Celtic Banter Archive March 16 2016

16 Mar 2016 23:26:23
Stokesy finally came good for Hibs tonight, my opinion is that he is better than Scepovic, Ciftci, Cole or Kazim-Richards who were signed to replace him .

16 Mar 2016 23:35:53
Playing well in one game although good to see, doesn't mean he has turned an angle.

16 Mar 2016 23:44:32
Playing well 1 game in every 10 is exactly why he's not at Celtic.

17 Mar 2016 01:01:46
Playing well in 1 game in 10 is still better than the rest lol.

17 Mar 2016 01:11:33
Good point Rayman. That said if take scep over Cole ckr and nadir every day of the week.

17 Mar 2016 07:55:36
Scepovic is a strange one tbh. He scored most of the time when he played but it seems his heart just wasn't in it at all after his move to Levante fell through. Ciftci, I feel has something about him but only ever shows it in glimpses ie his goal this week was great but he always tries his best. If you could get that attitude to rub off on Scepovic then we'd have a serious player on our hands but I can't see it, he'll be off in the summer.

17 Mar 2016 10:44:02
Kevbhoy . scepovic scored 4 in 19 for us and now 4 in 19 for Getafe . the guy is below average and that's being kind . apart from Griffiths and hooper stokes is better than all the other strikers signed or loaned since himself . stokes is ok at spl level as back up nothing more . but still better than scepovic ckr cole.

17 Mar 2016 11:14:15
That's an unfair statistic DRB because a lot of the time he was coming on for 10 minutes and not really getting the chance to get into the game.

17 Mar 2016 12:10:43
As well as which, until last night Stokes had 2 in 11 (approx) for Hibs - which is not only on its way to 4 in 19, it's statistically worse. Even including last nights goals, if he has the same type of form he showed after scoring two on the bounce for Hibs, you're looking at 4 in 24.

Stats and all that 😀.

17 Mar 2016 13:15:35
Have any of you watched him play for hibs? I've been watching the games to keep an eye on henderson and though he has been well. I haven't seen anything from stokes that makes me want him back in the team.

17 Mar 2016 13:34:42
Agreed. He's actually made JC worse.

17 Mar 2016 14:46:23
If it's about stats he's 1 goal in every 3 games at hibs which is what stokes usually is as a striker and there are many players who would love to have those stats (Cole Richards scepovic ) and he hadn't played for 6 months so wasn't match sharp. Asfor making Cummings worse was he ever that good? It is 2nd division after all.

17 Mar 2016 15:22:52
Kevbhoy maybe so . but it's the same at every club he's been at . he's had one good season with 23 goals then signed with us nowits back to his norm of low scoring . he's 26 had 12 clubs and as I said one good season . the boy is an average player pp I never mentioned stokes stats just the fact imo he's better than the other duffers we've brought in . on stats his average with us is one in 2.5 career one in 2.6 . scepovic is one in every 3 career. so take one of these👊 ☺✌.

17 Mar 2016 16:49:22
Stats aside as a footballer I think he has ability and has scored some great goals but he has to be at his very best before I'd start him. I think his best is behind him now though. He even looks like he has lost a yard when he wasn't the quickest to start with. Comparing him with what we have/ had is p*ssing in the wind. It's been that bad striker wise for years that we are debating the best of a bad bunch! Broken record but the lack of quality is astounding.

17 Mar 2016 19:08:37
At least there is one thing agreeable, all our strikers apart from Leigh Grifgiths are considered to be pure S&£&e.

17 Mar 2016 21:41:02
At a big ambitious club like Celtic a player can't have the luxury of nine games and not showing an interest and then scoring a goal or two in the next . The pressure at Celtic is to get results in every match . L G is an example of the striker we want and we have done well to have him, and more important to have him in the right frame of mind to score or create in nearly every match .
Believe it or not we have fans who think we should have better than L G .
Leigh, compared to the rest of our first team players is brilliant, if we look at many of the top teams in EPL, brought together by spending hundreds of millions, not many of them have strikers scoring as regularly as LG.

17 Mar 2016 21:56:56
Old Bhoy bang on the money, thought Stokes was a decent player but his lack of interest in games was shocking. LG has came in, got hs head down and has been one of two star performers this season. Probably explains the difference between the two (Griffiths and Stokes) , Stokes had bags of talent and spent time at Arsenal probably coasted through his development years. Griffiths has worked hard since starting out, learned he was a bit off the pace and Wolves and strived to improve whilst Stokes just continued his coasting.

18 Mar 2016 01:07:10
The attitude and belief in manager is as important as natural ability .

18 Mar 2016 08:55:44
Gary Hooper was very often guilty of disappearing for 2/ 3 weeks at a time but he go away with it because he would follow it up with 6 or 7 goals in just a few games afterwards. I much prefer Griffiths scoring more regularly because without that we'd have been in trouble this season.

16 Mar 2016 20:12:19
SNSM, and SFA/ SFL, will be happy with Prospective managers' posts. Support the team And manager And board And the history. The flak should be directed at what happened and is happening regarding tax evasion. The other side are actually talking about who they will buy in the close season when they have no money and likely new manager as funds will not be available to pay bonuses! 😞 all the issues that have been uncovered in football in Scotland are only just being raised. HH.

17 Mar 2016 08:20:59
Some of the players need to look themselves in the mirror and realise that they need to show more commitment and desire. Over the last couple of months I have been dismayed at how bad some players have been performing. They are not closing down and tracking back and they are not making runs off the ball. In fact I have seen some players deliberately take up bad positions so they can't receive the ball. Now if I can see that, then surely the manager can to and he has to either get them sorted or stop playing them.

With regards to the board, Lawwell can do one as he is failing the fans in many ways:

1. He sells our best players every season.
2. He has tried to marginalise a section of our support by getting other fans to turn on them.
3. He is not challenging the SFA over the Lord Nimmo Smith investigation and how they treated the small tax case the same as the big tax case. In addition he is not pursuing the SFA over resolution 12 and Rangers UEFA license. Bring back McCann, at least he had the balls to challenge the authorities and defend Celtic.

17 Mar 2016 12:11:27
Good points Rab.

17 Mar 2016 12:44:29
That's because like most of our mps, smps, councillors and big business owners, they don't give a shit about there constituents, customers or in our case, what the fans think, they only think about lining their own and there paymasters pockets.

{Ed007's Note - Have you told the Club how you feel and if not why not? All it takes is an e-mail to JP Taylor and suddenly you've became yet another supporter complaining about the way the Club is being ran.
He's getting loads of e-mails everyday from people questioning the Club's stance regarding Res 12 for a start, why not take 5 minutes out of your day to tell the Club how YOU feel?}

17 Mar 2016 17:12:45
I have ed and would encourage more fans to do so at, jptaylor@celticfc. co. uk, but do you think it will make any difference ed? I suppose if we make enough noise someone might listen.

{Ed007's Note - It's better than sitting doing nothing mate and the guys that are dealing with the Res 12 stuff have asked supporters to let the club know their feelings. I won't be renewing my 2 season tickets and will be closing down my Pools agency I've had for 23 years at the end of the season.}

17 Mar 2016 18:03:47
That's a shame 😞 folk like you are the lifeblood of the club, I used to do the Celtic pools with the wee woman I stayed down the road from, every week gave her my three pounds never got anything back, didn't care as the money was going to Celtic, then one week she comes up casual as you like " oh by the way you won last week, here is a check for 1600 ponds " 😁 , can I ask, you know we don't see eye to eye on Ronnie's ability, and you seem quite happy with him as manager, what would it take for you to change your mind?

{Ed007's Note - For the Club to grow a pair of balls, start listening to the support and backing them over important issues. We've been fined for a 'F*CK UEFA' banner and some pyro yet Man Utd fans can openly sing about Liverpool fans being murderers and Liverpool fans can set off flares/smokebombs during games and there's nothing done, and that's only from a game a week ago, how many other matches is there banners and pyro getting let off?
Don't forget that the Club were instrumental in the introduction of the Offensive Behaviout at Football Act which is a (swear) joke. There's young lads from clubs like Hamilton and Motherwell getting their doors kicked in at 6 am and using CCTV footage in joke trials that end up getting thrown out while thousands can stand in Hampden and Ibrox and openly sing about being upto their knees in Fenian blood and nothing gets done.
The board have bottled the whole Rangers/Sevco situation because of the threats of violence, intimidation and social unrest - it's all complete bollocks and the CFC that stands today is nothing like the club I grew up supporting. Do you think Fergus McCann would have lay down and accepted being cheated?}

17 Mar 2016 19:15:37
I know exactly what your saying, and no Fergus I can't imagine would have rolled over and had his belly rubbed. Is it only Celtic you are disillusioned with or the way football is in general? I remember posting before the season started about how qualifying for the cl did not bother me, as it seems to be just a money making exercise for all the teams other than the 7-8 elite clubs who can actually win it and I was shouted down, but I have hardly watched any of it this season ( though I must confess I did enjoy the Bayern / juve game last night ) and I can only foresee it getting worse .

17 Mar 2016 19:38:48
Given how Fergus pursued Jim Farry during that whole sorry affair, I would have LOVED to see how he would have dealt with the last 4/ 5 years.

17 Mar 2016 21:55:32
E-mailing J P Taylor may or may not influence the board and set in motion steps to redress the Rangers walking away with their bad practices
Discussing on fan forums won't achieve anything.

16 Mar 2016 16:39:37
Moyes wae his stupid talk is no better than jakey goram who said we scared of the wee team from govan anyway as long as we win the title this year i want ronny to stay at least one more season his ideas were never going to happen in first or second season and i think if he doesn't do much next season then fair enough he should go what am sick of is failures who knock our team then want a job moyes pal your no good enough! As for the lennon lovers he walked oot and failed elsewhere no way should we even consider asking him back he was never that good a manager anyway.

16 Mar 2016 19:00:52
I thought you were going to post Moyes is stupid .
Well he must be, or he wouldn't think he would be considered for the Celtic job .11 years an unsuccessful manager of Everton followed by two short stints which both ended in the sack . Does he think the Celtic Supporters were so excited by his short unremarkable playing career that they would want him despite his managerial failings.

16 Mar 2016 19:11:52
What's more stupid, is those that want Lennon back ( why is totally beyond me ) or those calling for Stubbs

Neither is acceptable. An older head is needed to stabilise this club. Who, I don't know.

RD will get another year, I can't see Lawell doing anything in the summer apart from further declining the little quality we have left in the squad.

17 Mar 2016 22:06:53
Kev T I was a great supporter of N Lennon when he was a player and a manager, but I certainly don't want him back as a manager and I cannot see any other role for him .
I agree with Kev T Ronny should get another year . Despite struggling from time to time this season I think he has built quite a good young squad on a shoe string . I also think that we are no longer building up individual players to sell and really weaken the team . I think next season could be a lot better and I worry if we change manager we may undo the building he is doing .

16 Mar 2016 13:22:37
The board has been handed a wakeup call with moyes public statements . hopefully they will listen. Could this know give ronnie a leverage to demand what he thinks is needed to further the club . on an aside the pinion ion of many of ronnie is tgat he is a yes man and park and lawell pick the players I was thinking has ronnie made his stand with Allen as most people on here are all calling for game time for him but he only gets bit parts so far heard anything ed?

{Ed007's Note - There's no conspiracy, Scott Allan is simply not good enough and RD told Lawwell and Park that before he was signed.}

16 Mar 2016 13:42:05
"RD told Lawwell and Park that before he was signed" There's another little gem. As if the Elyounoussi/ CKR dealing wasn't bad enough. PL and JP are no good.

{Ed007's Note - CKR is another one of Dudu Dahan's clients. He had been suspended by Feyenoord for threatening to beat up a journalist and needed to get out of Holland PDQ, all it took was one phone call from Dahan to his friends at CP to put the wheels in motion for the move to happen.}

16 Mar 2016 14:51:59
It's a shambles. I don't mind a head coach not having the full say, but when you look at the alternatives it's all wrong. The CKR instead of Elyounoussi thing really p*ssed me off. As for Allan, when it was mentioned a couple weeks back RD being pressurised to play certain players, I had a gut feeling one was Allan, albeit from the bench. No way would a manager come in from another country and after one full season sign a player from the Scottish Championship.

16 Mar 2016 14:53:04
I agree with the OP too btw, but what Moyes has said isn't anything I didn't already think anyway.

16 Mar 2016 14:51:10
It's a shambles. I don't mind a head coach not having the full say, but when you look at the alternatives it's all wrong. The CKR instead of Elyounoussi thing really p*ssed me off. As for Allan, when it was mentioned a couple weeks back RD being pressurised to play certain players, I had a gut feeling one was Allan, albeit from the bench. No way would a manager come in from another country and after one full season sign a player from the Scottish Championship.

{Ed007's Note - Exactly. Don't forget that we're also meant to believe that after only being here 5/6 months he decided to sign GMS and Armstrong from a team we beat 6-1 in his early days here, I doubt they caught his eye during that game let alone it hardly fits in with RD's meticulous approach to everything does it?
The majority of the players who have been brought in would have been brought in regardless of who the manager was.}

16 Mar 2016 14:51:10
It's a shambles. I don't mind a head coach not having the full say, but when you look at the alternatives it's all wrong. The CKR instead of Elyounoussi thing really p*ssed me off. As for Allan, when it was mentioned a couple weeks back RD being pressurised to play certain players, I had a gut feeling one was Allan, albeit from the bench. No way would a manager come in from another country and after one full season sign a player from the Scottish Championship.

{Ed007's Note - Exactly. Don't forget that we're also meant to believe that after only being here 5/6 months he decided to sign GMS and Armstrong from a team we beat 6-1 in his early days here, I doubt they caught his eye during that game let alone it hardly fits in with RD's meticulous approach to everything does it?
The majority of the players who have been brought in would have been brought in regardless of who the manager was.}

16 Mar 2016 15:39:07
JimTim expect worse to come. The persistent failings in strikers we have seen, get worse and worse. We have not 1 decent striker to give Griffiths a challenge or is suitable back up. Carlton Cole done it for me.

16 Mar 2016 15:43:51
Or that too Ed! Great point big man.

16 Mar 2016 18:55:41
While I don't think Allan will make it at Celtic, the transfer fee was worth it just to laugh at the blue side of the city.

{Ed007's Note - They'd have built their team around and he'd have been hero worshipped as 'one of their own' (wink) yet he's lucky if he makes our bench - that right there is the difference between the Premiership and the Championship.}

16 Mar 2016 20:22:29
The murmurings from the SMSM and a section of our fans are both designed to make life impossible for R D . The naivity of our fans in thinking if R D goes our problems will disappear with him is bordering on ridiculous. The like of Moyes is stupid enough to think if he was manager our board would magically come up with a transfer bounty that would mean we can buy our way to success . The SMSM's sole interest in R D is to get him removed so that Celtic would be back in disarray, and the Rangers 2012 would start next season closer to Celtic, than if we had a manager in his third year .

16 Mar 2016 21:51:09
I think we will have to give Ronnie a third year, to convince one half of the support, by his performance, that he is realy a good manager or to convince the other half, that he really does'nt know what he is doing, one way or the other, a third year for Ronnie is the only way to sort it out.

17 Mar 2016 22:19:02
I don't think a club with Celtic's transfer budget is likely to have a striker who is going to put pressure on a 40 goal a season striker . We have done well to create the striker L G is . When he joined us he was a bit of a hit and miss striker, I think despite many fan's misgivings R D has done a marvellous job with Leigh.

16 Mar 2016 05:42:10
Yesterday Min stopped me getting my Lucky 15 up but 3 winners at Cheltenham (albeit small odds) is not to be sniffed at
My bets for day 2 are Rock the Kasbah 2.30 and Felix Younger 3.35 both about 10/ 1
Also keepfollowing ED023 as he had a 10/ 1 winner in the last race.

16 Mar 2016 07:50:37
Tim do u have a lucky 15 on for today?

16 Mar 2016 09:44:31
Snap Tim min stopped my lucky 15 yesterday had a decent acc going too with the lucky 15. I had ballytoun in the last @12/ 1 so ended up in profit. I'm going with yanmouth and more of that today sticking yesterday's profit on the double.

16 Mar 2016 09:53:51
Don't usually bet on the horses but thought I'd break the bank with a £1 e/ w on your 2 for today Tim. Got 12/ 1 and 16/ 1 so might get to book that cruise yet 😜.

{Ed023's Note - Lads, can I suggest ye pop over to the horse racing page? It gives me a better chance then to interact with anyone having a punt? http://footballrumoursbets.co.uk/horse-racing-tips.php}