Celtic Banter Archive November 17 2017

17 Nov 2017 07:23:46
Ed do you know of any plans of offering dembele a contract extension and a hefty payrise to try hold onto him a little longer? I feel a 2 year contract extension and a payrise would leave anyone winners and put celtic in a good position and leave us with a very good chance of holding on to him beyond this season. Without an extension i wouldn't be optimistic about him being here next season.
I also feel with his current form and a good run in the europa league he could end up making the world cup squad which would make it harder to keep hold of him but at the same time his value would go up.
Any info or thoughts on this is greatly appreciated.

{Ed007's Note - I've not heard anything about Dembele being offered a new deal but I'd be surprised if the Club haven't broached the subject with Dembele and his agent.}

18 Nov 2017 13:00:06
Did he not fly out to Boston for a deal about image rites with NB or something months ago?

18 Nov 2017 13:04:09
Talking of dembele, has anyone seen wee dembele recently? There's a video doing the rounds of him showing off his ball skills but he's definitely been hitting the gym in the last year, a think he could be ready in a couple of years if his attitude is right.

17 Nov 2017 07:13:02
Ed do you think we are sticking with Gordon and De Vries for next year with big doris signing the extension yesterday?

{Ed007's Note - I bucking hope not!}

17 Nov 2017 11:45:37
It looks like it to me ed. That's both signed a new contract is it Not?

{Ed007's Note - Yep.}

17 Nov 2017 12:17:01
Thought that. I won't be getting my hopes up for a new keeper then ed.

{Ed007's Note - I won't be getting my hopes up for Europe next season either.}

17 Nov 2017 13:47:09
Calm down bhoys. If we (hopefully) bring in a new #1 in january or the summer we'll still need a back up, and DDV seems happy enough to be that whereas I couldn't imagine Gordon on the bench, did he not have the opportunity to do that with Chelsea?

{Ed007's Note - And if we don't bring in someone in January or the summer? And I'd imagine Conor Hazard will be looking for game time next season or a loan out. Is the plan maybe to integrate Hazard into the team next season?
I still say that starting season 2018/19 with Gordon as No.1 would be a disaster for us, people keep complaining about the CB situation but the GK position is in a far worse state.

17 Nov 2017 14:48:02
Gordon is a bomb scare and if we want to get better he needs replaced.
Causes panick constantly and give the ball away under no pressure constantly.

17 Nov 2017 19:13:38
I am happy enough to go with our current number 1 and 2 .
Gordon has proven by to be an excellent keeper in his three years plus with Celtic and has improved quite a lot under the influence of Woods and B Rodgers .
As Brendan said at the AGM when speaking about the Boyata, some fans on here are waiting ( and hoping ) Gordon makes a mistakes . It allows them to say I told you so .
We have created a British record of not losing a domestic game . Our 11 players on the park play as a team and everyone including Gordon does their share . Gordon has made mistakes, I have yet to watch a goalkeeper play over 200 games without making mistakes . If anyone has please tell me the name .
De Vries came last season and had a nightmare in the four or five games he played and certainly wasn't good enough for us either as main keeper or back - up . However he seems to have worked hard to regain previous ability .
Having played a friendly against Sunderland and SPL game v Dundee ( I think ) he must have shown form shown in training and appeared v good .
I am not saying we can't get better than Gordon and DeVries of course we can, but we can spend a hell of a lot of money and finish up with worse . We need to spend decent money on back four and other parts of team are to mind just as important as goalkeeper.

17 Nov 2017 19:54:19
I with you on this Chris he gets pelters on here and we won't know how good he is till he gone.
He has transformed his game under BR, he got dropped and fought his way back immediately, BR rates him Woods rates him, Strachan rates him so that's good enough for me.
Like Peter Lawwell he gets it more than others, some are never happy and don't know when we got a good thing.
He is part of 63 and counting.

17 Nov 2017 22:08:54
Got to disagree guys. His passing is shocking goes out of play or to an opposition player a lot more than to his own player.
The goal he cost again st Johnstone was a example of this.
His decision making is shocking. The constant sprinting out his box or the kungfu kick are criminal
Every time we step up to European football he looks a serious weak link and that goes as far back as inter Milan in the Europa league in Ronnys first season.
When at their best he has been nowhere near as good an boruc big Fraser or even marshal was for Celtic.
He's a decent shot stopper nothing more.

17 Nov 2017 23:45:53
Kev your right he does make mistakes mate, but you know what so does others.
I seen Courtois, Lloris, Hart, Mignolet make the very same mistakes and they all worth north of 30m, and if u go on utube u will find even the great Neuer does the same so what's your point.

18 Nov 2017 08:34:13
Not sure why you've mentioned Mignolet and Hart in the same breath as Lloris or Neuer Rayman as they don't compare. Neither does Gordon. Neymar makes mistakes, but you'd swap him for any player we have, no?

18 Nov 2017 09:26:41
Rayman Ye they guys all make mistakes but infrequently. (Except joe hart who is a dud and only the english rate him)
Gordon is making them in all the time. He is a serious weak like.
David marshal is a better keeper
Boruc at his best was miles ahead of Gordon and big Fraser is better than both.
When you said sstrachen thinks he's good enough that's good enough for you I actually laughed out loud.
Strachan thinks Barry bannan is a better choice than calmac.

18 Nov 2017 10:30:27
Kev u have actually reinforced my point mate, Joe Hart is not a dud in fact he is Englands No 1.
Englands managers/ coaches have picked him for last 5 years ahead of Forster Pickford Butland Ben Foster and others are they all duds too.
I would rather take their proffessional point of view than some random banter on here tho i will concede the Bannen point.

18 Nov 2017 13:05:05
I think a lot of keepers are the same kev, it's a generation thing maybe, a keepers job was never to play football, it's always been to stop goals till the last 10 years or so. The next lot coming through will have a much better idea of the modern keepers role cos they'll have been taught that all their days. Ad like to see hazard given a chance at some point, probably after we finally lose a game tho, if he was in goals for the first loss it could seriously damage his confidence.

18 Nov 2017 13:33:05
What has Gordon transformed then? By far the worst distribution I've ever seen in a keeper if anything his passing has got worse not better. He isn't helped with the dodgy passing of Bitton and Boyata in front of him but the 3 of them are a bomb scare passing the ball around the back.

18 Nov 2017 15:00:16
Bravetart so your comparing him to footballers now?
That tells u how his game has been transformed.

18 Nov 2017 17:42:51
His game hasn't not transformed.
He is exactly the same as he has always been.
Rayman the english don't pick the best players for their team. They do it all the time.
Hart is in because he's a media darling and has always been well over rated. There are several English keepers better than him.
Craig Gordon is a keeper with very poor distribution very poor decision making and doesn't command his area.
All three things we need in a keeper to play in champions league.

18 Nov 2017 18:30:52
Kev be careful mate from embarrassing urself. Your actually saying u know better than some of the best coaches in england and scotland including BR.
Are u sure u want to go along that line?

19 Nov 2017 00:45:49
Kev, u really don't know what you are talking about . I presume u attend most of Celtic matches and don't attend as many matches of other teams .
Therefore u can't compare Gordon to other top goalies.

19 Nov 2017 17:18:51
Go back and check out some of the howlers that Forster, Boruc and Marshall made, it isn't only Gordon that makes mistakes,