Celtic Banter Archive November 15 2011

15 Nov 2011 22:08:46
Good Old Republic of Ireland, well done the Timalloys will be in Poland/Ukraine
With apologies to Gene Kelly...
We're singing in Ukraine, we're singing in Ukraine,
What a glorious feeling, I'm having again,
We're singing and dancing in Ukraine Ireland, Ireland
Timalloy

Great result for Republic Of Ireland, the Irish sure know how to party... Still jealous its not Scotland ! - Mrs E

15 Nov 2011 21:39:57
Surely with all the crap flying about regarding which songs are good bad or indifferent, can the sfa not provide all spl teams( hibs & hearts just as bad as old firm) with a list of songs that are deemed to be unacceptable and provide the reasons why they deem them unacceptable. If anyone feels strongly enough about a particular song they could challenge it through the courts and obtain a ruling. Otherwise accept the list of banned songs and get on with it. The sfa could then post a fixed penalty list for those who fail to comply. Example being....fines for 1st & 2nd offence, 3pts deducted for 3rd offence, 5pts for 4th offence etc. Wont take long for everyone to get their house in order

Jd {Ed007's Note - A list should definitely be drawn up, there are no clear guidelines for any club to follow, that is where a lot of the problems come from. There are obvious songs/chants but there is a massive grey area that nobody can shed any light on.}

Now ur asking for a list ed ??
funny that when celtic are getting pulled up yez make me laugh hee he


T-Bear {Ed007's Note - I have said there needs to be a list for months, otherwise nobody will know what they can or can't do. There needs to be a clear definition of what is acceptable and what isn't.}

Why does that make you laugh T-Bear ?

T-Bear you are just like your pal Tony , lets get this list published asap , but i think your club will have the longest list m8t , not many Rangers' songs that don't have religious connitations , including that innane drivel "Penny Arcade" which is one of the worst songs ever written , but bad as it is , it suits your purposes (you know why) , so instead of sniggering , act your age , grow up and help us get rid of this nonsense from our game ,

T-Bear just like Tony you make a stupid post having a pop at Celtic , but when someone replies in a sensible manner you crawl back under your stone without giving a credible reply , go back onto your own site and take Tony with you , theres a good man !

15 Nov 2011 20:40:17
Sorry ED. what is the reason they play penny arcade . I really dont know . and why should it be banned. {Ed007's Note - I wouldn't give it the dignity of discussing it. Look it up.}

Ed007... you wont give it the dignity of discussing? Your an idiot. I am gers fan and you are soo bias on this page. at least the other eds try and stay as impartial as they can be...

Thats right its apparently about a murder of a catholic man in 1986 (song written in 1969) and after all the sectarian s**te that goes on the football club would play this over the tannoy system, get real.

Whats happened is someone has decided this is why we sing it, and its spread around celtic circles like a virus.

Did you know that just cant get enough was written about him comming out as a homosexual in ref to cant get enough of men... So does that mean that you sing it because of your love of men? No.

No doubt this will get chopped up and wont all get posted.

take your green tinted specs off for a change and just admit you DONT ACTUALLY KNOW WHY ITS SUNG... YOU JUST HEARD THATS WHY. {Ed007's Note - Eh cretin, Tony Hadley from Depeche Mode (wrote JCGE) is not gay lmao. Believe me I know exactly why it is sung and that is the reason that any posts on Rangers site quoting it are edited. Why has it been played at Rangers/Loyalist and Orange Order functions since the 80s/90s? If ever a list of banned songs is published, it will be on it. Look up the videos on Youtube connecting Rangers to the song and read Rangers forums (which I do daily) and you will find out exactly why the song has been adopted. Does it matter when it was wrote? YNWA was wrote in 1945 for a musical called Carousel.}

Tony hadley in depeche mode eh??? lets hope you know more about football than you do about music..........EPIC FAIL {Ed007's Note - Apologises, Spandau Ballet, 80's new romantic music wasn't my thing. But he isn't gay.}

Ed u know nothing an shown urself up for a complete MUG once again the man is right about the just cant get enough song but u only do research on gers songs by the look of it and look for a bad angle to come back with get a fecking life mate

T-Bear {Ed007's Note - So Tony Hadley who was married for about 20 years, is on his second wife now, and has 4 kids wrote a song all those years ago about being gay? Seems a bit strange to me.}

Tony Hadley of Spandau Ballet did not write Just Can't Get Enough. The song written by By Vince Clarke of Depeche Mode.

Song was written by vince clarke who is not gay and has been married since 04 and has a son so the o.p is wrong

ED007, can I ask what your thoughts are on 'Something Inside So Strong' being played at CP on the last game of last season then ? I will leave you to do the research of that song as well. Be interesting to know your thoughts.

I have heard all the rumours about the penny arcade as well and I do believe this was started as that kind of song. However, Ibrox has chnaged and it is just one of they songs that was adopted last year again due to the money trouble and still winning etc etc. It's catchy as hell and I for one will keep singing it without a sectarian angle to it at all. I don't go out to offend people. I think people should just get a life and stop looking to score points off each other. I am not offended by anything Celtic fans sing as it's just to wind people up. Me and my mates call each other things during games that we would not say out loud but its just a wind up too. If your offended by people singing a song, I think then you must be a bigot yourself and be a bitter person.

{Ed007's Note - I answered that question last night. I am far from a bigot mate or bitter. If you are not offended by CFC fans singing songs about the IRA and see it as a wind up then that is your problem, most decent minded people would not see glorifying terrorism of any kind as a wind up, I know I certainly don't, and neither does the law. Even the name you tried to use proves who the bigot in this situation is.}

ED007, can you reply to the initial question. What is your thought on 'Something Inside So Strong' ? As usual you skip the relevant part ot have a dig at a Rangers fan. I know you replied to it last night but I can't see the reply. . As for saying you are not a bigot, that line was nto intended directly at you but at anyone else who is offended by someone singing a song. Unless it si someone who has lost someoen to the IRA or whatever. I thought Celtic fans didn't sing IRA songs anyway. Thought it was just political songs. Can you also enlighten me why my name is bigoted ?

{Ed007's Note - Sorry for the cut and paste, but if you can't read down the page I'm not wasting my time retyping it. As for your name, I don't believe for a minute that that is your real name, if you don't know about the real man then again that is your problem, not mine.

Something inside so strong? ed whit about this IRA ditty {Ed007's Note - What?????? What the hell has an anti-apartheid song got to do with the IRA??? It was wrote as inspiration to stand tall in the face of adversity during apartheid in South Africa and has been adopted by countless cultures as a song of inspiration, it was sung to show support against the nonsense NL went through off the field last season. Any connections to what you say I honestly couldn't answer but I have never heard it in that context, if you have fair enough but I have never even seen it in that context as a download or anything.}

ED007, you have once again proved what an ignorant and bitter man you are. That is my real name but I am not surprised you say I am a bigot because of it. Why did you not go on forums to investigate that song like you did for Penny Arcade. I have used my name on this site on numerous occasions and yet you are the only Ed to say it is bigotted. This is obvioulsy pointless as you are too bitter to even see sense. Can you clarify once and for all then - Celtic do sing pro IRA songs then and they are not just policitcal songs ? It's just you said Uefa had no case as the songs Celtic sang were political and not sectarian. One rule for one and a different for other eh ?

{Ed007's Note - That is not what I said, I said the songs were classed as offensive, not sectarian. That is why they are being charged by UEFA over 'illicit chanting', the UEFA ruling CFC are being done under has no mention of sectarianism in it I also have said on many occasions the songs/chants should stop. Are you just making things up as you go along?}

What about Bryn singing 'Something Inside So Strong' in Gavin & Stacey...that was a lol moment

15 Nov 2011 20:38:03
U couldn't make it up Mastorovic scores Englands 2000th international goal!.......DH

15 Nov 2011 19:49:22
Just like to say looking forward to Irelands big game tonight. All the best bhoys!
ChrisBhoy67

15 Nov 2011 18:49:08
ED007, I posted a couple of days ago that I felt the Green Brigade, if they were genuine Celtic fans, to stop these IRA chants. We all know this is only a small minority of a small minority, but it is hurting our great club.
Having said that, I am going back into my old "paranoid" Celtic fan mode and have to ask has this policeman got an "agenda" against Celtic. Why no arrests at the game, why seek out the UEFA guy and report to him, now we hear same policeman has reported to SPL officials.
Is it just me, or is this just another blatant attempt to tar us with same brush as our south side neighbours, or to take pressure off of them?
Do the police at Ibrox film the blue order? do they mingle with them to hear any songs? We Celtic fans want answers to these questions. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I still don't know why there were no arrests made regarding it, Eddie Smith should have had the culprits arrested, as I said yesterday, what is the point of policeman at matches if they can't do their job of crowd control properly. Yet they can stand with video cameras and and can acknowledge members of the GB by their first name/nicknames. If CFC are found guilty of this, expect complaints regarding national anthems, clubs up and down the land songs, it will open a huge can of worms that I don't think UEFA will be able to cope with. Do English people find Flower of Scotland offensive?? It could be banned if you read the rules CFC are alleged to have broke.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/uefa-leave-celtic-with-no-defence-over-ira-chants-16077455.html

15 Nov 2011 14:21:12
REf: SShh Tim does not like anyone to know about his Take That Secret.....
ED007 I am Offended, everyone knows I am a great KRANKIES fan, and has there ever been a better song or lyrics than FAN DABI DOZY? LOL Timalloy
PS now you see where my jokes repertoire comes from ha ha {Ed007's Note - That's just wrong mate lol.}

For £100,000 would u spent a dirty weekend way the krankies?

viewparkbhoy {Ed007's Note - Is that how much they charge????? :-)

Depends what ur pleasure is ed i.e teeth in or just gums lol

viewparkbhoy {Ed007's Note - No comment :-)

Ha ha Viewparkbhoy, ED007 wonder what the pschiatrists would make of their marriage, a women who cross dresses as a schoolboy LOL Timalloy
PS saw them umpteen times in panto one of the most difficult questions to answer is when a five year old asks "where is wee Jimmy" when she comes out as herself at end of show?? ha ha

15 Nov 2011 13:50:20
although this singing is wrong, why is it only scotland that is being focused on by UEFA for 'OFFENSIVE CHANTS'.

is inter singing about the heysel disaster to juve fans not offensive? is many english clubs singing about the munich air disaster not offensive? and songs sung by basque teams in spain not offensive?

how do they decide what is offensive? and why are UEFA focusing on scotland? is it because they don't want to upset any of the bigger leagues? {Ed007's Note - I have said on many occasions about how rife racism is in Italian football, look at the Turks fans behaviour as well. Even in the holy ground of the EPL you have Man Utd getting songs about Munich sang to them, LFC get taunted about Heysel and Hillsborough and Leeds about the two(??) men who sadly lost their lives in Turkey. These should all be addressed as well IMO.}

Maybe those other things should be looked into at some point but the issue right now is with our club and we need to stop this offensive chanting or face being tarred with the same brush as Rangers even if the chanting is not illegal. {Ed007's Note - The chanting isn't illegal, but it is offensive to some. If they do this with CFC then surely all the other clubs and countries I have mentioned should face the same sanctions as we will if found guilty, that is all I meant, UEFA are again opening up a BIG can of worms.}

15 Nov 2011 10:26:32
Rangers tax case to continue in January. On BBC website. {Ed007's Note -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15736024

Apparently the verdict might not be until April now ED? That's good news for us we should have the title in the bag by then lol Next season but might start -10pts relegation battle for the first 5 games lol

Billyboy1

Wouldn't it just be a scunner if they whip 10 points off you April/May time if the point difference is only 1 or 2 lol

15 Nov 2011 08:01:08
Back of today's record.

Another complaint this time about hibs at home. I honestly hope we get hammered for this as I have said b4 there's 3 games I have on sky plus & you can hear certain chanting.i know the GB are getting the finger pointed at them but do you think they think they will get away with it because of what they do at the home games (ie get the fans going etc)

Lenny

Lenny,

I understand the Green Brigade has brought some colour and a slight element of positive energy amongst the Celtic support. The problem with the Green Brigade is that they think they are a law amongst themselves and have had mnay run-ins with the police over the past couple of seasons.

It is well known that the majority of the Green Brigade are Irish and as it happens like nothing more than to get their Irish political views across, which has been well documented.

I have said for a long time that the Green Brigade aren't the angels that a lot of folk like to think. Don't get me wrong, both sets of fans have an element of scumbags who couldn't care less about the consequences.

But I think this is the kick up the rear the Celtic fans need to realise that everything ain't all rosie in the Green Brigade corner.

The question is, for both Rangers fans and Celtic fans, will it ever stop?....I don't think so.

TonyTheGer {Ed007's Note - The majority of the GB are not Irish, they were formed in 2006 from the remnants of the Jungle Bhoys.}

Neil Lennon speech end of last season

"We as a club this season have nothing to reproach ourselves for whether it be the board, the supporters or the players"

pity he cant say the same about this season {Ed007's Note - Last season Craig Whyte was a billionaire with wealth 'off the radar'. Pity he can't say the same this season either isn't it?}

Ed. I just assumed there were more Irish than Scottish in the GB. I have mates who have ended up amongst the GB at Hampden and away matches and all I hear them slabber about is how these irish duys done this and how these irish guys done that. Apologies if my assumption is wide of the mark.

TonyTheGer {Ed007's Note - There are Irish guys in it, but the majority are Scottish, unless it has changed that much in recent years, they do seem to be getting younger every season than I remember at the beginning of it all.}

Ed why bring craig whyte into the post regarding lennons speach all i was saying was its a pity he cant say the same this season as the Team has let him down the board have let him down and now a section of fans have let him down. and as stated above Neil Lennon said those words show me one quote where Craig Whyte said he was a Billionaire with wealth of the radar you are always quick to point out Rangers fans behaving badly but when someone mentions your beloved celtic in a negative way you come out with some smart a55 remark about rangers. i remember reading one of your replys to a rangers fans where you slated him for saying you if we done this then you done that and you were fed up with this tit for tat carry on now you are doing it {Ed007's Note - Why bring up what NL said last season? NL was commenting on last season, it has no bearing on this season what so ever. CFC have not been found guilty of anything yet, if they are found innocent then NL could make the exact same statement this year and be correct, so you have kind of jumped the gun, and NL's statement was a thank you for the way the fans stood by him during all the troubled times. Hasn't NL spoke out about theses songs not being sung? As for Whyte, it was the press that was reporting him as a billionaire etc for months and he was happy to play along with it, why didn't he say anything then? Or is it for that reason he keeps banning the media from Ibrox, the lies they have told about how much money he had? John Greig amongst others said last season not to trust Craig Whyte, at least they can still say that this season though eh?}

Ed..this is starting to annoy me. Other fans seem to be of the impression we are denying any wrongdoing but if they took the time to actually read any of the comments from Celtic Supporters, we have said we are embrarassed this has happened and in no way denying or saying there's an agenda against us (unlike some). I really hope Celtic take some positive action against the small minority who do the chanting being referred to. Own-house-order eh ? Rangers have not only been hauled in front of UEFA for chanting was there not an assault on the Villareal bus as well ? {Ed007's Note - Four times Rangers have been in front of UEFA for 'sectarian' singing/chanting. I am hoping this is the wake up call CFC fans need that it is unacceptable, but for a first offence the punishment won't be much I would imagine, but the minority of fans should be taking pride in the club's reputation, not trying to tarnish it.}

As for them all being Irish...doubt it. I think its the average that's come down. Some of the teenagers at my sons' school claim to be 'in the Green Brigade' & are in no way Irish.

The SFA have waded in now with the Hibs game - this should be interesting as they can punish all team in SPL not just the teams playing in European competitions. Aberdeen..Motherwell..Hearts

If john greg and the others were so against craig whyte taking over why didnt he and the other board members resign as soon as the deal went through as for craig whyte not speaking up when the press was saying he was a billionaire my guess is it suited him also you say that celtic have not been found guilty regarding the in appropriate songs and i have jumped the gun well you are right on that one and thanks for correcting me i hope you will be consistent and correct nearly every second poster on here regarding the Rangers tax case because as of yet Rangers have not been found guilty of any wrong doing. {Ed007's Note - How have Rangers not been found guilty of any wrong doing? What about the £2.8 million bill and the fact that part of the deal of the take over was that Whyte would take over the responsibility of the upcoming HMRC cases?? The money was ringfenced for a reason, Whyte knows he needs to pay the 'wee' tax bill'. That sounds like wrong doing to me. The sums involved are a £1.9 million bill, and £0.9 million in interest. The penalty is £1.4 million. Rangers accept liability for the first two sums, it is the penalty they are contesting, hence £2.8 million was ringfenced, win or lose the 'wee' tax case, that £2.8 million will still go to HMRC, the hearing will determine if the £1.4 million penalty is payable or not. So I don't really need to correct anyone do I? Well apart from you.}