Celtic Banter Archive May 17 2012

17 May 2012 20:18:10
So Duff and Duffer want to appeal the appeal based on the argument that the transfer embargo was not a sanction available to the panel. I fully agree, so let them use the sanction that was available, THROW THEM OUT OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL>

17 May 2012 19:31:18
Hi all, regarding the rankers, i can't stop thinking that the sfa have knocked back their appeal so that they can let them away with the rest. (that way if both sets of fans are moaning, they can say "we have obviously done right" anyone else thought this?

Nonsense, if sfa find any evidence of dual contracts etc rangers will be punished, if not uefa will step in. johnbhoy79

17 May 2012 18:17:09
Okay, so this might sound a bit far fetched but Nesta and Del Piero are both free - both have been on losing sides at Parkhead before so they know what the European nights have to offer! Or more realistically Andrea Caracciolo, is 6'4" an experienced striker and out of favour at Genoa so probably quite cheap. Think we were linked to him before too.

indiebhoy

Unbelievable!

17 May 2012 16:21:45
brekkin news ed a man who took Ryanair tae court fur losin his lugguge has jist loast the case
bak tae you in the stewdios

LOLOL

lenny

17 May 2012 15:54:25
The rfff 1872 walk has spaces open! £100 to walk round ibrox then follow (follow?) walter and sandy on the final stretch round the ibrox track. With no malice at all i ask this;Whats the point?..........green jhedi {Ed007's Note - An attempt at the world record conga or follow the leader?}

Aye jedo it cood be a longur walk thin aw the longist walks evur cos they wulnae walk away n so cood be there rite up tae the point wer the bailiffs kik thum oot,
n remembur bears dont walk too faur cos the uthur walk is comin soon wer ye walk away fae the place wer ye stertit if ye no wit ah meen,
here jedo ah hope the 2 walks dont bang intae wan anuthur n case ae accidunts tae the walkurs thit didnae walk it ibrux bit walked it the walk

Here wen iz this walk cos ah cood be ther sellin ma broxy burgurs n proddy pies etc wee pat kin make ah killin

Aww bless their wee cotton socks going on a wee walk for no reason whatsoever! Why don't they tie it in with a teddy bears picnic on the pitch with broxy bear and a nice soothing green tea or 2 some sponge cake with wee union jack napkins how quintisentially british would that wee day out for them be?

Ed I don't think they will be in a good enough mood to do a conga, however it could be a world record they get to keep and claim after the club dies!!

Evinguu

Why dont they both just pay back their EBT's

davybhoy ktf

17 May 2012 14:53:58
A couple of points : will Rangers be permitted to have Tennents on their shirts next season with so many kids in their team ? And what will happen when they're away to Peterhead on a school night ? Discuss !

Naw they wull huv tae be accumpanied awe an adult,
still thats enuff aboot wee sally, aboot the undur 14's ah widnae no they kin aw buy thur aen buckie wit say you ed?
any news fae mrs e?

Ha ha i never even thought about that maybe we should get nuts or zoo to sponser us, or buckie and ten fags... put a smile on my face craig+babybear

You have given me a lot to think about Pat...I'm still considering it lol. The slave thing, are you quite demanding ? Mrs E

N the swappin thing bare in mind the last time we did ah swap ah goat a tesco trolley?

17 May 2012 13:34:24
Reading some of the stuff on Rangers Media is hilarious, they are going to
boycott any company that has a link to SFA, one of them is Wisemans Dairies so bears going to not buy MILK...
Also one bear posted "lets march on Hampden on Saturday stop team coaches getting to ground, 100k of us protesting don't want any trouble, but if Hibs/Hearts fans want some so be it...."
Another bear posted" be careful it will only take ONE TIM and it will all kick off"...
At least they have admitted it.. ONE TIM = 100k bears LOL Timalloy

Do not read that p1sh, any bear that i know is taking it on the chin if so called fans do boycott it just means a shorter wait for a bovril ..
craig+babybear

17 May 2012 12:16:01
Heard gers fan s all cancelling sky cos of sfa and getting offered discounts etc Phoned sky to cancel mine got £15 a month discount for a year He He Hail hail {Ed007's Note - I know some Rangers fans who have cancelled Sly and signed up for Virgin. I tried to tell one of them that Virgin need to pay Sly for carrying their channels, he answered 'It's still no Sly but'. No point even trying to explain it, so I left it at that.}

17 May 2012 12:08:37
So Duff and Duffer want to appeal the appeal on the strength of the argument that a transfer ban was a sanction not available to the panel. Ifully agree,and would go with one that was available, THROW THEM OUT OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL !

Are Administrators not appointed to solve problems and make impartial decisions to appease creditors and cut costs etc?
Many other clubs in Admin have had to accept they are culpable and responsible as the hard decisions are made to enable a way out of Administration and achieve means of resolving financial crisis and survival; But I think this mob Duffers'r'us are compounding their problems and costing them more money and debt?
Am I missing something?


Jungle Jim {Ed007's Note - I have said on many occasions Jim, it is the strangest administration I have ever known, in or out of football. There is still more money going out than is coming in, there must be, the player's wage cuts/deferrals probably only cover D&P's costs.}

The administrators should've gone in, cut the playing staff and reduced the contracts of the ones (I'd have suggested the saleable assets) kept on. Millions more saved than the bare minimum, and chances are - with the correct cuts - they'd still have finished 2nd comfortably so wouldn't lose revenue. Even if they didn't finish 2nd I still think they'd make more money this way. Either way a stricter approach would at least make it seem as if they're actually doing something besides spinning guff in the media. I think the fact they kept on so many players means they and Rangers knew a transfer embargo was a realistic possibility which begs the question - why waste even more money on appeals? Biggest scam in the history of footballing administration.

17 May 2012 11:25:54
Are these Bears for real? the still dont get it do they? Now saying what D&P said that the SFA didnt have the remit to impose this punishment... well i think if the bothered their arse and looked into the situation then the SFA were well within thier rights to issue punishment as they saw fit. Its in the rules and its in the guidance for punishment. Can they still not see that they are getting off lightly. If i were a Rangers fan i would just be happy it was not increased!.

My worry now is that Rangers are going to go to a court and we all know how much UEFA dislike that, This could have further consequences for us. Unlikley I know but UEFA will not be liking the noises coming out of Rangers for the next wee while. Unless of course they appeal it through UEFA themselves, surley D&P arent stupid enough to beleive all the pish being spouted by fans who have quite frankly shown in general (only very few exceptions here) that they do not have a bloody clue about what is going on and why it is going on!

A well done to the SFA for once, they have stuck to their guns and enforced a decision although a reduced punishment for the crimes of not paying Tax and bringing the game into disrepute and not abiding by numerous other rules regarding the payment of match day fees etc etc etc etc. I expected the bottle to crash, but it didnt. Now they have set a precident with one club that finally the SFA mean business and long may that continue!

Yes no-one likes being punished but sometimes is just a necessity, Not necisarily to put the knife in as some are claiming, but to give warning that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated in a sporting institution... is this so hard to comprehend?? Apparently so!

Evinguu

Evinguu

17 May 2012 02:39:18
When Celtic's on-loan players leave, and loaned-outs return, Celtic will have a squad of 39 players. We need a major clear-out, and bring in top quality. These are the players I'd cut;

GK: Forster (If he isn't 100% committed)
DF: Cha Du-Ri, Loovens, Wilson
MF: Juarez, Ki Sung Yueng, McCourt, Kayal
ST: Stokes, Rasmussen

We should get at least 15/16 million for the 9 players.

I'd say we need a new midfielder and 1 forward player, possibly a keeper if Forster leaves. I have a few suggestions;

The keeper;
Craig Gordon, but preferably: Yann Sommer from FC Basel, top keeper only 23, can't imagine he'd cost more than £3-4 million.

The midfielder;
19 year old Norwegian, Markus Henriksen from Rosenborg, massive potential! Already linked with him, he'd cost about £4 million and would be a steal, I think he'd like to come too: Fellow Norwegian Thomas Rogne, and ex-teammate Mikael Lustig.

The Striker;
This is where I think we should really do what it takes to get this player. John Guidetti. He's Swedish, only 20 years old, 6"1 and on loan at Feyenoord from Man City. He has scored 20 goals in 23 games this season. I also think he'd come- teammate Lustig and Johan Mjällby being there. I also don't think there's a chance in hell he'll get a game for City next season, ahead of Agüero? Ahead of Tévez? Ahead of Džeko? Ahead of Balotelli? No chance. Something in side tells me he could be the next Larsson. Swedish, Feyenoord? I'd say City would want about 6-8 million for him. PAY IT!

Hopeful team next season:

GK: Sommer (Or Forster if he stays)
RB: Matthews
CB: Mulgrew
CB: Rogne
LB: Izaguirre
LM: Commons (Rotation w/ Ledley)
CM: Wanyama (Rotation w/ McGeouch)
CM: Brown (Rotation w/ Henriksen)
RM: Forrest
ST: Guidetti (Number 7)
ST: Hooper (Rotation w/ Watt)

We could do something in Europe with this team.

Hail Hail,

PatrickC7

Kayal ? are you insane

Guidetti and Sommer are likely to cost in the region of £10m-£13m. Both young European talents. Guidetti's goal scoring record at Feyenoord was outstanding and Sommer's performances in Europe won't go unnoticed.

Keep dreaming though......

TTG

You'd get rid of Kayal, but keep Forrest? it was quite evident that forrest isn't quite ready for the rigours of a full season yet, and his last 8 or 9 performances were extremely poor. Kayal, if he stays clear of injury has the potential to become one of the best midfielders in britain.
and you'd also use our top scorer for 2 seasons on a rotational basis with a promising youngster??

sorry mate, can't agree with this


taco

Taco Taco Taco, behave yourself. Kayal is a decent midfielder but to think he will become one of the best in britain if he stays clear of injury is insane. He is average at best.

TTG {Ed007's Note - I know of a few EPL and continental managers/scouts who would disagree with you.}

TTG...if you can't see that Kayal is a class act, then you have serious issues. he's already one of the best midfielders in scotland, if not THE best, but if you can't see that or choose not to acknowledge it, then you clearly have no idea as to what makes a good footballer.....i bet you still think davis is brilliant? even though he's a shadow of the player he was 2 years ago.
the truth is, right now Kayal could command a fee of £7m+, and he's only going to get better


taco

Totally agree with taco. who could ever say kayal wasnt good enough and formation was all wrong there. think lenny has it with us playing 3cbs mostly with big vic playing as the one who comes out to midfield more often.

also why buy the young boy from city when 700k loan bid could swing it our way. very unlikely lenny is looking at him tho decent scoring record if right.

the yak the man for me right now out of recent rumours here but certainly wil be more mentioned

also hope gordon isnt the only option for us

17 May 2012 07:12:11
So far not 1 rangers fan or official has admitted that withholding tax payments to hmrc, hm mind you, warrants the sanctions now confirmed. It's all boycott this boycott that. They all need us.......why should we be punished ?
I think this organisation is manifestly institutionally and philosophically corrupt.

Spot on mate , they think murray and white should get all the punishment on a personal level and ignore the fact that all the dodgey dealings helped them win trophies and titles . titles that earned them millions from the champions league . yes it was murray and white but the back room boys and the board members must have known what was going on and turned a blind eye and deaf ear . so all that happened was done in the name of rangers football club , they got the benefits and now must get the punishment ..bb

17 May 2012 00:57:38
Just drove past ibrokes and could have sworn I saw Alison moyet and her band getting ready for a gig on the steps

With their mood i thought Radiohead would have been a better booking.lol

Jungle Bhoy.

Surely Leonard Cohen at ibrox ?...........green jhedi

Think we have found our next Top 10,we could do 10 acts to reflect the mood at Ibrox.We already have 3 names,any more?

Jungle Bhoy.

Alison Moyet isn't "half" the singer she used to be mate lol