Celtic Banter Archive October 16 2016

 

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16 Oct 2016 19:21:18
Not Celtic Related .
However I would like an opportunity to inform fellow sports fans of the sudden and absolutely unexpected death of Munster Rugby coach at the age of 42 . Anthony Foley was in Paris preparing for Munster's European Vup match today, but he was found dead in his room this morning . like his father Brendan he has played for Shannon, Munster and Ireland and Anthony has coached Rugby at all levels . Rugby Fans from all over congregated at their Limerick grounds and gave several renderings of the
"Fields of Athenrye, even though it's a Galway and Connaught song Munster fans took it on as their anthem years ago .

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16 Oct 2016 19:39:17
Rip Anthony Foley.

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16 Oct 2016 18:12:18
Is it just me or have there been a lot of heart attacks on the field of play since they started all this sport science nonsense in the 90s. Before then you never really heard or seen that kind of thing.

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16 Oct 2016 18:30:03
Was thinking the same myself but came to a different conclusion. My thoughts are that it may be caused by doping and that it is predominantly black players who it happens to.

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16 Oct 2016 19:21:58
I think I read somewhere that during the 1980's Liverpool went through a season using only about 14 players, yet they played over 60 matches, they were obviously fit enough.
Football as a sport is not only played at weekends, if clubs want to be successful then they have to tailor their fitness regimes to playing 3 matches a week rather than 2.
I think too often now clubs are targeting the league matches on a Saturday and nothing else, In England especially, teams are giving up on the league cup and FA cup, some clubs don't even want to play in Europe as it gets in the way of league matches.
I accept that there is a lot of money involved in the English league, but I always thought the idea of a sport is to compete with each other and try to win as much as you can.
If sports science means that you can't play 3 games a week then I am against it, the Lisbon lions played lots of midweek games, they didn't keep putting weakened teams out, and they didn't have the advantage of luxury travel the way that modern players have.
The lions can tell their grandchildren about all the medals they have won and about the history they made, a lot of modern players will only be able to boast about finishing 16th in the league, it all seems a bit of a waste to me.

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16 Oct 2016 20:44:17
I am not 100% sure on this but i remember hearing that the majority of people who die from heart issue's on the field is largely due to un-diagnosed heart defect's gabby logan's younger brother died from it as have many others also remember kanu had a heart defect that was found when he was young think it was before he went to arsenal and he had it operated on allowing him to continue his career.

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16 Oct 2016 21:04:10
Its not just the number of games played that is the problem . Every game means a minimum of three days training lost . The day before the match, the day of the match and the day after . That doesn't take into account long travelling times that can interfere with training even more .
The amount of games that Celtic are playing especially pre - Christmas are really crazy and there is no way a top club like Barcelona would be asked to play them.

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16 Oct 2016 23:11:05
Think you're grasping at straws a bit, Oldbhoy, mentioning the lost training days, surely more lessons are learned and more benefit gained by playing sn actual competitive game, these are well paid (too well paid) , professionals, who are mollycoddled too much.

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17 Oct 2016 08:38:00
I just recently took part in a sport science project and a lot of professionals there were talking about how much energy drinks were now involved in my current job you get to see the effects if people can't burn the energy drink or super protein off and the results can be frightful.

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17 Oct 2016 16:54:32
Aindoh, you never complain about our defence conceding goals from set pieces, nor do u complain about us not scoring enough from our corners and set pieces . Of course you moan away about these things after watching a match on the radio .
Our manager needs more training days to work on set pieces and other aspects of the game . Playing matches builds up team spirit and team - work but British teams play far too many games compared to Spanish for example who really have a different touch than team based from these islands .
Celtic have played in front of the most spectators at home this season, not because they have the biggest attendance but we have played the most games at home .
Strang to say, I am clutching at straws and wanting players mollycoddled, plain stupid I am sure B R would expect to work the players far harder on a training day, than they would work in a match day.

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16 Oct 2016 10:25:19
Pleased to see us starting contract talks with Lustig. Another player that has had a cracking season so far. Didn't know he was only 29 - always thought he was older so still plenty of years ahead of him!

I know some people weren't impressed last year with him, is this still the the same?

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16 Oct 2016 12:02:53
Lustig plays his heart out every game. He really does love the club and is a solid player for us I hope he decides to stay.

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16 Oct 2016 17:57:01
I think lustig is a strong player for us, its just his injury problems that have been the problem.

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16 Oct 2016 17:40:15
Agree with Marco, my only concern is he is a bit injury prone and this will only get worse as he gets older.

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16 Oct 2016 22:52:09
Only Biton, Gordon and Griffiths played more games than Lustig last season and he played 44 games.

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17 Oct 2016 16:58:32
Lustig is superb at hiding his proneness to injuries . If it wasn't for some posters on here we would have forgotten about his injuries . Regular starter this season and 44 games last season, not really too bad.

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18 Oct 2016 09:35:43
Fair enough rabmac if that's true I didn't realise that, he just seems to limp off a lot 😁.

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16 Oct 2016 08:15:31
My thoughts on the disgraceful performance of the referee
Having just watched the EPL and the sending off at Arsenal, I wonder why Lasley and Moult were not red carded in our game, Lasley was not even considered a foul. Disgraceful. There was also two penalty claims with the Scott Brown claim a definate shout, you cannot jeck back like that without being pulled back. The fact that the celtic players accepted these decisions without real complaint is testomony to the realization that they will not be given.
How long are we going to accept this standard before the SFA act, The quicker video replays are introduced then these bigots will be excluded from our game. A few years ago we sent shockwaves through the Establishment when we told them this was not going to continue and we got a level playing field for a few seasons however with the "return" of servco they are returning to the same old ways.

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16 Oct 2016 11:41:30
Moult is a bit of a mad dog.

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16 Oct 2016 14:32:04
I don't foresee a time when whatever evidence is available that this evidence won't have to be viewed by human eye and if that eye is biased, bigoted or whatever the viewer will see what he wants.

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16 Oct 2016 16:20:35
There are certainly some referees who make more 'honest mistakes' than others, but to be fair, I seem to remember, we had a couple of favourable decisions in two games at the start of the season.
The standard of refereeing in Scotland is particularly poor every week and any consolation from yesterday's incompetence was that no-one was seriously injured and of course, we won the game comfortably.
I agree with OB that video evidence can also be 'inconclusive' - for example, the difference of opinion of Chris Sutton and Steven Craigan watching incident replays during games every week would prove that.

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16 Oct 2016 17:27:03
Guys we really have to move on from this.
Have we forgotten what happened at inverness already when erik should have went and they could a had a penalty (arguably outside the box) .
Dembele offside at Man City game as well, these were 2 HUGE decisions that went for us.

Any decisions yesterday had no bearing on the game, in fact I can barely remember the ref yesterday which usually means he had a good game.
Also didn't Brown get booked for putting the ball at the guys face at the throw in, didn't look serious but a ref could easily have interpreted that as a sending off.

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16 Oct 2016 18:23:01
When you watch a game on TV, try to make your judgement the moment you see an incident and then check if you got it right after you see numerous replays. This will show you how hard it is to get every decision right. Also look at referees position when incident occurs and see if he got a good view.

The only ref who I have observed consistent bad decisions going against us, is from Craig Thompson.

What I would like to say though is that referees should not be allowed to ref a match involving the team they support or that teams rivals. The reason I say that is because of something called "group bias" and even when someone tries to be impartial, they often sub-consciously favour their own group.

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16 Oct 2016 19:24:06
Did anyone see the penalty given by Deane today, The Rangers are the only team in Scotland that would get one as soft.

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16 Oct 2016 18:47:07
Talking of bad decisions the ref in the Southampton burnley game failed to see a pen when big virgil brought down the burnley player and he was looking straight at it and these guys are full time.

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17 Oct 2016 20:18:51
All well n good rab, but how many impartial people are there in scotland never mind refs. If your getting at foreign refs u might be onto something but unless clubs are willing to stump up some cash it won't happen. The sfa will never admit their refs are crap.

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