Celtic Banter Archive October 16 2015

16 Oct 2015 22:16:59
Aberdeen bottled it again! I actually want competition but we will win the league easily again.

16 Oct 2015 23:49:01
Early days yet and we have still to hit top form but they seem to have had an adverse effect from their victory over us? Motherwell, with a new manager - will be up for our visit, all the same; and I will wait and see what Celtic team turns up at Fir Park tomorrow - but hopefully we'll take advantage.

17 Oct 2015 11:22:41
I got slaughtered when I said everyone's over reacting to Aberdeen's title challenge, Looks like it was an over reaction.

17 Oct 2015 11:24:35
morning guys just back fi Tenerife can't make football so anyone got good link for today? cheers tfb.

17 Oct 2015 11:52:40
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16 Oct 2015 01:10:04
Question to 1 and all. If we were to find the striker we crave would RD still find a place for Leigh Griffiths?

16 Oct 2015 09:08:21
You need different options up front, at the moment we don't have any. A big club should have 4 strikers, - you want 2 on the bench to change things, and you also get suspensions/injuries. Griffiths has done well in the lone striker role, better than I thought he would, and some of the headers he has scored for us have been as good as you'll see, I still feel though that if we had someone who was more powerful, hold the ball up and bully defenders it would help the 3 playing off him do better. It's not just about the striker when you're playing a 4231. - the 3 behind should be aiming for double figures as well. Last year Johansen done it, and look at the difference it made, Commons scores, but Forrest/GMS/Armstrong have to score more. The Croation/Danish lad playing in Bundesliga 2 sounds interesting, if clubs like Bremen fancy him he must be highly rated!

16 Oct 2015 09:21:38
No I think RD is chomping at the bit to drop LG he just has not got a suitable replacement he dropped him every opportunity he got last year especially in the European games

16 Oct 2015 10:35:07
Ditto to Delphic and Wee1888

16 Oct 2015 18:03:09
Delphic is correct, playing 4-2-3-1 needs a striker who can hold the ball up and bring the 3 playing behind him into the game. It's the only way the system works. So why are we playing that system when we don't have the striker we need to make it work? Last season when Ronnie arrived I saw us against Dundee Unt when we won 6-1. Stokes played that role and we were superb, best I have ever seen us play since RD came. Now Stokes got pushed to left side and now can't get a game at all. Ronnie still wants to play this system and no one apart from Stokes can lay that position. Why are we playing it?

16 Oct 2015 18:32:42
Johnny it's the age old, should a manager pick players for a system, or a system for his players. RD has a vision which involves the same set up, domestically and in Europe. Which is good. And personally 4-2-3-1 is my favourite set up. Although I agree we're lacking specific player types (and quality), by sticking to his system at least the players who do match it can get used to it. He's only been in the job just over a year. He is trying to change things. Through time and constraints against him from the club, he hasn't got his jigsaw together yet. It's more about getting rid of players actually now than getting them in. Hopefully he can get relative success from the pieces he does have and force the board to act on their part of the relationship and get him the players HE needs and that HE wants, with the quality WE deserve. I just don't know what people calling for his head are comparing him to. It can't be our last manager because RD at this stage is doing just as good, possibly better, depending whether you look at the facts or not. Keep the faith bhoys, trust me.

16 Oct 2015 22:46:35
I think Deila like every other manager will always play the players who will do the best job for him. If Leigh continues to score goals Deila will continue topic him it's as simple as that. Deila may or may not be a fan of Celtic but most Celtic fans want Celtiic to win every game and you can be sure Deila does too.

16 Oct 2015 22:56:03
Jim Tim and everyone, the first point is there is no point whatsoever in talking about the board giving any manager more money to spend. Last year we made a £4mill loss. So how much do we expect to lose to bring in what you are asking for. Is it another £5 mill or more? I know the argument which is spend more money and qualify for CL. Our failure to qualify for CL was not lack of investment. We were awful against an average Malmo team who cost under £2mill to assemble an entire team! It was bad play and bad management. If anyone needed any confirmation about Ronnie being an average manager then that game was it. So the sooner we all stop talking about Ronnie will be brilliant as long as we back him with better players is a silly argument as he is not going to get any more cash. Mow he knew the score when he came in. He is playing a system that needs a different striker that he has not got it is unlikely to get. Judge him on where he is today. It's not going to get any better.

17 Oct 2015 01:06:31
Jimtim, there's no age old adage, you can only play the players you have, if those players don't suit the stystem, you have to change the system, you have to manage the team, use the players you have to the best of their abilities, use the system that best suits the players not the other way round, that's where Ronny is going wrong.

{Ed007's Note - Why can't the players we have improve and learn to play the system, Bitton and Griffiths have came on leaps and bounds so why can't others? Most of the younger player's are kicking on and youth players knocking on the first team squad door, it's the older stuck in a rut players that are struggling.
Players inability to adapt really just shows up their lack of ability, do you think players will look at a possible transfer and think 'Oh I don't like that they play 4-2-3-1, I can't play in that formation.' We have that many internationally capped players I sometimes wonder how they manage taking instructions from another manager on how he wants them to play the game.
I remember Chris Sutton playing at CB, imagine if RD had done that!}

17 Oct 2015 01:10:10
Don't think the figures you read include the VVD money JM.

17 Oct 2015 19:29:41
Jim Tim the accounts are only to June 2015 so the VVD money is not there right enough but neither will be any write downs from players we have lost money on.