Celtic Banter Archive April 19 2016

 

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19 Apr 2016 23:39:48
Tryin tae forget sunday n end of season for now and think about the last few games am going on sunday and really have no idea what to expect atmosphere wise also any ideas of how many supporters are going to turn up?

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20 Apr 2016 00:12:04
Well there's going to be one.

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20 Apr 2016 06:27:51
Judging by the attendance's prior to Sunday's shambolic display I'd guess it will be another poor turn out and who could blame the fans. Punters are paying decent money to go watch mediocre performances at best which u do get now and again every season but this season it's been like that most weeks. I can't see the attendance's changing till there's a radical shake up inside Celtic park. RD has copped it stinking from all angles and rightly so in my opinion but for players like Craig Gordon etc to come out in the papers and interviews declaring that "we never turned up" or words to that effect well that's not good enough. They're payed plenty and if they can't turn up against what will be our biggest rivals then they can piss off!

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19 Apr 2016 22:38:45
No posted in a while! Anyone think di canio could do a decent job, loves the tic and loads of passion, but bit crazy at times! A think fans would love him.

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20 Apr 2016 02:17:51
Martibhoy, loved Di Canio as a player and as Swindons and Sunderland manager because he was mental but Celtic need a man with experience to turn this team around into decent European opposition and winning the League comfortably with the resources available.

di Canio with his antics could take the club back further, his diet plan didn't wirk at Sunderland and he lost the dressing room fairly quickly.

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20 Apr 2016 06:37:46
I love the tic.

Di Canio is seriously bad news.

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20 Apr 2016 09:49:45
All the arguements as to who the new manager might be (RD is still with us - maybe hell stay? ) is irrelevant. Any decent manager with a pedigree will be expensive and will demand independence. The Celtic CEO and Board appear to be incapable (or don't desire) to spend the money or grant any potential manager independence. Therefore they will employ another unknown or second rate manager and the result will be the same. The Boards priority is the financial well-being of the Company and as long as they don't feel that this goal is threatened they will continue to manage the footballing aspects accordingly. Of course it should be obvious to them that lack of footballing success will eventually cause financial disaster.
In any responsible Company the shareholders would demand of the senior officials = eg CEO - to take responsibility. I can only assume that there are satisfied with what they have.

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20 Apr 2016 10:30:05
haha there was an outcry when we signed Griffiths what's the chances of a fascist getting appointed? We could always talke Malky Mackay as his number 2.

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19 Apr 2016 21:11:12
A name I've not seen linked with yet and we got linked with a few years back that has vast amounts of experience had club and international level that no one has mentioned and is out a job after the euros I would like us to go for but doubt it but for talking sake Roy hodgson.

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19 Apr 2016 21:42:21
What?

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19 Apr 2016 22:19:38
Why. ?

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19 Apr 2016 22:39:24
Roy hodgson.

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19 Apr 2016 23:16:26
He will be out a job after summer and has experience international and club from different countries I'm not saying we will go for him but imo he's a really good option.

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20 Apr 2016 00:21:00
Good should probably out of our price range and would imagine he will. have offers in lower league premiership, Championship and abroad before he would consider our salary.

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20 Apr 2016 07:29:52
True mate the wages we are probably going to offer will put managers off that and John parks role.

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19 Apr 2016 18:20:35
Think it's a foregone conclusion that RD will go at the end of the season. He gave it a go but ultimately the job was too big for him and he's been hung out to dry by Lawell and Park since day one.
I hope the next appointment will be a manager and not 'head coach' but I won't hold my breath.
I'd like to see us show some ambition and go for someone like Marcelo Bielsa or Remi Garde but ultimately I think if Lawell and Park remain in place it will be Peter Houston or Owen Coyle who will be told to work with what they are given and be happy about it.

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19 Apr 2016 19:33:42
I wouldn't want Remi Garde certainly from what I've seen at Aston villa.
He appeared to be just a yes man (sound familiar) , he alienated the players because he and his coaching staff only spoke in French, and any team spirit there was when he took charge had well and truly gone by the time he left.
I'm not against foreign managers, but I think you have to make sure that they understand the culture, the mentality of players vary from country to country, so a manager could be effective in one league but not another.
This next appointment will show the fans whether the board are serious about the future of the club or if they are only interested in their own self interests.
If any good is to come out of Sundays debacle, then I hope it's that the people in charge finally realise that the club can't keep going down the path of the last few years, I think that by reading the comments on here fans won't put up with it any longer.

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19 Apr 2016 22:34:37
Gerryc, it's difficult to know what fans think . This forum although have very many posting their views, is still a very small % of Celtic's total support .
The thing is that I really can't see how Celtic can appoint a manager who is much better than we have . Does anyone really think that P Lawwell will reduce the power and control he has at Celtic . The new manager will have to work under the same conditions and restraints as R D. The fact that Commons was allowed to play after his out- burst and even Brown after his mid week drinking weakened RD position . Lawwell should have taken over these situations and publicly punished both in line with their indescretions . It was a waste of time playing Commons as he has achieved very little since his disgraceful behaviour.

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20 Apr 2016 00:24:57
Bielsa plays a very attacking high pressing game. I think he would work wonders with young players like Tierney and Janko pressing high up the pitch. Something we have failed to see from Janko as of yet and not much of from Tierney on Sunday.

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{Ed007's Note - Janko wants to leave Glasgow and Tierney wouldn't know what Bielsa was talking about because... HE DOESN'T SPEAK ANY ENGLISH!!!!! (headbang)

20 Apr 2016 07:15:13
Chris I couldn't agree more with everything you have said.

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20 Apr 2016 14:10:04
Thanks for pointing out the obvious about Bielsa Ed top knowledge there 👏.

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19 Apr 2016 17:53:38
I honestly believe we will struggle to attract anyone decent on £6k a week!

There was obviously not a stampede to take up the post when RD took it

So glad today the heat / attention turning on PL been a long time coming IMO

He better get it right this time or he be out the door next.

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19 Apr 2016 18:21:20
Sorry to disappoint you JB7 but RD is on £4k a week not £6k
that`s from a very good source.

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19 Apr 2016 18:28:32
PL has gambled with the fans loyalty and lost. People are now in two minds about buying season tickets so if he tries to bring another cheap option that will make their minds up. There will also need to be better quality signings, I can't see him getting away with his usual sound bite that we can afford a £6 m player if he makes us better and then bring in free transfers like Carlton Cole and probably CKM. We have signed three strikers this season and couldn't play any of them on Sunday.

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19 Apr 2016 18:30:11
I think the fans should wait until a manager is in and what players we are looking to sign before going for season books.

Now is the time for the fans to show Lawell that enough is enough.

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19 Apr 2016 18:51:42
For fox sake cprs any less we will end up with Big Isa in charge :-)

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19 Apr 2016 19:12:24
Big Isa on £4k a week what is she taking a pay cut lol.

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19 Apr 2016 21:37:54
I don't think banter is allowed on here guys 😂.

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19 Apr 2016 21:52:19
That in itself is a disgrace. I know it's not worked out but for him to be getting paid a quarter of what Lawwell gets is incredible. It's also a fraction of what Lennon got. I heard he was also on a bonus for Euro qualification but the pressure a Celtic manager is under is worth the 4K alone. It also shows that the board were unsure and basically admitting it was a punt. I am totally sickened with the whole thing to be honest!

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19 Apr 2016 22:40:14
I am not one bit worried whether the new manager gets £2k or £15k per week . I am more concerned about his ability and the unfettered control that he gets .

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19 Apr 2016 16:59:51
Does it matter who Celtic get in of they have to replace Ronnie he's been on a hiding since the minute he was employed from the papers saying he was to be Lennons assistant and was never first choice to our own fans not happy he had no Celtic connections the players have never bought into his ideas how many of Sunday's players were actually signed by RD? Even with mourinho in charge with no money to spend and the players not trying for him he could do no better. The likes of Commons Brown Stokes and co who are causing unrest should be shipped out immediately and let RD do his job.

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19 Apr 2016 17:24:53
I was very gutted with SB on sunday. Not to the point of getting rid, after what he's shown he can do he just needs a good rest physically and mentally, ask himself why he's not doing it and hopefully comes running out next season wearing the armband in the middle of the park with honour again.

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19 Apr 2016 17:41:34
I think SB has just run his course. Happens to every player and Just think this is his time.

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19 Apr 2016 18:24:25
He's only 30, so in the modern game should have at least 5 years left, even more if he sits more and doesn't dive about the pitch so much. I agree about him maybe needing a rest, especially mentally. A couple of things, I think there must be something going on behind the scenes, I also don't think he should be coaching the youth team when he might need to rest up, especially the way the first team are playing, he should be concentrating on building team spirit and sorting the lot of them out, himself included. He isn't playing well though, I thought he grew into the role because when he arrived from Hibs he was rotten, he almost looked as though he regretted joining us. Like I've also said though, - his passing was average under Lennon, and Ronny has done the impossible in making his passing worse! That's my biggest problem, I don't see one thing that Ronny is supposed to be doing on the training pitch. Not one of the things he talks about actually happens!

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19 Apr 2016 18:34:17
Two things in his defence. he clearly has not fully recovered from injury and was brought back too soon. Also the two players in the midfield get too much work to do, because of the lack of quality in front of them, our front four are constantly giving the ball away. rangers had three sometimes four players in the central area on Sunday and they just passed the ball round SB and NIR . Consistently throughout the season we have been outnumbered in central midfield

Broony has given us enough to have the benefit of doubt. In my view he will be better again next season when he Is fully fit and playing in a more effective system.

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19 Apr 2016 18:46:08
SB is finished in my eyes. What we seen on sunday from him was he can't control or trap a ball. can't pass 5 yards. Some fans have thought this for months with him iv been thinking it for years. He couldn't lace any former captains that iv seen. Maybe Peter Grant!

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19 Apr 2016 18:50:36
for me SB has downed tools and a spill over from his historical spat with JC

First mistake RD made for me (JC) although it was probably forced on him he would have had no prior knowledge of it

Factor in the you have two individuals fitness and conditioning obsessed you need one to be a contrast for me

SB will come good again (y)

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19 Apr 2016 19:23:27
A Celtic captain should never down tools. Your captain is the man who can rely on. He can have a stinker, but he can't down tools. Give him the break now and play Armstrong in his place.

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19 Apr 2016 20:14:45
After commons outburst brown showed support for deila. I think he has been rushed back from injury and that the injury may have taken its toll
It's alot harder regaining fitness and sharpness in your 30s speaking from experience and Browns game is based on fitness throughout his career he's been suspect technically but his work ethic leadership and ability to intimidate opponents got him through
I would still like him here next season but would like to see him rested and allowed to recover fully.

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{Ed007's Note - Good to hear you can still remember being in your 30s (yes) :=o

19 Apr 2016 21:30:27
There's a difference between saying what he thinks we all want to hear and actually doing it I agree no Celtic player should ever down tools never mind the captain Browns best asset was the way he could motor about the park and win tackles if he can't do that anymore then as sad as it may seem he's surplus to requirements he hasn't got the technical ability or the brains to sit and dictate a game Collins might have been forced on RD but they are firm friends now, if we had Lennon or others would we have seen teirney or the improvements in rogic McGregor biton? Get rid of the old guard and see the team move forward.

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19 Apr 2016 22:25:41
He's probably started pointing as much as Peter Grant! There's not one player that if he left would leave me heartbroken. Brown has been average, Biton is another though who hasn't had one brilliant game all season. Ronny sticks with them all though, that's another one of his faults. I think Armstrong is better a bit deeper. He played there when he was younger, he's never a wide player, and isn't a no 10 either. Lustig is another who shouldn't even be in the squad of 18 the way he is playing. Then there's GMS who simply can't be trusted in big games, he's like a child. So I wouldn't just blame Brown. It all has to come from the manager though, we've got the biggest squad in Europe yet it's the same shysters we see every week!

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19 Apr 2016 22:44:41
S Brown wasn't our worse player on Sunday . He was inches away from scoring and if the ball had finished inside the post instead of whizzing past, we would have went on to win and Brown would be lauded.

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20 Apr 2016 00:30:52
Ed made a good point he thought that the poison in the dressing room was JC. If we kept Delia for another season then JC has to go, JK back to coaching youths and RD to pick his backroom staff. Also a bit more control on signings and a bit more financial backing too and see what RD is really made of. No one can blame RD for losing the dressing room when JC has history of it.

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20 Apr 2016 01:35:28
On KDS the guys were talking about a certain situation involving Scott Brown, Craig Gordon and Stefan Johansson (regarding Kieran Tierney) and the relevance to the squad spirit thereafter. This is the first I've heard of it but they were saying this as if fact- did I totally miss this?

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{Ed007's Note - The story was that Johansen went in full pelt on KT and when some of the other players pulled him up over it things got a bit heated. I don't know if it's true or not but Brown would have a cheek and spats like that happen all the time in training. It's just a pity some of them haven't shown KT the same protection against opposition hatchet men.}

20 Apr 2016 06:38:38
Marco10 what utter bollocks regarding being in your 30s and it being harder to retain sharpness. Sounds like excuses.

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20 Apr 2016 06:44:33
It's a pity NOBODY has shown KT's attitude.

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20 Apr 2016 11:14:22
Ah cheers ED.

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19 Apr 2016 15:48:07
Just to make sure everyone has seen this:

newtop

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19 Apr 2016 16:29:14
Although not traditional i do like the gold trim when we have one. The split hoops have really grown on me this year. Sadly though my favourite jerseys tend to be from good seasons.

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19 Apr 2016 16:39:27
I like it though I would buy it without the sponsor

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19 Apr 2016 16:40:15
My favourite is the 125th anniversary kit - with no sponsor. So simple.

I retain a soft spot for the little and large hoops of 94/ 95 as it was the first time I saw Celtic win silverware. I loved the hooped socks too.

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19 Apr 2016 16:42:55
I like it.

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19 Apr 2016 17:56:27
Decent strip. My favourites were the 2013/ 14 top and the 125th anniversary home and away tops - the best in years.

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19 Apr 2016 14:54:47
Theres only one way we are going to see change at club, PL out of club immediately. There are 3 ways I think this can happen:

1. DD sells up and relinquishes ties with club. (Unlikely scenario but anything is possible)

2. Boycott all season ticket sales and purchasing merchandise.

3. He takes Sunderland role.

We need him to go if we are to repair damage done during last few seasons. We cannot progress with him here. Personally i think he will be his usual arrogant self and stay unless pushed.

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19 Apr 2016 15:22:49
There is a banner been hung outside paradise today

The blame lies with you
Peter £aww£ll.

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19 Apr 2016 15:40:56
Is that a joke john67 or for real? Would love something like that.

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{Ed007's Note - This was put up yesterday:

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19 Apr 2016 15:49:57
I love the foresight to differentiate between the Pound and the Euro.

Total sidenote re pics ED, have you seen the new home kit? I got set an image but not sure how to share it on here.

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19 Apr 2016 16:03:52
Ah cheers ED. I really like it.

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{Ed007's Note - It's quite smart. I like that it has a collar, when you've got a neck like mine wearing round neck shirts is not a good look. I doubt I'll be buying any new merchandise next season though unless there is changes at the Club.}

19 Apr 2016 16:06:40
I'm sure if he can find his magnifying glass that banner will send shockwaves round the boardroom.

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19 Apr 2016 16:30:53
Should have used Isa's auld knickers NT87.

Great gesture though.

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19 Apr 2016 16:36:39
Guys as much as I want Pedro gone also, no way will the club get rid of both Deila and Lawwell at the same time. Also I read online that Celtic have invested a lot of time getting Lawwell on committees in both the SFA and in europe so will want that influence to continue.
Ronnie will go and some minor changes will be made at boardroom level, as I also read DD is concerned about the amount of fans not buying club merchandise. The club also pinned their hopes on more season ticket sales also with the tribute act back, but Ronnie's failures have threatened this.
So some new iniatives are clearly needed to get the fans back on board and spending money at the club.

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{Ed007's Note - Isn't DD worried about Lawwell's failures that have affected merchandise sales and season ticket sales? I doubt DD even knows how much merchandise brings into the Club and considering most of our income will come straight from New Balance I can't see him sitting worrying about how many mugs the shop sold last week.
Let's be clear here, RD is a symptom of Peter Lawwell's failures and he should be held accountable as much as RD if not more. There are more people not renewing their season tickets because of Lawwell and as long as he's here they won't be back regardless of who the manager is.}

19 Apr 2016 16:41:41
Worst case scenario ED, you can rock the "Cantona"!

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{Ed007's Note - Especially if he came in as manager....

19 Apr 2016 19:04:32
ED007 I agree with you over Lawwell and also that DD has lost interest in our club, if that is the case he should sell his shares and move on.
But as for ST and Merchandise surely Ian Bankier and the rest of our board should be addressing these issues and putting plans in place to win back all us fans. Like you I will not be renewing my season tickets until I see some genuine improvement. It all hinges around Pedro and his £1m salary plus bonuses.

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{Ed007's Note - For me the only way Lawwell can survive this is by throwing John Park under the bus (no pun intended) and bringing in someone with a whole new approach and direction for the Club that the fans buy into. I don't think there was anything wrong with Lawwell's plan but Park should never have been given the power a DOF gets, doing that was up there with making Jock Brown GM.}

19 Apr 2016 19:19:34
It's a sad day and shows how serious the problems are when punters like you are thinking of not renewing Tim. Let's all hope that something gets done at the end of the season to get everyone back together.

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19 Apr 2016 20:42:56
People say things in the heat of be moment like "I'm never going back" or "i won't be renewing" but for me people's blind passionate love for the club will keep people going. That's how I felt some days but then I always found myself back there again. A good analogy is golf. Sometimes I've played 17 holes like a total donkey and eagled the last. Can't wait for the next week. Other times played like a donkey for 18. Hate it but still go back becuSe I like it. A glutton for punishment. Tim you and yours will go to the games next year sure but one things for sure we're not as happy as we deserve to be.

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19 Apr 2016 14:42:30
Comments have been passed re: the Match Officials at Sunday's Semi Final - But what about the Fireworks (Munitions. . . ) let off and the Sectarian Songs and Chants by the Sevco Fans . . .

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{Ed007's Note - What about the flares/smokebombs that were let off in our end? I'm just hoping whoever let them off from both sides were smart enough to cover their faces so they weren't caught on camera as I'd hate to see any young lads up in court over setting off some pyro.}

19 Apr 2016 15:16:35
Who has passed comments regarding officials?

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19 Apr 2016 16:11:50
One of our fans is banned attending matches for shouting "f. Orange b.
Another of our fans is in hospital after unprovoked face stabbing by a Sevco fan and that got away.
Sunday simply wasn't our day.

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19 Apr 2016 16:49:03
Anything done about their banner about paedophiles?

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19 Apr 2016 16:49:58
I did Ryan if you look for it.

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19 Apr 2016 17:46:52
Banners in both ends cm! u must be like sno and many other Celtic and rangers fans your eyes and ears only work when it's the other fans doing something.

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19 Apr 2016 20:53:05
I see you never looked at what I was saying so where does that leave you?

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19 Apr 2016 21:26:10
Where does it leave me? what have I to look at?

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19 Apr 2016 21:54:36
Yes linesman made the wrong call with throw in! lot of work to do after that I would be angry about Scott Browns pathetic attempt to challenge McKay he walked past him!

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19 Apr 2016 22:09:02
Ref got it wrong I meant before u lose the plot.

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19 Apr 2016 22:44:27
Not going to Ryan. My point was a universal one to any team if the Ref got it so wrong and it was proven like he did on that instance and it did effect the outcome of the game (sending off penalty foul throw in) then there should IMO be a statement why he/ she gave that decision. At least we as supporters would see why.

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19 Apr 2016 14:23:32
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19 Apr 2016 15:34:33
I did it for you mate. God knows why a post like this gets disagrees.

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19 Apr 2016 15:44:17
Done mate. I had to resubmit my diss regarding surveys so best of luck.

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19 Apr 2016 16:23:57
It actually did take a minute. Awrabest to yourself and Jim. As for you Poetic Patient, well I hope we're still friends. For being so pro Ronny you do make a lot of good points. No hissy fits I'm only playing!

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19 Apr 2016 16:42:42
Friends til' the end.

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19 Apr 2016 16:51:04
Done.

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19 Apr 2016 21:51:18
Good luck boss

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19 Apr 2016 13:04:42
Looks like RD will leave in the summer and although it does give the club more time to TRY and get the right man in the door, [don't hold your breath] it still leaves us in a difficult situation.
Often, when it is apparent the manager is going, it can be a distraction and be disruptive and although the players [most of which have got us into this mess] should be professional enough to finish the job, some of them know that they'll also be out the door.
The next game will show how they handle the situation and deal with the devastating cup exit.

The new manager should be identified asap and work behind the scenes in preparation for the new season and I only hope it is not Collins or another 'Yes Man'.
The board have typically missed a unique opportunity, these past four years, to utilise the superiority and advantages at their disposal to push Celtic forward, virtually unopposed and the list of inferior players and trophies 'given away' are a shameful legacy of complacency.
Of course five league titles in a row would not be failure, but when we look back, it is difficult not to reflect on our European decline, so many mediocre signings and so few vintage Celtic games.

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19 Apr 2016 14:00:18
Jungle Jim 2 it seemed to me there was a distinct lack of professionalism shown especially by our Senior players on Sunday . I hope we don't have to rely on this so called professionalism to win the last league matches .

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19 Apr 2016 14:05:25
I agree with all that Jungle Jim, especially what you said about Collins.
I'm tempted to say that a lot of the players don't seem to show much pride in wearing the Celtic jersey, so I don't imagine they'd feel too down about losing the semi final, I think it's the supporters who feel the real hurt.
Whoever comes in as the next manager I hope that whatever else he does he is able to motivate and get a response from the players in big matches.
The thing that hurt most on Sunday was that they looked as if they wanted it more than us, and for a Celtic player that is just not on. We can all talk endlessly about systems and tactics, but unless players have that deep down desire and hunger not to be beaten, then none of it matters a jot.
Next season I would like to see a group of players and a manager who absolutely hate to lose, of course we will lose games, but I never want to come away from an important match feeling we lost because our opponents had more desire than us.
That's the very least the manager and players owe the supporters.

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19 Apr 2016 14:53:09
That lack of fight and pure grit is what has let us down too many times in big games in recent seasons Gerry.
Even Brown has lost a lot of his positive aggression and drive, while Johansen is limited to committing daft fouls all over the pitch.
Others like Lustig, Bitton, GMS, Armstrong, McGregor and Rogic may have a good touch at times, but none of them fancy a battle or even a tackle if it comes to it.
We really are a soft touch and any team that is well organised, energetic and physical has given us more than a game - as was the case on Sunday.
The current squad is terribly unbalanced and lacking in key areas and at present only Tierney and Schiavchenko have a bit of dig.
I'm not saying we need to go out and buy a few 'cloggers', but we certainly need more players that appreciate that jersey.

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19 Apr 2016 21:26:50
It's funny. I was ( and have been ) saying that for a good while now. I was shot down repeatedly. It's now cool to hold this view. Time is a funny thing. The passage of time brings a fresh perspective. If we were on the curve as opposed to behind it, we could have staved off the threat of unprofessionalism and lack of hunger and general indifference but we got embroiled in name calling

Shame that.

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19 Apr 2016 12:43:02
I know that this will sound like sour milk but again nothing from the SFA about Thomsons handling of the game more so over ruling the linesman as he was in charge for their second goal Sadly they deserved the win but yet again another changing point in the game comes from a man in black and not a thing is released from the SFA it's time the rules changed and the Ref has to explain why he made the wrong decision if its found to be so maybe then they will think twice before doing it.

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19 Apr 2016 12:58:39
It was a bad decision, almost arrogant in the way he looked at the linesman and pointed at himself to say "I'm the boss", but we had plenty of time to get rid of it or close McKay down.

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19 Apr 2016 14:01:54
In the aftermath of our own failings and shortfalls on the day, the comments and posts were focussed on the manager, team and result; but it was apparent throughout the whole game, that Thomson turned his usual blind eye to many infringements against us and if you watch a replay of the game [ if you dare] you will see us miss out on almost every 50/ 50 decision and some pretty blatant 'honest mistakes'.
There is no doubt that we did not do enough to win the game and it still hurts to have watched us being a very poor second best; but there is absolutely no denying this guy has always had an agenda against us and it would be interesting to see how many 'big games' we have lost under his 'stewardship'?

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19 Apr 2016 14:07:32
Yeah I agree and as I said sadly they deserved to go through But all said and done no public accountability for a BAD em error on there part I am not talking about any little error but if it's a result of a goal being scored or not or a player getting sent off or not with a clear result in it being wrong then IMO a statement should be made on behalf of the Ref or on behalf of the SFA.

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19 Apr 2016 14:09:41
Kevbhoy of course we had, but those of us who have played the game realise it just takes the slightest distraction to break concentration and allow a shot away .
Despite playing very poorly we still had far more clear cut chances than they had .
One thing that has me thinking is the very indifferent support and encouragement may have caused us dearly when the team didn't appreciate or trust the support on Sunday . Something was strange every time Celtic pressurised Rangers within 20 yds of Rangers goal, the Rangers defence panicked, yet Celtic dropped back and gave them the ball for next 10minutes.

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19 Apr 2016 14:54:43
To hear posters moan about the ref after our performance on Sunday is embarrassing.
The ref had a good game.

I agree with a lot of the bias in Scotland however to me that means our players should be more fired up and accept the fact that they will have to play to their best to win. This means passing the ball, creating opportunities and scoring. Oh and fighting for the ball when not in possession.

What will sicken me is next season these same players who have disgraced the club and fans with their don't give a F@! * attitude all season, will be spouting of next year about 'how they are up for under this regime. ' Etc wven players don't like the regime personnel pride and relationships with the supporters should drive them on.

From the top down the club owe the fans an apology.

Instead I fear we'll get another manager who splits the support and we'll be where we were two years ago, with the same crowd of imposters in the boardroom.

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19 Apr 2016 17:08:42
Island the Ref had a good game? Really? So it was there ball that led to the second goal? Sorry I guess every other person is wrong and you and Thompson are correct my apologies And before you come back with I am just making excuses up for the loss I have already stated that they deserved to win But I would like to have some clarification as to why it was there ball even though the linesman had a better view and Thompson clearly could not see it or if he did see it its as good as saying he was cheating OR is there another reason? That is why IMO for decisions like that a statement should be made shortly afterwards.

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19 Apr 2016 19:36:43
Tony, the ref thought he was right and made the call - end of.
He kept the game flowing, was sensible with the cards early on, and kept the lid on the emotions.
I never said I agreed with the throw in - I don't. Moaning about it changes SFA and it makes us looks like petulant kids.
Apart from that decision, where he clearly thought he was in the right, did you think he had a good game?
I've seen some clearly one sided refereeing contests before, but I didn't think Sunday was one of them.

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19 Apr 2016 21:01:46
Apart from that he was ok IMO but I was talking about more in general than just of one game and not just of Celtic but any game that A Ref was clearly wrong there has to be a statement why he thought he was right. But getting back to that incident he saw it clearly or he did not if he did see it clearly I see why they have that logo on his shirt if he did not he should have went with his linesman so what do you think of his excuse? Glasses or no Glasses?

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19 Apr 2016 12:05:20
Ed question for yourself, do you think Ronny has to leave at the end of the season? Interested on your personal opinion as I know you've been a big fan of his and continued to back him this season up till now.

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{Ed007's Note - There will more than likely be an amicable parting of the ways with RD moving on at the end of the season after signing a confidentiality agreement.}

19 Apr 2016 13:21:01
Personally I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case, and rather those above Ronny removed, but the silence from the club since Sunday has given me the feeling Ronny is gone in the summer, shame as I felt if he was allowed his own backroom staff and not John "Lawell and Parks eyes and ears" Collins, and given control over signings he could have really achieved his vision.

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19 Apr 2016 10:20:29
The board should do the right thing and leave. Failing that they should not take any bonus this year across the whole board.

It would be nice if they showed us some respect- other clubs in EPL like Leicester bought their fans food and drink and others provide transport to games. How about laying in buses to a few away games or for the Irish fans pay for their boat a few times a season.

We are totally treated as mugs and shown no respect at all. Board out - maybe walk out this weekend at 67min.

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19 Apr 2016 10:38:56
There won't be enough fans there for a walkout to be noticed Ploughbhoy81.

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19 Apr 2016 11:35:01
As long as Ronny Jc jk are there I won't be watching I will if they hire a guy that's going to take no crap ie moyes Rodgers but it will prob be sum1 like j Hughes or a Stubbs.

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19 Apr 2016 13:47:25
Daddy do you realise Rodgers was in the same position at liverpool that Sheila is at celtic? Signings at both clubs are not done by the manager.

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19 Apr 2016 14:13:48
A hot dog and a burger and a glass of brown lemonade isn't going to buy much time and gratitude for the Celtic Board . Leicester came up with their idea when they are in an unbelievable successful position . Unfortunately we are not.

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19 Apr 2016 08:57:24
If ronnie goes . a good candidate imo is Christophe galtier of st ettiene lying at 17th when he took over he's taken them 10th 7th 5th 5th 5th 4th =4th now ( 4 points behind second ) two of his 5th placed seasons he missed 4th by a point and by goal difference. . only the money clubs usually finish above them . would he see us as a challenge or a step back?

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19 Apr 2016 10:21:03
It's always a 50/ 50 tbh. You can get a relatively unknown or inexperienced manager who can do really well or you could get someone with a big reputation who doesn't work out. The same with players. Moravcik and Larsson - 2 of our best ever players were not exactly met with excitement or joy. And forgive me for the next example but look at Mark Warburton and Paul le Guen across the city. The hopes were very high for PLG and he was gone within months. Christophe Galtier is well respected in France and beyond but that often means nothing when it comes to managing in Glasgow. It'll be very interesting to see if the board go for an adventurous appointment like him, though I won't hold my breath.

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19 Apr 2016 10:32:25
He may be a decent shout, but I think the way this board operate they will go for someone who they think will bring the crowds back.
I've noticed recently how quiet the superstore is before matches, so I assume the sales of merchandise are well down, I think trying to bring more revenue into the club will be what their choice of manager will be based on.

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19 Apr 2016 11:17:20
Good call again drb, he's on my lust if potential candidates further down the page. I'd like RD to stay, to some capacity, under a different regime, but I don't think that will happen now. There's just too much bad feeling now.

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19 Apr 2016 11:45:20
I said we could have tried to get Hiddink to work as a DOF to Ronny but since then we have played well against Hearts for 45 minutes and that's pretty much it. It's not been good enough at all.

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19 Apr 2016 13:01:55
DRB, Galtier is a great shout, as are most of the names on your list Jim. Someone else mentioned Yakin (apologies, I can't remember who) and he is my personal favourite of the names mentioned thus far. My only real concern is that no matter who comes in (from any of these guys) , they would be coming in to an environment that is set up to fail. I don't just mean the board either, I include the fans in that.

The very fact that people are STILL posting about Larsson or Lennon as potential candidates shows this. For everyone on this board who knows who Galtier (for example) is, there is someone who will say "who? ", and then question whether or not he knows what it's like to be "a Celt" etc. RD (and this is in no way a defense of him) was doomed to fail from the start. I doubt a Yakin or a Gaultier would be given the support needed to implement their ideas. It's a sad state of affairs - but it seems to be the reality.

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19 Apr 2016 13:37:24
Think you're right again there PP. I can't believe people are even suggesting Larsson. Where would we be going a full circle with Lennon either? He had his hands tied, left, the new guy in comparison actually does just as good, then we go back to Lennon? It's backwards but that is what will happen I can just smell it from here. I hope DD reads forums like this and just sacks PL and JP too. If he cares the ways he says, and isn't going to invest, at least have the correct people steering the ship.

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19 Apr 2016 08:49:44
Reports on Norwegian TV say Deila will defineately leave at end of season, so who would we all want as our new manager?
Bearing in mind how Deila has divided all the fans and even the names being mentioned are not getting 100% support, we need someone who can unite all the fans, gain the respect of the players and galavanise everyone.
Step forward HENRIK LARSSON, yes I know his managerial experience is limited but he would give the whole club such a huge lift, maybe even bring Lubo back in some capacity also.

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19 Apr 2016 10:08:09
So everybody moans about Europe and and Ronny being inexperienced and your first thought is Larsson?

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19 Apr 2016 10:27:17
Larsson has done nothing to merit being Celtic manager. He isn't ready and I think he knows that himself.

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19 Apr 2016 10:30:32
Tim I must admit I wouldn't fancy Henrik back as manager for two reasons! 1 I don't think he has enough managerial experience for the job and 2 I would rather remember him as a legend of a player at our club rather than a managerial flop if it all went wrong! I would rather we went for Moyes of brought back Martin O'Niell.

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19 Apr 2016 10:53:42
The time for rookie managers or managers with little experience is done in my eyes.
Don't care who the are.
Get a man in that has served his time.
This is a John Barnes Martin oneill moment for us.

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19 Apr 2016 11:01:16
I would do everything in my power to convince Gordon Strachan to come back.

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19 Apr 2016 12:54:50
I'd like to see strachan as a DoF type figure. Sort things out from top to bottom.

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19 Apr 2016 13:53:32
My ideal situation would be michael laudrup as manager, Roy aitken as assistant and deila to be in charge of our youth setup.

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19 Apr 2016 14:06:00
I think players would listen to what ever Larsson told them to do no questions asked. He was a fantastic professional and his achievements are also pretty high up the order. I personally would take Larsson. I just think he could Instill passion into the side again being vastly experienced in the club and culture. I don't think another manager from a european club is the answer because they will have the same lifestyle and dietary requirements as deila did and the players won't buy into it again. I don't think any Brittish clubs are as far infront as the rest of Europe when it comes to this.

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19 Apr 2016 15:03:33
If a player won't buy into the dietary and lifestyle requirements required (to be a professional athlete) then they should be nowhere near our club. We certainly shouldn't be looking at coaches based on whether or not they'll ask our players to ditch the kebabs.

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19 Apr 2016 15:04:04
What has Larsson done at managerial level to even merit being associated with job? This is what's wrong with segment of our support, they want a manager who has prior connection or irish to manage club. doesn't matter how hopeless they are, so long as they fit that profile. Enjoy many more seasons of doom and gloom if that's the case!

By the way just to clarify before anyone spits dummy out and makes similar accusations to me regarding my criticism of Lennons managerial capabilities, Larsson is my favourite player of all time. doesn't mean that because i don't rate him as a manager, that i automatically hate him.

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19 Apr 2016 15:25:00
I'm disappointed that your assessment is that I represent what is wrong with the support based on my opinion. I don't think any manager that has achieved anything at managerial level will be linked with the Celtic job. I merely voiced that I think he would do a job based on my own views regarding his attributes and abilities. I will attempt to wind my neck in in future tho when it comes to adding my opinion incase I offend you DN30 or incase your views aren't the same as mine. Who do you want as manager BTW?

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19 Apr 2016 15:50:37
Pedrocelt see whoever we appoint, I want to see someone who has done well before hand. don't care about past affiliations etc, anyone who has done well before hand is welcome. Murat Yakin would be my choice.

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19 Apr 2016 15:51:40
Its nonsense to say the time for a rookie manager has passed. What we want is a successful manager whether is rookie or with 30 years at the top it doesn't matter . We need a manager with the full support of everyone connected to the club. Just because the MSSM question whethe he is the right man, doesn't mean a rump of our support should agree with the media . Those within the club especially the board must do everything in their power to help& support him . We need to be clear and transparent, the board must explain in details the football targets our new manager has and within what time table .
Any player that appears too big for boots should get removed from squad immediately, the manager is always right.

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19 Apr 2016 08:24:10
Following all the posts regarding our manager it seems everyone accepts its a forgone conclusion that RD will be away at the end of the season.
Does anyone think he will be supported in the transfer market and given another season?

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19 Apr 2016 08:51:11
No chance.

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19 Apr 2016 08:54:22
Risk to season ticket sales and merchandise too big a gamble. They know we need to have renewed HOPE. That alone is worth about £10m in revenue on season book sales alone ( in terms of uplift )

There is nothing RD can say now to instigate demand and interest and that's the problem. And JC needs to go too.

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19 Apr 2016 08:59:56
Unfortunatelt I think he's staring down the barrel waiting for the end of the season. Just hope he's not the only one.

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19 Apr 2016 12:55:14
according to transfermarket, RD has had around £19m to spend, so he has definitely been backed by the board. that's more than enough to win a treble and reach the group stage of the CL.
its his tactic (singular) that has caused the problem. the players have to take their share of the blame, but IMO, its mainly him.
against hearts, and again on sunday, his tactic was to sit back, allow them possession and try to counter. our tackling and passing wasnt good enough for that, and we clearly didn't have the pace for it either.
so, short story long, will they have the funds or the bottle to back a new manager?

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19 Apr 2016 15:05:39
Degsy If your that clued up you will know Deila doesn't have a say in transfers. that's John Park. I don't call that backing in transfer market.

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19 Apr 2016 15:52:55
That £19 m is poor fictional.

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19 Apr 2016 08:03:56
Lennon in my mind has the best credentials to take Celtic forward not only is he one of us he knows the Scottish game inside out, he demands 100 percent from all staff sacking close friend tomo proved this, I can go on and on but the experience he has amast from his time with Bolton on players in the championship and below is only good for Celtic if he is going to be our next manger, I know some of us moaned about his tactics some times but grinding results out against big clubs was some of my best memories in latest history. I for one see Lennon as are best choice, this board are not going to give any manger big money and mangers like Moyes, Rogers ect are not going nowhere near us unless thers money and the board at are club is more interested in taking than giving, I for one has came to accept that Celtic is a club going nowhere under this regime, and Lennon is are best choice.

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19 Apr 2016 08:23:08
That's the thing English Bhoy you don't have to accept it. Time to tell this regime we will not accept it. Hit them where it hurts until they have no option other than to step aside. The problem will be the fans who think we are being run like a dream. happy to use the rangers death as an excuse to downsize and cut our cloth accordingly, Well look at the state of us a club in turmoil getting mauled by the so called zombies who were dead and buried. Time the Celtic support woke up to what is happening at our club.

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19 Apr 2016 09:26:50
Stan19 I hear where ya coming from, but the fans of are great club sat on ther laurels when are chief exec knocked back the living wage for the workers at Celtic and went on to give him self a 25 percent wage rise, with not a wimper from are so called diehard fans, I love Celtic and have made a stance with my feet by not going to see Celtic but my seat is paid its a catch 22, I am all for a boycott of season book merchandise ext. But like most of us I need to work and have not got the time to demonstrate and be available for protests and living in Cambridgeshire doesn't help, but I am all for following the right man or woman in ther pursuit of something better for my beloved Celtic, but this current board and majority share holders care for one thing and that is how much they can take and not for what give are great club they declare to support, its a horrible thing to say but on the demise of Desmond he will ALLWAYS be known as the man with his gimps who held a giant of the game back, for his 30 pieces of silver, so Stan 19 I am at the point were iv accepted that until death of these parasites are club will stand still in its progress.

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19 Apr 2016 09:50:03
Well said English Bhoy, Maybe. Just maybe even the fans who have sat and accepted this crap from DD and PL will now take notice. I now grudge giving my cash to them so they have a big job on their hands trying to get me back because i refuse to go until there is change. The thing is i know how much i spend on Celtic every year so to multiple that by say 15,000 or possible more, Scary. Fingers crossed Celtic get people involved that the fans deserve. DD PL JP etc etc etc etc out Now.

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19 Apr 2016 12:59:05
Aye cause he done amazing job last time round. Also took Bolton to relegation.

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19 Apr 2016 07:11:15
Gary Monk
Rudi Garcia
Thomas Schaaf
Roberto Di Matteo
Marcelo Bielsa
Benrd Schuster

All out of a job. Will any of them be considered as RDs replacement or will the only options be then likes of:

Lennon
Larsson
Coyle
Keane
Moyes.

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19 Apr 2016 09:05:50
Garcua is the stand out there for me. Schaaf is interesting he's had a mixed career really but did do incredibly well with Bremen. We'll get Lennon.

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19 Apr 2016 10:29:19
I think it will be Lennon too. To be honest if the Board do go back down the "celtic man" route then he's probably the best option.

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19 Apr 2016 10:44:10
I agree LM67, he's the best option out of that second list for me.

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19 Apr 2016 15:58:43
All these people are out of work, for one reason, it has been thought they were not good enough. Are we better getting a failure or a rookie?
I think that looking at these names does nothing to improve our chances . A single manager brought in under PL and Parke won't have any better chance than R D.

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19 Apr 2016 07:06:04
Why are we still quoting names of managers who are not up to it, or in NL case, has he not had enough bile to want it again? We cannot pay the money that would attract a big name. Lastly, we should treat each poster with respect as it is opinions that we are discussing. Hail, Hail.

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19 Apr 2016 07:31:16
I think it's when someone says they know it's going to be this that or the next thing is why people get shot down or say that they heard from someone high up but can't back up there claim for example how how many said Rd would be gone by yesterday because they knew from a relabile source.

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19 Apr 2016 06:44:59
I think the reason people are mentioning larsson so much is that they just want something to cheer about. We all need a lift but as much as I would love him to come and for it all to work out I've thought about it now and what we need is a clear out from top to bottom nothing will change I. Regards to signing players as long as lawell and park are still there. At this point I don't even know who should get the job there is nobody jumping out of any calibre that I think will be another puppet. What kind of atmosphere and crowd size do you think will be there on Sunday?

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19 Apr 2016 09:10:38
All I will say is Super Ally. Worshiped as a player reviled as a manager. Ally had worked with the Scotland squad and under the guidance of a reasonably successful manager at rangers.
I would hate that to happen to Henrik and he has no track record that justifies offering him the job.
Being a great player does not mean a great manager. too many examples.
McNeil has better credentials than some names mentioned.

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19 Apr 2016 06:41:05
Reading some reports this morning that a deal has been struck for RD to leave at the end of the season. For me he should've been away before leaving hampden on Sunday. Most people's opinion of Ronny is the same, nice guy, says all the right things but for whatever reason if we're being totally honest just hasn't worked out. Peter lawell also needs to put his hands up big time for what's gone on these last two seasons, it was his and the boards choice to yet again go for the cheap option in bringing RD in. If these reports are true and they surely must be then I can only hope the board, lawell and more importantly dermot Desmond get the right man in this time whoever that man may be. They cannot afford to get it so badly wrong again. RD JC and JK should by no means be the only ones to leave the club. The people who employed them ie lawell etc need to take a long hard look at themselves and ask" have we done everything we could've these last 2/ 3/ 4 years as good as we should've" and finally those players who for whatever reason seem to be not interested in playing for the jersey " which no matter what we think of RD etc" they can ship up and ship out also. Would your Browns, johansen's, etc be strolling about the park with not a care in the world whilst playing for a Lennon, strachan, or dare I say someone like a Roy kean? Absolutely no chance .

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18 Apr 2016 23:54:34
Hey there bhoys not posted in a good few months but i'm back and enjoying reading everybody's point of view and its been very apparent for maybe past year that we have been divided in our support of ronny the clown deila me myself was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but really how far have we went backwards we are so bad its unreal we even struggled to beat East Kilbride cmon. I've been reading he will be here until the end of the season but we need this joke out now seriously. People have had there suggestions to who will be the next celtic manager if it was uptoo me a would have sent him packing right after that game and got wee Gordon Strachan in just for the last few games the players no he is going so are they actually going to respond to him the answer is no and haven't been for the whole length of time he has been in charge a wasted 2 years and gave the newco a chance against us when we really should have been light years ahead of that mob. Anyhow hail hail.

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19 Apr 2016 00:37:43
Greenandwhiteknight, I think u misread the seriousness of the situation if u put the blame down to one person . I try to be as loyal as possible to everyone employed at Celtic& want to encourage all and do my bit to build up confidence . The problems at Celtic cannot be laid at one man's door and I have no doubt that R D must go as soon as league is won. Others must go as well, most likely Collins and Kennedy but more importantl is the position above R D . In the ideal world our CEO would have to go but I think that is not going to happen and whether it does or not Park must be got rid of. He seems to have a very powerful position, hidden away from and protected from the fans . I think R D has been hung out to dry when others are more culpable . Please God get the changes made quickly and decisive and let us have confidence in new set-up.

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19 Apr 2016 00:58:20
Hey Chris didn't take u long u think i'm blind and haven't been watching what everybody else can see that wee have been very badly managed from top to bottom but ultimately it's the manager who gets the flack and the sack. Pl a don't know how much he is earning a year but I would think he probally highest earner at parkhead and there is no way he is leaving so unless it's back to the bad all days of sack the board which actually might need doing ill settle right now for that clown deila out and that's only for starters the hole club needs shaken up from top to bottom.

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19 Apr 2016 22:55:51
MR P Lawwell is earning approximately 4/ 5 times what R D is earning . Many of our higher paid players are also earning as much or more than P L .
Getting rid of your clown R D won't make any appreciable difference. If we want to have any chance of appointing a decent. Manager PL will have to either leave or step aside . Probably won't happen but within 2 years you will be calling manager a clown.

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20 Apr 2016 01:19:52
Haha Chris wonder if deila is your twin brother make some circus act the pair of use.

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