Celtic Banter Archive October 17 2011

 

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17 Oct 2011 22:22:52
I don't know why rangers fans want us out the Europa league, although Europes always good, surely the league is what we need to concentrate in now, it's just a chance to pick up injuries and drop points in the spl, such as after Atheltico and Udinese

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I am one Rangers who want you to stay in Europe at least up untill xmas as regardless of the court hearing Celtic will still receive around 5 mil so im hopping they get tired and pick up a few injurys while earning this money and it will be all the better for Rangers if Sion get reinstated as thats another two strength sapping games to pic up the odd injury.

Tony

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17 Oct 2011 22:19:51
Man City - 2 Celtic - 4 ...bring on the youth !

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17 Oct 2011 21:32:42
Hay ed. How's things? I know we are n abit of bother at the mo on the football front but I think the bhoys got a real kick up the arse at the weekend but what is going on with the queens tax dodgers?? I've never seen so many jump ship since the titanic haha Tax bill straight a head haha.Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - They deserve a boot up the ar5e BIM. I'm not 100% sure what is going on at Rangers right now. Strange timing for Greig to go though.}

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I think lennon also needs a boot up the arse

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17 Oct 2011 21:36:53
on uefa website they have now drawn up scenarios incase the Court Arbitration for Sport find in sions favour these include starting group I over again with a five team league playing 4 games to away to at home all other scenarios are explained on here

www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/news/newsid=1698070.html

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17 Oct 2011 21:33:32
Well done young hoops show your counterparts how to do it hh jiggythetim hh

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17 Oct 2011 21:13:00
well done Neil Lennon! you have once again proved that you dont have a clue what you are doing. Playing Samaras was bad enough, however letting Rasmussen go out on loan is yet again another blunder! 3 goals in 4 games for sivaspor

I have always said he was a good striker who never got a chance due to marque signing of keane.

Could of saved money signing Bangura and signed a decent centre half with money.

Time for a new manager before season gets any worse

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I think Rasmussen is a very good striker and the target man that Celtic are crying out for. Stokes is similar to Naismith, he's at his most dangerous when he's taking players on and can score from way out with a wee bit of magic, so playing him on the right side of midfield or just behind a striker and a target man upfront would be deadly imo. (Rangers fan)

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17 Oct 2011 20:30:59
Can't wait until this tax case is finished because no matter what win or lose Rangers till I die. If we go bust then so be it I will still have great memories from my time as a Glasgow Rangers fan. You lot are entitled to gloat if the shoe was on the other foot I would be the same and lets face it there is nothing you can gloat about on the SPL front.

Billyboy1

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17 Oct 2011 19:22:18
Tony reading your posts earlier, particularly about "boring tax case" from Timalloy and Miko. I can recall a few posts where tim said that whyte needed money to keep going until january, and you and all the bears rubbished him. Well tonight on BBC it was stated that there were worries that Rangers might run out of money before end of year. Is that not what our bold Timalloy and Miko were saying.
Sometimes tony, the truth may be "boring" but it is still the truth. hail hail Neil T
PS heard only 20,000 tickets sold for tomorrow, whyte must be panicking as he counted on 50,000 as one bear posted with fox tv covering game making rangers £3m ha ha

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Still sitting 10 points ahead of you not bad for a skint team. Makes your team look even worse.

Jambo

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Maybe 10 points clear but the 1m question is will there be a rangers team next year ?

50 million in debt plus whatever else uses owe thr banks.

come on you bhoys in green
lenny

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17 Oct 2011 19:15:13
Anyone know if there ls a live stream for tonites Man. City v Celtic Next Gen game?

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Anyone any idea on the score ?

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

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17 Oct 2011 19:10:38
my god ED a fink rangers fans like our rumours and banter pages just aff their pages and nothing really gettin said there so ED a fink you are doin a great job coz it looks like the rangers ed is borin lol.stef1967. {Ed007's Note - The Rangers ed (014) only pops in when she can. She's a Rangers and Man City fan so you can imagine how we get on ;-) If she wasn't a wee stunner I would get her sacked!!!}

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Any pics ed! {Ed007's Note - Not to share ;-)

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17 Oct 2011 18:30:39
rite ED just missed on sky sports news that they are discussin how to get sion bak in they have thought of a couple of ways like playing extra 2 games but a dont no the other suggestions it gave a few things that might happen can u fill me up with the rest of it cheers,stef1967 ps lookin like they are in. {Ed007's Note - Sorry mate, I only watch SKY when Hayley McQueen is on, I have heard she fancies me ;-)

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Now now ED lol.stef1967. {Ed007's Note - You can't blame the lassie!}

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The are 3 options. 1 is Sion joining the group stages as things stand and catching up on the two games. 2 is scrap the group and start it from scratch with 5 teams in it. 3 is Sion starting the competition at the last 32. I only watch SSN when Georgie Thompson is on (what a babe) :-)
followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - An Ant andDec cast off?? Elevate your taste in trolls FF81 mate, I bet you think that munter Biffa Cole is nice!!! A WWE catfight would sort it out though ;-)

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That what if thought ff81 a new it was somethin like that and ithought rite but wasnt sure to post it cheers.stef1967.

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I wouldn't say No to her (Mrs Cole) lol. I even thought sticky vicki was a stunner with my bear goggles on lol only kidding.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Moneypenny went mental when Vicky came over for a blether and asked how I was!!!}

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17 Oct 2011 18:23:10
Alright Ed? You and the rest of the Celtic fans will be gutted that McFadden has signed for Everton. He would have been a great signing for your treatment table lol. That's another part of Whytes jigsaw in place with the resignation of Greig & McClelland. Rangers fans will never hear the true story due to Whyte having a written agreement with both of them not to speak about it which is a shame.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - I honestly would love to hear what Greig has to say. I think Rangers fans could get a shock as well.}

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17 Oct 2011 18:05:25
has anyone else heard the rumour regarding the tiff between commons and lennon.
maybe this has been on here already, but according to some workmates, when lennon had a go at commons, commons replied along the lines off... "i wont take orders from someone who comes to work smelling of drink" ??

as i said there is no hard facts, just a bunch of guys like the majority of us havin a blether.

Liam cfc {Ed007's Note - Commons is a disgrace mate. I can't say much because there is no hard evidence.}

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I really am not saying this happened or not but i have heard roumours that commons said something about the bullets and bombs sent to Lennon am not trying to be smart or funny it is just what i have heard which was what the fall out was about

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Ed, you seem to know something, will we ever find out? Where's your source? Go on, spill the beans, lol......Miko {Ed007's Note - Commons has always been a bit of a clown Miko, none of the English Eds are surprised with what is going on.}

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He's signing books at the shop in Argyle St tomorrow between 3 + 4, maybe some1 should ask him what he's playin at.

Mark67

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Mark67, he should be signing on at the job centre if what people have said are true. Did Rangers have a lucky escape by being out bid with Celtic?
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17 Oct 2011 17:27:02
ref part of your post

ps the fact u dont want scottish football to progres in europe shows just how bitter towards celtic u really are ..... that aint healthy son..... will end up sending you to the doctors!

i never said i dont want scottish football to progress i said i dont want celtic to progress and if you are asking me am i bitter towards celtic Well YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

thats like asking Miko,Tim,etc are they bitter against rangers

ask any celtic fan for the sake of scottish football do they want Rangers to win the taxcase

dont be surprised if you get a negative answer

Miko,Ed do you want rangers to win the tax case

Tony {Ed007's Note - What do you think??? Of course I don't mate, as a CFC fan I want to see Rangers gubbed, my dad would spin in his grave if I didn't. Although I do think Scottish football needs a shot in the arm and about the co-efficiency etc, but when push comes to shove we are still rivals and it is good to gloat over each other when we can.}

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Just as i thought Ed

is there any other Celtic fan that would like rangers to win the taxcase for the sake of scottish football please come forward. i think you will find you are in the minority here Germinator how many celtic fans hoped we beat Maribor or Malmo for the sake of scottish football

Tony {Ed007's Note - No point of me lying and pretending to sit on the fence mate.}

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Tony, I absolutely want Rangers to lose the tax case and Celtic to do well for the sake of Scottish football. Rangers have been winning leagues with players they couldn't afford.....it's called cheating. I wouldn't want them to go bust, however you lot were laughing at us in the early 90's when we were on the cusp of bankruptcy. Then there was the broken crest in the Daily Ranger, etc. Bad times during which Fergus McCann had to rebuild the club, allowing Rangers to complete 9IAR. I'm with Ed on this one, defo! What goes around comes around, happy days!.....Miko

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Clown boy, show me werei said that celtic fans would want us to do well ? show me were i said I want Celtic to do well.?
Did I say celtic fans wanted us to do well in europe course i didnt i cant speak for them. I wantd celtic to beat Sion and qualify, im still glad that they are in the groups ..... lol you dont want scottish teams to do well in europe .... remind me were celtic are from ya spud?! did i say i want celtic to be succesful naw, did i say i want them to win the europa naw? tax case ?! i never even mentioned this, u just spouted out a paragrapgh of gash talk and tried to insinuate thats what i meant .... in reality i shouldnt have expected to know what i meant...... funny that wouldnt be like.

Germinator

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17 Oct 2011 17:05:07
classic you've done it now Ed LOL {Ed007's Note - ?}

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17 Oct 2011 16:07:52
right tony son, u asked for this ..... if i thik you post dross im entitled to say so, i reckon if i done a poll on here im prettys sure if i asked who has time for Tony we all know the results ... as far as sucking up .... u do realise that i was having a go at Neil T's post ya eidjit ! honestly ?!
further on that note the eds (well ed07) has had two posts directed at him for stuff on this site i dont like or agree with but are not posts to be aput up on here.

If you wanna have a go then fair do's prepare to be humiliated tho.

ps the fact u dont want scottish football to progres in europe shows just how bitter towards celtic u really are ..... that aint healthy son..... will end up sending you to the doctors!

Germinator {Ed007's Note - My apologises Germ. I certainly never intended to offend you or anyone else.]

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Its kl ed as i said in the post it was obv said in the heat of an arguement etc.... apology accepted.

Germinator {Ed007's Note - Thanks.}

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.....and they all lived happily ever after! lol....Miko {Ed007's Note - Eff off you ;-)

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Germinator on a different subject (forget tony) what do you as a rangers fan make of John Greig resigning? My take is Whyte is filling board with his "yes" men all the old guard who warned you bears about Whyte are now gone, are you worried which way whyte is taking your club, I can see these two issuing writs next ha ha, but seriously I see there is a tv programme on thursday that whyte tried to stop again via the courts, Whyte should just buy a flat next to the high court as he is there more than at Ibrox.By the way good to see at last journalists questioning whyte the previous attempts by messrs Young, Traynor, Keevins etc amounted to calling the Ibrox Press Office for a quote great journalism boys. Neil T

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Says Miko the hooped Tony !

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Are you suggesting we are one and the same?.....Miko {Ed007's Note - NNNNOOOOOO!!!!. I think I'm going to cry.}

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To be honest i dont know ... all i can do is hazrd a guess. i reckon the move with John Greig was always on the cards, to get rid of him straight away would ahve made the fans feel a lot more uneasy. Id say he is doing things his way and he (Whyte) is defo not a yes man or do what others have done. I can only say what i see ... i see someone doing things very much the way he wants to do it .. he seems quite ruthless and willing to do things that are not the most popular.... whether this is for the benefit for himself the club or both i have no idea? it could be argued did Gers need John Greig on the books or can Gers afford to let someone so close to the club go?

the club is moving on .... we all hear that the club was a ran shoddily before now therefore to get it running properly would require major steps.

Again i can only speculate... Am i happy ? only time will tell, but life goes on and regardless what happens now come ten/twenty year down the line there will be some other crisis/drama/excitement ...... its the old firm ..... never a dull season goes by.

Germinator {Ed007's Note - I said all along that I thought it strange Greig spoke out against the take over. To me there are 3/4 people alive today that are 100% true Rangers men, WS, McCoist and Greig (maybe Durrant but I feel he is only there through compassion). I have met the three of them on a few occasions and have nothing but respect for them as men. I think something has went on behind the scenes that nobody knows, I did hear a while back that Martin Bain was going to call Greig as a witness.}

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Na not at all just saying that for every tony there is a Miko :oP {Ed007's Note - Like Ying and Yang. Miko should watch out though, Tim might get jealous if he is trying to cut his grass ;-)

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Ha ha quite appropriate if you merge Miko and tony together you get "Mony"
which is all moany tony does on these pages Neil T

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I have that effect on people, lol.....Miko

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I'd have thought that Whyte would have got Greig onside ASAP. I understand the rest of the departures, however the whole situation with Greig is a strange one. Even though Greig denounced Whyte's takeover, I think tactically, it would have been a masterstroke for Whyte to reel him in......Miko {Ed007's Note - He isn't the 'Greatest Ranger Ever' for nothing.}

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Correct Ed!....Miko

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17 Oct 2011 15:50:47
I have been holding back for a few weeks now to see if our performances were going to improve, however now seems to be the best time to get my thoughts out. Neil Lennon like many managers before him has his favourites and will always pick them no matter what their last performance was like. Forster is a good shot stopper but fails to command his area or help his back 4 out by giving them a shout when needed (like mulgrew's back pass) Give Zaluska a run in the team. Big Dan is never going to be the fans cup of tea, he lacks pace, positional sense and most of all he cant defend. He will cost us dearly and if the manager can't see that, then surely his coaching staff should have a word. We have Rogne on the bench who, whenever he plays seems to be unfazed by anything. Matthews has done well for a young guy at right back and we know that Izzy will be back soon. The big decision for me is in the middle of the park. Kayal has been out of sorts lately but we know he is good and will run himself into the ground for Celtic. Ledley should be beside him in the middle, he's wasted on the left. Young Forrest and McCourt should be given the freedom to roam and Hooper would be the 1st name on my teamsheet every week. Stokes, the man Lennon doesn't seem to trust in big games pretty much saved him his job at the weekend and should partner Hoops up front in every game. This is Lennon's team and if he doesn't get success is he any better than Mowbray? I dont think so. No man is bigger than Celtic and if he cant take the pressure he should walk away now. The fans can see our frailties so surely 4 ex-professional footballers can also. Lets get behind the team and show them why we are the best supporters in the world.

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I agree, get behind the team! This league's not over.....Hail Hail!...Miko

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The celtic TEAM should be more than just a sum of its parts if you read most of the books about the lions then the most important thing according to them was the team spirit, fighting for you team m8s, unfortunately rangers seem to have a stronger bond than we do at the momentf , fab1

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On big Dan I don't think we can blame the manager entirely. Sure he had his critics, but I thought he was for the most part a good player last year and we missed him when he was out injured. This season he's been a total shambles, much like many of the rest of the team.

However I'd still have brought someone else in at CB as he's not getting any younger and is in his final contract year as are a few other CBs at the club. I agree Rogne should be given a shot, but again he'd be just tweaking the team around in doing so.

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17 Oct 2011 15:20:28
What do you think of John Sutton and Jamie Murphy coming to parkhead? I think the two of them together would be great for us.
thoughts?

Paul

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Personally, I don't think Sutton's good enough for us, although I know of others that share your point of view. Murphy, I dunno??......Miko

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17 Oct 2011 15:16:32
ed007 why didnt you post what i said about lawell and dd no one else seems to be defending them so it cant have been repetitive,and it certainly was not sectarian.i have made contributions to this site since i found it but if you dont print all the points of view then it is a waste of time ,fab1( if someone takes the trouble to post you a point of view that meets the criteria then you should post it,you have probably noticed there is alot of space on the internet so it will cope ) {Ed007's Note - I am just popping in and out today. I have no idea and I can't remember seeing your post, sorry.}

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17 Oct 2011 14:09:21
Ref: these riots would have happened no m atter what fans were involved including Celtic fans......
Before my illness I ran a supporters bus home and away and also went to european away games. In my experience I found the vast majority of Celtic fans friendly towards opposing fans, even in defeat. We only have to go back to Seville, 200,000 fans, we got beaten but not one bit of trouble. In Seville too the organisation in some parts of the town was poor because of the sheer number of celtic fans but we all accepted it with a smile on our faces.
Contrast that with all the thugs(and I use the word carefully) in manchester, and for tony and others to defend them, beggars belief.
Tony is quick to accuse Celtic fans whenever he can but to gloss over the thousands of rangers hooligans in manchester is a disgrace and Tony you should be ashamed of yourself. It was not "english" fans it was thousands of hooligan Rangers fans rioting, acknowledge it. sorry rant over but Tony is a hypocrite. Neil T

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Neil i aint defending Tony one iota as he talks as much drivel on these sites as the next man however you have totally missed the point in the post. The trouble did not occur cos of the result (the trouble started during the game) the trouble started because the screens stopped showing the crowd the build up to the game and just turned off ..... when gers fans tried to leave (there was cages around the viewing area) police refused to let them out ..... not a single one so thousands of fans were trapped inside a caged sqaure just before the game and were being told that they were not being allowed out to watch the game under any circumstances .........

Now you have a group of scots/brits infact anywer have them drinking all day in the build up to the biggest sporting night in a lot of their lives,only to tell them 5 mins afore kickoff that they are not getting to watch it and are not being let out and will be "improsined for the forsee-able time (they werent told how long they had to be there for. how would you think this wold unfold regardless of who's fans they were .....

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Neil t

i did not defend the fools that caused trouble and if you can read you will see i admitted that it was rangers fans as well as non rangers fans that caused trouble and im sick to the back teeth of people like you not reading the posts properly read the damn post properly before commenting. and as for you Germinator you may think i talk dross but at least i dont come on here and kiss ass like you with crap like i wish you luck in Europe boys for the sake of co-efficiency you must be the only ger on the planet that wishes celtic luck i wish them luck all bad of course but everybody on here who knows me knows that i dont just tell people what they want to here.

rant over

Tony

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Your spot on the result did not cause the riot after all you won in barca,dont remember any riots in lisbon ,milan or seville or maybe the pro celtic media covered them up..........lol.fab1

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Absoulte tosh! My Rangers supporting friends were in Manchester for the game and promptly left early because they said there was an insidious atmosphere beforehand.

You're making excuses, they were not told they were not going to see the game because technicians were frantically trying to resolve the issue, whilst being pelted with bottles from the Shame! This is fact!

Rangers fans are notoriously bad, hence "Scotlands Shame!"

Miko

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Miko what about the 26 Celtic fans arrested in blackburn on route to Seville dont they count

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Nope, we're on about Rangers supporters rioting in Manchester for all to see as it made the National News, ffs. Surely there can be no comparison, what were the 26 fans en route to Seville arrested for?........Miko

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Is that the same blackburn game where a rangers fan wearing a rangers top ,ran from the home end and tried to incite the celtic fans,oh dont tell me he wasnt really a rangers fan either,how come when you say 200thousand fans went to manchester you count the hangers on but not when they cause trouble? fab1

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Yes and i remember the riot in blackburn and it was started by 3 English yobs with rangers shirts on tossing bottles at the celtic fans standing outside the mcdonalds . those celtic fans responded and the 3 gers fans ran into a crowd of police officers and things started up from there.

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17 Oct 2011 14:01:13
Rather amusing to see a "Support England" google ad on the Celtic pages ed !
Must be all those 'gers fans that are coming on. Lol.
The Real KB

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17 Oct 2011 13:09:42
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So John Greig put you lot in that position ok bury your head like i said you would do. He is rangers through and through and has been pushed out by Whyte

if you look at my post you will see i said he was part of the board and dont give me all this pi5h about him being rangers through and through if you want to cast your mind back to last season ie we are all Neil Lennon, candle light vigils, in Neil Lennon we trust the guys Celtic through and through and yet 99% of the posters on here were calling for his head on saturday because you hadnt won i three games and would have paid his taxi fare as long as it was one way if you bought a business and it was failing would you want to keep any of the people that where involved in the decision making while the business was failing

Tony

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I have never stated that Lennon was the man for the job from day 1 and it looks like i am being proved correct. However we have had it all from you lot about John Greig being Mr Rangers and now he has packed in he is partially to blame for the state of your club. Take your head out of the sand and have a proper look at your club whyte is the devil in disguise.

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You're going down Tony, everything's ticking along just nicely, the sequence of events over the last year should be telling you a story, however you're in denial!.....Miko

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17 Oct 2011 12:08:57
Ahh Tony, that explains it, you only 'support ' rangers so you dont stick out in the crowds.

Always knew you were a tim lol

Evinguu

well thats me found out m8 seems we have caught onto each other yep im a tim that supports rangers so i can cause trouble and make em look bad the level us tims will sink to eh lol

as for you mate you are the exact opposite you are a bear that comes on here with intellectual and interesting posts and post as a tim in order to make it seem that they have more than two functional brain cells. nice try but after all your hard work Timalloy comes on and rants about the taxman and ruins it lol maybe we should just swap tops m8

Tony

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Haha, we both better be careful now !

We will have the Para brigade from both sides on a quest to try and show us as exactly what you described! But hey if it brings together a few Rangers fans and a few Celtic fans in solidarity on a matter who am i to complain lol

I do take your comment as a compliment! very high praise from a Ger to a Celt :)

Tim just cant help himself, and when hes having fun who can blaim him.

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We all like a bit of fun m8 but tim is getting rather repetitive and lets be honest the guys as funny as toothache. he is like one of those guys who always answer a question with because only he has substituted because with taxman lol


tony

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I can uderstand that repetitiveness leads to tiresomeness (if thats a word lol). Think at times we all need new ways to wind up folk. Sadly us tims dont have much bragging rights at the minute so anything we can use, is backdated or repetitive im afraid. You will have to wait on the banter getting better when we actually start acheiving something lol

well onto tax, it could be taxman that there is a lot going on in that regards that he feels important taxman he is a tic fan. this relates to us taxman we all like rubbing things in to our oppositions faces. just the way of the world of the old firm. And it possibley has wider ranging implications too.

Dont get me started on it taxman i will never stop. suprise suprise. Although i dont envisage it all as doom and gloom for rangers like a lot of others do. thats all i will say on the matter taxman it can get quite heated lol.

Yeah i can actually see how changing because for taxman would become tiresome.

I aint gonna slag him off as i have not had many dealings (if any i think) with mr timalloy ....... yet lol, altho i do read some of his well ahem jokes, some make you cringe others make you cry, some make you go aye ok , some make you grin a little.

But who is going to lower the tone once in a while, without being a full on bigot, i suppose step in MR Timalloy lol

Evinguu

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17 Oct 2011 11:14:44
What is going on at Ibroke 2 more directors leaving 1 of them being Mr Rangers himself a Mr John Greig. Strange goings on indeed. How many will bury their heads in the sand on this one.

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How many Celtic directors left or got the chop when fergus took over

people forget these guys regardless of who they where helped put the club in the state it is in

Tony

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How many Celtic directors left or got the chop when fergus took over

differance is we wanted them to go

David

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So John Greig put you lot in that position ok bury your head like i said you would do. He is rangers through and through and has been pushed out by Whyte.

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No difference m8 in every business new broom clean sweep especially if members of the current board tried to sabotage your bid for control

i dont pretend to know what goes on at ibrox or if whyte is the whyte night or the black death but im not surprised that board members are leaving or being pushed.

as for fergus take a look at the archive news papers and you will see Celtic fans and the board were against his take over and he proved you all wrong i just hope whyte does the same.

Tony

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17 Oct 2011 11:05:04
Ed,
A heads up, if I may.
Any punters with a digital telly - there's a debate on Hillsborough '89 due to start at 7pm this evening. I presume you will be able to get it on the BBC's Parliamentary Channel.
Wonder if Cameron will be present ?
The Real KB
JFT 96 {Ed007's Note - Cheers KB.}

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Lets just hope the families etc get the answers they deserve. It was obvious to the outside world that there were so many things that happened that day were horribly wrong, from policing to strewarding to even the design of the stands. But this is never really admitted in political terms, Dont think the people who all called for this debate are wanting to point the blaim, they just want the truth about everything to come out to show, that in many ways it was a completley avoidable disaster and that lessons from it are never forgotten and the poor souls lost on the day are also never forgotten.

I just hope it is not some whimsical wishy washy statement transfer between backbenchers, saying " oh it was a tradgedy".. "i agree with the honerable gentleman who said it was a trdgedy" and so on till all have had their wee say and it comes to an end. I want them to say right here is all the information gathered about the disaster and its open to all to see and look into where the failings were.

I rekon Cameron will be there, just to put in the wishy washy " my condolences to the families of this disaster" etc etc etc lines as a PR stunt.

Just my tuppence worth :)

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Thanks for that mate. I just posted on the Liverpool pages, it never seems to get mentioned but the FA Cup semi final the year before was the same opponents at the same ground.
At that was when we got the Leppings End for traffic management reasons !
I was in the Leppings that day and it was congested as ****, to the point of being more than very uncomfortable.
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Well i was only 6 when all this happened but obviously have read and watched documentaries etc on that horrific day since, Some of my earliest memories as a kid at 5 or 6 were being trapped rather uncomfortably in stadia that when i think back were way too overcrowded.

There seemed to be a mentality of get as many as we can get in , like cattle on the back of a truck, and not one person who should have known what the limits were for each section etc never thought at any point oh wait a minute here something has to give!! sad sad day indeed. Thankfully a lot of changes have been made since that day, some for the better some for the worse, i still miss standing terraces as they werent always packed, like i think a lot of others do, its just the onus should be on the ground staff and police to know and have a method of keeping track of the amount of people coming into each stand and know where the cut off is.


People deserve to know everthing that went on that day, and if possible the reasons why so the bitterness and confusion can at least be somewhat put to rest.

Evinguu

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I wasn't at that '89 semi. I gave my ticket up cos I was playing myself that day. My youngest brother was in the Leppings and my dad in the seats above.
I remember being in the bar after we'd played our game and seeing that on the telly. Racing home and waiting for the phone call all evening. It was horrible mate. We were lucky though, unlike 96 other families.
The Real KB

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The Real KB, i can only imagine the feelings people in your position and the ones who werent so lucky were in on that day, wouldnt wish those sorts of feelings upon my worst enemy. And the same could be said for anyone in a similar situation around the globe when disaster rears its ugly head.

Some people pass and are forgotten in time, those souls will not be forgotten and will truly never walk alone!

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17 Oct 2011 10:25:35
A Europa League game on Thursday. Away from home. So that's another defeat on the cards and the usual hassle of going away too. Just the motivational trip we need. Europa Leagus doesn't look so appealing anymore.....just as I predicted when this court case thing started. We have more urgent business to take care of much closer to home.

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Surley it should be a releif that we will probably lose to a team that are in someways relativley decent, compared to the likes of Kilmarnock, St Johnstone etc lol

a welcome distraction in my eyes, as we are no longer expecting anything from this team anymore, maybe now that has been removed from them as they have been utterly rubbish, they may play a bit better ....


Maybe lol

Evinguu

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The tables have turned I see. How can you not expect anything from a team which boasts a £35m striker, a £15m midfielder and a £10m midfielder??

Just 9/10 months ago we were hearing how your Kayals and Hoopers etc etc could walk into any team in the EPL and in Europe.

How the sudden change of tone Timothy? Has reality finally kicked in LMAO?

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Oh how witty. Where have i personally said that we have 35mil strikers?? where have a majority of Celtic fans said this. There are the minority of idiots who cannot see through their green tinted spectacles and will make rash and stupid statements/ claims like that granted, but us realists generally know better.

that said on his day kayal especially could play quite comfortably in the EPL, but not at the moment, he is a shadow of himself, as is most of the team.

I expected more from this team than we are getting, that is why i am no longer going to expect too much(have felt this way for a while), cant be disappointed that way as we never have been world beaters. Altho some others would like us to believe otherwise.

So dear bear on the attempted windup, if you can point out where a realistic fan has changed their tone, i will take your point with some sort of merit. But if you are saying that to the fans whom think we truly have a world class team across the park then i agree they need a wake up call too and reality has finally kicked in. The signs have been here for quite a while!

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Evingu,

Trust me, I am a member of many football forums and one forum inparticular that I post quite frequently on is the Daily Record. Now, there are many Celtic fans who post on this forum, more so than Rangers fans, and believe me bud these posters actually believed they a team full of world-class players.

You may not have stated they were world-class but there was an awful lot of Timothys out there who did.

My attempt of a wind-up obviously worked a treat as you couldn't resist biting back.

The fact is though, there are players in that Celtic team who are NOT as good as the Celtic support think. Kayal, Izzagure, Hooper and Ki are all average at best players. None of whom would cope in the EPL.

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Basing this on the majority of the daily record forum, , oh what a massive bunch of knuckledraggers on there does cheer my lunchtime up to read a few pages tho. So granted i give you a majority on there will say things like that, But these guys barley know left from right never rmind a decent football player. We are dealing with mostly cretinous morons on that site who i personally would not trust to judge wether it was safe to cross a road, and once again they are a minority of the overall support that pass opinion on team matters.

Who knows maybe these minoritys add up and i am wrong! see happy to admit that lol

If these people were able to make a ssalient and coherant point they could have put that stuff better, for example it was in refrence to the time of Andy Carrols transfer for 35 mil. Saying well if he is worth that much how much is someone who has scored more goals at a poorer team over the same season worth wheres the equilibrium? and yes there are other factors i know around transfers and i know all round carrol is prob the better player ( well on the most part i dont like him as a player) but this post is turning into one of my mammoth ones that i cant be ersed going into all other factors in a players valuation.

I will not argue with you on some of your points tho, esp the players. none have shown consistantly what they can do or prove they can go up a level. Although on their day these players can play at that level,but overall they wouldnt cope.

However in what way is biting applicable to a response that was clearly worded as a response to my own post, and one where you asked questions! which i answered. yes you were trying to wind up and annoy, but surley a bite is getting an angry or downright defiant answer. i did agree with some of your points did i not? maybe my fishing book is out of date.

Maybe im missing something here. Surley when on a forum when someone asks a question its generally polite to offer your own opinion or answer to that question if it relates to something you have posted yourself?

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17 Oct 2011 09:48:50
Get Mark Wilson drafted in as centre half, partnering Mulgrew until K Wilson is back and fit. Majstorivich should be driven to the airport and never be seen at CP again. Once January comes in, spend good money on a proven CB.

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Agreed. looking at the back 4 yesterday O'Dea could have fitted in at left back or Center back

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17 Oct 2011 02:40:24
i wud jst like to ask neil lennon why on earth he loaned out efrain juarez the looke decent wen he played,he can play full back and right across the middle and at the moment hes doin great for zaragoza and mexico so WHY WHY WHY loan him out!!! what do u reckion ed? {Ed007's Note - He wasn't settled here.}

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17 Oct 2011 04:04:15
bad news bhoys but mcfadden will be resigning for everton in the next few days. everton will confirm in next 24-48hrs {Ed007's Note - How is that bad news?}

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Thats bad news for us Rangers Fans ED

Tony

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Gers fan here if anything yous have dodged a bullet and we've missed out on a laugh

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Thing is at his best Faddy is better than Jelavic or any other striker in the SPL.

Thing is is he at his best?

Can't be worse punt than freddy last year

David

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17 Oct 2011 03:29:54
what a load of bal***ks it was casual english fan's who caused the manchester riots. And if it was it makes no difference as they would have been english rangers fans . Rangers claimed over 150000 fans travelled to manchester but then the riots took place and they changed there opinion then stated that thousands of fans travelled and bought rangers tops and they where not really rangers fans and that was the one's who where fighting with the police . I for 1 personally know 6 people arrested for the riots and they are from glasgow.

Go to you tube put in rangers manchester riots and you'll see thousands of rangers fans smashing the place . don't try blaiming it on everyone else .

Rangers scotlands shame

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I was at Manchester and believe me their were rangers fans involved in the riots but there were also Chelsea fans there with rangers tops on they were easily spotted as they had the skull and cross bones on their right sleeves i am in no doubt there where other fans from other clubs just there to take part in trouble but as i said before some rangers fans where very much involved and as for your comment on search youtube well m8 if you search youtube you can find Rangers,Celtic,Man utd,Liverpool and about any other team you want to mention fans causing trouble.

just because someone buys a top and throws it on for the day dont make them fans. ask yourself this if you were content in causing trouble at football match would you try and blend in by wearing the same as the vast majority of fans or would you wear something that would make you stick out

Tony

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Ahh Tony, that explains it, you only 'support ' rangers so you dont stick out in the crowds.

Always knew you were a tim lol

Evinguu

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I was also in Manchester. Whether they were wearing Chelsea tops, the chances are they were still supporting Rangers.

The major problem was the entire set-up in Picadilly Gardens, there is no way on this earth there was a technical fault with the screen! I find it a coincidence that the screen worked fine ALL day long, only for it to cut-off exactly 5 minutes before kick-off?

Then you have the heavy handed police who literally refused Rangers fan's their exits from Picadilly to the other fanzones thus resulting in desperate Gers fans scaling the outer wall of the garden thus resulting in the police taking action.

I'm not condoning the actions of the idiots who beat-up the lone officer etc but after what happened with the screen these riots were inevitable. These riots would have happened no matter which support was there and yes, that goes for Celtic fans also........

Don't comment on what you don't know Timothy..........

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16 Oct 2011 22:39:15
Ref dont come on here slagging our fans or being a smart arse.....
Celtic ed you are supposed to set the tone on here yet you come out with this sh..e, the guy was just saying rangers fans support team better than celtic fans, then you come away with manchester, did you know it was casual english fans that caused all the trouble very few scottish gers fans involved.
anyway it was dimaloy who started argument by talking about gullible bears, of course we bears are going to protest. Fair Minded Bear WATP 4IAR
Celtic ed see if you post this I gave a name and nothing rude here will it pass your own fair play rules? {Ed003's Note - I'm covering for Ed 007 at the moment,and your claim that it was english casuals is complete tosh,I dont even know why you would make such a claim,If you were to blame bad organisation or the police I could understand to a degree(but still wrong) anyway were going over old ground now}

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16 Oct 2011 22:33:25
Just watched the highlights again from yesterday..if wee James Forrest keeps this up, Young Player Of The Year surely. The way the more 'senior' players in the team are letting us down while Forrest plays his heart out is shameful...what's going on with Kayal is anyone's guess & how he thinks a Premiership or Championship club with pay a few million for this kind of behaviour, he must be (or his agent) deluded ! - Chrissy

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