Celtic Banter Archive October 18 2020

18 Oct 2020 19:56:48
4-3-2-1
When defending 4-5-1
When attack 4-3-3
What's everyones thoughts?

18 Oct 2020 20:16:00
I'd do a 5 3 2 1
Or a 4 5 2
Or a 3 5 1 2

And hope thet nobody notices

I'd also play bain and barkas together, and in all likelihood I think we'd get away with that too.

18 Oct 2020 20:31:48
Needs a settled team and stop changing it play the winners stop trying to please every player have players who do there job keep to that we have enough quality there to beat anybody but he keeps changing the side sevco picks itself we should be the same players must choose if there good enough or not he has enough depth to put it together and results will tell there is a severe problem needs to be put to bed and keep the same team Rodgers done it he needs to stop being nice and be mean to win you need to be ruthless Aberdeen will be hard but he can't keep changing needs to know his team and anybody else must fight hard to play in his team.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on 👍 I said similar on a thread earlier on.}

18 Oct 2020 21:17:41
Get a settled team and use the players that can play at a high tempo from start to finish. Not this walking pace we are playing at the min. When we have played our best in any season it's a high tempo and quick and accurate passing and movement to create chances. We are far to easy to play against at the min.

18 Oct 2020 23:44:40
Lenny is doing the same as the greatest manager we have ever had, in that, he has a system, a formation, tactics in his head, that he read about in the same book as Ronnie, that means you have a formation, a system that means getting the players to play this system, because it has been proven by all the best footballing brains in the world, that the system works, it says so in the book, and the book was written by experts, so it's not really Lennys fault, it says in the book, that you play this player in that position, and do not worry, if it is not that players best position, because Allah will make it all right, and Lenny should be allowed to carry on, if he continues to read the book and follow all the guidances, he will surely become our greatest ever manager after Ronnie, praise him, praise him.

19 Oct 2020 13:05:57
I suggested a 4-3-2-1 before the derby game. If only one striker was fit then we could've had two CAM in behind to support him but also drop back and overrun the midfield out of possession. Moi and Turnbull in behind a striker would've been far more creative than we actually set up as well as bossing the middle of the park and not leaving gaps behind the wing backs.

18 Oct 2020 09:11:55
Ed are you of the same persuation that lennon must go before this gets much worse. We need a tactical manager not one who wants to constantly pass the buck. Well Mr Lennon the BUCK stops with you. Please don't let the door hit you on your way out
Mr Lawell get the fans a manager who can actually manage a football team and someone who has more than a plan a. Because if you don't there maybe a backlash then you will be next out the door.

{Ed007's Note - Lennon won't be going anywhere any time soon. What he needs to do
is decide what his best formation is and his best starting XI regardless off who ends up on the bench or out the picture, any trouble makers should be reminded that they are playing for Celtic and if they can't respect what that means and act professionally then they won't be playing until they buck up their ideas or get their move.
Watching the game again earlier and it's as if the players don't know their job in the formation, is the manager making it clear what he wants from them or is the constant pointless passes because the players don't know what the gameplan actually is?}

18 Oct 2020 19:10:34
Hi Ed it’s clear watching us on the park the players don’t know what there actual roles are in the formation and with that can’t execute whatever Lennons plan is within the set up! Players looked scared to gamble or go out from there own position and create something.

{Ed007's Note - I used to blame it on the fact Brown was the one controlling our tempo and gameplay but it's not that, it's a bigger problem. Yesterday reminded me of those CL qualifiers where we came up against teams we should be beating but they are better organised and well drilled in what their individual jobs on the park are.
Lennon's team selection was bizarre to say the least and is it really that big a deal that the team was leaked? Imagine MON bothering about his team getting leaked, a daft man could predict his teams if everyone was fit. Again the problem is NL doesn't know his best XI and his tinkering when it's not needed and playing players out of position isn't helping anyone - especially him.}

18 Oct 2020 19:16:39
A didn’t think a could get more depressed until I read you say Lennon won’t be going anywhere soon.

{Ed007's Note - I'll email you later on mate, I'm not long getting online 👍 I can't see him resigning and no way will DD or Lawwell pull the plug because of some iffy performances and losing to TRIFC. To be fair he should be given time to sort out his own mess. Playing Milan next isn't going to help but as I said when the draw was made I don't expect us to get many points there, our focus now needs to be on maintaining our domestic dominance. As soon as we went out the CL that should have been drilled into the players heads imo. Getting into the CL would make money and raise the Club and players profiles but being part of a team that 10 in a row, a potential quadruple and then fifth straight Treble would make these players famous and immortalised for the rest of eternity.
My spidey senses were sent a twinkle when I read that DD had spoken about getting some kind of sports psychologist in and Lennon kind of agreed, why would we need that if Lennon's strengths is motivating players?}

18 Oct 2020 19:56:09
Ed that was DD being diplomatic? He must look at squad size and annual wage bill and wonder why we stagnate and don't progress. The reality ( the brutal truth) . is that a decent manager can take a mediocre team up a level, a good manager up another level and a great manager can work wonders even where talent is limited. Obviously great managers and great players at their disposal equals dynamite. We have a good level of experience and decent to good players and a poor manager. A poor, lost, unsure manager can do a lot of damage and this is what is happening I think. I don't know, but that is what I think.

If in doubt you hope that there are enough leaders on the field to make up the deficit. I don't see Brown in that role. I don't enjoy listening to brown's interviews either. They are lazy answers to decent questions. Lennon is a walking talking contradiction week to week which means that he is either forgetful, stupid, or thinks we are all stupid with limited recall.

This is SERIOUS.

18 Oct 2020 20:58:55
Maybe there are too many players at PH and it's a helluva job man-managing those who think they should be playing and perhaps that's where the problem lies. I'm a part-time Transport Manager with various companies and I find it hard listening to all the moaning going on and trying to pacify and motivate them at the same time. Lennon has it tight working with them on a daily basis but he's paid a helluva lot more than I do. I think holding onto them for the season will backfire. There has to be a freshening of the squad in January with more players leaving than coming in - and the ones coming in have to be better than those leaving.

18 Oct 2020 16:20:25
I’m away to watch Gareth Bale sitting on the bench. That’s all that league is worth watching for.

18 Oct 2020 18:06:47
I wonder what the specification of the bench is for it to be good enough for an bum that gets 650k a week.

18 Oct 2020 18:28:08
Even high priced hookers bums don't earn that much hh.

18 Oct 2020 19:57:13
Thank god I'd be bankrupt a million times over.

18 Oct 2020 21:42:05
He came on at 3-0, drew 3-3 haha.

18 Oct 2020 14:14:59
If and this is a big If NL leaves who do we replace him with.
I say a big if because PL and DD choose NL and they are not men who admit mistakes
I don't believe in going back therefore no to WGS or MON . Nor do I think untried to be the answer so no
John Kennedy or Roy Keane.
I would be interested in any thoughts.

18 Oct 2020 14:32:04
Conversation for another day as Lennon isn't going anywhere, he is here for 10 in a row.

18 Oct 2020 14:54:57
Hope not.

18 Oct 2020 15:12:06
Some Celtic supporters on here are very sore losers. We got beat fair and square. Lose 1 game and out comes the sack Lennon brigade. Give me a break .

18 Oct 2020 15:19:55
Thats not why . the majority of us are not that fickle, contrary to what some would think

This is about progress and momentum and NL is regressive and players are rejecting his ways.

18 Oct 2020 15:37:00
Beaten fair n square? they have been outplayed outfought and outfought in last 3 games against them get the blinkers off and realise Lennon is an imposter ye could put 15 seats and 10 wheels on him and still not make a coach out him.

18 Oct 2020 15:37:35
What evidence do you have that the celtic players are rejecting his ways or that he has been regressive at Celtic?

Or is this just an unsubstantiated opinion?

18 Oct 2020 15:49:14
LennonAtwork. name me one player who he has improved over his 18 month tenure. I could name 6 who have regressed.

18 Oct 2020 16:06:22
It’s not just jumping on the bandwagon on yesterday’s result it’s been pretty much every game this season bar the opening game. Players look disinterested and not motivated where as trying to make history this year should make them even more motivated! I really think Lenny should see this and step aside. Get MON in to get us over the line for 10 then evaluate it next summer cos what is happening now is not working.

18 Oct 2020 16:11:02
We have lost one game and we were 13 points in front last season we have bought in quality in no players left we have not had a full team out and you want him to leave he put Welsh in the team as he was strapped sevco had the same team out for all the games one player in the Scotland squad we got banned for 2games and you want him to leave what if we beat sevco we have a game in hand i can't believe what else lennon can do basically am totally shocked I hope he makes the doubters eat there words again.

18 Oct 2020 16:26:49
He will not walk and won't be sacked after yesterdays embarrassment; as Celtic are a club that usually react after the event, like 'the last straw' - same as they did with RD.
At present we are a shadow of the team we should be, but still have a very important two weeks coming up with EL and two games v. Aberdeen, that could shape the entire season - and his future.
We are all very angry and worried about the current situation and as I say the club will not sack the manager right now, but there needs to be some clear-the-air/ mediation to address discontent and sort out the malcontent moles and disruptive elements.
The transfer window doesn't open again until January, but these players will never attract suitor clubs playing like this or impress potential managers by being trouble making ass holes.
Neil Lennon also has to drop the stubbornness and look at his own team selections, tactics and closest advisors who offer hee-haw.

18 Oct 2020 16:39:57
Rapalla we have been out played, outfought and out thought the last 4 games maybe more, we have lost the last 3. They have just beat us consecutively twice at home for the first time in 25 years and the last one we didn't even have a shot at goal, do you think this is acceptable?
There is a downward trend here and I don't think he knows how to stop it, that is the worrying thing for me. His job is to get the best out the players, ok I get that anyone can make a mistake with selection or whatever it happens all the time. But to sit and do nothing about it is criminal, don't you think?

18 Oct 2020 17:12:51
Royjac73. Said it in a nutshell.

18 Oct 2020 17:51:55
Rapalla. You are of course entitled to your opinion and it is as equally valid as mine or anybody else's. I have never thought NL a good manager. Tactically naive and inept. Also, can you honestly, as a fellow Celtic supporter, tell me that you were happy when the camera panned to him yesterday and he was sitting there slouched over like someone who had just got out of bed when he should have been trying to urge the team on? I certainly wasn't. No dignity and discipline and that permeates throughout the squad. As I say only my opinion.

18 Oct 2020 18:19:18
We will NOT get 10iar if Lennon remains manager infact if he is still manager of our great club in January we will not win 10iar. Sevco self imploded last year after Christmas it was little to do with us if at all any one thinking otherwise is kidding themselves they played us of the park easy last 2 games up to Christmas we can't rely on that happening again for this season.

18 Oct 2020 20:08:35
Lennonsoontobeoutofwork it is really quite simple

All season I have been saying that performances will eventually catch up with us, they generally always do and eventually the lucky tap runs dry

His job and the job of his coaching team is to

Iron out the creases week to week
Find solutions
Establish a playing style
Consolidate around a formation
Develop a plan B and plan C
Develop player strengths and address weaknesses
Communicate effectively with fans
Make celtic an attractive proposition
Create pathways for youth ( linked to positive 1st team culture and momentum)

Thats the job
That is why he is paid 1m a year
The most important job at celtic park is that of the manager's

We don't have one that is meeting the job criteria at the moment

And yes, we may go on to win every trophy this season and the 10iar

Its possible

But based on what I am witnessing and hearing, i think it is looking less likely

I dobt dislike the man
Far from it

But we deserve a team on the park and a manager and coaches in the dug out that leave it all out there on the park and on the sidelines

We stepped forward this year and gave them the financial platform to deliver 10iar

" we are out here for you. he in there for us "

Simples.

18 Oct 2020 22:44:26
Iam beginning to wonder in Lenny can spell B and C let alone have a plan for it.

19 Oct 2020 04:52:09
@LubomirWho - You seem to have side stepped the question so still awaiting the evidence to back up your claim. However, I won't hold my breath as I know it is just an unsubstantiated opinion, which you are trying to pass off as fact.

18 Oct 2020 12:43:14
Hi guys first time posting anything on here. Been a fan of all the posts and banter for a while so finally joined! Just wanted to share my thoughts on where Celtic are just now especially after yesterday's dismal performance.

I've always tried to remain positive even after defeat but yesterday's result in my opinion has always been coming. We haven't got going at all this season maybe apart from a decent win home to Hibs. My opinion we played right into rangers hands with the formation and shape. We invited them on to us and allowed them to control the game without getting out of 2nd gear. The lack of fight from the players was alarming to me and can easily suggest all is not well within the camp!

Lennon did amazing to get us over the line when Rodgers jumped ship and to secure the treble was commendable given the circumstances. But I genuinely believe we haven't improved as a team in the 18mths or so since he has been back? I don't see much improvement in any players under his stewardship? I understand we were missing key players with injuries and C.V. etc but even so that doesn't make it right the team don't give everything on the pitch and not give up without a fight! His reluctance to give new players a run in the team annoys me too! Why did we bother signing turnbull? Exciting young talent to sit on the bench, Soro too not even getting a sniff! Sorry for the long post got more on my mind but will stop there for now lol! Any reply will be appreciated👍.

18 Oct 2020 13:00:30
That is a great post, fair and balanced and clearly coming from someone who wants the best for Celtic

We have not improved over past 18 months and that's the thing that hurts the most!

Also, we are a little feckless and lacking hunger and desire to make that run or make that tackle. we have a team low on commitment and motivation at present and I'm afraid the only catalytic thing we can do to create any kind of change ( no guarantee it would be positive mind you) is a change in leadership/ manager

It's odd having a manager who is very unlikely to leave celtic for another job . why. is that? He is a yesterday man who should move on to a TV career or journalism/ punditry

Even EVEN scotland have a shape and some kind of momentum and mojo about them . that for me says it all really.

18 Oct 2020 13:00:54
Oh, and welcome to the site as a contributor.

18 Oct 2020 13:59:53
Spot on post jicer, the problem with turnbull and Soro is that for some reason unbeknown to himself ntcham can do no wrong. I’d like someone to tell me the last good game ntcham played. Aye he got the goal against lazio giving us a great result but I’m talking a full 90 minute performance. Turnbull and soro must be so far off it if they can’t get in that team ahead of ntcham on current form.

18 Oct 2020 14:18:24
Garry maybe ntcham is just better . which is a major problem.

18 Oct 2020 14:31:47
Great post jicer!
Garry no chance is Ntcham better than Turnbull Iv never been a fan of Ntcham and couldn’t understand the fuss Turnbull has the potential to be a star. Ntcham blows hot and cold too often and goes missing when going gets tough.

18 Oct 2020 15:46:52
A balanced post Jicer and welcome to the madhouse.
Lennon won't walk as it's not in his character and to be fair if he did it wouldn't do his future job prospects any good.
The decision to replace him is one that lies squarely with DD and PL and as much as I think its needed, I doubt it will happen.
NL was a bargain basement replacement for BR, he was available and had been over the course when he stepped in and did a very good job in delivering the Treble.
Celtic have never been good at planning ahead whether it be players or coaches leaving, we always seem to get caught out and it's then a case of making the best of what we've got or what we can scrape around to get and usually on the cheap.
We shouldn't forget that PL made something like 9M on the back of BR and his backroom staff heading back to Engerland.
So, the status quo will remain until it either falls apart completely and the 10 is lost and by that time it will be too late or NL manages to get a system that works again and the players playing to their ability and we can watch the same old movie next season.
I genually believe as supporters we have been short changed time and time again down through the years. Some on this site (a good bit older than myself) will remember how Jock Stein was treated and that was under the old regime that robbed the club for years (Grants/ Whites/ Kellys) f@#k the lot of you!
We deserve better than NL and I also believe (and it's well documented) that NL is not befitting as a Manager of our great club.

18 Oct 2020 16:08:16
Thanks for the comments guys sounds like I am minded the same as a few of you👍 I don’t feel I’m jumping the gun and it’s not a knee jerk reaction to one defeat off our rivals yesterday. I’ve seen the decline in players and our play for months now but Lennon hasn’t and looks like he doesn’t know how to change it. Even the subs Lennon made yesterday were too late and also was no change to our play or shape with the different personnel. Turnbull should have been on that park before rogic my opinion. Too many players look comfortable as they know they’re certain starters no matter how bad they play. We always seem to be waiting on ntcham producing the goods but he. very rarely does these days. He has regressed so much under Lennon it’s frightening but again what do we expect when these types of players can’t get a proper run in the team to gain form and confidence? We need a freshness in the middle of park and players like Soro and turnbull deserve that chance to give us it. Lennon bought them so I don’t know why he won’t give them a chance?

18 Oct 2020 16:20:08
DRB it is the managers job to install the belief and confidence into these guy's to make them believe they are better and deserve to be at Celtic, to be knocking the door down to get into the team and then play them. Is he doing that? I certainly don't see any evidence of it, I see nothing but no plan and mixed messages being sent out. Confusion It creates chaos, that is exactly what we are seeing is it not?
For starters Ntcham shouldn't be anywhere near the club after publicly stating 18 months ago he wanted out.

18 Oct 2020 18:45:11
Been saying for weeks imo brown mac cham does not work again imo hh.

18 Oct 2020 19:24:54
To be totally honest Garry I never rated Ntcham that highly anyway.

I think he is an average player, slows the game down to much and doesn't have an attribute to stand out in our midfield.

You have brown (who if this hadn't been our 10 in a row season, should be sitting on the bench now. He is to slow, limited creativity and other than his hunger and determination offers very little to our midfield.

Cal Mcgregor is the top quality midfielder in our team, although I think others around him are making his role difficult. He can tackle, he has a variety of passes, he can shoot, he can run and create. Christie has dropped his form recently but when on his game and consistent, he offers drive, creativity, he can give you something out of nothing, physically he's fantastic for the team. Which leaves us with the choice?

I think Christie (if form returns) and mcgregor are the only 2 certs for centre mid, we need to either bring turnball, soro or even Moi into that group. 1 of them needs to be the key ntcham, brown (rotation) and rogic are no longer first team quality. The sooner lennon realises that the better.

I think we need to play a more fluid interchanging formation between 3232, 5311, 433. We should be able to change formation through the game to upset our opponents style of play and offer different opportunities through the game. This season we have been flat, 1 dynamic and predictable. Lennon needs to get things sorted or step down if he can't deliver. But as I said after the 1 game in hand there should only be a point in it and its not even the end of October plenty of time.

18 Oct 2020 12:30:36
A great servant to the club as a player and manager but, for me, Neil Lennon's time is up. There are lots of rumours that he's lost the dressing room, etc. but let's treat that for what it is just now - an unproven rumour.
so that aside here's my honest opinion.
for weeks now (Hibs game aside) we have been putting in real lacklustre performances and lucky last minute winners have been simply papering over cracks. My main issue is that Lennon seems unable or unwilling to adapt to the reality of form and make the necessary changes.
Yesterday is a great example - if you only have one fully fit striker then don't play with two up front. why play players out of position? also, I think anyone watching the match could see after 20 mins it wasnt working. They were doubling up on Frimpong who was getting very little assistance from a very very poor Ntcham and McGregor who were both terrible yesterday. a change was needed. We should have switched to a 451 moved Ajer to RB to support Frimpong at RW wjich would have helped.

18 Oct 2020 18:49:44
Said to my sons halfor time take welsh of bring on Taylor switch ajer to help frimpong hh.

18 Oct 2020 11:50:10
All this nonsensence about lennon losing the dressing room and not having a clue what he is doing was spouted after last new years defeat.

However it turned out the players were just tired and after a well needed rest they came back and showed what they were capable off.

Big Forster aside, we are stronger in every position this season and I am confident the players will use this pain and criticism to bounce back and do the same.

18 Oct 2020 11:54:39
Send on to me whatever it is you are consuming

Email to follow.

18 Oct 2020 12:10:47
Don't think players can be tired in October, after two International Breaks that several players were spared, a two-week suspension imposed by the Scottish Government, were no games were played and guys like Soro, Turnbull, Rogic and Griff who actually need games?
I find it very hard to draw any parallels to last December's defeat just before the winter break and yesterday and why the form and attitude of these same players is night and day from last term?

18 Oct 2020 12:24:03
Do we really have a better first 11 than when Rodgers was at club?

Moi better than Sinclair?
Duffy, Julian better than boyata?
The new strikers better than Dembelle?
Barkas better than Gordon?
I really don’t know if we are better off.

18 Oct 2020 12:41:14
we had better players when rodgers was here, who picks who we buy is lennon part of it or does he just have to work with the guy's he gets.

18 Oct 2020 12:46:18
What is very concerning is a few seasons ago Ronny Deila questioned players fitness levels and Neil Lennon publicly slated Deila during his unveiling press conference at Bolton. Fast forward a few seasons and hey presto we have the same problems!

We have a good squad however doesn't matter if players are not going to get a look in.

18 Oct 2020 13:05:47
It is also true that a player lacking hunger and motivation and commitment, NO MATTER their CV, experience and alleged value, is rendered useless and surplus to what is required when the DESIRE evades them.

18 Oct 2020 14:25:48
@ryancelt - apart from his first season and a half sinclair was not performing and he only played 2 games forus last season.

Boyata was not at Celtic last season.

Dembele was notat Celtic last season.

Barkas is a moot point as i already stated Forster was the one player who was better.

@celtic_mad - nearly our full starting 11 were on international duty. This meant that lennon got hardly any time to work with them before the match and they were more tired than their rangers counter parts. Not to mention we lost 4 players who would have normally started.

18 Oct 2020 11:33:43
So if the majority want lenny out who do we get in av heard Eddie Howe mentioned might be a good shout. but knowung lawell he'll give it to big Kennedy. We're at a crossroads he thinks. ir we assess once everyone is back and fit. could sevco have performed without 5 or 6 if there main men?

18 Oct 2020 11:48:30
Its madness why turn on your team and manager all good teams lose we lost and we were beaten but there's plenty in front one game really we walked it last season players will find form we have plenty i can't understand what Lennon has done wrong top teams lose but still win the league I know this team will be strong the international did not help and that's o excuse but these people who want lennon away were praising his name last season very strange why not kiss the badge like real celtic supporters stop thinking negative there's plenty football still to be played.

18 Oct 2020 11:48:47
Mally they have outplayed us by a country mile last 3 games there is little excuse for yesterday. Lenny is running a good team in to a bad one.

18 Oct 2020 11:50:05
Its got nothing to do with the players missing and take a look at the team with no heart and no passion.

Old firm games we need passion which was lacking in Ntcham, look at the 2008 game were Barry Robson wiped out Christian Daily and much more recent Jozo on Miller.

Where was that yesterday not one shot on target whole game, it wasn't working at half time that's when Ntcham should have been hooked or even in the first half and that's down to the manager.

18 Oct 2020 11:52:02
Mally, perhaps not but I think they would have played with more bite and fight and commitment?

18 Oct 2020 13:02:46
You have to blame the manager, could anyone see what Celtic were actually trying to do yesterday There was no clear game plan, we had 3 in the middle of the pitch but were playing like we had 2. When they got the ball in wide positions they were 2 against 1 every time, when we tried to get the ball wide they had doubled up and they was no room.

Again they out fought us, they worked harder, they wanted it more and for me that comes from the manager. They have built a team who work for each other and the manager and the fans, while we on the other hand have 4 of our top players who want to leave. The manager said it himself not so long ago, he has allowed them to stay in the team instead of removing unhappy players with the result being the kind of performances we are seeing this season. There are big problems, the level of professionalism that we are used to seeing just isn't there. To save the season there are a couple of options, wait till next window and remove the players that want away however by then it might be too late or remove the manager now and give a fresh injection to the club a reset button if you like. My choice would be to remove him now and replace him. Do I think that will happen no I dont, I also love NL as a club legend but it is plain to see he has lost the dressing room in the same way he did at Hibs before he came back.
I think I would like to see Dan Petrescu who has Cluj punching well above their weight in Europe just now with the budget they have, difficult to play against and good on the break. I've seen Eddie Howe mentioned and yes I think that is a fair shout, not really sure he could handle the expectation though I could be wrong. Something has to be done or we are going to blow this.

18 Oct 2020 13:18:59
the thing fail to grasp is when players don't want to be here why do they down tools, my thoughts would be to play out of my skin to attract offers for me.

18 Oct 2020 14:07:49
Maybe NL they aren't getting to leave and to suck it up, can be only reason I can think of.

18 Oct 2020 14:30:39
@royjac - we did have 2 in midfield as ntcham was like a man down.

18 Oct 2020 15:30:59
Lenninatwork. who picked him and left him on the park for most of the game . keep up mate.

18 Oct 2020 16:30:17
That is exactly my point LAW

Tony they have actually played us off the park in the last 4 matches although we managed to win the semi final due to the great wall.

18 Oct 2020 10:31:35
From starting the season 2/ 5 fav to win the league Celtic are now 2nd favourite 11/ 10 with the rangers now installed as 4/ 5 favourites.
Now the bookies aren't daft and will know if we win our game in hand we would be only 1 point behind so I wonder why such a big shift in the odds?
On a plus side, for those who think Celtic will win the league by 10 points, you should get pretty good adds on that now!

18 Oct 2020 11:43:21
The biggest factor will be loads of jubilant sevconites betting on their team to win the league after yesterday's result.

Search for weight of money if you want to learn more.

18 Oct 2020 11:48:52
Nothing to do with what they know mate just go with the money coming in . the monkeys would have been lumping on last night.

18 Oct 2020 12:48:49
LennonAtWork I'm quite clued up on how the betting industry works.
Obviously the weight of money changes and reflects the current odds and yes a lot of the bets placed will be by their fans but not all of them. There will be neutral punters who watch Scottish football also betting that lot to win the league now.
Now that we are such generous odds why aren't out fans placing their money on us winning the league? Simple, because the majority aren't confident of winning it anymore.
My point here is that we have went from being strong favourites to second favourites and our odds have been drifting for a while now due to sub standard performances. Unfortunately I couldn't disagree with the odds at he moment.
I really hope we get a change of management and not another 'clear the air meeting' with everything said to be rosey again after it.

18 Oct 2020 10:21:53
Sack the board, sack the manager and sack all the players, and breatheeeeeeee. Bit of perspective, it's 3 points regardless of opposition (irritating that it's them) but all our ails are self inflicted. We have good football players and we ALL know that because we know from experience what they are capable off, regardless of some wanting to scapegoat individuals. So, the problem lies with how they are being deployed (surely can't all be off form at the same time) and that is the sole responsibility of the manager.
If he is unwilling, unable or incapable of making the necessary changes to reverse things, then he should be removed. He still has time to alter this, but what's on offer at the moment is clearly not good enough.
Our club used to be famed for our attacking flare, now we play like a mid 80s Italian outfit and we're not even very good at that.
We will still win the 10, just making bloody hard work of it.

18 Oct 2020 12:52:07
I wish I shared your optimism Chas.

18 Oct 2020 17:11:23
What else is there? 🤷.

18 Oct 2020 10:07:09
OK the dust has settled but it's time for a reality check. NL must be sacked NOW. I do not want to see any man lose his job but we will not win the league imho if he is manager. I did not want him kept on after coming in. It was a total incompetent piece of corporate governance by doing it. but surely even the NFL fan boys now see the man is totally inept and tactically incompetent? Pistol Pete must step up and do the job he is handsomely and richly paid for. NL won't go voluntarily as this will be his last "big" job in football. Do the correct thing Now.

18 Oct 2020 07:06:59
I really hope that the board are looking for a new manager now and get Lenny out quick as possible no way knee jerk reaction The man is not good enough to manage Celtic.

18 Oct 2020 07:39:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th October 2020