Celtic Banter Archive January 19 2014

19 Jan 2014 22:00:01
evening ed, fellow posters ,

been thinking about this all week , my kids are at an age now to enjoy going to the games so asked me to take them for the wee 1ns birthday which happens to be the cup game against Aberdeen which as we know the top tier will be closed the game being on telly low crowd expected blah blah etc . but just a though for you all ., could it be a plan that we may just sign a player to get us excited in the final days before deadline ensuring said signings first game would be against the reds therefore a clamour for tickets opening the rest of stadium for a sell out ( or is this Just my devious wee wishful thinking mind at work!,! ) just a thought

Don't think any big signing will come this month just the same old potential unfortunately. As for the Aberdeen match we will only get 30k as it is on tv and I sadly fear the only time we will get a sell out at home is when we play rangers or champions league matches, don't even think winning league or flag day will sell out unless they make it a tenner for a ticket.

It would take one hell of a signing tommy

19 Jan 2014 07:04:18
According to the rags norwich keepin an eye on lennon so just wondering other fans thoughts on 'IF' he went down south how would he get on. Before anyone gives me abuse for this next part remember its only my opinion so don't get all defensive lol. I could be wrong but if lenny left and went 2 a premiership club a really think he would get found out as an average manager at best. He gets away with his tactical naivety and poor substitutions and timings of subs coming on up here due to a poor standard of league but we only have to look at cl games to see that at some points he comes across like he doesn't have a clue. Being on tw@tter which I will never understand it's ridiculous arguing with currant buns and the board should have told him 2 get off that a long time ago. The total lack of youngsters bein given a chance and sticking with the trusted favourites which at the end of the day is his say no 1 elses. His endless amounts of dross signings apart from a few. Not saying he won't become a top manager and end up at a decent mid table premiership team but at this point imo he's just not ready for that step up

GunnieBhoy

Even of NL was a great manager he could easily get canned after a season. Alternately there are those that get opportunity after opportunity and always seem to be in work down the road and they can be as average as can be imagined. Wait a minute isn't this exactly what happens in normal jobs! Sopotcelt.

19 Jan 2014 12:36:42
Be carefull what you wish for. Yes he has made mistakes and he is to loyal to players who maybe should be dropped. At the end of the day he is getting us results, trophys, cl football 2 years in a row. I had my season ticket through the brady, mccarri, venglos, barnes, & mowbary years and think lennon is doing a good job. Canny see him going down south as he won't get the time and backing he has recieved at paradise.

I'm no servo saddo been a bhoy since 1961! but I'll gladly get NL a taxi sent around ASAP & even pay the fair! He's had a good European run last year, but has been found out this time around due to his lack of tactical nous, & persistence in playing the same dreary style & players, he's also failed to give the new lads the kids an opportunity to show in real games what they have! With the current state of the domestic competition & the resources we have to hand, it should be a pre requisite that we're winning the domestic treble every year! No matter who the manager is.

@3 well Mr Servo saddo? with no name, even St Martin could get us into the K.O. stage's of the champion's league but Lenny did and without spending the same money as MON, you say your not a servo? I smell pi$h here, yes, we had a bad champions league although we got into the league proper, also he is the manager and he fall's on HIS decision's, tell me who would you, if you are a Celtic supporter, make the new Celtic manager?.Some on here forget about Barne's Macari, Venglos, and Mowbrey, if you want to go back to that, you must be thick. We are still unbeaten in the league under Lenny's leadership, that will do me fine.OBTW I have been watching Celtic since 1957 and believe me this is not even near some of the worst Celtic team's I have seen.
Tambhoy

19 Jan 2014 13:54:10
So who we gony get to replace him, remember he is still a young manager he is going to make mistakes . His defeats to lower league teams aren't good but most managers get them . Getting to the CL group stages is an achievement when your playing in Scotland. Trebles if they were that easy there would have been a lot more won, how many times have we won them in 125 years .
McNamara unexperienced manager same as Lennon gives youth a chance out of necessity who's to say what he'd do with money.
Hartley just quit took Alloa as far as they could go, to a 5-1 defeat.
Clarke cracking experience as a number 2 good start to his career as manager then sacked for bad results and being to close to bottom of league.
Mckay wins promotion then sacked weather or not the chairmans a tool there still a think bottom of the league.

Tambhoy (wow that's an original non de plume) Hence why I choice not to use one, why must I be thick? Of course have had some shocking managers over the years! I'm not disputing that, but with NO current domestic competition NL should be doing a far better job with the resources available than he currently is! That was my point, personally I would like to see Mcnamara given a chance, but no doubt you'll spout your usual (what's he won where's his management medals nonsense) Lennon had none when we gave HIM the chance! as for your comment about smelling pi$$? That will be from you having had to many Buckie & pledge cocktails. Remember this is a fans forum, & not your personal site for pooh poohing everybody else's opinions simply because there at odds with your own blinkered views.

Well said tambhoy
Hail hail
Andybhoy73

Here lads nower in ma post did I say I wanted him 2 leave or be sacked lol I was askin if he did leave of his own accord and went to the premiership then how would he get on that's all I was asking. No going to lie if he did leave I wouldn't be that gutted about it tbh but that's just my feelings we are all different and have different opinions hence why this is a banter page

GunnieBhoy

He will go at end of season why else did he get amendments to the contract. Regardless of his legend status he isn't anywhere near the manager WGS was/is and before celtic he was with poor teams and hardly set the heather in fire but he knew how to deploy tactics. I agree if he does go there are other managers who could do the same job he has done. John Collins might be ok. Owen Coyle. Anyone who will win the league show progress in Europe play passing football train the players to retain the ball better (after all NL was an effective passer) and revamp the set up which would allow our good young players to get a chance. Save us spending millions on players bring out own nucleus through and use millions saved to be able to either raise our wage structure or sign 1 or 2 5/6 million players in. It's not that NL hasn't done a job he has but his tenure is up he is stagnating the club.

{Ed007's Note - I have said before that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see NL leave this summer. If he doesn't he is in fact tying himself to the club for a further two years. Next summer The Rangers/Sevco/Newclub should be making it's debut in the top league and he won't want to lose face by not taking on that challenge. I just don't think he has the heart or the desire to be here for that length of time. If a decent level of EPL club makes any approach to take over next season I think he will (or already might be) give it serious consideration. Does he maybe feel he has taken the club as far as he can unless he gets serious financial backing from the board?}

@6 At least I have the gumption to put a nom de plume, whoever you are and yes I still smell Pi$h, Eh I believe Jackie Mac Has Managed Partick Thistle and Dundee Utd, or doe's that not count, as for drinking Bbuckie and pledge, it must have been good for me, at least I know how to spell unlike your good self, if it is a FAN's forum as you say maybe you should start acting like one but then again Mr Sevco saddo I don't believe you are.
Tambhoy

I also think if/when Sevco get into the SPL for the first time, NL may not wish to be a part of all the sectarian bigotry crap that will raise it's ugly bile filled head again.
The high profile of these games will generate more gutter press and mischief making and the nutters will be back in force with their death threats and assaults etc etc.
The Old Firm nonsense will be force fed even though it cannot exist and who would blame him for not wanting to face the wee fat slug's smug wee coupon 4 or 5 times a season again?

JJ

My personal opinion and hope is that NL finds a new club. I think he has done a decent job and performed much better than many others could have done under the circumstances. He also deserves some real resources and a new challenge possibly the EPL would suit.
My issue is not so much who is coming in but will the board back them. As the board cannot keep feeding the fans the "strategy" and as they appear to be loathe to pay top dollar then one option would be to capture a decent manager and give the new manager a very good salary, in turn he will bring one or two top players along for below market value. Of course this has been done before. Look at Lennons arrival with Mon. Wm Jansen with Henke and Dr Jo with Lubo. So its hardly rocket science or new thinking. This way the wage bill and transfer fees are kept under control and the extra investment is spent on a wily fox manager in the mould of Dr Jo or WJ.
Scottish managers like Jackie and The OC may well be starved of funds and although bringing a new broom may have just as many problems with the "markee" signings or lack of them that NL has had. What I am saying is the board want big signings but will be working overtime to avoid paying top dollar and this is one solution I am sure they will be considering.
Sopotcelt.

Tambhoy so you slag someone off as YOU have the gumption to use an alias! WTF are you on about, that's hardly any different from being anonymous is it? Lighten up you sound like a typical keyboard fan, if you actually got to the actual games you would certainly see there are many fans unhappy with the dross currently being offered up as entertainment, & for the record I'm a STH so you can forget any of your usual zombie/ sevco shat! Cheers Doug

Lennon played under MON - MON reached the UEFA cup final, if he really wants to engrave his name in Celtics history, then that is a realistic target; no point in going to an EPL or championship team. Try overseas if not

@13 Doug don't think I was slagging him off for not having the gumption to have a nom de plume, think I was answering his post were he was slagging mine, or did you not read that one and yes if someone want's to go back to the good old day's with Macari and co, I stand by my statement they are thick, also as I have written I have followed Celtic since 1957, so no keyboard supporter here old bean, were you there yesterday? Also it will be a prerequisite to have a name on this site soon, so why not have one?just like you have Doug,
Tambhoy

Tambhoy firstly yes I was at the game yesterday (as usual home & away) & it was a more entertaining game than of late, but one swallow doesn't make a summer does it? secondly why do you think we would go back to the bad old days as you put it simply by having a manager other than NL? & thirdly will the fact that this site will soon block unregistered contributors from airing their views really make that much of a difference to what's really going on within our club & the real world? After all celtic has numerous other fan sites that allow views to be aired freely without the need for personal details to be logged, then sold onto any tom dick & Harry, night nite Doug

{Ed007's Note - I can guarantee you that the only personal detail required is a logging in name and an e-mail address. All e-mail addresses are treated with complete confidence and will not be sold or given to anyone else. If you want to moan about it you can pi$$ off and try to find any other forum that you don't need to be a member of let alone only register a name and e-mail for. The sole reason we are doing it is to stop trolls like you and improve the site, so you can either get off your high-horse and register as a user or stop posting, if you need a hand to stop posting I can block you from this end.}

Ed nails it with the comments about the board. They're the biggest restraint on NL. We had a right good squad last year, and NL achieved (overachieved?) with CL last 16. that's where we should have been levelling ourselves. Instead we sold our top scorer and our most valuable player and didn't come close to replacing them, never mind improving those positions. The lack of league competition makes it even worse that a club who should be trying to better themselves in Europe would act like that.

This is the point I raised the other day about an element in our support:-

'but one swallow doesn't make a summer does it'

They seem to revelling in the attendances being down and are disappointed this was not the case on Saturday and that we won 3-0 against a physical Motherwell side.

Weird!

@16 Think ED and Mrs E have answered some of your question's, you don't know if a new manager would be like the other's but I know Lenny's a winner, as for your other post about alias's, doe's the first three letter's in my ALIAS not give you a hint as to my name, thought it quite obvious realy Doug.
TAMbhoy

See for a seasoned veteran fan of nearly 60 years Tam, you really do come across as quite obnoxious most of the time.

I'm completely with JimTim here. There's a total lack of ambition at the club. The SPFL is a given. The goals should be achieving two domestic cup final's and challenging in the CL group stage, whether that's for 2nd spot (as we've now done it 3 times in the past 8 years) or the EL knockout rounds. Instead we sold our best players for tidy profit, replaced them cheaply with players who weaken the team, knocked out one of the cup's at the first hurdle, get rid of the only source of atmosphere in the ground (not once but twice), get embarrassed in the CL including an all time record defeat in a European competition and settle for this "unbeaten record" crap we're getting fed.

Hamiltonbhoy explain to me where I was obnoxious?
Tambhoy