Celtic Banter Archive April 18 2012

18 Apr 2012 20:14:35
Fed up with all the abuse lenny is taking maybe he shouldnt have ran on to the pitch but ffs big cesar attacked a journalist on a plane and you never heard this much about it

Big Billy also stuck one on that f@nny Gerry McNee.

Same thing wasnt it I mean it WAS gerry mick knee, here ahd luv tae wack that big lump ed {Ed007's Note - Billy McNeill had run ins with a few journalists over the years. I thought it was at the airport, not on a plane, when he gave McNee a black eye. Maybe one of the older guys or Mrs E will know better.}

Ed007; I always thought the aggro started on the plane,but mcnee would not let it go and mcneill lamped him off the plane airside...........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

18 Apr 2012 19:39:48
Andy walker you get tae f dont let this c back near parkhead
Hes a wrong un,.,.,.kbarry

What has walker done now? Charlie nicknucles was ganching too!.... TTTS

Problem with old firm fans is they don't like reading the truth, the guy is only saying what he thinks, what's wrong with that?

18 Apr 2012 18:44:21
here hansum hiv ye seen that wee torag pat the day ed he didnae cum hame last nite n am up tae hi do wundrin wherma wajis ur cos wur doon tae wur last £ 3.5 mil, ed n av goat a lifestile thit needs tae be mane taintit, here ur you stull shavin yur bits big boy?
pissttttt, if ye see that wee nyaff tell um heez histury ed, listun if yur no daen anything latur oan then av goat nuthin oan ed............
your favrit wee vera kisses oan the bottum,
here vera junyur pass me the strimmur av goat a mrs NG cumin in it 7:30 fur a vajazzle, so pit sum new nylun cord oan it,oh n cleen the safity gogguls tae,n aye ye dae huv tae weer the high viz jaekit,aye n the steel toe caps tae!!!!!
we dont waant mrs NG tae think wur no profeshinuls noo dae we,
here vera ur you sure ye spelt hur name rite NG?,here bah hope ah dont make a PGS arse ae it ed, remembur bring a bottul this time luvur bhoy///cu soon {Ed007's Note - A bottle of what? Dettol??}

18 Apr 2012 15:00:20
Black is caught by Charlie Mulgrew in a tackle, for which the referee awards a foul. At the same time, Black continues play and goes in on Ledley to try and win the ball, catching the Celtic player high on the shin.

In deciding what card should be shown to Black for the challenge, the referee would consider whether the player has been “reckless” or has used “excessive force”.

“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent. A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned

“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent. A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

Thanks fur that shug daliss

18 Apr 2012 14:58:52
Ledley/Wanyama handball incidents

Both Celtic players made contact with the ball using their hand/arm in quick succession.

Marius Zaliukas’ shot is hit direct at Joe Ledley, who is a distance of two yards away when the ball is kicked. The Celtic player pulls his left arm across his chest, turning his body to the side. The ball then ricochets down off his arm, which is in a natural position.

After the ball hits Ledley’s arm, it bounces to the ground. Victor Wanyama, who has also turned to protect himself from the shot, allows his momentum to continue, with his arms returning to their natural position in a downwards motion. Contact is then made with the bouncing ball with his hand.

First and foremost, a player is not deemed to have handled the ball unless they have deliberately played the ball with their hand or arm.

In determining whether or not a player has committed an offence, a referee is obliged to take a number of factors into consideration. Quoting the Laws of the Game, they include:

- the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
- the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
- the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
- touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
- hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement

18 Apr 2012 13:34:57
Team for murderwell. Forster
Wamyama,rogne,Mulgrew
Matthews,Mcgeough,Brown,Ledley,Izzaguire,
Mccourt,hooper.
I would hope this would lead to a stronger midfield with the bonus of hooper and paddy playing right on top of the well defence.I also think it is very fluent with regards to subs and shape.Obviously kayal,ki etc would be available and i think that might keep everyone fresh and on it every game. 4 4 2 is outdated.This allows, when possible,four midfield players to attack and a front two to play up on the last defenders

18 Apr 2012 11:50:02
Just a thought.If,as i have been led to believe,Brian Kennedy is a Catholic,Would this not be a golden chance to stop the sectarian chants at ipox?If rankers do end up in his hands,surely he could lay down the law and tell them it will not be tolerated,or a liquidation event will be forthcoming.I think this would finally end this rubbish for ever.Looking at the gers pages i find it very encouraging the amount of decent fans who are tired of this ulster nonsense............green jhedi

Wishful thinking GJ,bigotry runs through most of their veins mate,the whole stadium belts it out week in week out

As a rangers fan i would love this nonsense to stop, i feel that there is too much bile spouted by supporters of rangers,celtic,hearts,aberdeen for it to be as simple as that. it is drummed into some people from a young age and it can't be shifted. to the unnamed poster it is not belted out by the whole stadium the same as the whole of parkhead doesn't belt out pro IRA songs, its only the morons that sing those songs.

DJ

Trouble that this brings us into is that people sing ira songs because they believe that politically all of ireland should be a free state. Bigorty is one thing but who decides which political ideas you can believe in?
i dont fancy the government and police saying what political ideals i can and cannot hold. {Ed001's Note - so hold them at home and keep them away from football.}

@DJ;If the morons on both sides stopped and thought what they are doing to their kids you would hope that would be enough.

In reply to ed, celtic was made on the political idea that every child deserves a food. should brother walfrid kept that idea at homepeople try and make teams into the political idea of wearing poppies should teams which agree with poppies not wear them? {Ed001's Note - are you for real? It is 2012, move on, the idea wasn't to politicise football, it was to help people.}

Well said Ed. This " its not bigotry its political " card is wearing thin. I have many political views but have never went to Parkhead to sing about them. Time to move on.......like 95% of Northern Ireland have already done.

Joeshmo1888

I agree if they thought about the damage they were doing to their kids they might stop..which is why i will not take my kid to certain games because of the bile that comes from both sides

DJ

I also believe that Ireland should be united but Celtic park is for supporting Celtic.You cannot take the moral high ground against rangers while this continues.I will admit it is not as bad as it was but there should be none.It's the same as the poppy nonsense that we get abused for every year,handing our detractors a stick to beat us with.I was and i still am of the opinion that the war in Iraq is illegal,but why blame soldiers? Yes there were shocking war crimes committed in Ireland by British soldiers,but this was before most of the current army were born.What about the Celtic fans in the Forces? Religion and politics should be kept away from a sporting venue.My own opinion as an anti-theist is religion should be banned as it seems to cause nothing but heartache the world over.Wear the white poppy to show respect to EVERY life lost in every war,cos let's be honest soldiers are cannon fodder for the elite to make money( Carlisle group,Blackwater etc) so why support that? Rant over,sorry ed,but this nonsense has gotta stop..........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - The whole poppy thing is an absolute joke. It has been dragged down to nothing more than petty point scoring between CFC and Rangers fans. Let's remember that it is a charity, whether people want to give money and wear a poppy is entirely their own choice. I never have or ever will wear one and nobody will tell me otherwise, I would much rather donate to a charity that means something to me like the McMillan Nurse or Cancer Research than be browbeat by a lot of PC bullsh1t.}

Why does celtic have a four leaf clover on the badge, why do celtic fans wave irish flags, because of the roots of the club, "its 2012" so we should get rid of any celtic history relating to ireland or the original roots of the club?
teams are their history, good and bad.
polticians are all to eager to jump into football with that summit last season.its impossible to get politics out of football because its a lot of people in a small space from mostly the same roots with a common history and purpose.

Celtic are a football club founded in circumstances that are unique.The Irish aspect should never be forgotten,indeed it should be celebrated.But remember one thing,The IRA of the early part of the century were heroes fighting a just cause.The IRA of the seventies were murderous terrorists who are of the same ilk of the loyalist gangs.My Grandfather was a freedom fighter and would be appalled at his and many more brave mens memories were being sullied by chanting at a football match..........green jhedi

Back to main post - Brian Kennedy is a Jehovah's Witness, not that religion should be part of the takeover bid or even be a reason as to why someone would be better or not. Looking for someone or group to be appointed solely because of their religion is wrong. {Ed007's Note - And yet it makes up almost 120 years of the Rangers history that they are so desperate to protect.}

Gj u brought up his religion and then says it has nothing to do with the sport!

@last poster; I only brought it up to make a point about the chances of reshaping the rangers fans as it might take something like that to do it.If you look at my other posts on this thread,i dont believe in any religion.....green jhedi

I am fed up with this. Just because i suport rangers there is an assumption that i am a raving biggot how go's around spending my every waking breath huntting out all catholics so as i can shout bile at them! the truth is that if you yourself have this view of me or anyone you do not even know , if this is your default possition then you are the one who has the problem, "reshaping" why do i need reshaped? the problem that surrounds our lives has fek all to do with the teams on the park, it has to do with the minds of the people, what they do at home and how the "shape" their children, intolarance is in every community, northern Ierland is testiment to that, To say its ok to sing the songs because they are political is to belittle the lifes lost at the hands of that orgonisation, next time the fans belt out yet another wee political gem, think about omagh, warington, and brighton, and maybe just maybe a mother who lost a child my just be listening in.
Wibblyblue

@wibblyblue; you honestly saying last years league cup final wasnt a disgrace? thats where the reshaping comment comes from.as i said,morons on both sides need to be educated,do you agree?.........green jhedi

Yes I do agree, not untill the fathers of the children stop this rubbish on both sides will it ever get any better, I have lots of Celtic supporting freinds I sit with them and talk football, I see the person not the strip, the religion, creed or colour of an individual don't define the human being. I will continue to love my club, I will continue to poke fun and make comment on all other clubs as this is the very thing that makes supporting your team so special, So next time you see me in my Blue top, stop and think that perhaps there goes a football fan not a bigot. Cheers Wibblyblue.

@wibblyblue; exactly right.people are people mate,i just abhor racism,sectarianism and any sort of hatred against other people.education starts in the home..........green jhedi

18 Apr 2012 11:05:26
is it true anthony stokes was shown a red card at hampden

18 Apr 2012 10:50:52
If Blackburn Rovers get relegated does anyone think it would be a smart move to go for Yakubu. I dont know if we would be priced out the market for him, but he is everything we should be looking for in a striker. Tall, strong, eye for goal and still not 30.

what do you ghuys and ghirls think?

YNWA

Not for me.Past his sell by date i think..........green jhedi

Yakubu was a very effective striker in his day. Crude but effective. Someone shelled out 18m for the guy about 3-4 years ago. Now he is as about as good as Craig Beattie. Why do we constantly clutch at straws regarding over the hill strikers and players. I agree we need some experience but a striker is a striker lack of experience affects them less than say a CB.

Hi its the OP here, I had the misfortune to watch the last 6 or 7 matches featuring Blackburn and let me tell you, if it wasnt for Yakubu they would have been relegated already. Imho I believe this guy would run amok up here and maybe would be in our price range, we have to be realistic too. hes a lot better than what we have already.

TonyBhoy

Yakubu is to good for spl, he will stay in epl.

If we were to sign any blackburn player i would go for the centre back hanley although i think there is quite a bit of interest from clubs already in the premiership in him and i dont think he would move up here davie c

If west ham don't get up , vas teh would do for me

Ska bhoy

18 Apr 2012 10:19:53
Dear Timalloy I think you will find you have lost that bet as I never took the time 2 read your post properly as you talk gobs**te & I have tied so many times 2 talk with you but you have had no answer 2 my superior knowledge of the beautiful game your contribution 2 these pages are tax & err tax because you know hee-haw about footballl you question my courage 2 answer about my teams failure 2 pay the ambulance service,lets get 1 thing straight here no RANGERS fan can beleive what people who have been running our club have not paid these people, not just the ambulance service but all the other people who have not been paid so yes I do hope the RFFF pay these people,I or no other RANGERS fan knew how these individuals were running our club but as you know we all heard things & the people involved denied them so what were we 2 do about it, the RST constantly harassed SDM & got nowhere & that is why now the fans want to engage with whoever takes over our club so that this can never happen again,I will now run this by you hearts owe how much 30 odd mill kilmarnock owe 10 mill & celtic are in 7 mill debt 6 mill more than when you's were about 2 be shut so are these teams all cheating aswell ok desmond tutu can bail you's out but why doesn't he just do it beacause he is quite happy & the bank is quite happy with the agreement they have but heh ho you's still are in debt 2 the tune of 7 mill thats 7 mill more than motherwell who have no debt so I think you's may be cheating but lets not split hairs,but lets get on 2 you now as I have said before your ED007 only answer's you 2 appease you because as I said at the top you talk gobs**te & don't know anything other than tax you try so hard 2 get people 2 like you your patter is s**te & the only good patter you have I know you copy me,so this is the last time I will reply 2 you as this was your first reply 2 me in ages & it was because I was suggesting you & the green 1 were batty bhoys so I hope this was a good enough reply 2 you because I know if the ball was on the other foot you would not come out your room till the big bad tax man went away,so it has been a pleasure winning this bet you made thanks for the challenge, I think it brought the best out of me & showed you up for what you are an oops forgot you don't like getting called bad names
NTYABOW

Zzzzzzzzzzz.......algarvebhoy

No one ever says been in debt is cheating

Has your full stop key broke?

TerribleBeauty

Dear me.What a load of incoherent nonsense.You may have a knowledge of football to rival the Fergies and Guardiola's of this world but you have a very loose grasp of the English language.Might i suggest an evening course in English perhaps?I am sure you could use the time you spend flirting with Tims on these pages more productively.Bhatty boys? There's that gay obsession again!!.........green jhedi

Naughtyboy, quite a long post, must haves taxed (oops sorry bad word to bears) your small brain...
So lets answer some of your issues, Celtic's debt like most clubs is managed in a correct way, ALL taxes accounted for and PAID. Debt will be eventually paid off or reduced.
Your directors (Rangers) ran up debts they knew they could not and would not pay, there is the first moral issue, these people YOUR PEOPLE DID NOT CARE.
I posted it was good that some fans were trying to pay off some of Rangers debts to local businesses, but again they did this out of EMBARRASSMENT, but fans like you should be putting pressure on both the club and administrators to pay off especially the charity debts and local authority debts.
As for the EBT issue if you care to engage in a reasoned debate, feel free to come back. But you only appear when Celtic have a problem, but disappear like snow off a dyke when YOUR TAX problems are mentioned. Timalloy
PS I had a wee wry smile at you saying I only post on Celtic site, even when you lot were giving it large over mind the gap and 4 IAR and the 15 point gap I was over there giving it large as we Tims do not hide. Hope to meet you in the cup next year as a third division team it will be a big moment for your fellow bears.

18 Apr 2012 13:23:59
Oh c'mon NTYABOW..you're clutching at straws with the Celtic debt. As you will see it reducing and overall the club are breaking even and as stated the bank debt remaind manageable and well within the club facilities. Its like buying your house using a mortgage..Celtic can easily make the repayments and well lets just say rangers couldn't.

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/297333-celtics-profits-fall-by-7m-while-bank-debt-cut/

Mrs E

2 the green1 I am so sorry I do not meet your police spelling standards, but you see I work nightshift & had no time 2 check my grammar for you, bit gay that worring about people's spelling but each 2 their own,thank you for talking about me in the same sentence as pep & fergie not quite at their standards yet but I am getting there,MRS E I was talking about celtic's debt tongue in cheek I know celtic are paying their debt 2 the bank but lets take kilmarnock who owe at least 10 mill they have an average of what attendance compared 2 RANGERS do you think they should be stripped of their cup win against you's,I know the RANGERS owners have done wrong & should be punished for it, but do me a favour ask Timalloy what he thought of mr lennon's tactics that day or any other day you's get beat or on that matter any day you's win also because no matter what, no RANGERS fan on this site can get him 2 talk about football because he doesn't know anything about it,hope the spelling was ok green 1
NTYABOW

NTYABOW in what way is it gay noticing spelling mistakes i have noticed many in my short life and i am sure many others have also and i dont think they feel gay about it i have a friend who is gay and i dont think he decided to come out after noticing some bad spelling lol
davie c {Ed007's Note - Has your friend ever commented on NL's clothes or appearance Davie? It's for a paper my nephew is doing at college about why Rangers fans have an unhealthy obsession with the CFC manager.}

NTYABOW..I don't think the comparison of Killie and rangers is realistic. Your ground holds over 50,000 whereas Killie is under 20,000 so they won't have the overheads rangers have for a start.

Its not a case of strip them of titles because they have debt, its more if they are found guilty of the whole 2 contracts debacle or the EBTs fiasco. This was an unfair way of paying players and probably breaking the rules.

I don't know about asking Tim's opinion on Neil Lennon either, i'm sure he's given it many times on here. What was your opinion of Ally's tactics when you exited the CL, Europa, league cup, Scottish cup & knocked off top spot at Celtic park after have a double figure lead ? Mrs E

Unfortunately ed he doesn't really like football and probably wouldn't know the difference between neil and john lennon lol davie c

@nblahblahbow; Once again you suffer from that old gers fans problem of selective reading.When did i mention spelling? I was primarily talking about the appalling way your post was put together(although your spelling does leave a lot to be desired) making it read like a load of incoherent babble.What i have noticed is that you never seem to post on your own site,why? If you would like to join the Celtic Family just come along as we are open to anybody.So dont sit in the dark,angrily bashing your keyboard,come and give the CHAMPIONS a try,you know you want to..............green jhedi

18 Apr 2012 10:11:43
Anyone any signing rumours for summer?
Here's what I think we need and who REALISTICALLY the board will look at:

Gk (fraser is my choice, if he doesn't sign-holy goalie rumours?)

Cb - big polish lad and another needed (loovens and wilson don't cut it)..Cuellar? Dunne?

Midfield we aren't far away, would still like an old experiences head in the squad for games we need to hold out..curve ball..Barry Robson?

I look forward to Mc Geouch and Forrest battling it out for RM.

CF
Russell mentioned, Kevin Davies, what about Fuller who I still think would do very well in Spl...I would then add another striker spending 3 / 4 million on dare I say it a Jelavic type. Our strikers being:
Hooper
Stokes
Russell /Fuller
4mill striker

Get rid of:
Loovens (free)
K Wilson (500k)
Rasmussen (anything!)
Murphy (500k)
Juarez (1.5mill)
Mc Court (1mill)
Mc Ginn (500k)
J¤Thompson (500k)
O Dea (free)
Cha (free)
Dan (free)
Towell (has he been sold?)
Bangura-ok gets a chance but needs to hit ground running
Ki-signs already of the contract talks are interesting, I think he'll go. (4/5mill)
Total: 8.5mill

Squad is far to big, get rid of 'deadwood' and replace with 2/3 QUALITY players and 3mill each.
Thoughts..

Ps as for that mess across Glasgow, let them rot, we've a champions league campaign and new season to plan for.HH

Robson is going to america for a couple years

Bankier bhoy aka canadian pete