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16 Feb 2019 21:46:03
When will Rogic be back?
16 Feb 2019 23:17:09
Who's Rogic?
17 Feb 2019 08:03:48
When he's fit.
17 Feb 2019 09:55:38
Sick note.
17 Feb 2019 11:02:00
When australia say so.
17 Feb 2019 14:50:03
When there is more space on the bench.
16 Feb 2019 21:39:09
Yes we got beat by Valencia but could people stop wetting there pants they are far supieror to us. Tv money makes these teams we just should enjoy our sucesss domestically . give me a treble over Europe getting battered any day .
16 Feb 2019 22:08:32
Valencia had worse revenue than us over the last few years though.
They maybe have more guaranteed income so can afford more debt
But we are not as poor as people make out.
16 Feb 2019 22:19:33
They aren't / wernt vastly superior than us . they are an ok / decent team nothing more.
16 Feb 2019 22:42:30
That's like saying The rangers are far superior to us because they beat us, idiotic statement,
16 Feb 2019 23:27:42
Far superior is a bit exaggerated; Yes, they are in a stronger league and have some more expensive players, however, we all-but beat ourselves with far too many daft mistakes, poor decisions from experienced players and a nervousness that has cost us many times.
Having a make-shift back line obviously didn't help on Thursday.
I concede that Europe is a step too far for a few of our current team, but I think we have every right to be there competing - like we did in the recent past - getting results and can do again, hopefully with better personnel in these problem defensive positions.
17 Feb 2019 08:01:38
Nothing idiotic about it aindoh. as a club some fans need to reliase we can't compete with teams from top leagues in Europe when we spend 1-2million on players and have a wage cap that is lower than they pay there 17-18 year olds that have never even played a 1st team game. yes we can get the odd result just like teams do with us in the league but the odd result doesn't get you far in the long run.
17 Feb 2019 10:43:42
Mcg people aren't being unrealistic at all. Our revenue was in the top 14 sides in the Europa League knockouts. We are not as poor as people make out. We have simply chosen to spend the way we do.
Also teams like Ajax in similar positions got to the Europa League final and now last 16 CL in recent years.
Aye we can't compete with the likes of PSG but regardless of their spend we should be capable of giving the likes of Valencia or Zenit a proper game.
Nobody is saying we have a right to beat them but how far behind we are from them is inexcusable tbh.
17 Feb 2019 10:37:51
One word for u mcg88, and that’s SALZBURG. a perfect example of what a team can be without spending obscene amounts of money on transfers and wages! Yes we would love to have money to spend, but nobody will ever convince me that we shouldn’t be competing better than we are rite now! Especially at home!
Spending loads of money shouldn’t make a difference to the players we’ve got right now being able to pass the ball 10 yards under absolutely no pressure! There’s a fear factor in our squad when we step up, and no real belief that we belong at that level! And I’m sorry to say it, but it just seems to be getting worse!
17 Feb 2019 12:19:28
Or Getafe. Getafe are 5th in La Liga, with a wage bill of £25m. They are above Valencia whose wage bill is £100m. above them over 25 games or something, not 1 gane. Not looking at transfer fees or anything, but Getafe wage bill would suggest they haven't spent big bucks on many players. They either have a great scouting system or a fantastic youth development policy. Our wage bill and squad investment is high- calibre of players doesn't reflect this. Suggest we are fishing in the wrong pools transfer wise, unless we are happy to get players loaned to us 6 months who we could never afford.
17 Feb 2019 12:37:43
Lh88 two words you forgot before Salzburg is red bull a huge cooperation who have had some dodgy dealings between there clubs over the years. Then you have the work permit/ visa ruling which is made a hell of a lot easier for them as is for clubs like Porto. Tottally agree with you about fear factor as soon as first mistake is made the rest of the team seem to get the fear.
17 Feb 2019 13:30:01
just remember guys, our neighbors across the city spent millions of money they didn't have chasing europe. let's get 10 in the bag then concentrate on europe.
17 Feb 2019 13:46:49
Well said robroy we would all love a Euro adventure but that is out of our budget now. As you say let's get the ten make history . Europe especially the champions league is going to get harder every year. this year 26 automatically qualified leaving 6 places for a hundred and on teams to play for. the quicker they make it a closed shop the better.
16 Feb 2019 20:50:04
Alright ed is it safe to come back on site again yet 😂🍀.
{Ed007's Note - Nah man, go back under the bed and let them get on with it until tomorrow.}
17 Feb 2019 14:49:15
Welshyboy nothing is safe when mcg88 is on the go.
16 Feb 2019 16:36:02
With a failed 7million bid for Pannuci last season and a failed 8 or 9 million bid for Castagne in January I would have to say the club are trying to do all they can to improve the the quality of player at the club, I'm also sure that at the end of the season when the few who are out of contract have moved on steps will be taken to improve the squad.
16 Feb 2019 17:13:59
Absolutely correct royjac, we're in the position at the moment we need to lessen the wage bill before we can add to it again. I'm sure we will spend relatively big on a right back and a centre half come the summer. To better other positions the price tag would be massive and that is if we can attract this type of player to Scotland. People tend to forget we have 9 or 10 very very good players already at the club with a value in the current market of probably around 80 million.
16 Feb 2019 17:30:15
Some people expect miracles though Stevie haha.
16 Feb 2019 18:39:09
It's persuading these types of player to come to a one horse footballing backwater that's the stumbling block Royjac but some on here can't seem to grasp that.
P.S. I wonder if we'll hear from Telsa and Daftabet after Sevco's result? 😂😂
16 Feb 2019 18:10:10
Miracles? 3 years to sign a couple of CBs hahahaha
Aye that's expecting miracles lol.
16 Feb 2019 18:34:03
Great post and a reminder that we are trying to improve the squad any way we can - within the financial restraints of the club, the location and low-ranked league we play in.
16 Feb 2019 19:11:44
Guys don’t reply to Tesla it doesn’t matter what you say he won’t agree with you, only last week he said we had £50 m In the bank only for the club a couple of days ago saying they. had £39m. oldkilly.
16 Feb 2019 23:28:19
Be haters all you like with my comments. Everything i am saying is true.
I pay my season ticket money, I'm entitled to my opinion.
We needed a CB for 3 seasons and our solution was Jack Hendry.
Are you seriously happy with they attempts?
17 Feb 2019 10:38:02
So you want to stockpile CB's?
Correct me if I am wrong but we have 4, one who has moved from midfield to CB, one who I'd a midfielder that can play at the back and one on Loan. So in all we have 7 guy's that can play CB and you want more? Lol
Ok so Commper and Hendry haven't worked out and the Boyata situation hasn't worked out either, do you honestly think the club won't try and bring decent replacements in?
16 Feb 2019 12:39:45
Following the the fallout regarding the recent disciplinary procedure and demands of certain journalists and clubs for the need to improve the system, I would like to comment on cases this season. In the first game of the current season, Morelos red carded, rescinded, Gerrard's Referees have been against us for years comment no action Morelos assaults at ibrox no action, Gerrard's condemnation of Collum at Love Street no action, and his attack on St Clarke no action, and yet no mention of the compliance officer and her husband being Celtic fans. Now when she does her job and bans McGregor and Morelos she should be sacked because of her and her husbands alleged supporting of Celtic. We now have Gary Ralston who I am led to believe suggested cutting Celtic 's allocation at ibrox wanting to know why Tom Boyd and Celtic cited for his comments regarding referees and for Celtic giving him the platform via Celtic tv to express his opinion on referees. Please tell me am I paranoid certain people that I put the above points to think I am I'm sure at least one poster will, guess who. oldkilly.
17 Feb 2019 01:58:45
Your paranoid.
17 Feb 2019 10:26:29
Thanks Jazz, i’ll Make an appointment with my GP. oldkilly.
16 Feb 2019 08:51:25
Looking at our starting XI against Valencia. Ask which players you see as long term solutions in their positions
Bain - No
Toljan - No
Boyata -No
Simunovic - No
Izzy - No
Brown - No
McGregor - Yes
Christie - Potential, yes
Forrest - Yes
Sinclair - Yes
Burke - Not our player
Bench or injured key guys
Benkovic - not our player
Tierney - Yes
Lustig - No
Eddie - Yes but needs big improvements
Gordon - No
Ajer - potential
Ntcham - Yes
So really you see the huge rebuilding task we have here. Cos even the players who are part of future, many are still very much learning.
Only about 3 or 4 players would you say are ready
Even then their is inconsistencies like Sinclair when his confidence drops
Forrest can be hot and cold
Ntcham similar to Forrest.
Having better players around these guys will bring their game on and help the young ones develop.
Raise the standard, push the bar higher and it helps us develop better projects also.
16 Feb 2019 12:25:50
Toljan has chance of staying, if not we sign someone else.
Yes we need 1-2 CBs but rest of the team is more than good enough to dominate domestically for the forseable future.
16 Feb 2019 14:14:07
Domestically we could sign nobody and dominate.
We should be aiming higher than domestic.
16 Feb 2019 14:29:48
Tesla can I ask what Bain has done wrong for you to consider him not a long term answer?
16 Feb 2019 15:16:43
I think Bain has done ok, I just think we can get better that's all.
16 Feb 2019 15:46:26
Tesla plays too much Fifa on his PlayStation, in his fantasy world he thinks we should be spending 10's of millions on transfer fees and adding another 20 million to our 60 million wage bill.
16 Feb 2019 16:02:37
Literally said none of that Stevie.
Unless u are suggesting Bain is the absolute best keeper we can attract?
16 Feb 2019 17:41:09
Have to say tesla369 l think you are a bit harsh on Bain and toljan who has only played 3 games or so.
Yes a lot of the players struggle at that level but Celtic have tried to sign players but they went elsewhere. And secondly where is the money going to come from to replace the players that need to be replaced to compete at that level.
It's mainly loan players as the costs are too high for Celtic to compete with wages and transfer fees. Remember the club record transfer is 9 million. They brought on a sub who Was 40 million. The problem with times gone by is that those league have more and more money with tv etc now and celtic simply can't compete financially with them which unfortunately is reflected on the pitch.
16 Feb 2019 18:16:04
They also had a worse revenue than us over the last few years
We are also owned by billionaires. One even twice as rich as Desmond amongst the shareholders.
Difference is that some people's owners want to back their club, while ours just want to earn from it.
Don't give one F about their £40 mil midfielder, they are not a world class side and neither were Zenit.
BATE have spent £11 mil their entire history and beat Arsenal.
Our attitude is totally defeatist. "We can't compete. " Well don't bother turning up then.
The mentality of our fans is as soft as the mentality of our players.
Bertie Auld in tunnel against inter who we were told we didn't have a chance again
You think he was sitting thinking oh we can't compete here?
Old school boys went out and got tore in. Now it's just sitting talking about price tags. Who cares, sick hearing excuses at not being able to play a 5 yard pass.
16 Feb 2019 18:56:12
I would keep Bain he is a good Goalkeeper can only remember one mistake in the last game thankfully didn't cost us a goal.
16 Feb 2019 19:09:44
I think some people are only happy when they re complaining, the ones that always see the glass half empty and then they are really happy when we get beat as it justifies their opinion. I think psychology also says that if you tell somebody often enough that he is crap he will start to believe it.
16 Feb 2019 19:41:50
It's not about that donjim. It's about truth.
The truth is we are happy to do the bare minimum for domestic success.
Our board have decided to make no attempt to compete in Europe.
Could we afford better players? Yes
We don't bring them in because we don't need to and some people are happy with that.
Some people are literally saying we can't do Europe so why bother investing. Our own fans literally settling for being better than the rest of a deadwood league.
16 Feb 2019 22:02:43
Seems like you would rather have a foreign goalkeeper for a few million instead of a guy who has been really good up until now.
IMO will only get better!
If we sort out our defence which is the area in most need of improvement Bain could be a top class keeper for us.
16 Feb 2019 23:20:46
agree that we should have better than bain (a free agent from dundee or hibs i think) as our number 1, tge boy has done relatively well but think that is a lot to do with being good with the ball at his feet, fir me he is too small for a keeper, but would be happy with him as 2nd or 3rd keeper.
17 Feb 2019 00:11:36
Ginn I've never criticised Bain just saying he's 27 and until us the best team he succeeded at was Dundee.
He can do an ok job the same as Hartley, Robson and co done.
However I just feel we can scout and attract better. I rate him highly as our 2nd choice.
I'm happy for him to be number one though but I'm just asking if he is the absolute best we can get?
That's different from being happy with it.
Football is cut throat or should be and if we can get better then he (and everyone else) should be replaced if we get better in.
17 Feb 2019 11:56:25
Tesla you can't just bin players when they fall out of favour and get new ones in at the drop of a hat, these guys are on contracts that need to be payed. We would have a squad of about 80 and a 150 million pound wage bill if it was down to you.
18 Feb 2019 10:17:15
Actually that's not even true. We have a huge wage bill because we sign huge numbers of cheap players
Many don't work out and are left doing nothing for a few years. Likes of Allan and co.
Another fault of our policy. We spend £60 mil a year on players and staff. Obviously most of that is player wages
We can afford to give a smaller squad of players between 30-50k a week each for that cash if you do the maths.
Instead we have the likes of Hendry on 10k but lots of others on similar paid for nothing.
Financially we would be the exact same bringing in higher quality as a smaller squad.
16 Feb 2019 07:23:25
So there’s obviously a big comolaint among supporters around our signing process. So let’s just say we BOUGHT Benkovic, Burke, Weah and Toljan. that’s at least £30m. Would certain fans be happy? If so, we have these players and still lost. If not, who do we spend £30m on? Izzy is a back up LB so don’t tell me we need to spend £4m to replace him. Ajer was missing, Tierney was missing, Griffiths is missing to name but a few. As much as there’s a big call for signings, what you’re now saying is that even the loans we have aren’t good enough.
16 Feb 2019 08:55:29
Excellent post McStay. It highlights perfectly the nonsense of the knee jerk reactions you get every time don’t win a game.
16 Feb 2019 11:36:06
No because we would have spent a fortune and still have weak defence . for me it's the manner of the defeat mcstay not the defeat itself . on the 30 million players hypothesis . we only have these players because the club never spent 30 million on quality or are eber likely to do so. would kt ntcham and griff made a difference? not if they played as bad as the starting eleven on Thurs.
16 Feb 2019 11:50:39
Nothing like what people are saying at all
It's the poor reinvestment, poor targets we pick and taking too long to replace positions.
Example. Forster sold for like £13mil - replaced with Gordon and older keeper who had not played for 2 years.
Worked ok at start and saved us money, he's like 60 now and not replaced.
CB - Simunovic injury problems, Ajer young and changed to CB, Boyata isn't even good enough
A position needing strengthened seriously for about 3 years.
It's this style of messing about that's the issue. Cos when you don't act on these cracks early they just get bigger.
Then it builds up and we need to replace a lot of positions at once as oppose to signing 2 or 3 key positions a year with real quality.
16 Feb 2019 12:21:29
The attacking options we have are fine; but the defense has been a problem for a while with injuries, attitude problems and a non-stop array of basic mistakes every time we play in Europe.
Last Thursday we had a loanee RB a centre back that thinks he's better than he is and wants away, another who can be a Jeckel and Hyde, then a substitute LB who - although a great servant - makes too many errors of judgement in big games and has lost pace.
Add to that our Captain who strolls through many SPL games with panache and presence, but is being found out on the bigger stage.
The problems were there for all to see, including the manager and board and the areas of improvement need permanent solutions.
16 Feb 2019 07:12:44
Morra team?
Bain
Toljan
Boyata
Ajer
Hayes
Brown
McGregor
Christie
Forrest
Burke
Sinclair.
16 Feb 2019 13:46:50
Definitely not that team, it needs freshness to the team.
Start weah and eduard. don't know when ntcham is back but need him back, i know he's hot and cold but one of our better technical players.
Even take sinclair and burke out for they 2. Something needs changing as games are thick and fast, can't keep using same team!
16 Feb 2019 02:22:41
Kilmarnock game at the weekend is the most important fixture and Valencia tie was a bonus. Unless the clubs spending model changes we will have to get used to the dire performances in Europe. I am pretty realistic and don’t expect us to roll over teams like Valencia, but expect Celtic to give teams a go, especially at home. Brendan Rodgers has been amazing and I have had some of my best times as a Celtic fan in the last few years. It is clear to me though that stubbornness when it comes to playing superior sides is his downfall. Don’t try and play from the back if you don’t have the players to do it. How many of our European goals of years gone by have been from direct passing front to back or set pieces. Majority of them. Playing out from the back is not working with this squad of players in Europe.
16 Feb 2019 08:58:47
The difference between Brendan Rogers and more mediocre human beings is that he believes in himself. He doesn’t thrown in the towel at the first setback and resort to the easy option. He sticks to the plan because he knows he will succeed one day. He should be applauded for that.
16 Feb 2019 09:24:29
It won't succeed one day. I'm sick and tired of watching the same game in Europe. We can't pass, not good enough or confident enough to play out from the back. Don't get me wrong, I love BR and consider ourselves lucky to have him but in Europe things need to change whether it be personnel or tactics.
16 Feb 2019 10:38:19
Agreed COYBIG this idea that we should hoof it up to the big man every time we come up against a decent team is complete nonsense and would work even less than what we are doing now.
The other night was disappointing but the usual tantrums every time we don't win a game are ridiculous.
16 Feb 2019 13:55:09
We are easy to beat. Anderlecht, Monchengladbach and Valencia all done same thing at parkhead.
Didn't press our man on the ball. Blocked our passing lanes.
Defend centrally and gave us more space out wide as we won't cross the ball in much (no target man)
So it leaves us looking to squeeze passes through tight gaps in the middle
Which leads us to making our own mistakes and losing.
All 3 of those home games were like repeats.
16 Feb 2019 14:14:57
It's about playing with some common sense and not putting ourselves under unnecessary pressure theirs a time and a place to play and it's not usually your own 6 yard box when surrounded by players. Being able to vary the play doesn't make you a long ball team it just makes you less predictable and more of a threat teams will think twice about pressing so high if they know that option is available. Valencia and the likes don't need our help too be dangerous.
16 Feb 2019 15:18:45
Problem is we only sign players based on their technical skill nowadays. All tippy tappy players.
We don't have the option to go long or physical which makes us predictable and one dimensional.