Celtic Banter Archive August 16 2013

 

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16 Aug 2013 22:33:13
If we go for the lad pukki and not finbogason for the sake of a couple of million I will be disgusted. Over 40mil in transfers and CL money brought in in the last 12months and about 5mil has been spent on players! Where is the other 35 odd mil and what is lawwell planning on doing with it? i'm not saying we should spend the whole lot but there is certainly enough there to be able to afford a 5mil player, get your finger out peter, the fans deserve better

Thomas

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How about we spend the 35mil on running the club. The manager will go for the striker he wants to fit the way he wants to play because that's his job.mark

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@OP £40 mil less operating costs of running buddies and wages equals much less than £40 mil. So whilst there is a need to progress in CL we can't go against the business plan or there's no point in having one just to satisfy you. I've said this countless times do you want the club to be run like sevco. Also out of tge 40 mil you speak of only 20 mil of that is banked. 12 mil for VW over 4 years if his contract £3 mil banked this year £5mil for hoops over the same length just over a million banked. Less fees due to other clubs for their sell on feed. Do realistically we never had 40 mil cash we had 24 at best less operation costs and new signings this year already. So tell me why was it again you were posting.

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Thomas, What if FInbogason does not want to come to Celtic. You and others like you need to trust the Celtic management as they want the BEST possible to come to Parkhead
Welwyn Tim

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Pukki will be awesome for us.
Wait and see.
Check his scoring against minutes played. He gets benched and kept out first team, but with us will run riot.

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@1 this is just the figure from the playing side we have a commercial side that helps fund most of the club so that's not a valid point. Ps if it cost 35 mil to run us for two years we are in serious trouble.

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5 using profits to run the club is not a valid point? what? We can put money in the bank and save it for years when we don't make millions from transfers.mark

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16 Aug 2013 18:27:09
Ed, what's the what's going on finnbogason {Ed007's Note - Paul Daniels by the look of it...not a lot.}

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16 Aug 2013 18:48:53
An gutted about this guy pukki? Really poor goals to game ratio - why won't the board spend the money in finnogason? The money we have pulled in in transfers and champions league money easily covers this? I am really upset and this guy pukki will not score goals! I agree le fondre would have been a cracking signing but wages may have been an issue where as finbogasin would be under 25k on wages!

Mark edinburgh

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Mark I don't know how much is being asked for finnowatshisname but if we wanted him and could afford him i'm sure we'd get him if not then we move on. Come on mate Lennon and Lawell both want the best player they can get but we need to be able to afford them.mark

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16 Aug 2013 18:15:58
What is wae all the so called fans
Coming on here to moan, moan,
Moan if your no happy wae the board
And the wae celtic are run, stop
Paying your money for strips and tickets
N f*ck off.
Am more than Happy with the position
Of our club, the way it's run, how much
We spend in a pish league, how we cope
In Europe for being in a pish league.

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Do you not think celtic will benefit from a proven goalscorer in the "larsson mould" in my opinion if we were to find such a player everyone would be bursting the doors down at paradise just like 10 years ago don't you think, what's your thoughts

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If yer going to.moan about fans wanting a bit of quality for their hard earned reddies and if your going to be little the league then leave your name then or bu%%er off mate
Thommyj

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Who are you to tell fans to p*ss off, it's a rumour and banter site where people get to air their views and opinions. At the moment many of us have differing views on transfer policy and how much we should spend or how many players we need.

At the end of the day one side has the long term interests of the club as the priority and others (i have to say myself included) would love to see some decent players brought in.

Regardless of individual opinions for you to tell someone to p*ss off and stop spendig their hard earned money is out of order. Why don't you come back with a name and embarass yourself even further with your ignorant statements.

Gary

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@1 Would that be the same Larsson that cost £650,000, who wasn't really a prolific goalscorer, a bit of an unknown when we signed him cheaply. who then went on to be our greatest ever signing!

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@1 the Larsson mould costs about 20 mil unless you get them when they are mediocre midfielders at feynoord .mark

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You come on here moaning about the fans moaning can't you see the irony There? You're belittling your own statement. Gandalf the green

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16 Aug 2013 18:03:25
I for one am seriously hoping we get surprised with a sudden finbogason signing.

I'm really pretty hacked off with the lack of signings to say the least.

In saying that Celtic tend to do their business privately and professionally. Really hope this is the case

Craigie_bhoy

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We signed 4 players so far. we have 4 cbs 4cms 4wingers we are short up front but are actively trying to sign 1 or 2 strikers as we speak, the transfer deadline is end of August chill mate .mark

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16 Aug 2013 17:38:41
Clever move by Celtic going for Teemu Pukki. Heerenveen won't admit it but they have to sell Finnbogason to stay afloat. Price gradually decreasing as each day of the transfer window passes by.

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By letting people knownthey are interested it increases other clubs interest - bidding war

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16 Aug 2013 17:02:47
I'm a wee bit disappointed that Celtic haven't signed an accomplished finisher to compliment Stokes Baldi and Watt .I feel to take us to the next level this is what's missing. I think all the other areas are sound enough.

PL is no shrinking violet and isn't out to win club personality of the year but has to be praised for the Stirling thankless work he is assigned too but just once I'd like to see him push out the boat and go that extra few yards.

In general the club seems to be in fine shape with the performance, though be it a friendly, in Dublin showing some sort of indication how the development squad and youth team set up are progressing .With a few shrewd buys and the continuation of youth policies etc regular CL group stage football is a distinct possibility and maybe with a bit of luck beyond .

Onwards and upwards .

A wee mention for Oscar and all the other unfortunate children suffering this cruel indiscriminate disease , ifyou can put your hand in your pocket and drop a couple of pound into a collection box. Help rid the world of this horrible illness. TTTS

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16 Aug 2013 16:25:36
Seriously guys your all barking. If we were all as good at running a football club. Managing a football club or scouting for players and knowing a player then why are you not all football chairmen managers scouts or football players. Just because you played fitbaw years ago (clearly not at any level they your spouting p&sh about players on here). If Pukki is the player we get then he should have the attributes we want. If celtic aren't spending money it's because the club must be run as a business and football club hand in glove. Did Fergus McCann no teach you anything. This is reality. We are CELTIC massive club massive fan base being strangled due to the league. Live with it. Who's who say we don't want it get both Pukki and Finngamybooobson. Remember we are not good enough to do the things we do now we are celtic supporters joiners plumbers street sweepers publicans firemen police ambulance nurses unemployed faithful through and through over and over we will follow you.

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16 Aug 2013 15:06:56
ger here, just heard the bad news about wee Oscar his cancer is back, just want to wish wee man the best of luck with his battle, I watched my dad die of cancer and it was horrible to watch, no wee guy deserves to go through that, both sides of the divide unite today with the bad news, god bless wee man.

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16 Aug 2013 14:54:43
This Teemu Pukki is not the striker we need his strike record is terrible, but same old celtic go for the cheap option well I for one hope the Celtic fans make it clear this is just not good enough. Am taking a guess the Finnbogason deal is dead? Ed can you shine some light please.
Samcfc

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Homer Simpson once said 23% of people can use stats to prove anything.

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I'm sure him AND finnbogasson will do just fine. We do actually need two strikers. What if stokes and Sammy were injured at same time?
Amido and Watt?

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16 Aug 2013 18:24:36
How do you know if he's the answer
Are you another 1 wae a crystal f*cking
Ball, 3 million in Scotland CHEAP ma
Arsenal, has any other team even
Payed 100,000 on a player or even a group
Of players. This is scotland deal with it

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Seen someone mention on twatter that pukki scored every 139 minutes played for schalke last season compared to hooper's 135 and I think the german league is a wee bit better than spl so i'm willing to give the guy a chance

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Yeah hibs!, ., .kbarry

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16 Aug 2013 14:10:48
First time poster, long time reader.

BBC now saying that we are putting in a bid for the young Finnish striker Teemu Pukki. I agree with previous posters on here that he isn't good enough to be a replacement for Hooper. Does anyone else think that this is a tactic from Lennon/Lawwell to get Heerenveen to sign off on the deal for Finnbogason. I really hope so.

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Somebody at the bundesliga club thought he was good enough to to play at that level so he must be half decent at least

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Exactly. When we bought hooper I'm sure people questioned his stats and unknown entity. The policy is sign relative unknowns with prospect. Stick to it

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16 Aug 2013 12:57:48
great to hear that pittodrie is a full house tomorow armegeddon aye right. this in my book is the most anticipated fixture since the demise of rangers as aberdeen look set to be rejuvinated under mcinness and I expect a real test tomorow.
Gally

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Same here mate, I really hope Aberdeen finish second this year I think they're the only spl team who would make Europa league group stages.

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The fact they have started well and the full house will mean a really difficult game for us.We also have a load of players doubtful and 3-4 definitely out.Be a tough 90 minutes but I am really looking forward to the game despite another stupid start time!. green jhedi

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16 Aug 2013 12:38:07
I got abuse for saying this last time but Paul lambert is a w**k. Why does he steal all our targets first tonev, now he's supposed to be in for finnabogson! And he will choose epl no doubt.Do villa not have there own scouts? Plus, the pukki guy we are linked too, he's not what we need, he's a wide player we need a poacher goal scorer lack of transfers is frustrating! Hail hail gandalf the green

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I'm sure Celtic aren't the only team looking at these players.

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Bit harsh with that statement about a great ex Celt . If Celtic are dragging their heels about signing players it's only Celtic fault if other teams jump in . I reckon if we seriously want a player we will get him . DH

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We have had plenty of time to sign finnbogasson . its not lamberts fault if he goes to villa but the boards,,,, deep river bhoy

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I know what gandalf is getting at you never hear of interest from clubs like villa until its made public that celtic are interested its frustrating and by the looks of it we r no longer interested in finnbogason it looks as if the board have told Lennon its either that puuki guy or something cheaper another major let down but can't say I didn't see it coming its like something out of chuckles play book show the fans 1 hand but the real deal is behind the other hand

Hoopybhoy {Ed007's Note - Villa have been one of the teams interested in Finnbogason for over a year. It's not a case of anyone 'stealing' targets, it is down to the clubs shopping in the same cost bracket. It's exactly what went on between CFC and Rangers for years, how many times did fans of either team accuse their rivals of 'stealing' their targets?}

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Gandalf what do you expect Lambert to do? Calling him a w*nk is harsh and bang out of order

Bman

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I think you'll find agents hawk their players to loads of clubs.athough I was never his biggest fan he was a cracking servant 2 celtic maybe not quite legend statis but if we had more players with his attitude we'd be a far better team
Cha67

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Why is everybody ranting about transfers when we haven't a clue what's going on behind the scenes. Who knows what Finbogassonis pushing for or what club he's holding out for. Only time wil tell
Herts Will.

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Well why is it when we show interest in a player so does lambert?

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Ed I didn't mean they weren't interested I was making the point that it gets frustrating when the interest from villa and other down there only seems to surface when celtics interest is made public but I see it more as the papers up hear trying to make people look bad when I come on and moan about transfers I am just blowing off a bit of steam I know in the end we will have a good signing in it just gets frustrating when you don't hear anything and Lennon keeps hitting out with the same line week after week

Hoopybhoy

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16 Aug 2013 10:22:09
Hope wee Oscar fights through his latest cancer battle with the same determination as he always has. I'm sure he will do. Myself and all of the Rangers Family are behind you wee man.

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Well said Steven! Sometimes issues like this act as a stark reminder that there are some things more important than football and its associated tribalism.
Kenny

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He beat it once and he can do it again, my thoughts are with him and his family. You can do it wee man.

Darrenbhoy

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We would like to wish little Oscar all the best in his latest fight from my wife and myself both season ticket holders at ibrox

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16 Aug 2013 07:07:21
I wish the majority of my fellow hoops would stop having a go at the board especially over alfies transfer the player has stated he isn't intrested in coming to Scotland van basten his manager has also stated don't go to Scotland I would love it if we got a big name signing but who we going to get with the wages we can offer compared to epl even championship teams offer double keep the faith bhoys some of our best signings have been on the cheap or free larsson lubo ledley Matthews wanyama hooper definitely not interested in another loan unless it's a international quality player also we have a lot of promising young talent at the club that deserve a chance
Gordybhoy44

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When did he state this I haven't seen the comments or van bastens comments either not having a go just asking

Hoopybhoy

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Personally I think £5million is a fee the club could afford, but before I get all the stuff about sevco running into meltdown with that attitude thrown at me, I think celtic need to strengthen, for me it is not get finnbogason or else, it is get a couple of strikers in or else. We have only stokes, sammy and watt, yes Atajic but he is far from ready to be consistent starter. We need a poacher, a goal scorer. Sammy is best in off left flank, stokes wanders to much to get 30 a season, though I am a fan and would have him in my team. I just want more options upfront for Europe and for league.

At the back I have zero faith in ambrose. Can't stand him, people may like him I just don't, let's hope it's the poor first season great thereafter routine for the big man. I would have Mulgrew at CB all day long. Won player of the year playing mainly at CB not LM or CM. hopefully van dijk is a player also, so at the back I think we could be ok. But get in those goal scorers Lenny.

Rbhoy

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Where has he said he's not interested in Scotland? There is an article in the scotmans that directly quotes him as saying he would only play for celtic if he came to scotland

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@2. You seem to have forgotten about Balde!

JGD

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It was on tw*tter so I suppose it's more likely to be untrue if everyone hasn't all ready herd my apoliges thinking about it now but my point was its was it's hard for us to attract players because of the leauge and money
Gordybhoy44

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Pretty sure your muddling that statement up with what rudnev said when we were "in for" him.
Cha67

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16 Aug 2013 01:23:23
Just hearing tonight that wee oscar knox's cancer has come back again. Heartbreakin news the wee man is in another battle for his life again and just want to pass on that thoughts and prayers r with him and his family. Keep fightin wee man u will beat this again YNWA

GunnieBhoy

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I echo your thoughts mate . Just been reading the blog and filling right up . Go wee man you've beat it before, beat it again . F@ck cancer . DH

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My prayers and thoughts are with Oscar and his family. Julieghirl

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I was reading about this last night to Gunniebhoy, there is really no justice in this world sometimes.

Hope the wee guy can keep up the fight. Thoughts and prayers with Oscar and his family. Heart ~ Mrs E

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Seen the news. So desperately sad for him and his family.The wee mans a fighter though so fingers crossed this has a happy ending. Said it before, if countries spent money on medical research not war machines we could beat these terrible diseases. GO OSCAR!. green jhedi

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16 Aug 2013 13:15:14
C'mon Wee Oscar you can beat this again God Bless
John bhoy.

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15 Aug 2013 22:28:06
Hi there I have been reading a blog about arsenals transfer problems called the swiss ramble. its a good insight to financial the side!

i noticed that juventus earned miles more than any other club this year, and infact AC milan were also very highly placed. this was due to the tv pool money. Do any of the eds here know how this is decided? I would have though barca madrid Manchester United would get the most tv money?

Albhoy {Ed001's Note - The size of your domestic TV Market.
Your final position in the previous season’s league.
How many games you play in the competition.
That is how the TV pool money is allotted according to UEFA. By the way, I fully agree on Swiss Rambler's blog, it is an excellent blog for those interested in the finances of football.}

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Cheers ed, just surprised me. even if celtic were to win the champions league there would probably be 5/6 teams getting more revenue than them form the comp. {Ed007's Note - The year that Barca beat Man Utd at Wembley Utd actually made more money from the CL than Barca did, not that much but still more.}

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