Celtic Banter Archive September 16 2016

 

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16 Sep 2016 19:47:36
Been thinkin bout the new year derbies and it is an absolute disgrace the sfa has ignored the oldest glasgow derby for a game that has only been in existence for basically 2 years partick thistle are our local rivals why are we no playin them?

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16 Sep 2016 22:05:06
On the bright side Steff it's good to get an easy game and a guaranteed 3 points before the winter break.

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17 Sep 2016 16:56:28
Pathetic. Our rivals r rangers and always will be. Would have preferred new years day but jus glad it's bk. HH.

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18 Sep 2016 08:43:53
I used to love the old Firm games but since this new club was formed in don't have any feelings towards this game anymore. I prefer celtic v aberdeen or celtic v hearts games more.

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16 Sep 2016 16:06:40
Now the dust has settled. Do we trust Brendan with the way ahead. Not embarrassed. He now holds two club records. Firstly the worst defeat in our clubs history. Via a Gibraltar pub team. Second the highest scoring European defeat in our clubs history.
Yes it was Barcelona. You don't play wingers against a team that owns the ball. It's their ball don't try to attack.
No Rogic. The guy did the prematch interview and never got a game. That game hurt guys and we should not let Brendan forget it.

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16 Sep 2016 16:28:56
first competitive game in charge

remember Artimedia Bratislava 5-0

difference is we went out 4-5 then - this time we overturned the red imps game - that win will go down in their history - not ours.

there will be a few highly ranked teams beaten well by Barcelona this season

so we can let him forget 2 relatively irrelevant games - but what about league results and making it into CL and our only hope of earning serious money - job done there absolutely outweighs the other 2.

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16 Sep 2016 16:37:43
Yeh we should sack him. I think you're being a tad dramatic. Would you rather we beat Lincoln red imps then went out against hapoel so that you aren't embarrassed.

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16 Sep 2016 17:16:23
The Red Imps game was not embarrassing as we qualified to the next round, was just a minor blip along the way to CL qualification. I was far more embarrassed when we got pumped 5-0 by Artmedia Bratislava and knocked out of tournament.

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16 Sep 2016 18:02:35
I do see where you are coming from and those results are there in the record books for all to see. Personally, I am still getting over Tuesday - where usually on a Friday after a bad result, it's out of my system and I am looking forward to our next game.
Obviously we have to give him time to build his own team and the signs domestically have been very encouraging, with some of the best attacking football for a long time and plenty of goals.
However, there have been concerns in Europe all season, where we have struggled and lost goals in a good few of the games.
Signing Sinclair, Toure and Dembele have certainly improved the team and the improvement in Forrest and Brown is another plus.
The goalkeeping position still worries me though and I am disappointed we never addressed the problem properly.
I am sure the guys on here will put me right - but I don't think BR has that much CL experience himself and is probably still learning and finding his way, especially with a new squad?

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16 Sep 2016 18:20:36
Bit of a dour post julz12345, glass half empty kind of fella, why don't you maybe try and forget it and move on with the more positive among us. I think you will find a very high majority of us trust our manager. But i suppose there's always the nay sayers who always try to pour scorn over things and raise the negative. Cheer up my friend, alls more than well at our club.

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16 Sep 2016 18:22:46
Get a grip Julz. BR has invigorated our club, is playing exciting, attacking football the Celtic way. Barcelona was horrible but Rome wasn't built in a day etc. Realist tells us that the Europa, league is where we are. Let's enjoy the domestic dominance, let's go for the ten and hope we can compete in Europe whilst earning the annual decent money that it attracts.

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16 Sep 2016 19:15:23
Never heard of this OP looks like just on to sh! t stir, Rogic has fitness problems and last week flew around the world, he will probably be back on Sunday. Same thing with Lustig. Rodgers wanted to also see Gamboa play in a competitive match and to give Roberts more than 30 minutes. it is not an excuse but a reason that we faded so badly was tiredness played a big part. We suck it up and move on.

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16 Sep 2016 19:51:12
If not br then who op?

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16 Sep 2016 21:05:30
Trollers and shite stirrers seem to hog the limelight . Who are us, mostly Celtic fans, but obviously fans of other clubs who want to disturb us, put each other at odds with one and another and tell us not let B R not forget .
I will do my best to let B R remember how lucky we are to have him manage us .

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17 Sep 2016 11:04:24
Don't often agree with old Bhoy but on this post I agree. I don't think julz12345 is a troll or fan of another club she is just confused bless her!

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17 Sep 2016 20:39:52
Johnymac, she certainly speaks beyond her knowledge level.
Moaning about Rogic doing pre- match interview and not playing in match .
There is no way can she know the facts around this situation . B R may have explained to Tom before hand he wanted to do the interview, but he wouldn't play in this match . B R may have put all the English speaking players names o match in a magic hat and drawn a name out . Rogic may have picked up a slight strain after interview or a wee sickness .
Many, many more reasons but I suppose if u want to find fault do so.

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16 Sep 2016 15:28:47
Right my 2 ps worth

I think we will abandon the back 5 and be a little more expansive or at least defend further up the pitch - Barcelona deserved that respect but no one and i mean no one else should - and clearly that tactic didn't exactly work.

I disagree with the people hammering on about how bad the result was, to me it was expected - but I agree that our tactics were wrong - Barcelona don't need to play wide - they could just sublimely waltz thru our back 3 - but they could do that to most teams. 1 less at the back would have meant 1 more in midfield and perhaps that would have prevented a goal or 2.

Perhaps our back 5 with prove itself - its just wasn't tried or tested with that personnel - maybe we will see it again late on in SPL games when we are a couple of goals up.

I recon we will get beat 2/ 3/ 4-0/ 1 in Manchester tho. I am hoping for 0-0 in Germany. And then we are at home. 1 win and 1 draw from any games - ideally beat the germans, stun MC or Barcelona at the end of the campaign, already qualified put out a weakened team (dream on) .

With 5 points we should be thru to at least the EU unless the Germans pound us too or they get surprise results elsewhere.

That's our only hope - but a year on and if we are bottom of the CL group with £20mil, good team and BR or when we were bottom of the EU group with £3mil a dysfunctional team and RD - that's progress, isn't it?

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16 Sep 2016 17:43:01
Man city and Barcelona will beat Celtic and the Germans home and away. So that just leaves the Germans to deal with. We need to beat them at home and get a draw away from home. It's as simple as that. If it goes to goal difference then we will probably have a problem but as soon as the draw was made, it was obvious to everyone that we would be fighting for 3rd place. Nothing has changed. I think we will be ok.

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16 Sep 2016 18:06:03
Gemermans did qualify thru the play off round was it 9-0 on aggregate - so they are no mugs - watched the MC game and they have more than a few tall players - but we are trying to play with the ball on the deck - if we can keep possession we will do them I believe.

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16 Sep 2016 21:09:15
There is a very strong possibility that a two nil home victory against Germans and a one nil loss away against them will get us through as Barcelona and City are so much stronger than either us or the Germans . 3 points could well be enough.

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16 Sep 2016 22:03:28
It won't come down to goal difference will be head to head against the Germans.

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17 Sep 2016 10:12:10
The facts are, if every poster on this site was on the park too trying to stop them they would have still go through us.

I would have been sent off, that I do know. :)

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16 Sep 2016 13:09:25
Guys I promise this post is unsolicited from ED007 and is all my own idea.
As you know he has set up a charity page on the rumours page to raise money in memory of his late mother in law.
His target is £600 and up to time of this post it has reached £385.
Sponsored walk is on Saturday, I know money is tight with us all but if we can help reach ED007's target it would be great.
I am always pleasantly surpised by the kindness of guys on our site hail hail.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks very much for that, Tim. The page is open for a month as Alzheimer Scotland ask for the money 4 weeks after the event and the page seemed to automatically put that date of closing after I linked it to AS.
The entire family are gobsmacked and delighted by the response so far considering it's only been up for 3 days and the Mrs said her auld da had a wee tear in his eye when she showed him it yesterday. Thank you so much to those who have donated so far, God bless you.

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16 Sep 2016 14:15:29
No problems ED007 as you know I can crawl with the best of them lol.

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16 Sep 2016 17:45:19
Ed I am going on to donate now and I tell you we will raise over £600. Wait and see. Great cause Ed, well done.

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{Ed007's Note - Thanks a lot, Johnny. Oh and I'm not doing anything mate so I don't deserve any credit for it - I can't even walk to my front gate!}

17 Sep 2016 20:43:22
Magic Pole . I must disagree with u . I wouldn't want the name dirty bastards across my brow, so I would be very disappointed if u went out to play with the idea, if we can't beat them with hundreds extra playing that I would resort to dirty tactics.

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16 Sep 2016 12:49:02
So we lose to the world's best team (7-0 fair enough lol) n get slaughtered from the media yet man utd who have 1 player worth 90m and god knows how much else they've invested and get beat by feyenoord n media turn a blind eye lol funny that eh. P. s spurs also lost at home to a decent Monaco team but not a great 1.

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16 Sep 2016 14:46:09
We deserve to be slaughtered as it was our worst ever European result and I thought it was embarrassing regardless of who they had on the park. I don't know any polish but I'd guess legia got slaughtered for their beating. As for man Utd they are in a tourney they don't want to be in and hence a weakened team yes they've got a 90 million pound player but that's only because they paid it I don't think he's worth that amount but if you can write blank cheques as some can then so be it. Some Man U fans and staff might think the sooner they are out the better as all they care about is top 4 at least.

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16 Sep 2016 16:03:04
Legia got humped at home to a side that's not as good as barca. If we got done 6 nil at home to dortmund then that's embarrassing. Am not saying it wasn't a rotten score but we played arguably the best club side there's ever been. Period. !

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16 Sep 2016 19:32:43
I wish fans would stop excusing our result and admit we were pi$$ and made them look world beaters. If we want to get better we should be outing the players who failed miserably and what needs done to rectify it.

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16 Sep 2016 21:16:42
We are supposed to be Celtic fans, if we are we have a right to be realistic yet we should accept any consolation we can . Why try to look at the darkest possible view of the terrible result, but take any positive attitude we can find. We have enough doom and gloom following Celtic without having a bad result against Barcelona depress us .
I know some people on here will use Tuesday's nights result to annoy us for yrs to come but they are probably not true Celtic supporters,

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17 Sep 2016 08:44:24
the press have one mission

to sell news papers or trend on twitter next to paid ads.

they can and do tell complete lies to move their rags and boost numbers

so they will write whatever they need to in their market to do this.

If you want to flog papers to Ragers fans to take the emphasis off their own problems, get stuck into celtic. (but tbf we deserved it)

but a few days later and its business as usual over at the Asbestos Removal Services Stadium as it will be renamed when they can't pay the bill to fix it - shortened to ARS Stadium - fitting eh, joey will feel at home there.

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17 Sep 2016 09:05:45
What a load of old bull old bhoy the positive we should take is that our board and manager need to replace toure bitton and brown for starters as they are of no good anymore when we face top opposition. We have blinkered fans when it comes to certain things imagine if O'Connell and mcgregor or Armstrong had started on Tuesday people would have been criticising them as not good enough but in hindsight could they have been any worse. Why do people like yourself have to question people's support just because they can find fault and would rather address it than accept humiliating failure.

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17 Sep 2016 20:48:06
Brown was our best player on Tuesday night .
Did you watch the game Jim?

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16 Sep 2016 11:28:35
I have been reading through more of the reactions and justifiable disappointment at the Barcelona result with some advice thrown in on how we should have played it.

I think I missed the rocket to whatever planet some of the rationale comes from.

Here is how I viewed it.

Last year we were awful, weak and humiliated ourselves against the rangers.

Before a baw was kicked and before BR came in, you would need to be in line for a cuddily jaikit if you thought we would qualify for the CL.

We did.

We are playing much better, we have much to do but we are going in the right direction.

How long since we have felt that?

We are about to bag £20m plus to invest and take us another notch up. I thing BR will do that.

We avenged with interest the defeat in April. We shot down the hot air balloon that is the msm rangers pr SS Delusional.

They are fighting among themselves in the dressing room. They are calling for investment that doesn't exist. A couple of bad results and the Tragic Hat is hounded.

We got our baws parted by the best team ever. Get over it. A team that best Madrid 5.0 only managed two more against a club that last year looked so far away from being able to qualify as I did from taking over from Harry Styles in One Direction. Probably further.

We need to screw the nut and realise that in order to move up a level requires CL money and the ability this gives us in recruitment. The flip side of this is we will take a few tankings in the meantime until we move up that notch.

To expect us to stand up to Barcelona when they click into gear is nuts.

£20 odd million invested wisely will mean an ever improving team. The knowledge of that makes me realise the pain is not only worth it, but an inescapable consequence of moving into the big pond.

Let's buy bigger and better fish to deal with it.

A couple of sharks would be nice.

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16 Sep 2016 11:40:32
Excellent post magic couldn't agree more as long as we improve again in the January window with a view to next season.

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16 Sep 2016 11:47:20
That's all fair enough MP. Do you think we'll see the best part of 30m spent in jan or early next summer though?

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16 Sep 2016 12:16:50
That sum has to include any wages so I would hope about £10-15m between now and next years CL qualification.

I know where you are coming from though and
agree we always seem to await a total humiliation before the board acts as if it gives a fox.

Caley thistle, MON

THE Rangers BR

Would I be surprised if they didn't invest it in players to keep us moving forward?

I'm a celtic, of course I wouldn't.

Let's hope that with BR on board their natural inclination to go backwards is reversed.

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16 Sep 2016 12:38:06
I think you summed it up all very nicely MP with your own inimitable charm

id rather pumped with 20mil that having 24 highly paid players having a Tue/ Wed night off to watch Corrie.

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16 Sep 2016 13:19:25
Agree with OP, one question though MP, why does the £30M need to include wages?
When is the billionaire going to invest a bit of additional cash each year?

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16 Sep 2016 13:39:26
It's tough to take, but, what's harder us the feeling that we are going nowhere and accepting it.

As I said I haven't felt like this since mon. I also don't go overboard because we improve to think we should expect to out a fight up against the best team ever .

That just doesn't happen.

The test the players have is trying to prevent cricket scores off Barcelona and city and trying to outdo a good Bundesliga team.

Easier to write than achieve.

Realistically that is a big jump. But, at least we are there.

The old adage of the bigger they are the harder they fall is an extremely rare occurrence.

It's usually the bigger they are the harder they hit you.

By getting stronger with the extra cash will
Hopefully mean we might not beat them but we can throw a couple of dull yins to make them at least be rightfully wary.

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16 Sep 2016 15:30:10
Magicpole

Don't sell yourself short, one D will be on the blower before you know it.

Good post.

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16 Sep 2016 21:27:18
I decided to give it another week. If they don't call, that can't Barlow better think about asking Simon fir his old X Factor joab back.

Cant that he is.

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16 Sep 2016 21:33:14
I think that we would better become realistic and realise £20m old investment would make really very little difference, if we were to be playing a fully rested and geared up Barcalona team . Maybe £40 m each yr for 5 yrs and doubling our wage bill twice may give us a chance against them, if manager gets the correct formation and every one plays out of their skin .
It's unrealistic to think we can invest as much, so I think we can do our best beat lesser lights in Europe and forget about getting scalps like Barca.

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17 Sep 2016 08:49:15
its not simply spending and paying big wages Old Bhoy.

VDV, foster, wanyama, Ki, Hooper, et al just can't wait for agents to call and say "the team 18th in the E&WPL want you. "

we are a Massive Whale in a wee puddle and things ain't going to change any time soon.

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17 Sep 2016 10:24:34
I think we would all agree that the team is better having spent £5m, so I am confident £20m would enhance it further.

Does that take us into the top flight? No, but it moved us away from the bottom a wee but and being realistic and realising we are in the 'not a pot to piss in' section, at least we are moving in the right direction.

I haven't felt that for years. I like that.

Barcelona are a team that will annihilate teams far better than us. It clearly showed they are fitter and stronger on top of a skill gap that is as wide as the Clyde. At it's widest part.

I do wonder what their fans moan about on their boards? Different planet and for someone who loves the cut of their jib that's ok by me.

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17 Sep 2016 20:52:50
What can Celtic Football Club do Digbanger?
I agree any player whom we improve are first told my the SMSM they are too good for the SPFL
Whether that helps to make up their minds or not, players seek transfer .
No point in Celtic keeping unhappy player.

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16 Sep 2016 08:16:20
Ed quick one.
I know we are losing coefficient points at end of season.
Do you know the way we were in pot 4 and Barcelona were in pot 1, who gets most points for a win, surely they are ranking us lower so we should get more points. Also does the scoreline as in 7 reflect negatively on points.

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{Ed007's Note -The opposition and scoreline are immaterial, every team gets 2 coefficient points for a win and 1 for draw in the CL group stages and beyond.}

16 Sep 2016 09:07:08
Do the qualifying rounds give points.

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{Ed007's Note - Only if you're eliminated during them and except the Play-Off round because you go into the EL. If you qualify for the group stages you get 4 points.}

16 Sep 2016 14:51:06
It's quite the rich get richer. Barcelona qualify automatically
Celiac have to play qualifiers
(We're as some teams finish second or third in there league qualify automatically) . Then by uefas own admission as by the seeding we have to play teams that they have deemed better, and what's our reward for beating the odds the same. The champs league is a fraud how do they expect any team to evolve when it's all geared against you. The Europe league seems to be a fairer draw.

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16 Sep 2016 08:11:52
Just to point a few results out
Alkmaar 1- 1 ten MaN Dundalk
Feyenord 1-0 man united
Spurs 0- 1 Monaco
Inter 0-2 beer sheeva
Obviously these results are no reflection of were the leagues are, but they are reflectory of the determination of the players and the shewness of the manager, I think that's were we faulted the other night. Not saying that Barcelona are not far superior team, but if you take the average length that a ball is in play which is between 50 - 55mins and we had 11 percent poccession and conceived 7 goals. Which means we conceived a goal approximately every 8mins and only held on to the ball for approximately 6/ 7 mind of open play. It doesn't make good reading. I think the was a stategic plan by Rodgers which didn't work, left the players nothing to work with and gave barce something that helped them the ball. Rodgers is a good manager and us still learning, which I have total faith that this won't happen again. It will be interesting to see the team thus weekend.

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16 Sep 2016 09:06:08
None of those teams are even close to Barcelona so I've no idea what your point is.

Also 3 of those games are Europa league which is a completely diff competition.

BR was at fault, the players are also at fault but the fans who had a romantic notion of us getting anything over in Barcelona can only blame themselves. Weve not been in the CL for 3 years and don't qualify year in year out so we have no real pedigree. Barcelona on the other hand have won there group 15 times lol there is no comparison. I was really disappointed with the score but hand on heart wasn't suprised.

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16 Sep 2016 11:26:12
There is a way to play Barcelona and there is s way not to play Barcelona.

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16 Sep 2016 11:39:05
That's deep aindoh.

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16 Sep 2016 12:01:01
I wouldn't really say Rodgers was at fault it was Barcelona at Nou Camp. I thought the formation picked was what I had hoped for away in Europe. To me tiredness was a big factor. Brown was at fault the first two goals and DDV well say no more I haven't really seen him make a proper save at all yet and we all thought Gordon was bad. Said a lot before the end of the window we are too soft in the middle of the park and we needed a strong CDM or two otherwise we will get embarrassed against this group.

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16 Sep 2016 12:36:42
Spurs 0-1 Monaco? Am sure it was 2-1 Monaco lol. Pointless post anyway none r in Barcelona class.

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16 Sep 2016 12:54:27
Christ they are still at it.

quick coupla questions

1) at this stage and time do you think that celtic could possibly have / lured a better manager than BR?

2) at this stage and time do you think celtic could possibly have better players than Toure, Erik, Lustig, Brown, Sinclair, Forrest, Griffiths, Dembele?

If you answer is No to any of these - then you are deluded son, and you can go back writing posts for la la land where you expect Muriniho, Ibrahimovic, et al to join at the next window because they only have a year left on their contract and they said once they liked parkheid and ill leave you alone.

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