this year, what for me it does is show that a lot of fans have no faith in lennon and his tactics/ selections etc. Lennons biggest problem is himself. He continues to tinker formation tinker selections etc pick players that clearly aren’t cutting it ie ntcham. that guy is an imposter in a jersey, he isn’t even flattering to deceive now, his performances are rotten yet he gets picked ahead of say a turnbull, soro, rogic etc. Another thing that he does himself no favours with is playing guys out of position, and I’m not just talking about Saturday, it’s a regular feature with lennon and fans are sick of it now. That game on Saturday was like putting 11 players together that had never met before, passing all over the place, no structure, nothing and the biggest point for me is that this is now at least the last 3 games against them. that cannot continue mate.

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19 Oct 2020 18:45:44
The poll asked do you think we'll win the league and it's still a resounding no tbf Garry.

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