Celtic Banter Archive October 15 2014

15 Oct 2014 17:10:39
Here Ed I phoned Celtic Park earlier to ask Ronny what I should make the kids for the their dinner and he never bothered phoned back, ignorant person needs to get a grip with dealing with the public and mind it's us fans that pay his wages. I also asked Kris Commons wife on twitter and she said you can't go rong with anything you can fry and eat with chips but don't go with chicken, they probably had a fly KFC earlier, wonder what she meant by that. She said if it wasn't for her Tefal deep fat fryer and the full fat chocolate milk& irn bru shakes Kris would have to buy a whole new wardrobe, he works hard to keep his body that in shape, well I think she said in. What do you guys reckon I should go for, egg and chips or a half bar of butter to dip in Nutella?

{Ed007's Note - Does Commons' wife still write for The S*n? If so I wouldn't trust anything she says, maybe RD not answering you means he doesn't think they should be eating, have a spell of fasting and detoxification. I'm not even commenting on giving your kids Nutella, where I stay it's the staple diet of the toddlers that mums go to the shops wearing pyjamas, 'Geez 5 scratchy's n a nutella to shut hur up'.}

You must come from a "right posh" area Ed FIVE! Scratchy's ffs! were a come fae it is only TWO :-)

{Ed007's Note - When you live on an estate that a woman won £1million after spending £150 a week (£600 a month) on scratchys for years before her win, and then bought £500 worth right away from her winnings, two scratchys is a starter on the way to taking the kids to school, like your first fag or coffee of the day.}

A take it your a Lanarkshire man then Ed? A had 5 numbers the night that Lanarkshire pub syndicate won it about 6 years ago a was dejected at being so close only to discover 2 of that syndicate had got paid off that week which softened my stance Ed!

Only two years later to waltz away with just under 100k eve of the Paisley fair mate, Good karma lol

{Ed007's Note - I am that, Jamie, I'm an OG Fairhill Muff Diver :=P That was a cracking win for you that £100k, we all know who to get in touch with when we need a sub. I wouldn't be surprised if that news brings Wee Pat out the woodwork, he's always looking for people to scam.... oops I mean invest.}

Nice one Ed, Glad am not the only OG muff diver mate lol

Can't say a know that neck of the woods but I seen you typing about Cork before and I have a good because from Fairhill in Cork mate

Lmao @ wee pat no doubt he will be on looking for some "legit" or "leg it" holiday fund! atvb jb7

15 Oct 2014 14:24:18
Dn30, wot is this Celtic minded push u talk about?, as usual your talking nonsense, no1 dislike s ronny per say just we're really frustrated with him @ present. HH

{Ed007's Note - I'd have to disagree with that. There are supporters out there, let's call them Cainophobic Luddites for want of a better description, who have never given RD a chance and never will, they seem to be taking great pleasure in seeing us go through a sticky patch as it gives them ammunition to feed their need to spread their doom, gloom and negativity, they will find a negative in everything. Everything bad is RD's fault and anything good is just luck, it flattered us and we didn't deserve it. They start girning when we get put out of the CL and wanted RD sacked, he was out of his depth etc then we've got off to a flier in the EL and that's still not good enough, who cares if we won a game, there was plenty to complain about.
What manager could change the whole structure of a club over 17 competitive matches, the Cainophobic Luddites can't see the bigger picture and aren't even willing to give it a chance, it's like trying to teach your dad to use the VCR timer years ago or explaining Skype to your gran.}

15 Oct 2014 15:32:05
Ed, I decided a few weeks ago that ronny deserves the season, c this " Celtic minded " it's a load of sh*te, Dn30 comments have undertones, ie, everything is lennons fault, and any1 who wants Celtic to get beat, so ronny gets sacked isn't really a Celtic fan , only my humble opinion.

{Ed007's Note - You have to admit that our fans cut managers a bit of slack if they were players and even better if they are supporters, I've done it myself at times with Tommy Burns and Lennon when he first started out as manager. If you're an Irish Catholic there's every possibility the CFC support will take to you, if you're also a supporter you've cracked an egg, Paddy McCourt is a prime example, it was embarrassing we had not one but TWO songs about him!
Would he have got the same kind of backing if he was some wee lazy radge from Paisley that couldn't wait until half-time to get off for a fag?}

15 Oct 2014 16:01:27
Maybe/probably everything u say is true, and we don't want to admit it, if iam honest, being a north of Ireland Catholic,there was only 1 team to support, and that's y am probably a bit defensive of lenny, but iam anti racism, anti secterian, etc ,I support Celtic now because I lov and admire the ethos on which the club was formed and run presently. Rant over, ps dn30 I talk,type shot sometimes.

DaBhoy il explain in detail for you. By the way, I couldn't care less where you came from or what religion you are! Does that make you some sort of super supporter and your opinion more worthy than someone who is not?

Celtic minded pi$h is quite simply the inability of a segment of "so called celtic fans" to accept the reign of a manager BECAUSE HE HAS NO PRIOR ASSOCIATION WITH CLUB AS A PLAYER OR BECAUSE HE IS NOT IRISH.

And before you say its all bull$hit how about WGS as an example? Far better manager than oneill, certainly better than lennon yet this same segment had it in for him even after winning treble in a far more competitive league with (r.i.p) rangers in it.

Its not just supporters like yourself that are of this mentality. Dermott Desmond broke wage structure twice to sign Robbie Keane and Roy Keane. No disrespect to the 2 players, but Desmond only done this because they were from Ireland.

15 Oct 2014 19:43:24
Dn30, again your talking complete nonsense, wot makes u think I think iam a super fan because iam a irish catholic and my view/opinion is superior (wiseup), and we're did this definition of celtic minded come from, did u make it up or read it of some other site.Can u not make any contribution without mentioning lennon, I asked b4, did he turn u down once for an autograph. On mangers your wrong again, wot about win janseen,Dr Joe, 2 irish men who played for celtic not,again wiseup, and again your contradicting urself, u cry get Desmond out because he won't spend money,now your crying because he did,which is it.

{Ed007's Note - First I heard of 'Celtic minded' was from Fergus McCann, and it wasn't in a complimentary way.}

15 Oct 2014 20:02:12
Doesn't sound good Ed, and I could hazard a guess if it came from mc cann, could u clarify it Ed.

{Ed007's Note - I found this through a free archive source so I have no idea who wrote but I have a hunch it was an article from The Guardian round about 1997/98 if Davie Hay has not long been axed as GM.


CELTIC chief Fergus McCann last night launched an astonishing attack on "Catholic bigots" undermining his anti-sectarian campaign.

Tommy Burns and Davie Hay - both ex-Parkhead bosses - have criticised the Bhoys Against Bigotry drive.

Burns accused Celtic of confusing tradition with bigotry and Hay - recently axed as assistant General Manager - accused the club of ditching "Celtic-minded" people.

But McCann hit back yesterday as the club issued a campaign progress report.

He said: "These are really veiled comments by people I would call Catholic bigots.

"As far as I am concerned, a person who is determined to do the best they possibly can on behalf of Celtic Football Club is Celtic-minded.

"That's what we look for when we employ somebody and all 325 employees are 100 percent Celtic minded - no matter what their background is."

Asked if his "Catholic bigots" comments were directed at Hay and Burns McCann - flanked by Cardinal Thomas Winning and Church of Scotland Moderator Sandy McDonald - said: "I'm making a general comment.

"I would not want to be drawn into personalities or names.

"But I would say the definition of what qualifies as Celtic-minded is completely different from what has appeared in these articles.

"I will leave you to your own interpretation of the articles you've seen rather than make further comment on them."

General manager Jock Brown added: "I take the greatest possible exception to the allegations that we are trying to drive out Celtic-minded people.

"When I came here, one of the attractions was the club's true traditions and how it was formed to help the needy in the East End of Glasgow.

"I worry greatly about references like this as every one of our 325 employees become Celtic-minded as soon as they enter Celtic Park."

Burns, now a coach at Newcastle, said last night: "What Mr McCann says doesn't concern me at all. I have absolutely no interest in what he's got to say for himself. I'll leave it at that."

I heard Billie Mc Neil talk about Celtic minded players when he was manager . I don't remember whether it was during his first term or second term as manager.

Dabhoy it was YOU who brought up subject of religion and your nationality. I merely provided an answer to the debate based on your response and factual evidence.

Probably best you brush up on your history and try to provide an answer which is accurate.

Doc Venglos? Wim Jansen? How much do you actually know? Venglos was in similar position to WGS and Jansen was met with similar, but all was forgiven and loophole to this criteria was excused because he stopped 10 in a row.

Mentioning lennon is very relevant as there is a faction of celtic fans who would still see him as the blue eye boy even if he was in delias shoes just now.

Sorry i'm failing to see how my analysis of desmond is wrong. We needed investment at start of season and I guarantee you that if a player of similar quality as robbie keane back then was available in same scenario guess what.player would be nowhere near club unless he was irish! Challenge you to prove me wrong Dabhoy

16 Oct 2014 01:28:38
@Dn30, with regards religion and nationality, u interjected.by saying u didn't care , I didn't ask,i was responding to 1 of ed's points, wot part of your response was factual evidence, wot part of history do I need to brush up on to provide an accurate answer,Dr Joe,Wim Janseen,how much do I actually no, wots the question, just more stupid points for u to make, how is mentioning lennon relevent, and your analysis on Desmond, wot analysis, your posts just amount to ramblings and ar complete nonsense, I take it lenny did turn u down for an autograph, Look forward to reading your enlightened response, ( super fan because iam a irish catholic) u do talk some rubbish

@dabhoy you clearly felt need to bring up subject in your opening post and state this to make you out to be a super supporter whos opinion is more valued than anyother supporter. You have been exposed for this!

With venglos and jansen what part are you not getting? Thought it was fair straight forward my response that they had same issues as delia is getting just now.

16 Oct 2014 09:24:21
Dn30, again u failed to answer any questions, and keep regurgitating the same shite, iam only wasting my time responding, if u don't understand the points, ask someone to explain them to u,( super fan because iam a irish catholic)

@dabhoy what planet are you on? Every question has been answered. No point in arguing with someone who cannot see the wood from the tree so no I shall just be blanking you. Good luck with your wee fantasyland

My dad followed celtic through thick and thin all over the country. He would never set foot in Ibrox for one simple reason. He said, "any football club that shows bigotry to religious background will not directly receive a penny from me." He was very old school in many ways but had his standards.

@tinytim mate your dad is spot on. For me there are too many people living in the past and it really irates me why some people want to bring religion into football.

15 Oct 2014 13:33:07
Now that NL has got a new club, do you think he'll come in for any of his old favourites, could be a good chance to clear some dead wood and free up some money.

{Ed007's Note - Bolton's financial problems could make that very difficult and they are facing a potential transfer embargo. I hope I'm wrong but I think NL will end up regretting getting involved at Bolton.}

15 Oct 2014 14:03:26
GoldenBhoy many of our squad would you be bothered about losing 'IF' lennon came in with offers? van dijk they won't be able ae afford so count him out and broony wouldn't move. Personally he can take as many of the rest as he wants

There are very, very few players at Celtic that I would miss - and I have not said that for many years; however the standard and calibre of player we have at present are nowhere near what used to be termed Celtic class.
I sincerely hope Lennon fills his boots.

{Ed007's Note - I'd hate to see Brown leave and I'd love to see Guidetti signed permanently but apart from that, I wouldn't be too fussed as long as we get decent money for those that leave. Others like Mulgrew, Forrest and Griffiths I'd just be glad to see the back of.}

15 Oct 2014 22:03:06
Ed is think Griffiths will go to Bolton if they are still not scoring by Christmas. That of course is if RD is still in the job. I know Lennon thinks highly of Commons but whether he would move is another question, however I have a feeling that all is not well between him and RD? Maybe that is totally wrong. If he signs a new contract then I'm wrong! As you say Ed, big fiancial problem at Bolton so they won't be spending a lot.

{Ed007's Note - Commons problems started with the contract negotiations, I've been told by some people the new deal involves a drop in money and a few others have said the length on offer (snigger) isn't offering the security Commons wants, Commons is supposedly looking for a 3 yr deal and Pedro is offering 2. That was the last I heard about a new contract a while back so God knows where the media came up with the RD was going to offer him a chance to get into coaching story, nobody had even bothered telling his agent about it. I think the contract situation is at the same stage as Samaras was at, that's the offer, take it or leave it but there's no negotiations.
As for any problem with RD, Commons has always found it difficult to motivate himself at training, he's never been the most hard-working player and certainly has no problem voicing his opinion.}

15 Oct 2014 00:45:26
I must b sicker than I thought I was,
Just seen an ad for a rangers sale on the Celtic page
Can u confirm ED.

{Ed007's Note - I can't mate as we have no control over the ads but they are linked to your browser history, you must be spending too much time reading about Scotland's Shame. I hope you are all clicking on an advert every now and then, you don't need to buy anything just click the advert, that's basically where the money to run the sites comes from and at this time of year we can do with all the help we can get. I'm sure you will all agree that it's not right Ed001 and Ed033 end up out of pocket for running all these sites but that's where we are just now, a wee click on 1 or 2 ads a day by everyone would certainly help out.}

15 Oct 2014 01:19:54
No problem Ed, usually have a sneaky look to see wot the zombies ar chatting bout.There was a thread today basically saying celtic were/ar responsible for installing there corrupt board, celtic fans think there paranoid.

{Ed007's Note - I still pee myself laughing every time they moan about being 'relegated'. Nobody in the known universe apart from them thinks they were relegated. I know my history, and my history is unbroken, They will never be able to honestly say that, what they say, will always, and forever, be a lie. I always feel like a need a shower after I look at their page.}