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17 Oct 2020 21:27:24
Ed
I'm trying to get access to the celtic tv match highlights. I'm bored and need a wee pick me up
Any ideas?
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17 Oct 2020 22:10:34
Hahahaha brilliant.
{Ed007's Note - 😁
17 Oct 2020 21:03:33
Today two words No HEART.
17 Oct 2020 21:26:28
Thats 5 words.
{Ed007's Note - That should be "that's" 😜
17 Oct 2020 21:50:13
Too true
Two true
To trew
Two troo
That weed is working
Cheers ed.
{Ed007's Note - Isn't that the start of a Spandeu Ballet song?}
17 Oct 2020 22:04:15
Checking spotify as we speak . or Alexa.
ALEXAAAAAAAAA.
18 Oct 2020 00:07:00
That one won one
That one won one too
That one won two
That one won two too.
17 Oct 2020 20:40:51
Kev83, do I have an e-mail contact for you?
17 Oct 2020 21:06:20
Its the one I use to get on the site big man.
{Ed007's Note - Can you drop me an e-mail at ed007@live.co.uk mate, I don't have access to account details.}
17 Oct 2020 20:37:40
I’d like to think I’m not a panty wetter.
I said to myself after Cluj that I wouldn’t go and watch that team. but I did as the season went domestically we were fine after new year. It’s clear that Lennon has tried to buy players building around a 352 system . Doesn’t work. He has to be replaced now or we are going to wither.
17 Oct 2020 21:26:47
What is this mad faith in 352?, what is the point of having 5 in midfield that can't play together, and three at the back that can't defend together.
I think the criticism of Ntcham, is unwarranted, he is being asked to play in a way so as to accommodate Brown in the team, I think the last game showed that Brown is best now coming off the bench, I wish he had started on the bench today, the last three games we played The rangers, they outplayed us, with Brown in the side, yet still he is the first name on nearly everyone's teamsheet
And another thing, I think we missed a trick not signing Lyndon Dykes as a squad player,
17 Oct 2020 21:52:29
Aindoh
Brown was good against hibs
How you can make this about Brown today, hmmmmmm
Bad as he was.
17 Oct 2020 22:04:18
The criticism of Ntcham is unwarranted?
He publicly slated Scottish football and basically said he wants out, he is not interested in playing for Celtic. Although I do get that it isn't his fault that he is still being picked for the team.
17 Oct 2020 22:16:37
What's wrong with slating Scottish football at present?, as far as I am concerned it can only get better.
17 Oct 2020 22:32:16
Ntcham is a passenger, as is Elyounousi. Yes Dykes would have done a job as a squad player. Mistakes in selection today but problems are deeper, no proper formation, players not playing to their strengths, no desire, . PL needs to show some backbone as for me NL's race is run. He was backed financially and we are in a far worse position than 12-18 months ago. Several players have gone into reverse.
17 Oct 2020 23:18:40
I agree about Elyounoussi, he flatters to decieve, he has talent but no application, he will score a few goals, maybe at a needy time and be hailed a hero and a star, but when the going gets tough he gets going, (out the door ) , he is much like Rogic, people like Elyounoussi and Rogic are taking up places in the first team squad, and stopping younger home grown players coming through, these young players never get the chance to progress and develop and are let go, and the phycological effect on them can destroy their whole footballing life, let's bring more home grown players through, and stop paying for these footballing mercenaries.
And and another thing, lay off Barkas, no one gave Forster much criticism when he was slow in getting down for those goals he gave away against The rangers.
18 Oct 2020 02:01:54
Ntcham is as inconsistent as he is lazy. Should have punted him long ago. Barkas looks bang average. No better than Bain and he didn't cost 5 million.
17 Oct 2020 19:18:31
I am wrestling with my thoughts on where it went wrong, whos to blame and who's not.
The past few seasons we have had "crisis points"but eventually the cream has risen to the top.
However something feels different this time.
The team seems factured, our big hitters have drastically lost form.
C.V. seems to have a king Billy tattoo and infecting our players causing havoc.
Given our team is one third loan signings, one third wanting away and the others a mixture of novices something just isn't right.
And no matter what the most ardent celtic fan says rangers have improved.
This brings me to the management team.
I am no football expert but you have to pick a system to suit the players available not the opposite.
3 5 2 can only work when 2 strikers are on form, creating and scoring playing in a partnership and sadly we ain't had that all season never mind today.
Not for the first time has imo the wrong team has been selected resulting in us falling flat in our faces.
So are we approaching the crossroads crisis point again this season.
Do we ride this out waiting for form to return or is there serious consideration to a management change to be given.
17 Oct 2020 20:26:51
SEAN SOUTH FULL BELT BEST MEDICINE MATE.
17 Oct 2020 21:33:06
People lay the blame at the door of the person (s) they tend to have an axe to grind with.
In my opinion there is not a single person or thing to blame and there are a number of factors that led to that poor performance today.
In the first half there was not much between the teams, although they did have more of a cutting edge but the second half performance was woeful.
Anyway, no point dwelling on itas we need to pick ourselves up and start doing what we do best, which is win trophies.
{Ed007's Note - All roads lead to Neil Francis Lennon..... but does Neil Francis Lennon's road lead to his Damascus?}
17 Oct 2020 21:53:28
Lol ed
Neil Francis Lemon.
18 Oct 2020 09:39:09
I am in no way a fan of lennon and at the time did not want him as manager.
That being said i do not think he is without blame but nor was it his fault entirely.
1. Most of our team was just back from playing internationals, which was not the case for them.
2. We lost 4 key players due to C.V. and 2 of our strikers were just coming back from injury and not ready for 90 minutes.
3. Some players did not perform and were hiding from passes.
So thereare 3 things that were not lennon's fault.
I agree that he made mistakes which contributed to the bad performance but i do not accept it was all his fault.
17 Oct 2020 19:11:21
Ed, there seems to be a lot of chat about there being a mole at Parkhead who's leaking information.
John Fallon has said today's team was announced last night at around 6pm on Ascom?
Any idea what's going on at Celtic Park?
{Ed007's Note - What's Ascom, one of those chat group things like Whatsapp? I've no idea if there's a mole but there's always things that leak out. If you watch a training session the day before a game you will be able to tell the starting line-up.}
17 Oct 2020 20:09:06
Doesn't make any difference if the team was leaked or not the players selected weren't interested. Perhaps if the coin had landed on the other side a different team might have been picked today though?
Lennon has clearly lost the dressing room and this has been evident for months. Too many players wanting away or under preforming.
The team look like they haven't been given any instructions on how to approach the game or been motivated. The Rangers were up for it from the off unlike us.
We've been riding our luck for a while scraping results again teams we should be beating conveniently with out resources.
Ive said it for a while, the only danger to us wining the 10 is Lennon being in charge and I stand by that. If we get shot now the team would get a massive lift with a new manager being in place and let's face it they couldn't be less clueless!
17 Oct 2020 21:17:15
More clueless?
17 Oct 2020 21:29:58
Team getting leaked is nothing but showing there's unrest behind the scenes. Not as if lennon had a masterplan or surprise up his sleeve. And most of us on here probably knew how rangers would line up and play.
17 Oct 2020 21:54:47
I think the leak is one of the defenders . they've been leaky all season.
17 Oct 2020 22:26:56
Jesus Lubo, I’m devastated here and you’ve been commenting on every post like you’ve had a good day.
{Ed007's Note - And what? You've had 2 posts on the site ever so wtf are you contributing to it moron?}
17 Oct 2020 22:38:11
Cheers Ed. I'd never heard of Ascom either but quite impressive that an octogenarian has (LOL) . Apparently the mole hunt is on at CO but after today's no show, there's more important thing's that need to be sorted out.
18 Oct 2020 13:31:11
And that's savage Ed 🤣🤣🤣.
18 Oct 2020 13:30:41
The club should be more concerned about the imposter of a manager than the mole.
18 Oct 2020 10:23:36
ACSOM A Celtic State Of Mind - Podcast.
17 Oct 2020 19:02:43
Imo we were beat before a ball was kicked formations out the window the players were not at it. Lacked passion and commitment you can blame the manager fair enough but surely personal pride comes into it at some point. frimpong shat it as did paddy and we could go on. si from a personal point of view wgat player can loom thereself in the mirror.
17 Oct 2020 19:34:23
Think Welsh and Laxalt looked interested. Others didn't have the motivation or the nous to make a difference. Brown and Ntcham can't play together. Klimala wasn't getting enough of the ball nor support and Moi huffed and puffed. When Rogic came on he just went back to his ambling ways though Griff showed a bit of urgency but it was too late. The others, in my humble opinion shouldn't have been on the park.
17 Oct 2020 20:13:51
Mally do you think they players are playing for Lennon?
I know pride should come into it but if you are really pd off with your manager you ain't going to be motivated. On top of that it's the managers job to get the most out of players and motivate them. Do you think that is happening?
17 Oct 2020 20:22:04
young welsh puts me in mind of young billy macniell i seen big billy first game at right back a head less chicken with a ot endeavor he will be come a good centre half do not blame anyboby rangers had chances and scored we hahed two and and missed i have followed the tic for 70 year it is not the manager fault that some players had bad days magregor showed how some players need a rest by the way live in my day a 2 0 was a good result for celtic.
17 Oct 2020 20:25:14
Pod1 - I think the next two games will show whether the team is interested and focussed or not. The Aberdeen game is massive as 3 points will leave us one point or four points adrift. If NL can't get all three points then the Board has to make a decision. The Milan game will take care of itself.
17 Oct 2020 22:02:49
Stengo, come on .
Row row row the bloody boat. the NEXT 2 GAMES will show if WE ARE INTERESTED.
it's like living in the never never wonderland of wonderful hopes and dreams and green brick roads with yellow kerbs
We have been off it for donkeys
We need padre pio, all the saints and the Carmelites to bring back the fire and the fury
This year we are even looking at bringing in psychologists.
We are leaderless
Rudderless
Clueless
Hopeless
Feckless
A MESS.
17 Oct 2020 23:40:29
Lubo, that's the point I'm making. If the players aren't up for those two games then why are they there? We're flogging dead donkeys and there doesn't appear to be any motivation, any leadership or any clue what they are doing. Rangers are playing the same players all of the time because they have to. We don't have to but we play McGregor, Brown, Ajer and Ntcham because Lennon misguidedly plays them, or trusts them. Where's the trust in return? We can play different players like Soro, Turnbull, Welsh but Lennon is scared to do that. But today Rangers knew what to do probably because the players knew what their positions were. We can play any players in a 3-5-2 but it doesn't look like they know how to play it.
17 Oct 2020 18:56:09
Finial thought for today for the club, board, managers and owner and their reference on their official twitter page to Tommy Burns (quote) ' They are there because they are always there' and to to the Green Brigades banner 'We're out here for you-you be in there for us'. Well you weren't Celtic and you let the fans who are paying your wages as an act of charity without being able to watch you play down. Big time. Reflect. We move on. Goodnight and God Bless.
17 Oct 2020 18:49:58
Not one for knee jerk reactions so this is something that's been coming. Since NL took over he rode the crest of a wave, the team spirit and legacy of the Rat. Over time that dwindled and as new players come in its clear the coaching is not at the level it was. Good managers improve players. I don't see any of that under NL and his signings are by and large questionable. We are without question regressing and I think FF saved his bacon last year, maybe he seen this script.
17 Oct 2020 20:01:44
chinks67 i think KT also seen the script.
{Ed007's Note -
17 Oct 2020 20:52:13
players leave its the way it is.
{Ed007's Note - Players and managers leave but the standards and expectations should never change, Liam.}
17 Oct 2020 21:14:24
absolutely agree the standards have went backwards but players leaving is just the way it is has been and will be.
{Ed007's Note - 👍
17 Oct 2020 18:15:59
We might all disagree but it's good we're all disagreeing among friends. But let's not air our dirty washing on Radio Clyde or the like who's only objective is our demise. It's not been a great day. But take comfort that they will still be H**s in the morning. Goodnight and God Bless lads. Keep the Faith! ☘️.
17 Oct 2020 18:26:52
Was out with the training top on and got lots of verbal abuse after the match . still very proud to wear my gear win lose or draw. always
To be fair. it was decent banter and the dog did its business and so happy dhays.
18 Oct 2020 13:32:48
You get your hole Lubo?
17 Oct 2020 17:43:59
This what happens when international football, played i can't understand why they are playing this as 19 has savaged teams its so pointless one thing is certain we were caught against a better organised sevco and woeful defended but this season ain't going yet and its still for celtic to lose it no crowd its strange but dust down and carry on players have to perform with desire its wasn't there today long way to go.
17 Oct 2020 18:53:28
The game was deliberately played after the international break to give them every advantage as most of their team don't play international football.
17 Oct 2020 19:21:20
What a load of rubbish.
17 Oct 2020 19:26:58
Celtic need to be more clued in when it comes to these internationals. The players they have who do play were all out or played very limited game time. Yet all were fit as a flee today no problem. It was something l said during the week. Yet all our players went some injuried too and we lost a number of players as a result.
17 Oct 2020 17:31:48
No fight no passion no motivation been the theme of Lenny’s tenure time to go and don’t give me the pish about what we’ve won we haven’t progressed we have lost all euro ties we should’ve won and we’ve got lucky in the league so far up till today when we were outplayed by a team that were motivated.
17 Oct 2020 18:03:57
Nuff said.
17 Oct 2020 18:52:31
Something is not right behind the seens. That was a team with so little fight from start to finish. For me u need fighters in these games and nitcham not for the first time were very poor and not up for the fight. They dominated the middle again and never looked under pressure.
The most surprising thing for me was when we were looking toothless and lost every time the tv when to Lennon he was just sitting arms folded. We can say all we want about the players missing but again we were outclassed by them. And people saying we will still win the league handy must be watching different games. Unfortunately this result was coming.
To say our CB had the most touches of all players on the pitch said enough. If we get any slower with our play l would think the tv has paused. If whatever the problem Is, is not sorted soon we can kiss the 10 IAR goodbye. That performance is totally unacceptable for all involved today.
17 Oct 2020 17:30:01
I am utterly disgusted with that performance today. That mob are bang average n we made them look like world beaters, strolling around parkhead with license to play as they please. Finger oot Celtic.
17 Oct 2020 22:04:47
Our squad is also very bang average and we have to face facts, we have won so many trophies of late with a very bang average squad and there is no denying it im afraid.
17 Oct 2020 23:11:49
If they are bang average wouldn't like too think what we are listen bro we are not as good as we think we are sore but true.
17 Oct 2020 15:49:12
Ed
Some words of wisdom please?
I feel for the lads that did the Lennoxtown banner
" be in there for us". hardly .
Horrible build up to match and lots of issues BUT by any measure, that did not look like a team going for 10 IAR.
{Ed007's Note - Neil Francis Lennon (wasn't that your pet name for him the other day?) should have the good grace to walk away tonight. When we do win 10 it will be in spite of him, not because.}
17 Oct 2020 18:09:53
👏👏👏 ed were here for them but there not here for us 🍀.
{Ed007's Note - 👍 I don't blame the players at all mate, it's all down to Lennon and his outdated methods and tactics.}
17 Oct 2020 18:12:05
Wise words
I always try to give him benefit of the doubt
I don't rate him, never have
Love celtic but feeling bigger disconnect with the team. it looks like the stalwarts have ran their race and the incomers can't fill the Jerseys
Adidas don't win football matches
Our sold out season tickets
Or museums
Leaked teams
Hapless performances
Weird selections / no relationships forming
Lots of injured players
A deep malaise has set in and I don't think lennon or Kennedy or the new Lasd Stracham can reverse the current trend of sevco on the rise
In terms of intensity around the 10 What happened Ed? Why have we come apart and why is it being underplayed as if its not happening
Why do we have to NL after a match talk about a match that noone else witnessed?
Why why why and why now!
Last question what would you do with set up and management if I gave you a magic Harry Potter wand?
{Ed007's Note - Although it would upset his adoring fanboys I'd sack Lawwell & Lennon and see if Eddie Howe fancies it. We missed a trick not appointing Moyes who would know how to set the team up and have the players well drilled, organised and aware of their jobs on the park.
Why are you blaming coaches? They only do what the manager tells them to so if the manager is clueless it's hardly the coaches fault. Kennedy would do a better job than Lennon as manager/head coach.}
17 Oct 2020 18:20:51
Spot on.
17 Oct 2020 18:28:24
Interesting point on coaches.
17 Oct 2020 18:59:05
Not going to happen so we need to accept that and address the issue at the end of the season. Unity at this time, during one of the most important seasons in our history is not the time for infighting in my opinion.
17 Oct 2020 19:04:29
I must admit, it has taken longer that i thought for Lennons poor man management skills to have seriously adverse effects on the players. When you add that to his lack of tactical know how, we will make hard work of the 10 when it should have been almost routine.
17 Oct 2020 19:22:30
I sort of agree with that.
17 Oct 2020 19:50:36
This is total crap as Kennedy just sits there with his arms folded staring into space, No passion no fight but he would be better😭Total nonsense.
{Ed007's Note - Not all managers jump about like raving lunatics and those that do usually know what they're talking about or they just look a t!t. Kennedy knows more about football and tactics than Lennon ever will.
As an assistant manager what do you want Kennedy to do, undermine the manager by screaming at players what to do?
Do you understand the role of an assistant manager? The clues right there in the job title - to assist the manager.}
17 Oct 2020 20:11:34
Maybe to get off his backside and stand with his manager on the touchline and look a bit interested, The way Robertson did with O'Neill and Davies did with Rodgers! If he had more knowledge of football than Lennon then why did Celtic go and get Lennon when Rodgers left? They clearly didn't want to give Kennedy the reigns.
{Ed007's Note - Why should Kennedy get up and shout when the manager is sitting there with his arms folded chewing tobacco like a hillbilly? O'Neill and Rodgers were also up shouting with their assistants.
Maybe Covid means they aren't allowed to jump about to get you excited?}
17 Oct 2020 21:22:58
Lol . tobacco. hillbilly lol.
{Ed007's Note - I'm just waiting on some moron blaming our kit and we should have went with Cas t re. They're blaming everyone else ffs while wee Taylor is sitting with his feet up giving the bird to Frimpong on Ascom!}
18 Oct 2020 13:37:44
Reading through your posts has at least cheered me up a little today Ed. hillbilly 🤣.
{Ed007's Note - 👍
17 Oct 2020 14:55:39
Due to work I didn't get to see the game today . I'm only going by what I've read here and on the BBC live text. Again it seems players not turning up and no motivation from the manager and backroom staff. Too late with substitutions and no change of formation or tactics. that's 3 games against them now where the tactics deployed by us seem to suit the opposition rather than making it difficult.
When you get a chance Ed what's your take on today? Your opinion/ breakdowns aren't usually too far away from what I'm thinking during/ after the game when I've seen it.
{Ed007's Note - We set up wrong considering the players available - I said the other day I didn't fancy Frimpong playing as a RWB against them - and the decision to start Ntcham & Klimala was crazy unless Klimala starting was because of fitness issues with Ajeti & LG but we'd have been better getting the time out of either of them from the start. Turnbull should have started instead of Ntcham and we should have started in a 4-5-1.
It was the disaster we've got used to under Lennon and once agian he didn't know how to change things while his usual brainstorm of switching Forrest from right to left was off the cards. Lennon appears to be clueless to what his best team is AND how they should play, today's match - just like the CL qualifier - was another game we wouldn't have lost with Moyes in charge.}
17 Oct 2020 19:07:30
Agree with everything you said ed and said the same myself prior to kick off and lennon has to shoulder responsibility for his part.
That being said the fact we had a large number of players on international duty and they didn't was also a factor. Add to that the fact we lost 4 key players due to C.V., also hindered us today.
Anyway, the important thing is how we respond to defeat today. Let's not forget if we win our game in hand there is only 1 point between us.
{Ed007's Note - I'm not panicking mate, the 10 will still be won.}
17 Oct 2020 19:10:42
I’m not a fan of Moyes either Ed but would definitely rather have him than Lennon. I liked Lennon as a player but he doesn’t seem to have learned anything during his time in management roles. I have never seen anyone waiting until the last 7 minutes to bring on 2 substitutes unless they were winning and wanted to burn a couple of minutes and disrupt the game a wee bit.
{Ed007's Note - I'm no great fan of Moyes either but he would have continued the high (Pub League) standards behind the scenes and helped refresh the youth & scouting system if he was allowed to. People moan about his style of football but look at the dross we're watching just now and who knows he may have changed his approach in a lesser league. We'd definitely be harder to beat, we'd be better organised tactically and at set-pieces players would know exactly what's required of them. The players would know who's the boss and if you're not pulling your weight you will be dropped.
If Moyes had been appointed instead of Lennon I reckon there would be a lot of fans - including me - who would have changed their mind about him by now.}
17 Oct 2020 19:24:25
Wow ed . it won't just Happen . something needs to happen.
Is there a pending clear the air
Something needs to change and if not management, then attitude/ behaviour and that will take some kind if reckoning.
{Ed007's Note - Jeez oh the last thing we need is clear the air talks - look what happened at Hibs when the done that 😂 In saying that.......
Lennon's never managed in the Pub League or any top league so how the Hell could he keep on continuing Rodgers' work, even the foundations Ronny laid are beyond Lennon's comprehension.}
17 Oct 2020 19:33:47
we only had 2 more players on international duty.
17 Oct 2020 19:24:53
Thanks for the reply Ed, as most weeks the line up does my head in, midfielders up front etc the old square pegs in round holes. Glad you still see the 10 coming. Do you think lennon will be here when it does? I had said preseason I think his race is run by Christmas and someone else will be the one to see us over the line. Can see the whole club looking different come the start of next season.
{Ed007's Note - I said months ago, whether we win the 10 or not that DD and the board need to look at shaking things up and modernising the way the Club is ran, we need to replace Lawwell with a new CEO and appoint a DOF.
I do think Lennon will be here for the 10 as over the course of a season we have better resources in squad quality and size.}
17 Oct 2020 21:02:34
what foundations did deila lay?
{Ed007's Note - Diet and nutrition, sports science, data analysis regarding personal performance, rewarding youth players like McGregor and Teirney who proved they were better in the first team than wasting away until they moved elsewhere for peanuts.....
When Brown went down for dinner and met Rodgers he explained to him how he expected his players to be the complete athlete and live like professional athletes yet when Deila pushed the same ideas he was ridiculed. You're deluded if you don't think Deila done good work in modernising thing and moved the Club forward behind the scenes.
We need to move away from looking at managers with a Celtic connection as it's holding us back, I say it every time the job comes up that I would love to see a list of people who are interested in it, a lot of people would be very surprised and Lawwell would be terrified of it being made public.}
17 Oct 2020 22:16:33
I know what Rodgers done. lennon before that gave Forrest his chance.
{Ed007's Note - Aye and how long did it take him to get up to a decent standard?}
18 Oct 2020 14:40:10
Well that's fairdos mate Rodgers certainly improved Forrest to another level.
17 Oct 2020 17:30:01
I am utterly disgusted with that performance today. That mob are bang average n we made them look like world beaters, strolling around parkhead with license to play as they please. Finger oot Celtic.
17 Oct 2020 17:58:14
They're bang average? What does that say about us?
We are pretenders that refuse to defend or to go in where it hurts
No fire
No fury
No clue
We are lost and have been for a good while
There is a lot of rot at Celtic park ( dead wood ) and we need a few JunkIt Vans to clear the decks.
17 Oct 2020 17:58:17
World beaters calm down they were average at best. We were piss poor but would have been a different game if we had a decent goalie and the ref hadnt given them a dodgy free kick for the opener.
17 Oct 2020 18:14:45
You are the 1st to blame the ref.
17 Oct 2020 18:55:30
Who blamed the ref?
17 Oct 2020 19:24:56
You did.
17 Oct 2020 17:12:48
And so it begins i predicted this narrative unfortunately. Lenny out. forget 7 first team players were missing a young man making his 2nd appearance who was our best player a glut of unfit players and a glut of players off form and an international who can't lob a goalie aye it was lenny.
17 Oct 2020 17:23:52
Mally how long can you defend Lennon tactically inept and no motivation I’m sorry but the lack of fight in the games that matter come down to his selections and management it’s out of his depth see how he sat there with nothing to offer on the touch line time to go and anyone who can defend him is deluded. His after match interview said it all took no responsibility.
17 Oct 2020 17:24:36
Another Lennon apoligist.
17 Oct 2020 17:25:45
Mallet it's not just this game they've got the measure of us over the last 3/ 4 games and we have been poor since the start of the season and Lennon doesn't have the ability to turn it around.
17 Oct 2020 17:29:53
guys this is serious question and would appreciate an answer, who would you have started and played/ formation.
17 Oct 2020 17:34:19
Mally if you really think it's just this one game I guess you don't look at any posts on here Lennon is not and never has been the man for this job people have said that from day one The last 3 times we have played them WITH a fool squad we have got gubbed he has no clue how to change a game or a system Every one has their own opinion and I respect that but how can anyone defend the undefendable is just beyond me.
17 Oct 2020 17:41:37
Mally just stop it
It's the players. its the players.
NL picks the team
NL motivates the team
NL asks questions of his team
NL does psychology on the team
NL protects the team
NL makes demands of the team
NL has no backbone. he is a weak, washed out yes man and a sitting duck and the players know it
The ONLY thing that we can to turn around lacklustre performances is a change in direction from the top
Celtic is not a happy camp
Hasn't been for some time
We have players who think they are too good for us who aren't terribly good or proficient at anything
The manager sets the tone and maintains standards, drives a level of performance and ( should) drive mistakes out of our play through fullsome training sessions
At a prezzer yesterday elyiunussi said he thinks sevco have improved but that he hasn't watched them. What do they do I their spare time?
He should know all about them to work out how to hurt them
But no, we just roll on expecting the magic to happen and the 10 to come
Well it won't
The players that wanted away are still here because nobody wanted them
Leaving us with players who think are too good for us and who won't run through a brick wall for the manager and coaches
This isn't a narrative
It's a plain fact
Keep up mally.
17 Oct 2020 17:43:18
As predicted.
17 Oct 2020 17:29:53
guys this is serious question and would appreciate an answer, who would you have started and played/ formation.
{Ed007's Note - Wuth the players available I'd have started in a 4-5-1 with
------------------Barkas-------------
-Ajer--------Welsh----Duffy--------Taylor-
-Frimpong-Brown-McGregor--Turnbull---Moi--
--------------------Ajeti-------
17 Oct 2020 17:34:19
Mally if you really think it's just this one game I guess you don't look at any posts on here Lennon is not and never has been the man for this job people have said that from day one The last 3 times we have played them WITH a fool squad we have got gubbed he has no clue how to change a game or a system Every one has their own opinion and I respect that but how can anyone defend the undefendable is just beyond me.
17 Oct 2020 17:44:27
there is no defending lennon now. he had an opportunity to try and change it today and it was rank. he is one dimensional and if plan
A failS, so do we. desmond has to act fast and ask him to leave and get somone who knows about tactics and man management. that group of players did not become poor over night.
17 Oct 2020 18:02:24
Mally what's predicted? Do you honestly believe lennon is a good manager?
17 Oct 2020 18:02:38
Eh? last 3 times we played em with a full squad we won twice, fair do’s your no happy but don’t just start making crap up .
17 Oct 2020 18:12:28
A said before a ball was kicked this would be the response. as predicted good night.
17 Oct 2020 18:26:17
Its an odd time to be a Celtic supporter, actually its an odd time to be anything at the moment but that's another debate.
If I am honest todays performance was not unexpected because we have been watching this turgid slow dross for the last two years apart from a few exceptions.
Other teams failings have papered over the cracks in our setup and performances.
Before the game today Sky were talking to Walker and McCoist from afar in the gantry and between them was a picture of the King in all his glory, that started me with stories of our first attempt at ten and the pressure we were under at the time to deliver it.
My son asked me if I thought this team could deliver and I said under this manager no.
This game just confirms my fears, I genuinely feel for Neil Lennon he has given everything to Celtic but I do believe if he is the manager next year we will stick on nine.
I hope to God I am wrong but a good squad only becomes a good team with a good manager.
17 Oct 2020 18:31:22
See when he does go, keep in mind this thread. it was on the cards and you chose not to see it because of good old overrated blind faith and naivety.
17 Oct 2020 18:37:48
after ajetis spell on the park it was clear to see he wasn't fit to start but agree with the rest.
17 Oct 2020 18:52:36
the fact is we were well beat, we are not a good team and we may not have been the team we thought we were, as in was it the fact that every other team were cack and so we thought we were better than we were and now that ranger have improved it shows up our real quality and its nowhere near as good as we thought, can't think of one player at this time that would get into the rangers first team. i agree with ed moyes would make a huge difference to our club.
{Ed007's Note - There's nothing wrong with the standard of players we have and we have by far the best squad in the country by a mile. The big problem on the footballing side is the man in charge, his tactics and methods are outdated and now it looks like he has even lost the ability to motivate his players.
It's obvious that the standards the previous managers set have drastically slipped and if we can see that then players must see that too.
Have the likes of Brown, McGregor, Ntcham, Ajer, Forrest and others had their eyes opened under Deila and Rodgers and now see how inferior Lennon is in setting their training and especially in their preparation for matches? What does Duffy & Moi think of the standards behind the scenes?
Is the manager's ability a stumbling block when it comes to attracting players?}
17 Oct 2020 17:04:17
I don’t have much confidence in lennon’s team as l did when it was Rodgers team going for the title.
17 Oct 2020 17:26:38
But yet they proved you wrong.
17 Oct 2020 17:45:52
lennonatwork, do you think neil will turn this around?
17 Oct 2020 18:18:08
LENNONSÒONTOBEOUTOFWORK are you going to answer robroy67's question?
17 Oct 2020 19:57:26
So mally if you knew the outcome and so the response before a ball was kicked then surely you can't defend Lennon's position.
17 Oct 2020 20:00:02
Yes I am confident we will win the league this season.
{Ed007's Note - 👍👍👍👍
17 Oct 2020 17:01:20
Barkas- Terrible. No presence, no confidence his demeanour says it all.
Duffy - Poor. Wrong attitude. Arguing with team mates. Wanted too much time on the ball. He thought he was here to stroll it. Needs to up his game.
Welsh - I thought he did OK considering only his 2nd appearance.
Ajer - Again attitude needs to be questioned. Sloppy at times. doesn't look comfortable in a back 3. Only positives from him is he tried to drive forward.
Frimpong- Poor. Looks like he is playing with shackles on. Passing terrible throughout and didn't run at them at all.
McGregor- Did OK. 3.5.2 doesn't suit him. He tried to drive us forward at times.
Brown - Again ok but doesn't look like he enjoys the system.
Laxalt - Decent. Bit rusty but at least he was trying to make something happen.
Ntcham- Shocking. I have defended him vigorously in the past but he is at the point now where he has had enough chances to impress and just doesn't have it in him to perform consistently.
Elyounoussi- Poor. Should have scored. Again needs much more application. Clearly a talent but want to float in and out of games.
Klimala- Poor. No service. It was too easy for their defence. I like his attitude but questions need to be raised now as to whether he is the standard required.
Griffiths and Ajeti did OK when they came on. Other subs nothing to note.
The biggest issue we have this season is players looking disinterested. Ajer, Julien Ntcham, Christie, Edouard, Elyounoussi. We can't rely upon McGregor, Brown and Forrest forever. The squad was obviously depleted today but there's no excuse for lack of application or desire. In the next 2 games if we perform like this questions need to be asked if the players are playing for the manager.
17 Oct 2020 17:23:52
Post of the day and player by player narrative spot on apart from Ajer who is hopeless at defending.
17 Oct 2020 17:27:59
As previously stated on here, Lennon has lost the dressing room.
17 Oct 2020 17:29:54
Del Bhoy fair summary of individual performances.
17 Oct 2020 17:27:59
As previously stated on here, Lennon has lost the dressing room.
17 Oct 2020 17:29:54
Del Bhoy fair summary of individual performances.
17 Oct 2020 17:50:08
Del Bhoy great analysis of the squad today. only thing i would add is that frimpong was not poor, he was shocking. i have never seen a poorer
performance from a celtic player that i can remember. he has no heart for a fight.
17 Oct 2020 18:23:32
Robroy you are bang on
Just a wee laddie that can run fast but no football brain or grit to speak of
We will probably sell him for 30m in January knowing lawell.
17 Oct 2020 16:54:02
Summer of 2018 we made a terrible mistake in not signing John Mcginn as he was made for today, Ntcham is a passenger, Also although Lennon deserves stick what exactly does John Kennedy bring to the table? Just sits staring into space with his arms folded, He must be the most uninspiring character ever.
17 Oct 2020 17:07:40
Wgat like lennon. The guy thsts in charge. Yeah its kennedys fault. Watching a manager banging neff tobacco and sitting on his arse. But its definitely kennedy.
17 Oct 2020 17:14:40
agree and I've said for a while both lennon and gerrard are actually sort of old school managers leave the coaching to the coaches and are more motivators, micheal beale is always chewing gerrards ear on the bench with suggestions/ ideas/ info whereas kennedy and strachan for that matter are as dull as the colour black.
17 Oct 2020 18:19:34
The players look as motivated as Lennon, hardly moving. does he think no fans means he can sit on his arse all game, shocking performance no fight on the pitch and not one bit of encouragement from bench either. pathetic, rangers hardly got out of second gear yet strolled a win and McGregor hasn't a save to make. Embarrassing.
17 Oct 2020 18:32:58
Totally agree, A strong assistant is another set of eyes and a bit of fight and passion on the touchline, Kennedy has got neither.
17 Oct 2020 16:44:15
We have a very strong squad and we should of won that today with squad. There is 1 person to blame and that is Lennon.
McGregor, Ntcham and Brown does not work. It never has and never will. There is no creativity.
Tactics were shocking.
Sevco were all over us and I was embarrassed watching that.
17 Oct 2020 17:28:53
Lennon does have yo shoulder some of the responsibility but it is wrong to lay the whole blame at his door.
17 Oct 2020 17:43:57
Thought you said they were average and we would win 4 - 0. Based on the stats they weren't all over us.
17 Oct 2020 17:28:53
Lennon does have yo shoulder some of the responsibility but it is wrong to lay the whole blame at his door.
17 Oct 2020 16:41:48
Feel the need to say this, calmly
I love NL
Always will
He loves Celtic
And always will
Like us
However, I feel good about my team when they are heading in a positive direction
We want to see players improving
We want to hear players saying they want to be here
We want the team to have an identity and a personality
We want to see week to week or month to month progress
This isn't happening
We have regressed
We are stale and lacking dynamism
I think that is a TOP tier problem . if NL can't fore them up he should be fired.
We have the players we have and no ins or outs
In reality, we see the poor defending, and the ball watching and the poor set piece delivery and the slack passing
Is any aspect of our play ticking up, ie improving?
That is when you know there is a problem. Results paper over the cracks. Performances are always telling and more meaningful
That is why NL has to go
And I love NL.
17 Oct 2020 16:48:16
Lubo I’m very sad to say I agree and echo your sentiments.
17 Oct 2020 16:50:53
We played like this under Rodgers before he left. When NL took over he analysed it and wanted to speed up our attack and make fewer passes around the defence to attack. When switching to 3-5-2 it worked well and we looked deadly going forward but this season has gone back to the same old ways. The most touches our players had was our back 3 and the slow sideways and backwards passing has resurfaced again for some unknown reason.
17 Oct 2020 17:38:48
LubomirWho after reading your analysis of the squad and manager can I ask why you predicted a 4-1 victory today.
17 Oct 2020 17:56:52
Bravetart, and because of that we always allowed sevco to organise behind the ball . it was a sad watch.
17 Oct 2020 18:24:35
Oldkilly that was based on a line up that didn't happen.
17 Oct 2020 16:32:53
I've posted my thoughts on today and Neil earlier so need to repeat them. If anybody is interested scroll back. But I draw the line at calling the manager 'a joke' etc. A bit of respect I think is called for and he didn't give himself the job.
He has been a fantastic servant to Celtic and came to our aid in our hour of need or potentially we wouldn't have achieved 9. For that he will always have a place in my heart.
I do however as I said earlier have my doubts after today that he can achieve 10. One comment I thought was worthy of consideration was WGS.
WGS could I believe steady the ship and has the experience to do the 10. It might not be pretty but he could do it. He also I believe has the humility and maturity to pull the strings while letting Neil sit beside him and take the credit. He worked with his good friend Tommy Burns. I think WGS would welcome the opportunity to give a bit back to Celtic and to his old pal.
17 Oct 2020 16:57:48
Did Neil or the club show Scott Sinclair respect? Extending his contract then shoving in in the reserves to train with no intention of playing him.
Did Neil show the players who want away respect by basically blaming them for us being knocked of if CL
Did Neil show us fan any respect when he allowed the players to go for a piss up in Eire before an old firm (which we lost.
He came in our hour of need? What nonsense, you claiming no other manager wanted to or would have come to us back then?
We took a step back when we brought him in.
17 Oct 2020 16:59:32
Apologies for the tone of my reply JFP, 👍🏻.
17 Oct 2020 17:09:23
Lennon is in charge. Full stop. You can if and but all day but he is in charge. Players look lost. Just poor.
17 Oct 2020 17:35:19
Ryacelt no probs we’re all hurting tonight. God Bless my friend 👍☘️.
17 Oct 2020 17:38:25
NL must be removed from the job now.
17 Oct 2020 17:35:19
Ryacelt no probs we’re all hurting tonight. God Bless my friend 👍☘️.
17 Oct 2020 16:12:51
When Rodgers came in he revitalised a stagnant squad and prolonged Scott Brown's career. Since Lennon has came in he looks like is shortening player's careers. Fitness levels seem to have waned alarmingly.
I don't care what first 11 we play, the minimum you expect in any game, let alone a derby, is 100% effort and commitment.
17 Oct 2020 15:53:49
The same players will play again on Thursday. Even though most were pathetic they won't be dropped. This is Lennons problem. I knew today he wouldn't make subs unless we were 2 down or on 70 minutes. He changed the shape in the 85min - wtf. Why didn't Lennon do that at h/ t.
17 Oct 2020 15:53:37
The Milan derby is on premier sports 2 at 5, we can see what's up next.
17 Oct 2020 15:42:49
Thought the commentator cam out with an interesting stat today, only 5 times has the losing team of the first old firm match went on to win the league. After today's lack of desire from the players I don't see that being six, unless there are big changes 🤔.
17 Oct 2020 15:37:04
Hate singling anybody out but ntcham is a total sh@tebag wasted jersey turnbull way before him.
17 Oct 2020 15:43:10
Agreed
Frimpong also miles off 1st team quality.
17 Oct 2020 15:45:36
Oliver Ntcham stated publicly he wanted out over a year and a half ago, why is he still here.
17 Oct 2020 15:54:22
Agree Mally, Ntcham doesn't look interested.
17 Oct 2020 16:21:26
simples, no body wants him cause he is pish.
17 Oct 2020 16:22:50
If you scroll down to my post before kick off you will notice I said he should not have played today as he has been honking. I also said MOI should not have played as a striker (although he did play ok) .
Lennon needs to shoulder a large part of the responsibility because he got team selection and tactics wrong today.
17 Oct 2020 17:01:21
Before Ntcham stated he wanted to leave he was looking like a right good player, so he has the ability. He just doesn't want to be there so move him on, even if it's just at a small profit, that's what big clubs do.
17 Oct 2020 15:34:18
The reason for the focus always being on our defence is that we don't attack enough.
17 Oct 2020 15:37:27
And because we have players on defense who can't actually defend.
17 Oct 2020 16:22:50
Best form of defence is attack . Because we don’t give any teams anything to think about, their focus is on what to do to us. We used to alway score more than the opposition even if we lost a few. Now we don’t even make chances.
17 Oct 2020 16:28:47
We defend as a team so don't think you can single out defenders.
It has been stated on this forum countless times, by more than one poster that the weakness of the 3-5-2 is that you are open to the ball over the top into the channels, as was proven today.
Too often our wing backs were exposed or taken out the game, thus leading to our CBs being pulled out of position and it should be pointed out that our midfield were not helping out enough to cover when this happened.
17 Oct 2020 17:31:06
We don’t defend at all. We are static all over the park. We are slow, predictable and very easy to set up against and have been for a long time. And as a unit we have not improved despite the new players. And being honest, we have got out of jail on more than a few occasions.
17 Oct 2020 17:31:06
We don’t defend at all. We are static all over the park. We are slow, predictable and very easy to set up against and have been for a long time. And as a unit we have not improved despite the new players. And being honest, we have got out of jail on more than a few occasions.
17 Oct 2020 15:33:03
Been thinking it for a long time hoping it would change but Lennon has sucked the life out of this team .
17 Oct 2020 15:39:42
He has. its not good to witness
Still a hero . but our hero is at a crossroads
He should go. or will he be politely asked to step aside for someone more progressive?
He will not he a long term manager get Strachan in for remainder of season and let's grind this out and then Eddie Howe for start of next season.
17 Oct 2020 16:38:08
We can't be sure its as simple as that, but the management need to look at the second part of your sentence, chasaboy.
Unless this doesn't threaten their business model. In which case, congratulations all round.
17 Oct 2020 16:30:38
Would not get rid of lennon and certainly would not replace him with strachan.
The time to revisit this is the end of the season.
17 Oct 2020 15:22:43
Obviously that performance was totally embarrassing, probably the worst in my lifetime at home anyways. My major concern is why our whole squad look so unfit? Also I agree with most that Lennon looks done and has so ever since the loss to the Hungarian side in Europe but have the players any respect for the fans or themselves? The lack of effort in the game was a complete joke. Even the most green tinted Celtic fan must surly see there are problems? HH.
17 Oct 2020 15:30:57
It seems to me that Charlie nic might have been right about our transfer window. we all knew we needed a strong cb but never even bothered. Lenton must go if we want 10iar, he seems o have lost the dressing room and the players uninterested in playing. oh god I hope I am really wrong and this defeat will give them a kick up the arse.
17 Oct 2020 15:34:49
Michael
I have been saying this for a while
We don't have enough players who get it nowadays .
And Lennon is finished. washed out.
Our once proud team is reeling and weirdly, noone seems to care too much
Tough months ahead and NL won't make end November IMVHO.
17 Oct 2020 16:16:43
The team looks unfit because Lennon gives too much time off and the intensity isn’t there that it was under Rodgers. I know we were looking jaded towards the end of Rodgers spell but the players still looked a lot fitter.
17 Oct 2020 16:34:16
All this was said the last time we lost to rangers and the team bounced back and won the league by a decent margin. So this talk is premature.
Yes we lost today, yes we didn't play well enough and yes
Lennon and the team need to address that but remember this team is full of serial winners.
17 Oct 2020 15:15:37
I really don't know why people are surprised at the result. Lennon was a cheap poor choice to begin with and to be honest the players have looked disinterested and playing well below what we know they can play like.
Its to late to replace Lennon but I feel the damage has been done for this season.
17 Oct 2020 15:35:25
We could replace him tomorrow. easy to do.
17 Oct 2020 16:03:48
Who would you replace him with Lubomir and if we managed to get that person it takes times for him to get his ideas across and get the team playing and understanding that system. It might give a boost for a couple of games but for the most part time and a pre season is needed. The board made a big mistake in giving Lennon the job. They must shoulder the blame if this season is lost and if there isn't a dramatic improvement then I think it is.
17 Oct 2020 16:39:30
Short term WGS and Ronny would win us the leauge. Medium term, there are certainly options.
17 Oct 2020 17:14:56
Stupid Question who is WGS.
17 Oct 2020 17:48:54
Wee gordon Strachan.
17 Oct 2020 20:00:43
Ha cheers.
17 Oct 2020 15:09:11
Lennon didn't do himself any favours with his after match interview. He should just have said we underperformed in every area of the park and deserved nothing from the game. Congratulations to the opposition.
The worrying statistic is that's the last 3 times now that we've played them and they've played us off the park. That's not luck.
Cant make my mind up if Gerard just has Lennon out thought or if we've made them look good today. For me they weren't great but we were abysmal and worse heartless.
Unsure if they have the best team but they just might have the better manager.
Now have a question mark over Neils ability to achieve the 10 or whether he'll even survive this result. Not good enough today by a long long way. If that was a fight they won every round. The game was lost in the dugout for me before a ball was kicked.
17 Oct 2020 15:36:25
That is a thoughtful, top class post.
17 Oct 2020 15:48:58
Thanks Lubo 👍 A sore one today for all of us. Not just the defeat but the manner in which we accepted defeat. God Bless.
17 Oct 2020 15:49:42
They have a game plan and are tactically aware than us, it was plain to see.
17 Oct 2020 16:38:53
Neil Lennon always seemed more of a motivator than a tactician and this has been apparent with a lot of his team selections and substitutions since he took over.
We got away with it because we had a decent talented team that knew as long as they played well, all domestic opposition was beatable.
Our premature exits from the CL three years running have shown a lack of fitness, preparation and the ability to change games.
However, our weak domestic league papered over the cracks.
Now any motivation has completely evaporated and whenever we run out of ideas or find ourselves in difficulty, we don't see any encouragement, direction or instruction from the dug-out, only sideways glances to Kennedy, blank looks and worried expressions.
Substitutions are often questionable, mystifying or too late and only rarely make any difference, like at St Johnstone with Griff.
So what does he do today, he keeps Griff on the bench until late in the game to replicate his match-winning heroics?
Today we were outfought and outthought by a hungrier, by a more organized manager and team - not a better team man-for-man.
However, the teamwork and winning mentality is with them, while we look dishevelled and disjointed with players who either don't want to be here or have lost the appetite and desire to play for NL, the club and the support - who seem out of sight out of mind?
OK it's early in the season, but if we are totally honest we all saw this coming and we will see more of the same as long as he never learns from doing the same mistakes every single time.
We are all hurting and angry, even though some of the players don't feel the same as us; NL is a Celtic Man through and through, it takes a Big Man to do the right thing for the good of the club.
17 Oct 2020 16:24:18
JFP I was on the phone to my brother at half-time and made the same point about the game being gone before a ball was kicked.
We were discussing Neil Lennon's pre-match interview. He looked completely deflated and unenthusiastic. It was more like an pre-match interview following a defeat.
I get that he was annoyed the team was leaked, and rightly so, but I thought it was telling. What must his team talk have been like? If his mood was like that in the dressing room he was hardly in a position to fire up the players, not that they should need it.
A snake rots from the head down.
17 Oct 2020 17:52:19
All true but a leaked team is disgusting. unacceptable. shocking really
Horrible.
17 Oct 2020 14:56:39
Let's get it straight. We can all accept defeat if it comes from a team being better on the day. It's football and we can't expect to win all the time. But the attitude and complete lack of ideas or urgency from our players today was absolutely unforgivable. After the second goal went in each one of us knew there was no way back and the players showed that they felt the same. We had plenty of the ball etc but that's because they were happy for us to have it because we posed absolutely no threat. Really embarrassed by this one.
17 Oct 2020 16:39:19
Spot on, a shambles.
17 Oct 2020 17:06:08
Agree Kev it wasn't like the team was played off the park, we couldn't even pass the ball 20 yards without giving it away or passing it out of play it was awful from us. We made them look good and they scored with virtually their only 2 chances, one Barkas should've saved the other was rather fortunate. Morelos was allowed to get away with his usual tricks all game until he was booked before being subbed. The performance levels have been shocking for a while now and it was only a matter of time before someone took advantage of that. Hopefully this have the same knock on effect as December but I'm not optimistic something doesn't seem right as the team has yet to click and find top gear once this season.
17 Oct 2020 17:14:41
But why is that kev?
17 Oct 2020 14:56:02
To start with a positive, Welsh done well.
Is barkas better than bain?
How many chances do we keep giving ntcham to boss a game?
Moi?16 million?
This performance and defeat has been coming.
No excuses. players just not good enough.
17 Oct 2020 15:40:51
Great post . fair and honest.
17 Oct 2020 16:45:13
welsh done well no barkas not better than bain. ntcham to many chances and a better player when he's not playing. something not right right with moi can't put my finger on it bit I'm a fan. team lacks structure and personality.
17 Oct 2020 17:07:59
Laxalt done okay for me. Far more quicker and direct than Taylor but his early crossing is wasted as no one attacks balls in this team apart from Jullien, Duffy and Griffiths.
17 Oct 2020 17:16:39
We can all see the good and bad. Why can't our management team.
17 Oct 2020 17:48:01
Think lenny shod bite the bullet and give Griffiths 90 mins. He is a natural scorer! Should have been pn earlier today might have helped a bit.
17 Oct 2020 14:53:31
I posted on here before the start of this season that Lennon should go at the end of our attempt to win an historic 10-in-a-row - win or lose.
It's early days granted but so far we've had an 'apparent' handful of players that want out, players who look uninterested, dumped out the Champions League without a fight, scraped into the Europa Group stages and the football being played is not the Celtic way, which brings us to today's performance - brutal.
Personally I don't care if we ONLY win the League title this year as IMHO that should be the priority, but to be honest, I'm no longer convinced NL can get the performances out of this squad. Time will tell and by God I hope I'm wrong.
17 Oct 2020 14:59:12
I agree pedro something is wrong in paradise at the moment.
17 Oct 2020 15:25:20
Good logical post. I can't answer your question re NL capability.
17 Oct 2020 15:27:15
Even in the 90's when we played EBT Utd, Celtic were never as toothless and clueless as today. The writing has been on the wall for a wee while now and although I will not say this is a good Sevco side, they are at least a team that fight and play for each other, while we looked like eleven names in a hat thrown in for their first game. Only Ajer, Welsh and Laxalt impressed me.
There were too many passengers and under-performers from KO.
We knew there were problems and issues before and during the transfer window, with unhappy, unsettled players but today showed an unacceptable attitude and effort and was utterly embarrassing.
Either the manager has lost the dressing room, or the players have lost the desire and hunger to play for that jersey?
Either way it's very worrying and even allowing for injuries, challenge and absences, there's no excuse for that non-performance.
I don't think NL will walk or be sacked, but something is very wrong at the moment and needs to be addressed from top to bottom.
17 Oct 2020 15:32:27
They never used EBTs in the 90s Celtic_mad.
17 Oct 2020 15:42:25
Celtic mad, another great post.
17 Oct 2020 17:18:00
Celtic mad. Its a team that looks lost. Confused on the park.
17 Oct 2020 14:41:25
I can’t remember the last time we played Sevco at home without any shots on target. Clearly Lennon has lost the confidence from the dressing room.
17 Oct 2020 14:59:59
The last time we failed to score in a match at hone was 2009.
17 Oct 2020 15:02:47
the first time no shots on target since 2009 against anybody.
17 Oct 2020 15:20:30
Who will Lennon blame that woeful performance on this time?
Totally wrong team selected yet again and it didn't look like we were up for the challenge from the kick off. There was only 1 team showing any hunger today and the best team won!
There weren't any got pass marks and I'm not getting all this hype around Frimpong. The keeper was also shocking and big Duffy with his experience should never have played Goldson onside for the 1st but even allowing for that Barkas should have saved it.
17 Oct 2020 15:25:38
That happened a long time ago.
17 Oct 2020 14:34:24
Absolutely pathetic and embarrassing performance, totally ashamed. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon with the "it's early days the league isn't won in October" this is a whole lot bigger.
To me, Lennon has got to walk. His man management is dreadful and it seems he's lost the dressing room, he's been back 18 months, 3 teams have embarrassed us at home in Europe due to his tactics and i can't recall a celtic v rangers game we have had control of since his return. Freak results can happen, but when it's 3 times with the likes of cluj, copenhagen, then ferencvaros, enough is enough.
Lazio were far better than us both games and we got very lucky with 2 injury time winners, they weren't great performances by us and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take the specs off.
As for the rangers games, his first one when Forrest got the winner was a mistake by rangers and they played us off the park with 10 men.
Even the 2-0 game at ibrox we were poor and there was absolutely no urgency to the performances and the cup final last season somes it up.
Getting rid of him into this season might be a mistake as it will unsettle the squad but kiss goodbye to 10 in a row as long as he's in charge, the best we can hope for is rangers make there own mistakes because we aren't going to win the league based on our own performances.
Lennon out!
17 Oct 2020 15:27:50
interesting, ps I agree on lazio points. played off park twice
That is WHY we should focus on quality of performances, and in that regard or respect, he should go.
17 Oct 2020 14:31:08
That was absolute gash, playing tippy tappy at the back, no urgency to get forward. Not 1 shot on target at home, just look at BFKB face. Enough said.
17 Oct 2020 14:34:57
Buckie . NL can't get a rise out of them .
His excuses will be ready and in fairness we were under strength today.
Strachan talking a lot of sense.
17 Oct 2020 14:29:43
We can still win the league still hopefully got 3 more games against them But I am really sure we won't win the league if Lennon is in charge.
17 Oct 2020 14:38:23
The only way we will win the league is to sack lennon. He is a total joke and the players don't look interested.
17 Oct 2020 14:35:42
I agree Tony . NL was the answer. he isn't at the moment . maybe he isn't full stop and I can accept that
Belief is lacking.
17 Oct 2020 14:25:03
well, well. Not Lennon's fault today, obviously. Nevertheless, this group of players are grossly underachieving and it is time to weigh that with the historical aims of the season. I reckon WGS could come in and do a job; I reckon Ronnie could too. There's just no obvious game plan, never mind style or panache, to our play. Celtic were as good as they have been all season. That's why we'll lose the chance at history if we continue to expect different outcomes from the same predictable, stolid football.
17 Oct 2020 14:29:07
Taylor was pish we need a new left wing back .
17 Oct 2020 14:29:38
Just posted similar
I can forgive losing but it is how we lost and how we responded .
We seek to be unable to tackle
Or build play
Poor in the tackle
Poor in defense
Poor in possession
Just poor.
17 Oct 2020 14:40:52
The most disappointing thing was that all week I felt that Sevco would be more up for it than us. I know we had a lot of players missing but the lack of passion from those who played is very worrying.
Neil Lennon doesn't seem able to motivate this team, we continually underperform in big matches, it can't be coincidence.
I hope the club don't fall back on the line that we were unlucky with injuries, there is something badly wrong behind the scenes and the sooner that is addressed the better.
17 Oct 2020 14:41:02
Lennon does the exact same thing and keeps expecting a different out come. Madness. Lennon out before it gets too late spend the money and get a quality manager in.
17 Oct 2020 14:49:32
Deep river bhoy what are you talking about was only on for 20 minutes and the game was already lost.
I have watched Celtic for a long time and have never witnessed a performance like that.
Big improvement needed.
17 Oct 2020 14:37:07
Very good deep river boy . currently looking to find a stat to slaughter Taylor
Today, frimpong was sp so so so poor but I'm not a fan of his at the moment.
He has no composure and camt defend. he is too young at the moment.
17 Oct 2020 15:29:34
Lenny I think DRB was being ironic.
17 Oct 2020 12:21:04
we need to be honest here and say this is going to take a monumental performance to get the result today with this team and our bench i wouldn't even say is half fit. i know we all will get behind this team.
17 Oct 2020 12:25:44
Liam you are bang on
Celtic 2 / 1
Sevco 11 / 8
Says it all really.
17 Oct 2020 13:28:29
This is a tough watch. Little creativity, no cutting edge, NL looks like a loss child on the bench. He will have to produce a piece of brillant management to win this.
His buys since January look less than quality, Barkas Duffy, Soro, Kilmala and having to play Laxsalt so early in his celtic career.
Hopefully Turnbull Griffiths and Ajeti may change our luck.
Ajer and Ntcham look so out of form why oh why have we not found a left sided central defender since Van Dyke left that shows clear lack of leadership.
17 Oct 2020 13:33:30
Jonace we will take a draw
They have played better I think. better interlink
Our defending at set pieces is amateurish
On the other hand they are better at that
Laxalt, I think, has been good
I'd propose
Olly for Turnbull eventually
Griff for klimala
Ajeti for moi
And don't be surprised if we see rogic for last 5
Of course, if they score again ( likely ) and score next, then this could go from 1 1 to 0 3 quite easily.
17 Oct 2020 13:48:14
NL has to take the responsibility for this shambles. He bought Barkas (suspect again) , put this team together and picked that starting formation. Been said for weeks results have papered over the cracks. This team are not good enough. Too many wishsy washy tippy tippy players.
17 Oct 2020 13:49:37
Oh dear . we are so so so passive . I think the week has been disrupted and we are not at the races .
They look better and more joined up
Celtic look ragged and disjointed . big game players like duffy. Baker. olly and moi not at races.
17 Oct 2020 13:57:01
Chinks . I don't like losing but I do mind losing passively.
17 Oct 2020 13:59:36
Correct, there is not even any fight ot true desire. Ntcham for me would be first out the door. Followed by Ajer, and Moi.
17 Oct 2020 14:01:07
As I've said previously 3 5 2 is a formation that kills play, 3 cbs is absolute overkill, it shows a massive weakness toward confidence in my eyes, lennon can't sit there and moan on the sideline what is he expecting, this line up is shocking, regardless of players missing today.
Excuses are far too frequent, the simple solution is get rid of this 352 pish 4 3 3 all day long.
17 Oct 2020 14:01:57
When will all accept that Kris Ajer is a big poser who can't defend
Barisic versus Frimpong is a huge mismatch
I don't want to hear Frimpong this and Frimpomg that. or Koi is class.
Just poor.
17 Oct 2020 14:05:26
Players like Moi, Duffy, Klimala have been shown well and truly up today, and we celtic fans have to admit this is not a stronger team than we had last year, the football is far worse, no urgency in play, its awful to watch.
17 Oct 2020 14:12:12
Turner, it's TRUE.
17 Oct 2020 14:15:30
Moi is a poser
Ajer is a poser
Duffy. well enough said .
2 subs with 7 minutes to go? Why?
We are a soulless team . Lacking bite and fight
They have beat us all over the park
It was men against wee boys today I'm afraid and any reasonable person would agree.
17 Oct 2020 14:16:25
At home playing defensive is embarrassing, the midfield should be top of the passing stats not all 3 cbs.
17 Oct 2020 14:32:13
Totally.
17 Oct 2020 11:49:22
Wasn't confident before team news, even less so now. Why no Ajeti, Klimala rather than Griff, Welsh? Yes we are short at the back but could have went to a 4. On paper we are weak but games aren't won on paper so let's hope NL has got it right and we are all wrong. I think Turnbull, Griff and Ajeti will play a part, maybe even Rogic also. Bench looks as strong as the team!
17 Oct 2020 11:57:02
Chinks . it is a poor team and nowhere near full strength
That said . its all in front of them
A back 3 that hasn't played at all
A striker that was deemed not good enough for ferencvaros and now good enough for sevco
And moi in a role where most think he is ineffective.
17 Oct 2020 13:30:25
Welsh has been solid. Up front is weak. Griffiths needed, immediately.
17 Oct 2020 13:30:52
think this is another selection error by Lenny elanousi is inefectual get him off and bring on Rogic and Griff for kilimala.
17 Oct 2020 14:32:10
Lennon needs to go, he hasn't a clue n his ego would stop him making right 2nd choices chase him.
17 Oct 2020 15:38:18
My my what a difference 90 minutes makes we win our game in hand against the sheep there will be 1point in it so the heavens hasn't crashed in us yet I'd be worried if the darkside had 15 shots on target today calm down Tim's. hopefully we will be sharper when we get them at the nerday easy game next AC hhktf.
17 Oct 2020 11:48:14
No takers for my st pass as of yet offer still stands if anyone needs it.
17 Oct 2020 11:49:48
good gesture jaw.
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17 Oct 2020 11:59:30
If we have all seen the team then there'll be few takers for your pass
We need a minor miracle today . because this 11 is nowhere near a settled experienced 11 . our huge squad has proven not to be big enough
Wtf jullien?
Eddy not even on bench
Hmmmm.
17 Oct 2020 12:20:26
And someone still leaking team news, Welsh and Klimala touted as starters.
17 Oct 2020 14:33:33
Chinks, brother had team last night. and let me know this morning. thought it was a wind up
But leaked teams. well? WTF,?
17 Oct 2020 11:29:59
Duffy and Ajer will be up against Morelos, who can't help from Diving, Hagi also likes to fall without much contact, Sevco also have slugger Kent, and then there is Beaton, who has selective eyesight, Good Luck Celtic.
17 Oct 2020 11:29:46
Checked out the dark side there lads. Every time same lads same post every year how they are going to destroy us blah blah. They have one advantage no crowd for us to push our players on they would only have 800 fans at our 5 start jaunt 8 of there fans is too much🤭🤭.
But hopefully Lenny has got our phsychologist guru in there heads.
The league is the most important thing the game in hand is to our advantage so they are desperate as if they lose SHXXX will hit the fan.
They keep saying the same things but they know that the league is the number one thing they have to win or its bust again and back to the drawing board.
17 Oct 2020 11:06:10
Barkas
Duffy
Welsh
Ajer
Brown
Mcgregor
Frimpong
Ntcham
Laxalt
Elyounoussi
GRIFF
Rumour this is the team. I hope not because they will have a field day down the right.
17 Oct 2020 11:17:21
Rumour or not #kev83
This is our first team squad most are first team squad players. 4,4,2,
That team above should be capable. Griff on bench start with klamila his running around will have them backed up I like how he does things off the ball takes players away. Etc. If we go at them we win. Also a gd thing our squad have not played a rangers game so rangers IE Gerrard, won't know what to do as they are unfamiliar.
17 Oct 2020 11:18:54
You got it right apart from Griff. Klimala starts. Awful selection.
17 Oct 2020 11:23:50
Maybe with that, we can switch from a 4-5-1
Barkas
Ajer Duffy Welsh Laxalt
Frimpong Brown Cal-Mac Ntcham MOI
Griff
to a 3-5-2 and have options from the bench as-and-when?
17 Oct 2020 11:28:53
Brown, Ntcham and McGregor CANNOT play together - we can all see that so why can't Lennon?
17 Oct 2020 11:31:36
Yep your on fire 🔥@celticmad.
17 Oct 2020 11:32:37
Totally agree bigbubs lennon is tactically stupid. We should be playing 2 strikers and get at them from the start. They will over run us in midfield yet again.
17 Oct 2020 11:37:30
Ntcham better deliver today as he has been honking this season and I have yet to see him put in a performance he is capable off.
Also if we are going two up front I would not have played MOI as second striker as I reckon either griffiths or ajeti would have been better choices.
17 Oct 2020 11:39:51
CM i definitely think it will be a 4.
17 Oct 2020 11:46:52
Wow @marco18888.
Why don't you jinx us. Tacticly stupid I hope you eat your words.
17 Oct 2020 10:11:19
I don’t mind Lennon playing Taylor if it’s a back 4 but if he’s playing with wing backs, Laxalt must get the nod to start the game.
Also the only way I would start with Elyounoussi would be in the midfield of a 4-5-1 formation.
Lennon can’t start him as a forward because he is too ineffective.
Celtic have 4 forwards and we can make 5 substitutions, so there is no excuses to play certain players out of position.
Celtic will bring their home form to the game tomorrow and I don’t see many problems especially if we stick to those 2 rules.
17 Oct 2020 10:44:37
I have seen several permutations below with all sorts of selections; but as long as we match their aggression, attitude and effort in every area, we still have more quality and experience and as you say, any substitutions have to be used at the right time in the right way. It cannot be a dithering, half-hearted start, like in other games and we have to be well up for the fight as well as the football.
17 Oct 2020 11:19:34
Exactly @celticmad go at them it's only 90 mins we play high tempo games to the end and ware teams down. Then our subs come on and win the day 😊.
17 Oct 2020 10:19:06
Could laxalt go in at the left side of the 3.
Big decisions for NL.
17 Oct 2020 10:28:49
He lwb if your going to put anyone there it will taylor he's more defensive minded.
17 Oct 2020 11:07:02
I think with so many missing, we have to play as many regulars as possible to keep some sort of familiarity and understanding.
Barkas
Ajer Duffy Taylor
Frimpong Brown Cal-Mac Turnbull/ Ntcham Elyounnousi
Griffiths/ Paddy/ Ajeti
Would be a possible starting 11 with plenty options on the bench.
17 Oct 2020 09:56:12
Having James Forrest and 3 centre backs out makes it hard for Celtic to play either of our normal formations.
So Lennon is faced with a hard choice. So does he pick:
A. Play one of the normal formations with all players in their natural positions but fielding an inexperiened Dembele or Welsh
B. Play ofofthe normal formations but play someone out of position as a CB or RW
C. Play a different formation with everyone in their normal position.
Personally i think he will go for B, 4-2-3-1 and play someone out of position at RW. My team would be
Barkas
Frimpong ajer duffy laxalt
Brown mcgregor
? Turnbull (please not ntcham) MOI
Ajeti.
17 Oct 2020 09:44:47
OK guys bets I have already put on and ones I think are almost a certainty
Brown booking 5/ 6 (even bookies agree here)
Penalty and ordering off 6/ 1
Penalty 13/ 8
2 penalties 12/ 1
Morelos 8/ 15 (I used to get 4/ 1 )
Jack boking 13/ 10
Kent 10/ 3
Most if not all of these bets will come up, Beaton has been told.
17 Oct 2020 10:30:38
Will Jack be boking after broony scores the 5th lol.
17 Oct 2020 07:39:05
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