Celtic Banter Archive September 17 2015

 

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17 Sep 2015 22:41:11
Well, that was pleasing-ish.

Thought we may have won the game had we kept the 11 men on the pitch, they didn't get the chances(Hitting post and free kick goal)until we went down to ten men. Seemed like we could have held on to the three points so a bit gutted but would have taken that before the game. Same result as last season away in the opening game against Salzburg and again it was a free kick we conceded at the 2-2 equaliser, spooky sometimes how football works.

Don't want to blow my own trumpet but as I said in my previous posts, Bitton and Lustig(If only he could last 90 mins)are our best players above the rest and both came up with the goods tonight getting the goals. But Bitton, what a player this guy is, his passing, shooting, technical ability, goal threat, reading and positioning of the game. We're really going to struggle to hold on to this lad and need to get him signed up to a new contract asap, that's now 4 goals he's got for us so far this season and it should be five as his goal was wrongly disallowed against Malmo. He also scored for his country as well so he's now adding goals to his game as well which for me was the only thing lacking in his game but now he's brought it he's almost the complete midfielder.

Now to assess some of the other players performances.

Gordon - Should do better for the second goal for me, flapping a bit although it was a tremendous delivery. Apart from that didn't have much to do but collected balls when needed and couldn't do anything with the first goal.

Simunovic - Was an OK debut, still only 21 and seemed nervous but that's understandable so will leave it at that.

Boyata - Performed better than usual but still a few stray passes and caught out of position a few times. Made a good few interceptions. But still for me Ambrose should be playing ahead of Boyata.

Izzy - Played well enough and showed why he should still be first choice LB and makes the decision for Ronny to drop him for Mulgrew against Malmo even more baffling. He was really silly right enough in giving away so many stupid fouls and let his team down in the end. But still first choice LB.

Brown - He played ok tonight and a lot better than his usual standard for me in Europe. Again though his passing at times can be poor and his stamp on the Ajax player at the corner flag confirms he will never learn, you can't do that as a player never mind Celtic captain and was lucky ref and linesman both missed it. His comments on Mowbray last night irked me lacks class but cba commenting further on them.

Forrest - Was ok but not great, better than GMS anyway. Done well to set up Griffiths first half and won ball back a few times. Largely invisible though.

Johansen - Time he was dropped, passing was poor again and he's lost whatever he had in stages last season. Always works hard but football wise poor again and is guilty of getting robbed whilst in possession a few times.

Commons - Well I said he should start and a few shot me down on here telling me he was ageing and was too slow, well two assists and I thought he worked really hard for the team making a good few blocks at crosses, brilliant delivery for Griffiths as well who should have hit the target and that was disappointing from him he's got to take his chances at this level. GMS needs to watch and learn there's no chance he should be playing ahead of Commons. The only thing I'd say about Commons was he looked a bit unfit and was slow to react at times when players skipped past him, still should be playing ahead of Johansen, Forrest and GMS for me when fit.

Griffiths - No harm to the wee man, works hard but he just can't cut it at this level. He had two really good chances tonight and you've got to take those for Celtic in Europe. Decent domestically, but not got it in Europe. Still though, for sure the best option ahead of both Ciftci and Stokes.

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Janko - Can't really comment.

Blackett - Again can't really comment.

Ambrose - Well, well, well. Fantastic, won every header in the air and even drew a foul and got one of their players booked. I don't care what anyone says he's reliable and a better CB than Boyata and Mulgrew as I keep telling everyone. He's not a RB, that much I agree with and he did have a slight wee blip when he came on but recovered the rest of the game wonderfully. A lot of folk have got this guy wrong, it's Boyata and Mulgrew who are the bombscares. Ambrose is a very decent CB who should be partnering Simunovic and I don't think it will be long before we see it as Boyata can't be trusted and him and Mulgrew are far worse than Ambrose at CB.

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17 Sep 2015 23:23:07
Foresst- a waste of a Jersey. Johansen-Seems a 1 season wonder!( or he's fecked). Big Effe gets Pelter's always but done well ( I think it's a confidence issue,as everytime at Home he gets it though it is justified but there's a good player in there somewhere). Biton-NL never gave the boy much game time. Under RD he's 1 of the first team picks. CG- A worse Bombscare than Effe & I don't want to go there!!.For a Forward Line well we know we have none!

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18 Sep 2015 00:44:58
[points):
Simunovic:Why did'nt Ronnie play him against Aberdeen ,to get him match fit and match tuned.
Boyatta :did'nt watch the game,listened on radio ,so not sure
how he played,but think Ambrose's bestposition is either right back,that he plays,played for nigeria,or in a creative midfield position,I think he might suprise a lot of people how he'd perform in that.Should maybe try Mulgrew with Simunovic as a central pairing
Forrest think GMS should have played instead of him
Johansen,an enigma wrapped in a puzzle,don't know what the answer is.
Commons,should be a first pick for the team every week,untill Scot Allans ready,Commons is the biggest reflection on how bad Ronnies team selection has been.
Griffiths should be a first choice in every domestic game and european game,the people saying that he's not european class are for want of a better word idiots,,the people disagreeing are the clueless ones wanting big Sammi back just because he scored a few crucial goal and forgetting all the dead ends he ran into

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18 Sep 2015 07:20:50
Celticforever well fair assessment. Ambrose for me did a great job when he came on. He has been an easy scapegoat for a lot of people. Izzy after the first booking looked as if he was going to get sent off got taken in by the Ajax winger who was loking to get him a red card silly.Blackett watched him twice now ''top class defender highly rated'' can't see it. Biton big man growing in class new contract quickly. For me I would take a point anytime at Ajax so job done. don't worry about MSM comments we are Celtic one together through thick and thin.

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18 Sep 2015 13:41:07
Fair assessments.

Great result but I really am getting a bit sick of this knock it up to Griffiths BS at times. It just doesn't work. He either can't win it, can't hold it up or doesn't have enough about him to take it on himself. It was late in the game and just one instance but he had the ball on the break one on one with his man and it lead to nothing. He was a bit unlucky not to score last night though. Forrest was abysmal but KC had his best game in a long time and that's coming from one of his critics.

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17 Sep 2015 21:46:50
what about Molde beating Fenerbace away?
Ambrose was brilliant tonight when he came on except for one bomb scare
Brown played well as did Biton and Johansen
Forrest waste of a shirt
Simonovic seemed calm and collected and had a calming effect on Boyata as the game went on
Commons played well on the ball and tracked back well. unless he was knackered, I would have kept him on

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18 Sep 2015 11:39:29
Efe's great when he's in a battle to win headers when we're being bombarded because he's tall and athletic. It's his tackling on the ground, specifically the timing and half-heartedness of it at times, and his overplaying that severely let him down.

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17 Sep 2015 21:22:51
That was a decent showing I think tonight. Was delighted with Izzy then he got sent off, was a really daft one! He always thinks he's mental when he comes back from an international.

Thought Griffiths was rubbish, I think he should've scored twice and his efforts just looked like a wee SPL forward. Worryingly shifty is our only option.

I'm sure the vultures were ready to hammer us had we lost. Only Gordon prevented a win along with Izzy. Don't understand a keeper going at a ball like that. got to go at the ball and if someone gets a nick then it's unlucky. How will we ever know if Bailly is good if he never gets a chanc?

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17 Sep 2015 21:18:23
For once Ambrose kept us in the game particularly with defensive headers. Every cloud has a silver lining.

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17 Sep 2015 20:41:14
Was good to watch tonight should have took Izzy off earlier though it looked like he was wanting to get sent off bit disappointed in the draw but if someone had said 2-2 before the game I would have took it

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17 Sep 2015 20:57:27
Apart from second goal, I thought defensively we looked much better, I think after a few games simunovic will come good. All depends on our attacking side, need ciftci to get a run of games and get him scoring

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17 Sep 2015 20:32:05
Never got to see game. How did simunovic play?

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17 Sep 2015 20:42:24
I thought he had a great game and looks a player. Unlike Efe.

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17 Sep 2015 21:11:06
marco what are you on about? Efe came on and did very well, he should be starting ahead of both Boyata and Mulgrew at CB alongside Simunovic.

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17 Sep 2015 21:53:32
U are definitely right on tonight's performance . Efe took responsibility for numerous crosses and cleared them all.

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17 Sep 2015 22:12:46
Ambrose looked good tonight (as did simo), kept it simple and put his body in the way, Blackett to me looks a terrible player, a defender who turns his back at a shot or cross is just plain wrong, surely there has to be a better player in the youth system?

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18 Sep 2015 08:02:59
I didn't get to see the last 10 mins I only saw upto Efe came on and a min or two after that but I will hold my hands up and say I don't like Efe. Every time he comes on the park we concede. Remember aberdeen

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17 Sep 2015 20:31:56
fair play to RD he got most things right tonight. Made a massive difference having three central midfield players. I thought Brown Biton and Johansen played well and controlled the game for long periods. I would like to see RD do this more. Wee probably would have won if izzy hadn't been so silly I thought he was doing really well until then, I worry about Blackett I think he looks as if he has a lot to find. Only fair I think to praise Efe apart from his crazy attempt at dribbling he defended brilliantly and made four or five great headed clearances so credit where it is due

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17 Sep 2015 21:37:39
Defence still shaky but considering they need a bit of time to get to know each other, it could have been worse. Thought Lustig looked really isolated and they knew it because they pressed him every time. Commons may not have the legs but he is the only creative player we have, is that maybe where Allen comes in, eventually.
Our ball retention, or should that be lack of it, is shocking and keeps us on the back foot and even with 11, never felt we could hang on. Forrest was rank, and Brown and Johansen were chasing shadows all night. A mention for Efe, one blip apart, he did ok and if he could just learn when to clear his lines, he would save himself a lot of grief.
We all seem to agree where our deficiencies are, so hopefully we have something to build on until the Jan window😱

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17 Sep 2015 21:57:13
After the very poor performance on Saturday , we came back and rebuilt some pride . Tonight was a step in the right direction , the team showed pride and determination , we didn't see much disharmony tonight .

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17 Sep 2015 20:22:50
Couldn't watch the game tonight but had the radio on. Was quite enjoying the game which I thought we had control of until the sending off. After that Ajax had numerous chances to punish us but for their poor finishing it could have been four or five. I felt the players gave it their all albeit one or two are still not convincing.
I don't like to criticise Ambrose cause he gets it in the neck everytime he steps on the pitch but he is so laid back he makes stupid decisions. Again tonight was no exception. 2-2 away from home. I'll take that but we did ride our luck towards the end. HH

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17 Sep 2015 21:14:12
Will you please get me one of those radios,it would save me a fortune,either that or my tv is past its best, dearie,dearie me.

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17 Sep 2015 22:16:34
Lawman, I suggest watching the game, ambrose played well when he came on, and was solid

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18 Sep 2015 00:32:27
I'm not disagreeing jbhoy that Ambrose didn't have a good game. What I did say was that he makes stupid mistakes every game he plays. Tonight was no exception when he gave the ball away with his first touch trying to do something clever in an area where a defender should just be clearing the ball. I think the commentator said 'nearly sold the jerseys'. Which he does do every game I've seen him play in.

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18 Sep 2015 00:34:13
Can you explain what you mean Costa Tim you've lost me.

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17 Sep 2015 20:20:59
Come on guys a little perspective here (just found one of the girls dictionaries lol) 2-2 away at Ajax is not to be sniffed at, ok some bad habits still recurring but a much better european performance for a change, and against a referee who was card happy against mainly us (why do we never get these refs in our favour)
Look at the big spending English teams results in CL with 3 defeats and tonight Liverpool with all the millions they also spent only getting a 1-1 draw also. Think about it most of us are unhappy because we ONLY DREW, scoring 2 goals away from home in europe is a big improvement in this tim's eyes.
The team restored a bit of pride tonight. COYBIG

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17 Sep 2015 21:59:51
Timalloy to answer your question . Hugh Dallas has a role in European football refereeing circles .

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17 Sep 2015 20:13:40
Typical Celtic! They lift you up and drop you down like a sack a spuds time and time again.
What a good bit of play with Commons and Bitton followed by a superb goal. Then we fall out of it a bit, lose a goal, but manage to get back in front before half time and settle down. (so far so good)?
My only concerns at that point were the ineffective Forrest and the erratic Izzaguire who was kicking anything that moved.

We could have added to our lead, but that would have been too good to be true and Ajax started to push for a way back while Forrest was still invisible and Izzaguire decided to get himself sent off.
Deila must have been the only man that never saw that coming and must take blame for poor judgement.

The onslaught began and we sat further and further back and we knew what was on the cards!
Gordon has been a disaster for a month now and needs telling.

Over the piece, most Celtic supporters would have been happy with a draw, after the recent 'crisis' but when you lose a lead in these circumstances it's hard to take any consolation (right away).

Ajax played the high pressing, slick passing game RD professes to but we seem to have a way to go?
On a bright note, Brown had a great game along with everyone else apart from Gordon, Forrest and Izzy.
The latter could never play for us again and I would not care a jot.

Boyata was not bad, but played Lustig into trouble too much, while the new boy had a quiet baptism.

Ah well, some good, bad and ugly - and at least we got a draw at a very difficult venue in a very, very difficult group.
Was gutted to drop out of the CL and we still have a few team issues to sort out, but if all the games have as much as this then the EL will be very entertaining.

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17 Sep 2015 22:05:10
I have to say I thought Izzy was superb for us up until he got over excited and got himself sent . We all seen the trouble his player gave us after Izzy got sent off . I wonder if we had made two changes to the back four around the hour mark and lost a goal or two, how much shoite would Deila have got .

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17 Sep 2015 20:10:30
Very happy with the 2-2 especially considering the form of the team! A win against Dundee at the weekend and hearts to take points from the sheep will be a decent week for the hoops.

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17 Sep 2015 20:07:07
Looked good for the win lucky to get the draw in the end for Izaguirres idiocy he hasn't done himself any favours after tonight. Have to say well done Ambrose his best game for us for a while! Moldes win has done us a favour too let's hope RD can get us firing now and we will be looking good for qualification! HH

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17 Sep 2015 20:04:54
Thought big jozo had a good debut . but why oh why does ambrose get on the pitch

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17 Sep 2015 20:34:02
Ambrose was good mate calm down only let down was izzy

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17 Sep 2015 20:37:55
Do you watch the game Ambrose played well give the guy a break

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17 Sep 2015 19:46:27
Again, 'Flappy Bird' absolutely commands his box (not). Didn't Roni and his super backroom staff not go over the Aberdeen highlights? Just when I thought we could have seen out the game we get suckered by the exact same floater Aberdeen burst us with.

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17 Sep 2015 19:58:47
BigRab
dead on
another set piece disaster
If u had offered 2-2 before the game I would have bit your hand off
we can punish these guys at home. they are not that great
we kept giving the ball back to them in the second half.too easy for them
Izzy was always going to walk. should have been subbed as soon as he got the first booking
Anyway. better performance all round

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17 Sep 2015 20:37:16
I think we should be happy tonight . We are certainly nor a great Celtic team , but after theover board negativity after Aberdeen we certainly played quite well and the team and Deila should be fairly well pleased .
Izzy was superb in the first half and got a wee bit carried away but he was certainly committed .
I think the free kick was superbly hit and would have beaten a lot of defences .
We shouldn't get over carried away but at the same time we can be reasonably satisfied .

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17 Sep 2015 18:52:14
Pleasantly surprised and feeling a tad jubilant

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17 Sep 2015 19:40:51
So , I could see that idiot Izzy getting sent off how on earth did RD not sub him.

As I type Gordon howler AGAIN

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17 Sep 2015 19:54:44
Good and bad tonight but I'll take that for starters.

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17 Sep 2015 19:54:44
Good and bad tonight but I'll take that for starters.

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17 Sep 2015 20:39:05
After all the negative posting after Saturday, I am happy with what we did tonight .
A good performance from Brown .

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17 Sep 2015 17:18:21
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17 Sep 2015 17:43:57
Download mobdro app from mobdro.com and go to sport and it should have all the UK French and Spanish sport channels and more and just pick the relevant by sport channel to watch it on

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17 Sep 2015 18:27:28
Thanks guys!

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17 Sep 2015 15:40:23
For me tonight is the yardstick to test RDs resilience, tactics and know how.As there is no way we are going there full of confidence expecting to win. In fact some fans I spoke to would bite there hand off for a 1-0 loss.Tonight is his judgement day for me as there is no way we can go all out and attack Ajax. We are never organised defensively and this is what RD must do to get credibility. Attacking and creating is the difficult part of football but being organised defensively and giving nothing away (I won't say park the bus) is the easier thing to organise and an absolute must for us.
So over to you Ronny if you persist with this pressing game high up and we get turned over big style then I will have absoloute no sympathy for you if you get punted as you cannot learn from your mistakes. So Ronny do us all a favour and defend properly and hit on the break.

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17 Sep 2015 16:35:37
Rayman I've no faith we have right players for 4-2-3-1 to work in Europe. I do see potential in Deila to improve squad and general performances, if he is allowed to elect a chief scout replacing John Park. My point is, the scout Deila could elect surely would be someone he knew that would source the right players for this system to work.

I gave Neil Lennon a bit of stick on this for number of reasons. Although I still hold the same opinion on a few factors, untill a few months back I never knew he had players forced on him. Also never knew that it was him who identified Kelvin Wilson. My point is unless John Park is removed this system is never going to work in Europe.

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17 Sep 2015 16:52:32
DN let it go mate lol. Its not a difficult thing to do to organise a team defensively. Teams not as good as us can be organised and give nothing away.We even did it to Barca and we hardly touched the ball that night. The game is littered with good defensive performances only for the defending team to go up the park and score. Are u seriously telling me a half decent manager cudnt get us playing better with the players we have.

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17 Sep 2015 17:35:32
Some of the defenders of Ronnies tactics and team selection ,don't half make some crazy statements

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17 Sep 2015 17:45:52
Rayman I've not got any faith in defence we have mate. i'm starting to get really concerned about what direction club is going

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17 Sep 2015 08:50:42
Reading Browns comments in the papers this mornin about tony Mowbray! Think it's bang out of order coming out with what he has! I understand there was problems with the 2 of them but it's really poor for me! Granted big tony didn't work out as a manager,we all know that! But for the Celtic captain to come out and have a go and actually use the name of an ex player who like I said didn't work out as manager but still talks fondly about our club and his time there! Think he should concentrate on his own problems rather than have a go at former managers!

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17 Sep 2015 10:12:00
I don't think he was really having a go. He was simply putting what's happening now into perspective.

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17 Sep 2015 10:29:11
Well the Celtic captain has also stated we're not in a crisis. So that must be good. Kind of get where you're coming from with regards to what he's saying publically but personally it doesn't offend me at all.

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17 Sep 2015 10:44:06
I agree big time mate, - I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that. Guys like McGrain/Aitken/McNeil would never have said even remotely along those lines. Brown does lack class, and up until last year I always gave him the benefit of the doubt because I thought he was playing well, and the team was far better with him in it, I even thought we would have done much better in the qualifiers last year if he was fit, but he played this year and was appalling. On top of all that Mowbray helped bring him through at Hibs, along with Thompson/Fletcher, before John Collins took over and they all got big moves, but Mowbray was the one that did the most for their careers. He's obviously bitching about him now because Mowbray dropped him from the Celtic team, because he was rotten, he took a few years to settle in, I didn't think he wanted to be here, I thought he regretted coming to Celtic. I didn't think he felt comfortable, and there was initially no rapport with the fans. Anyway instead of taking it on the chin, and trying to get back in the team, he, along with a few others chucked it and big Tony got sacked. I even remember Peter Grant saying he was surprised at how average Brown was technically and had went backwards since he moved from Hibs. Mowbray was a gentleman though, I simply think the pressure was too much, and I don't think the fact he was iconic as a player helped him, I think it might have made him think that he even has to go one better. I remember clearly though players moaning about him stopping training and giving them pointers, talking about their mistakes, he was basically being thorough, - the very thing everyone is foaming at the mouth about when it comes to that Mark Warburton. Warburton is being very progressive and revolutionary, while Mowbray and Ronny are being too picky, too strict. It makes my blood boil, and we have the usual suspects doing the same thing as we speak, Stokes, Commons etc, - if they were good enough our manager would play them, he wants results like the rest of us! It is beyond me how any fan can stick up for these players. I know Ronny is a little naive, and his subs at Aberdeen amazed me also, playing Ambrose amazes me. Apart from that though he is trying to run the club the way other top successful clubs do, and as I said the way they're trying to over in Govan, 20 years too late for them right enough, but they're still getting all the praise, with everyone buying into Warbos great incredible fantastic amazing methods. The players better put on a show tonight, for the manager, and more importantly the fans.

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17 Sep 2015 12:11:55
Just thought it's something that shouldn't be Said in public that's all! It's was nothing but a cheap shot at a guy that despite it not working being manager that I and a lot of Celtic fan hold in high regard! Tony Mowbray is nothing but complimentary about his time with us and how high he still regards us as a football club! It was out of order for me! And if he puts in a performance tonite like he's done since the season started then he'll just have made him self look even dafter than he already has! If your going to have a dig at a former manager then make sure it's when u and the team aren't a shambles pal!

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17 Sep 2015 13:49:24
Think the phrase "lacking in class" covers it. Going by our clubs transfer policy, if Brown was as good as he thinks, he would have sold by now, nuff said. I do think Brown adds to the team, but that could be indicator of far we have fallen because he certainly ain't,t no superstar His silly angry/hardman act has cost him too many unnecessary cautions and quite a few injuries through stupid tackles. IT IS ABOUT TIME ALL THESE PLAYERS DID SOME TALKING ON THE PITCH!!!

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17 Sep 2015 13:58:31
Lets rememberwhere we got this information. the newspapers.
We all know how they put their slant on anything said.
No aologies here but the media are Bast@ds. I have dealt with them as a Health and Safety Manager when there was an issue involving loss of life and they actually called up relatives for a reaction.
Anyway, regardless, Brown (imo) was stating an obviou fact in that compared to having a team which has had relative success here at home and what big Tony was putting together. this is not a crisis.
I am, like all of us concerned in what is happening but I don't fully blame RD I do however, throw a lot of blame at the Board (PL in particular) WGS and Lennon left because it was obvious that they would not be able to take the club any further with the selling of our best players and limited replacement funds. RD was chucked in because first choices were reluctant to follow that same phylosophy. He is keen and passionate but I was not convinced he was up to this job. I have warmed to him over time but still have nagging doubts.

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17 Sep 2015 15:09:58
People have short memories of the dross we played under Mowbary.The same people probably shouting for Mowbary to be sacked now defending him becasue Brown speaks out of turn Grant commenting on Browns technical abilities do me a favour do you remeber Grant playing.While it may not be PC to speak abot previous managers I think he is just trying to back RD circle the wagons and defend Celtic in this time where we are getting in the neck from not only our own fans but the MSM.As noted in a lot of posts everyone is entitled to their opinion so Brown isn't allowed to say anything. Move on get over it there's footbal to watch and get behind the team.Hopefully some positives on here tomorrow

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17 Sep 2015 15:32:40
I think Scot Bdown thought he was making a joke and a laugh would help to give every one a lift . Maybe it has back fired .

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17 Sep 2015 17:33:08
What has Peter Grants ability got to do with anything. He at least had a bit of dignity while at Celtic, gave everything every game, and loved the club. Technically he was very average Also, but he was the assistant manager under Mowbray so is entitled to an opinion, especially if Brown wasn't man enough to accept being dropped. He did the same thing under John Collins at Hibs, freaking out because they had to do double sessions, - God help us all. It tells you about his character. That was my point. He could easily have said we are all behind Ronny, there is no problems in the dressing room, the rumours are absolute nonsense Eric etc. instead he mentions Mowbray and says it's not as bad as then - you don't have to be a psychologist to know that there is something going on behind the scenes, it's just not as bad as it was back then. That's just great then, thanks Scott I'm reassured now. He's the captain, it should all be internal, he should be acting like a proper man and making sure all these rumours aren't getting out! Perception is everything and it can kill you!

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17 Sep 2015 22:10:17
Brown's "joke" about big Tony may now be regarded as a master stroke , as it may have helped in no small way to lift the spirits within the team and get a good solid all round performance from the team .

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17 Sep 2015 00:16:59
Disclaimer : Meaning No Offence to 'Street Soccer Scotland' and their terrific efforts in helping disadvantaged people .

The current Celtic Web-Page Article entitled 'Celtic welcome Scotland's Homeless World Cup teams' , must bring in to question Celtic's current signing policy?

Surely Mr Lawell isn't contemplating making future signings from amateur level backgrounds for the First Team Squad in the next Transfer Window?

The Sno Man

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17 Sep 2015 10:01:47
Remember Manchester United done something similar with a boy from Portugal payed 7 to 9 million for him can't remember his name though any ideas anyone or ed

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17 Sep 2015 10:10:16
Bebe it was he played in the homeless world cup

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17 Sep 2015 10:31:52
Was Bebe Gordo. Payed 6m I think after 4 professional goals!

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