Celtic Banter Archive December 16 2014

 

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16 Dec 2014 23:51:07
Just seen a pic from twitter (don't do twitter but it was on the JG page) of Logan sitting back blowing a raspberry it looked like and saying done the crime now do the time lol, does anyone else think that's a bit out of order.if it goes viral he might regret that. Markie

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16 Dec 2014 22:04:30
Expect a post from Rayman declaring diplomatic sanctions on Holland after Arjen Robben is named Dutch Sportsman of the Year and Craig Gordon didnt even make the shortlist!

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Strange you know about all things orange.Imagine a celtic fan sticking up for a celtic player (shocking).

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What have you done to upset the amateur one 'Rayman'? he must be bored lol. Markie

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@Rayman I have a keen interest in Dutch horti -culture.

@Markiebhoys It's just some gentle ribbing after he mentioned Craig Gordon for poty in about 20 posts on the trot.

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Don't you worry 1 jot rayman if it is NOT a white xmas NL or CG will get the blame for it :-) and look on the Brightside m8 you have a new sparring partner other than DN30 (Y)

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Jamiebhoy i'm past sparring. I just ignore comments

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Lmao DN30 & a had you down as moving to Germany just to create a bit more space (y)

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Lol I am jamiebhoy, next month. I'll still be on this though lol

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@ AH you can't even spell Horsi . And we al know who fell off his horse. Your showing your true blue colours now pmsl.

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Well all the best DN30 mate safe journey mate, a spent a bit of time in Cologne mate a lovely place!

Stay aff the local white asparagus thoh mate makes yer pee stink so it does lol

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Surely when u go to Germany, u could give us a break D N 30.

Only joking 🐯🐯

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16 Dec 2014 20:32:50
Our club signed up to Balance of Probability same as the other teams in the SPFL. We have appealed and lost. Sometimes you have to accept things and move on. In your heart of hearts what do you really think the balance was? The Aberdeen guy just out to cause mischief? Doubt it somehow.
I just read recently, you likely did too, that a Pensioner of about 70 years of age spent a night in the Cell because he allegedly called his neighbors Tinks. You don't get away with anything these days even if you are not in the public eye.

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Why couldn't Logan make up something bad about Celtic or a Celtic player? If he has any interest in MSSM he would come across lies against Celtic or Celtic players almost on a daily basis .

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16 Dec 2014 14:08:01
So regarding the Tonev case Ronny has stated that it is one man's word against another and I agree with him that he should not have been found guilty hope Celtic take it to c.a.s once again the S.F.A making up the rules as they go along to suit themselves.

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16 Dec 2014 15:54:54
I don't see the point in dragging this through an appeal for a loan player tbh I would just sent him back 2 villa he's been unimpressive anyway

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16 Dec 2014 16:09:05
I would imagine he will be back at villa he's been found guilty of this and lost the appeal he's done nothin positive it will hardly be a big loss to the club seems it could be more hassle than its worth

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Should he be found innocent either though bigD? It's a precarious situation and we don't need to open a can of worms but legislation is changing. More often now people are 'guilty until proven innocent. All I will say is that I still find it bemusing that sporting authorities are handling matters which in effect the COPFS or CPS aren't. I mean, Ashley Cole was fined £90,000 for using the word "tw*ts". I mean, some of the crimes you can commit and get fined less is outrageous.

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It seems Tonev was found guilty because he wasn't as convincing as Logan. So if Logan is a good liar Tonev is found guilty . Logan changed his statement
but was still regarded as sounder and more reliable than Tonev . If the rule of balance of possibility had been used in the EBT case , I think we would have a different outcome . I doubt if a Celtic player will ever win a case on the balance of probability under the SFA .

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There is a fair difference in punishment between fining A Cole 4/5 days wages and suspending Tonev for six weeks on the word of one man .

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Surely the guys form is irrelevant with something as serious as this. If he is guilty he should never wear the hoops again. But for me the case is not proven unless the s f a tell us what evidence they have. And if there saying it's because shay Logan is a better witness because he went through all the right channels then that is not enough and we should back our own all the way. It's not just Tonevs career at stake here it's his whole reputation.

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I wasn't comparing the two chris.

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JimTim for me its a case of he said she said innocent until proven guilty the sfa should not be able to come to a decision on this either way so it should have been thrown out imo no evidence and no proof not guilty don't get me wrong if Tonev had done it and it could be proven I would want him hounded but they don't and this guy may be getting labelled a racist unjustly.

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You're right mate. It's not enough evidence really. There are people who have been falsely excecuted ffs. That's just 'justice'. There are too many people though almost claiming that he IS innocent. My point is that he is essentially being branded as a racist, and through his actions a criminal by the sfa. Now they have a duty to highlight such behaviour and pass it on to the crown office. Will it go any further? I doubt it. Then the questions must be asked as to why not? And if so, how or why the sfa can take any action at all.

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Big D, I agree with you, I just cannot see how a club like Celtic, a club for all can turn their back on someone playing for Celtic who can receive such a heavy sentence, on the sole uncorraborated evidence of an opponent . I would expect Celtic to back Tonev as far as possible .

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Not one other player or official came forward to support the claim yet the man is found guilty (unless I have missed something). Thank God we don't have hanging or the black cap would be a permanent fixture. (Oh, just in case I upset any athiests, I will apologise. I did not mean to indicate that your belief is wrong I used the word as a, well-known and well-used, public expression to emphasise my reaction). Surely there must be previous cases where this was not proven due to lack of evidence? (We still have the not proven verdict here is Scotland). Just to upset the SFA I would take it to arbitration.

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Celtic have to be seen as doing all they can for ANY player on there books loan or not if they did not do that where would that leave future loans from other clubs?

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On the balance of probability it's difficult to be sure . At anytime a person can be more convincing than another, but it doesn't necessary mean he is telling the truth .
I could maybe have understood, if they had sentenced Tonev to seven match suspension and suspended five or six matches. It would be more consistent with the punishment given to Sevco, hit man who got twelve match suspension for betting, including betting against his own team, and had nine matches suspended .
Even my suggestion of suspending the greater part of his sentence, would still be unfair at least it wouldn't be so blatant . People say Logan had no reason to make up what Tonev had said. Maybe! But I am sure Tonev didn't wake up that morning and say I am going to become a racist today . So I think it's no more certain that he is wrong and that Logan is right . Probably only Tonev knows .

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