Celtic Banter Archive August 15 2018

15 Aug 2018 22:24:26
Brendan has done brilliantly well. But I think his tactics will always be flawed in Europe history tells you that defensively minded teams that counter attack win. Unless your a Real, Barcelona, Ajax or us circa 67 in our pomp. We need to back Brendan as I think he will deliver 10 but we have struggled in Europe.

AEK have only spent 700 k on their biggest transfer but they have access to a wider marked PAOK put our old foes Basil out hammered them. The Greek gods never shined on our team issues with our players whether injured or not being replaced killed our chances keep faith and don't feed the hype and shambles that is Glasgow Rangers. HH.

15 Aug 2018 23:14:21
You are right about something powder finger. Brendan Rodgers is tactically nieve when playing in Europe! You can't play European sides the same way you play against Ross County. It doesn't work, something he fails to grasp.

16 Aug 2018 00:15:53
Don't you think that the negativity is similar to when we were 3 league wins under wee Gordon. We actually had a really good team then Negativity killed tbat team they were boring to watch we spend no money all the bull that's going on now were we winning The custodians at Celtic will pull is through this HH Amigo.

16 Aug 2018 10:40:22
Why not on it a blessing in disguise as brendan wouldn't get any of the 40 million anyway.

16 Aug 2018 15:04:41
I remember getting abuse for saying the same about Rodgers when we were undefeated.

Far too open at the back, to play that tactic u need your defence to be pretty much your best and most dominant players.

unless you have Messi, and the board should have recognised and made they positions a priority.

instead we have jack hendry and tbh we would be as well playing biton there.

16 Aug 2018 20:09:54
Button got murdered when we played him there.

16 Aug 2018 20:58:20
Brendan has been accused of been too open at the back . Maybe true about games in the past but on Tuesday night we had 8 men in the box and only 1 AEK player when we conceded first goal . We had 9or 10 players in box when we gave up the 2nd goal . So anyone talking about B R team loose at the back are talking historically which might be interesting but not relevant.

15 Aug 2018 21:18:04
Boyata, Compper, Bitton, Alan, Hendry, DDV, Benyu, Alan, Hayes, Christie. there's 10 that should be out the door. Folk say Hendry will come good mabe if him and Ajer had 1 or 2 quality proven Centre Half's to play alongside . BR and the Board surely have seen our Defence is a shambles and needs sorted ASAP.

15 Aug 2018 21:54:19
Whatever happened to Benyu? Seemed light-weight but energetic and clever when he first showed up.

15 Aug 2018 23:41:38
I think Brendan likes Hendry, although when he plays we rarely win, more than just a coincidence.

15 Aug 2018 23:54:11
Well Boyata has to go, don't think there is any way back for him, he will find out the grass isn't always greener, Commper, Biton, have to go, for different reasons, Allan, if he wants to go, I would let him, but I would have him in the team before Rogic, Henry, must be kept, he has potential, and I think he will fulfill it, Hayes keep, he is a good squad player, Christie is going to be a top, top player, keep him.

15 Aug 2018 20:51:14
Over the 2 legs we were the better team but our defence is bottom third spl level so the outcome was always going to be this without investment!

Rodgers just looks fed up. Lustig has collapsed, hendry too young and shouldn't be near a celtic first team. Same with joso. Boyata is a disgrace to the human race. We need a bobo at the back. Proper no nonsense. Hopefully will all be a bit better in the coming weeks i. e transfers or i think rodgers could!

15 Aug 2018 21:08:29
Hendry's not too young Bhoyo he's 23. Boyata will never play for us again, if he does there will be a riot, totally unforgivable. I'm sure there will be at least a couple in and a couple out before end of window .

15 Aug 2018 21:29:13
If there was any justice in football no club would go near Boyata after his antics. A player who won't play at one club could quite easily not play at his next club if he doesn't get his way over everything.
Playing with a lot of big egos at the World cup seems to have given him a big ego.
He should realise that without the help of Celtic and the coaching staff who kept faith in him, he would never have got to the World cup in the first place.
He is the typical football mercenary who Celtic will be well rid of.

15 Aug 2018 21:47:02
Never known a player with so little talent have such a big ego.

16 Aug 2018 10:43:28
Boyata has maybe a dozen good games for us in his time at celtic yet he thinks he is a world beater I for one hope he goes to sevilla they won't ever do anything with him in the team and can see them getting hammered off of Barcelona and real then see where he ends up. So rubbishty lower league club.

15 Aug 2018 20:43:24
We shouldn't accept the excuse of not buying players now that were in the EL. Get players in now and in the january window with an eye on next seasons qualifiers. Get them bedded in. Leaving it late or leaving it alltogether like this time has cost us. The time to rebuild our squad is now, more than ever.

15 Aug 2018 20:36:17
Ed001 has created a new site which is a humorous Football Player Top Trumps type site. It is on our Player Ratings site if you want to take a look.

15 Aug 2018 20:29:59
I'm sorry but Brendan has to step up and do summit with that team you just don't become poor overnight.

15 Aug 2018 21:14:19
Blackhillbhoy do you go by any other name?

15 Aug 2018 22:05:27
Augustus Glupe
John from Provanmill
Sammy from Sighthill
Lord Lucan.

15 Aug 2018 19:50:51
HAHAHAHA ED, did you change @rs#holes to very naughty? am in fits.

{Ed007's Note - :-D

15 Aug 2018 19:36:07
My outlook on this disaster from last night and that is we can't blame one person for this everyone at celtic let us down last night fingers can be pointed but everyone at our club should take the blame.

15 Aug 2018 19:50:13
Was there any truth in the schar and piccini rumours both seem like logical signings but did not committ and went to other clubs.

15 Aug 2018 19:59:19
. recruitment policy needs looked at . since lenny 81 players in and over two thirds of which have been biscuit tin crap. we need to stop buying cheap quantity over quality . we need to buy at a higher level. both monetary and skillwise we need to look at changeing our wage structure upwards somewhat . if we are to have a chief scout why don't we identify the most successful one/ s and make a transfer bid for him / them. it's clear something needs doing.

15 Aug 2018 20:39:25
Agree, BR has done exactly what he said he wouldn’t t do- buy squad players. Only 2 of his signings started last night (would have been 1 if Boyata don’t take huff) and that is not great for 5 transfers windows. Some loss of form (SS) some not good enough (Kouassi, Hayes, Gamboa, Comper) some injury prone (MD, OE? ) but even new recruits like Morgan won’t really do. Is he any better than our young fringe players? This window I would be happy with one quality CB. Surely we can find someone who can stay fit, not get sent off regularly and knows how to defend? Erik was as close as we had to this.

15 Aug 2018 18:52:11
Ed got told from a friend of mine that the problem with brendan was. He was told he had 15million to spend and he chose to sign edouard perm and get a new pitch I don't know how reliable this is have you heard anything like this.

{Ed007's Note - No.}

15 Aug 2018 19:28:57
Ok cheers ed.

15 Aug 2018 19:39:28
Doudt it the pitch was started last season so can't see how that's in the playing budget.

Eduardo maybe cost Celtic 9m if all the add ons are hit. Champion league qualification, Eddie making French national squa ECT. So story doesn't add up.

Even if it was true he would have had enough to buy McGinn which we all know didn't happen.

15 Aug 2018 20:03:23
He got £9m for Edouard but the board clawed £8.5m for Armstrong and Sviatchenko and saved a wage so he has actually spent nothing .

15 Aug 2018 21:16:24
Not to mention the Van Djik money.

15 Aug 2018 19:02:50
Does anyone have the time to show all of Ronnie's signings and all of Rodgers signings?

The reason - Rodgers is taking flak and rightly so for his signings but I'm sure Ronnie took pelters for his signings also.

Is the case the scouting is poor, Lawwell is too involved or managers that can't pick a player?

15 Aug 2018 19:55:00
I have googled the last three managers signings (BR, RD and NL) and it's very fair to say that including loans, there are many more flops than successes over the past 6 years or so.
We tended to often wait until the end of windows and maybe panic a bit with what was left and there have been quite a few disasters.
NL made 45 signings in total and Griffiths, Rogic, Biton and Lustig are still there - another one 'Izzy' has been re-signed.
RD made 23 signings and Ajer, Simunovic, Allen, Christie, Gordon and the one called Boyata are still registered today.
BR has made 16 signings so far - including the latest big Eddy.
There are far too many flops to list - although there have been some good signings along the way, but 84 have been brought in at some stage in past six years or so. Have a look guys.

15 Aug 2018 21:10:17
Thanks OAB, interesting reading.

84 and only a team full kept. The money wasted on potential must be horrendous.

15 Aug 2018 18:41:46
Let's be honest, Brendan has been let down big time. He should have been given some proper funds to sort out what is, let's be honest, a total mess. Now look where we find ourselves, 2 weeks left of the window and he's still using that sh*te phone that makes a new post every time 😂.

15 Aug 2018 18:48:06
Haha Kev 😂😂 belter.

15 Aug 2018 19:02:59
😂😂 love it Kev.

15 Aug 2018 19:07:43
Brilliant😂😂😂.

15 Aug 2018 19:16:11
Class Kev 😂.

15 Aug 2018 19:25:31
Just waiting for him to reply at the top of the page now haha.

15 Aug 2018 19:56:55
His reply has went onto Ceefax - only jokin Brendan Buddy.

15 Aug 2018 18:17:37
We lost goals from defensive mistakes no denying that. Mistakes at the back have been our Achilles heel for so long now in Europe. Being positive away from home in Europe we dictated the majority of play and on another night we’re through. It seems to be overlooked how young this team actually is already back to back treble winners and I’m confident of another. These bhoys will only get better with experience we’re at the start of a new season and yes we’re disappointed but let’s get behind them there will be more to cheer about than moan about 🍀.

15 Aug 2018 20:34:57
We will win another treble if we can get the Unity Back with in club . Since BR made his stupid public remark we have lost two and drawn one . Brendan may or may not have plenty of reason to be very disappointed with PL dithering, however we should have sorted the matter privately, as now it seems to me we are split up and down the club and players probably feel part of split .
We will win nothing until we are back as one.

15 Aug 2018 17:21:33
Brendan has a history of looking at all around him when things don't go his way.
we have to look at the signings he has made and im sure most of us will agree that they are not good.

15 Aug 2018 17:48:36
You also need to look at how much players like Brown, Tierney and McGregor have improved under him.

15 Aug 2018 17:59:58
Yeah definitely Kev.

However I do think Rodgers shouldn’t be identifying players. Our scouting process should do that. And if they do it right then they will improve the team and in turn Rodgers will improve them.

15 Aug 2018 18:00:28
That doesn't count Kev that's a positive.

15 Aug 2018 18:28:33
Either congerton is putting players forward and getting no where with Pedro or he's no doing his job.

15 Aug 2018 18:59:01
A wee bit worrying for me is our inability to see problems right away and fix them - or even switch things around when we struggle.
BR was always quick to make a change in shape or personnel if things weren't going our way; but our last three games have seen us get into difficulty or have players under-performing and wait until too late.

15 Aug 2018 20:51:27
Brendan has wakened up SMSM and has allowed them to have all sorts of pot shots . Various players leaving and even Manager B R in the way out . Clubs results must fail when such splits and divisions exist.

15 Aug 2018 13:52:32
Apparently Brendan had made 17 sign ings since took over haven't included loans as they aren't ours although paddy was a great signing
Successes failures not sure

Moussa kouassi Morgan
Eddy de vries hendry
Ntcham COMPPER christie
Toure gamboa
Sinclair hayes
Bain.

15 Aug 2018 15:00:55
Only 4 have been a success. moussa, eddy, N'tcham, sinclair and maybe Bains. that's not really good enough.

15 Aug 2018 15:21:22
out of all his “failure signings “ only Kouassi and hendryl cost over a million . I would look at it that when you are going to buy basement buys the chances are they are not going to work out. Just maybe that’s why he said he only wanted quality for a few positions. He probably took a punt on Hendry as he is fast and it’s one of the things modern centre backs need now, although I never wanted him . So if look at it that maybe Kouassi is the only bad signing for decent money. When you are scraping around the bottom of the barrel, you are more than likely going to pick up crap.

15 Aug 2018 17:38:17
Maybe the board are looking at the money already paid out plus increase in wages and saying enough is enough. If that's the case BR may give it one more year, however we have not been at our best for months. From january till the end of the sesson in all competitions we won 14 out of 23 games. That was not great. On Tuesday only 2 BR signings started the game. Hendry and N'tcham. I know Dembele and Eddy were injured so 4 would have started but BR has bought 17 players since he joined so where are the other 13? We have spent £25mill on transfer fees alone and only 2 players out of that £25mill start. The rest were RD signings or players at club before he took over. These are not great stats. He has very much improved players who were there but 17 signed who by and large are not in contention for a starting slot!

15 Aug 2018 18:14:18
So what are you saying you don't think BR is the man to take us forward?
I for one think he is But saying that I would love to see who was on his wish list for the opening of this window I can't beleave he did not have some defenders on there And if so its the boards fault and if not then its BRs.

15 Aug 2018 21:00:58
Tonybhoy not saying BR should not take us forward. Facts are facts. Spent £25mill. Bought 17 players. Now if he had not bought Eddy its 16 players for £16mill, so paying peanuts you know what you get. Therein lies a potential problem. Not enough quality. The other fact, winning 14 out of 23 games. Do you think that's good or not? Now answer your own question.

15 Aug 2018 21:04:02
Every time you take a punt on a player, it costs the club money, . These all build up and players that are punted in , have to be judged quickly and those not making it moved on . Brendan said when he came he liked a small squad, but our ist team squad is too full of players we don't need or use.

15 Aug 2018 21:22:22
Larsson cost £650k, Moravcik cost 300k! Its about having the ability to spot a player👍.

15 Aug 2018 12:57:01
Here's a list of players that will send shivers down your spine that we've had in fairly recent years.
Olivier Kapo
Holmber Fridjohnson
Steven Mouyokolo
Mo Bangura
Kazim Richards
Carlton Cole
Tyler Blackett
Stefan Scepovic
Teemu Pukki
Amido Balde
Mubarak Wakaso
Jo Inge Berget
Alexandar Tonev

Christ no wonder we're scared to go into the transfer market😂😂.

15 Aug 2018 13:03:20
How could I miss out Derk the tampon Boerrigter 😣.

15 Aug 2018 13:24:41
You better put Rogic on that list to keep the Dark Knight happy 😊.

15 Aug 2018 13:25:42
I was trying to think of Wakasos name the other night where did he end up? Mouyokolo 😂 Well remembered that!

15 Aug 2018 13:35:05
Mubarak Wakaso? Plays for deportivo alaves.

He wasn’t actually a bad player, he scored an absolute belter for us against Salzburg.

15 Aug 2018 13:36:28
Add to that - DDV, Gamboa, Hendry, Commper, Kouassi, Benyu, Hayes. I wonder what the bunnet would have said to any of his managers if they came to him with a list that had any the names mentioned on it😂😂.

15 Aug 2018 15:04:08
I mind Wakasos goal against Salzburg Andy it was a belter. He had some pace if I mind right but so has Usain Bolt to be fair 🤣.

15 Aug 2018 15:36:18
If I mind right Lennon spoke very highly of Steven Mouyokolo.
Did he not get a bad injury that basically killed his Celtic career?

15 Aug 2018 16:29:44
Not sure if we got him Kev after his big injury that’s why he was a free.

15 Aug 2018 12:15:33
Just a mention on Boyata, which respectable club would touch a guy who is willing to down tools a fake injury to force a move to another club? If he does it once there is always a chance he will do it again. I've heard people say let him train with the kids, imo that's disrespectful to the kids. Let him train by himself like the diddy he actually is. HH.

15 Aug 2018 12:27:23
Happens all the time MD7. Big van dyjk went on strike and moved for 75 million. Other clubs encourage it sometimes.

15 Aug 2018 13:37:05
Very True, all integrity in football is sadly gone!

15 Aug 2018 12:00:10
Oh well Europa league here we come (hopefully) .

I’m okay with playing in the Europa, in fact I would probably prefer to see us play there since we will be a lot more competitive. I don’t care about the money we have, I’d rather see us winning games.

Despite that, there’s huge disappointment around last night. Because we should have hammered them.

It seems the defence has taken the blame again, even from Rodgers. I’m not so convinced. Yes we conceded poor goals. But how on earth are we only scoring 2 goals over 2 legs? We should be taking 3 or 4 off them at home and then another 1 or 2 away.

So who is to blame? It seems the board is getting a lot of stick. Again I’m not sure on that one. We should be beating teams like that with the team we had out. It’s not like AEK are big spenders.

It’s hard to put blame on a guy that’s won us a double treble and qualified for the CL twice in a row. I do feel Rodgers has some part to play. If we played both legs the way we played the last half an hour we would have went through comfortably. But Rodgers stuck with the same style and it was all too slow and indirect. How many corners did we have last night? Does Rodgers ever practise these in training?

It also came down to our poor recruitment. We have players like ntcham, Tierney, Edouard and dembele, they are our superstars who we know are capable of playing at a higher level. But we’re being let down by players like Forrest, Gordon, Lustig possibly even rogic who look out of place at this level.

Why hasn’t Rodgers identified these players to be replaced? Or has he?

Over two legs I do feel it was the players fault. Although there wasn’t enough directness in our play, Rodgers still set the team up well enough that we had the majority of the ball and spent most of it round their box. That’s where a good AM and RW could have made a difference.

The positives for me-
I thought Hendry played well last night and I think these games will help him improve.
Sinclair scoring a great goal will hopefully give him a confidence boost, would love to see him get in the box more.
Rodgers will hopefully recognise that going direct can work as well.

Sorry for the length, it’s not all bad guys. Looking forward to seeing what we can do in the Europa.

15 Aug 2018 11:18:23
Everyone has dissected last nights game, lambasted the Board and discussed the teams shortcomings and where we have AGAIN failed to strengthen in key areas.
Many, many valid observations and points have been written - so I won't enlarge on them.
My biggest worry, is we have won only one, of our last five games and that is a crisis at any club, never mind the double treble winners and best team in Scotland.
This is by far the worst period of results/ performances under BR so far and it not only means no CL (prestige or cash) , but it gives optimism and encouragement to rivals, detractors and snipers and EVERYONE at Celtic Park needs to screw the nut, have a long look in the mirror and pull in the same direction to sort this out.

15 Aug 2018 12:20:31
Once a Bhoy, good post. If you go back to January last year and add those results into this year, our performances and points gained is pretty poor. We have continued this season the same way we were going from last season, and that was backwards. Yes we won the Scottish cup but over the last 10 SPL games we didn’t score goals and dropped a lot of points compared to the year before.

However, what’s done is done. We lost last night and teams do lose. It’s dissapointing but we have to move on. Here is the concern. Celtic’s wage structure is much higher now under BR than it was before he got here. If you look at last seasons accounts and now take out the £25mill CL cash, this season Celtic will post a loss, unless we have a very deep run in Europa. I am assuming we get £7mill for Boyata, who has to go, and maybe another £2mill from other sales. However that money and maybe more needs to go into the team. PL does not want to post a loss, so, does he release any more funds for BR? I have no idea if Hendry, Hayes, Morgan etc were wanted by BR or not. They however are average SPL players. So has BR been handcuffed all this time by players being bought for him, or is his recruitment poor? Kouassi is another we paid £3mill for and is no where near the player we thought we were buying. I think that’s a sore point for PL. we maybe spend £3mill and the player still does not make it. Having seen what players BR has brought in or the club has brought in, is there a reluctance from PL to commit additional funds? We are about to find out.

The talk of waiting till the EPL window closes to allow us to buy is totally flawed. That was never a strategy. That was Celtic fans finding a reason as to why we had not brought in players upto now. Lustig has gone. Ajar and Hendry are still very young. Comper will never play a part, another BR signing. (who knows) . A massive risk was taken with Boyata, not getting him signed up before World Cup. He should have been punted as soon as he came back and the money used to bring in a competent CB, another mistake. McGinn, another error. Griffiths is no where near what he was, due probably to lack of game time. Sinclair off the boil but better last night. Rogic, who I have championed on here before, well what can I say. Not showed up this season. (Rogic get the finger out as I have a bet with Kev83) . So all is not well in Paradise. We also need to get more out of what we already have, so the players need to step up.

What we need to do and this is critical to the rest of the season. PL must release significant funds. BR needs to get the recruitment right. No more projects, buy players that can make a difference. We need a deep run in Europa, to do that we need players and the right players. We need to go on and win, not draw, but win the next 10 games, including Europa qualifiers and the Rangers game which is now massive. An for those who come on and say Rangers or Hearts are not a problem, go away. Hearts were not a problem, AEK were not a problem, really? The players never turned up on both AEK games. The refusal to try and carry the ball past the opposing player and wanting to take the option to pass it back then to the side is always going slow is down and cause our own problem. That is something for BR to resolve, but the players have not turned up for the last part of last season or this season so far, so Rangers and are a danger. We are not playing well enough to dismiss anyone. We give them 3 points and we give them momentum, something we are lacking right now.

The CL is done for this season, but if we take action as a club and BR and the players get on with it, we can still have a great season, but it starts today. Brendan, we know you are frustrated about lack of activity but leave it out now, we all know. PL, are you going to make matters better or worse.

15 Aug 2018 13:08:53
The waiting for the English window to close wasn’t just flawed it was disastrous. We were out before anybsigning from that, even if we bought any, wouldn’t have been able to help. Anybody who peddled that as a good thing really need to wake up and realise we need players in early or this happens.

Be interesting to see also these great more affordable players coming in now from the source that all those cited as the way forward actually turning up.

That’s not our market and to think it was shows a lack of grasp of reality. We can’t match wages never mind the inflated fees. Delusional.

15 Aug 2018 10:46:15
Reading some of the posts down the page many are mentioning spending money and get back challenging in CL. Those days are gone, we don't have the free income i. e either a sugar daddy to throw obscene amounts of cash at us or a tv deal to throw similar at us. If we spent every penny we have on transfers it wouldn't make a huge difference to the success we're currently having, ok we might win the league by 30 points instead of 15. I find it incredible that people think it's that simple to compete with the massive spending sides we are paupers when it comes to CL level. Playing devils advocate here just say we spent 30 or 40 million last month, a fortune in our world but not a lot in today's game and failed to qualify for CL, where does that leave us? those players still have to be paid their 50 grand a week for beating Dundee, StMirren, Livi etc for remainder of season. Yeah I want a few signings in but to talk of trying to compete at CL level is nonsense and dissing the Europa league as a crap tournament is baffling, this is where we belong at the moment whether we like it or not.

15 Aug 2018 10:58:07
Stevie we spent that kind of cash on transfers and wages when Martin O'Neill was manager and we got to a European final. It's ambition. Spend and reap the rewards on and off the park.

15 Aug 2018 11:05:58
To be honest Stevie l agree with you that Celtic can't spend stupid money on players. We don't have that kind of finance to buy the very top u need to compete against the top sides. However l do think we should be able to get players at a better standard then what's there at the min especially in the defence. I said in last year's champions league that we are simple making up the numbers like most teams in pot 3 and 4. We will still need players in especially the defence which gives up goals to even the poorest side in the Scotland. Apologies if l am wrong but l think Celtic have only had one clean sheet in the last 5 matches. The Europa league has some serious sides in it and will be a serious test if we can qualify for the group stages.

15 Aug 2018 11:06:38
Too sensible. Come back after the window is shut and silly season is over with comments like that young man.

15 Aug 2018 11:11:07
Stan other teams were not paying
200 million for players or give 300 thousand a week in wages in Martin oneills day.

Do you really think we could have got players like
Sutton
Hartson
Lennon for 6 million now a days?

Not a chance.

A bhoy out of psg reserves costs 9 million.

15 Aug 2018 11:12:17
Stevie agree with what’s been said, although with better scouting we wouldn’t need £40 million and we could at least put up a better showing. To look at some good buying over the years Lubo, Henrik, mjallby, Agatha, VVD, Wanyama, Forster, Hooper, Petrov, Ledley, Matthews, mulgrew, etc there's > 10 players and all for less than £20m and I think most would agree we would get a few results.

It’s not what we spend eg Raphael £5m, it’s who.

Man City, PSG, Man Utd etc all spent £100s millions and still not got success in Europe so it’s not the route to go down.

Another point, BR seemed to have full control of signings with Congerton. Perhaps with so many BR players not playing the board have got involved. From DDV, Gambia, Comper, Benyu, etc a lot has been spent on wages for what reason? Maybe it’s as Mourinho says managers are now just head coaches.

Get the scouts to earn their corn.

15 Aug 2018 11:30:25
I couldn't care less what other clubs do kev. That's the problem currently infesting our club comparing what others do. Maybe if we focused on ourselves we would be in a better place. Always the poor little us defeatist attitude in this country.

15 Aug 2018 11:31:42
Jsean you could add Dembele, Armstrong, Ntcham, Sinclair, Griffiths and Rogic to that list of decent scouting not costing a fortune.

15 Aug 2018 11:33:23
It's a realist attitude Stan.

15 Aug 2018 11:37:40
Stan of coarse what other clubs can do is important.
We are all in the same market for players.

So we invest say 30 million.
What does it get you when youth players now cost 9 million?

Average players are costing 20 million


The days of getting seasoned pro's for 5 or 6 million are gone.

15 Aug 2018 11:42:39
To people with no ambition it is.

15 Aug 2018 11:52:08
There are plenty of places to go find talented players. U don't have to go to the over rated and over prices premier league to find players kev. Look at VVD and big Victor as a example.

15 Aug 2018 12:43:28
Ter 161 both VVD and Victor were not quality experienced champions league players.

And that is what people like Stan are calling for.
They don't want under a million 20 year old players that are prospects.
They don't want 22 year old 3 million pound gambles that haven't won anything and are inexperienced

They want players that have been there and done it.

We would never have had van djyk or big Victor if some of the fans on here were incharge.

15 Aug 2018 13:10:57
Did i say get rid of the 'projects' we have? No. If we added quality experienced players to play alongside the 'projects' we currently have then we might have done better.

Kev all you are doing is naming the 'projects' who made us cash. How about naming the list that never kicked a ball.

15 Aug 2018 13:51:47
I didn't name anyone. It was other people that named players.
I just informed them that they players didn't fall into the category of players you want to sign.

15 Aug 2018 15:14:00
Kev reading your posts we may as well just pack it in. AEK are not a great side. We should beat them. We are not asking for £20mill players but over the last 18 months we have not strengthened at the back. We are weaker than last season as a whole but when a poster mentions that you argue we are stronger than last year because players have improved? Who is better than last year? We need additions.

15 Aug 2018 21:16:40
Stan, To spend the equivalent nowadays to get that quality of player like Sutton, Hartson, Thompson and Lennon you would be looking at over 100 million . Not mentioning O'Neil inheriting Larsson.

15 Aug 2018 10:21:03
Dermot Desmond is 67 years old, worth an alleged 2.04 billion.
He is, if i'm reliably informed, a Celtic fan.

Why oh why won't he invest more money in our team and buy us the defence we so badly need?

Every single one of us if in the same well earned position would pump millions into the team.

15 Aug 2018 10:39:33
Is he allowed to just pump money into the side?

15 Aug 2018 10:43:15
He could have atleast bought the disco lights JT 😂.

15 Aug 2018 10:56:08
That might be allowed Stan, I'm not sure :-D I'm not saying the club doesn't have more to spend - in fact the opposite. But I thought the idea behind FFP was that the money had to be 'earned' by the club, and that people like DD couldn't just throw their own money at it. There might be ways around it (something fishy about Etihad and City for me) .

15 Aug 2018 11:15:45
Why should he throw his money in Just because he's rich?

Why not ask every share holder to pump in their life saving?

15 Aug 2018 11:17:25
Where did PSG get the 400 million for 2 players then?

{Ed007's Note - They didn't, remember Mbappe joined them on loan last summer because if they had bought him then they would have failed FFP.}

15 Aug 2018 12:32:56
It's plain for all to see. Etihad are sponsoring City for ludicrous amounts as a way of bypassing FFP. It's the same with all these loan-to-buy deals for guys like Mbappe. Get him now but pay the mega fee later because you've already paid one mega fee this year.

{Ed007's Note - Spot on, Kev.}

15 Aug 2018 08:19:29
Time to accept our place in European football at the moment. We are Europa League level at best. That is not going to change under the current Board. They have a strategy/ model that is based on finding young talent and selling them to make cash. Celtic is being run as a business not a football club. Having cash in the bank is more important to them than ambition on the park. We may have won back to back trebles but we should be so far ahead of the rest that we are uncatchable, sadly that is not the case and i have taken the green tinted specs off to admit to that. BR has again spoke out about his frustrations at not spending prior to these qualifiers and quite rightly so he has been let down by a Board who do this every season gamble in the hope we make it. Well last night it has come back to bite them in the erse and it's going to cost us a fortune, all it will do is keep us at the same level as the rest rather than widening the gap. As Sutton said they were more interested in Disco lights for a competition they would even compete in. Is this strategy/ model going to take us forward? It won't at European level so let's end this big club talk. I have bit my tongue this last 2 years regarding the people running our club as BR was an appointment they got right, again sadly though they have let the man down. I for one would not care if PL and DD left. They would be replaced with ease, and by people who's ambitions were the same as the people who actually put cash into the Club not take from it. They have fooled us all into believing their "but look what happened to Rangers" talk. Yes look at them, spending more than us on no CL cash, no player sales cash, no kit cash. We spent cash to compete under O'Neill and we thrived! . I now hope that in my lifetime we have a Celtic run by different people, ambitious men who want Celtic back where they belong competing and holding their own at fortress Celtic Park in the CL. Nothing this lot do from now until the end of August will change anything the damage is done. One gamble too many by this lot. Players and Managers are sacked or sold for failure.

15 Aug 2018 09:43:03
Stan - I said last week we where out and the green tinted brigade said no, teams ok, players will sign with 3 weeks left in window

Big change in opinions now from a lot, domestic success isn’t exciting anymore as there are no challenges even with the state of this current defence we still clean up

European progress is where excitement comes from and we’ve blown it, Europa will be rubbish, lot of big clubs play weakened teams until the very late stages and for transfers now, any new signings if there is any will be projects or loans at best

Wouldn’t be surprised if BR left at end of the season and I don’t blame him.

15 Aug 2018 09:55:39
Kev as you know i went and enjoyed my summer and thought by the time i came back on here to give judgement things would be different. Nothing, not one signing. I stand corrected. Will the board make up the shortfall of no CL cash? Nah that will be left to the fans who bought season tickets and merchandise, players being sold and the dafabet cash. We need new investement and a new direction.

15 Aug 2018 10:01:16
Still can't understand the boards philosophy they know if they spend even say 15.mill that there's 40 mill eating on them can't get my head round it.

15 Aug 2018 10:03:32
Playing in a one horse league like ours means we will never compete in Europe! The hysteria on here suggests we were expecting to win the Champions League! Newsflash we won't even win the Europa League. European ties will always be bonus games👍.

15 Aug 2018 10:07:42
Mally it's their pathetic "but look what happened to Rangers" attitude.

15 Aug 2018 10:13:32
What utter shoite malky! There’s not one person suggesting we would the CL or even get near winning the EL for that matter! What a pointless post that is honestly! Playing in a one horse league had bugger all to do with going out to a poor AEK team pal, bringing in decent defenders is why we’re out! If we had a solid defence over those 2 games we would have qualified with little problems against that mob, simple as that!

15 Aug 2018 10:15:28
Malky did you see the clubs Ed posted last night who we could face in the Europa. We will struggle to win a game never mind win it. Plenty clubs competing who play in one horse leagues but they either get huge amounts of tv cash or their owners invest heavily on new players. We have neither.

15 Aug 2018 10:16:17
Good post Stan, couldn’t have put it better myself bud 👍🏼.

15 Aug 2018 10:22:01
So everything is ok? Thecway we become a CL team us to invest. That’s the omission. No balls, no ambition and we are now a reflection of that utter cowardice. We know where we are. We also know that to move up we need to invest in more than feckin disco lights.

When you are led by dithering rubbishebags our team reflects that. No one should have been surprised, apart from the happy clappers telling us it would be ok. We will get the players, trust Lawell to get the best deals.

How is that working out? It’s nit negative to point out a pathetic strategy of hope. A few hail mary’s Or saying keep the faith is bullrubbish. We are were we are because we have men devoid of ambition. That’s always been our problem and until these Sheep are driven out we will always be the same.

We aren’t even guaranteed to have players in for the EL playoff. How anybody can defend that board for that is beyond me. That’s taking forelock tugging to levels to new depths. It doesn’t make you a better fan because you see no wrong. The opposite is true.

15 Aug 2018 12:39:26
The quality we need to compete at the top end of European football simply won't come to a one horse league unless we can offer Champions League football which we can't guarentee as we need to play 4 qualifiers! why is that so difficult to grasp? If you want to blame anyone blame BR for his awful record in the transfer market. It wasn't Lawell that wanted De Vries, Gamboa, Hendry, Ajer ( a mid to play at CB) , Hayes, Commper, Kouassi, Benyu etc Rodgers has had 5 windows to fix that defence but sells Sviatchenko as he favoured Boyata. Some are pointing the finger at the wrong person! I'm glad Peter Lawell is running the club and not most on here. Didn't BR have Odebayo on trial during pre season but decided against signing him? Remind me how Lustig got on last night? Blame lies squarely at the managers feet👍.

15 Aug 2018 13:09:21
My posts have more point to them than most of the hystetical ramblings on here! The board have backed the manager to suggest otherwise when we smashed our transfer record on Edouard for £9m is nonsense especially when the board signed 3 defenders at BR's request - Gamboa, Hendry, Commper!

15 Aug 2018 21:15:33
I've said before.
If a player of quality does not want to come then we have no control over that.
If the club was to announce all the failed attempts to sign players, we would look a right bunch of persons and be torn apart by media and sevco lot.
Hearts beat us so I guess they must have better players, let's go buy half their team. Now, we all know that was a stupid statement but you get my drift.

I want quality and not just a signing who I might be bitching about as a waste of money that could have been used on someone else.
I don't believe the Board are sitting on their cash pile refusing to spend it. (The more we spend on investment including players, the less we give the taxman)

15 Aug 2018 06:37:02
Don't envy your work Ed having to read all the garbage that's being written it must be horrendous it's amazing all those that have came out the woodwork and those who aren't bothered about football all of a sudden know celtic got beat. Last nights gone it's about how we now move forward as a team. We all know we are weak at RB and Centre Half we have also lost Armstrong who chipped in with a few goals so he needs replaced PR done nothing last season and I'm happy he won't be returning. Good luck to the bhoy. It's over to the board now do they trust BR with money or do they want to rest and hope we somehow win the league again in danger of the team stagnating.

15 Aug 2018 09:06:35
Surely it was over to the board last month. In football there is not much point being reactive, it’s usually too late by then.

15 Aug 2018 09:29:54
I’ve not seen much garbage written on here. What I find strange is the reluctance of some people ( not all ) that don’t like critisism. That starting 11 last night had 9 players that all played under RD. That to me isn’t a team with rodgers stamp on it. Sure he’s came in, some players have stepped their game up but others haven’t. Everyone accepts this is the double treble winners, invincible etc, that will never be taken away from them but at a competitive European level they’re not good enough especially in defence. 3 goals over 2 legs AEK scored and everyone of them was handed on a plate. The defence is rotten it’s that simple. Gamboa, been here 2 years and can’t get in ahead of a poor lustig, jozo not good enough and clearly isn’t rated by rodgers when hendry and ajer both with limited European experience play ahead of him. The only quality defender we have is Tierney. Boyata is an out and our disgrace. What does Lee Congerton bring to the table? 2 years that clowns been here and for all we’ve brought in ntcham, Sinclair, dembele ( who I think was on RD’s radar anyway) and now Edouard. He’s also had a hand in bringing in de vries, hendry, gamboa, comper, not one decent defender amongst them. Never mind looking at more midfielders/ strikers 2 new Cb’s a RB are a necessity ASAP. and if this is me hitting the panic button etc then fine, Celtic fans don’t need the press to point out our failings, they’re glaring obvious for all to see.

15 Aug 2018 10:31:59
Gerry we have all been crying out for a RB and a CH for a few seasons if we can all see it surely BR and the board can. Who’s to say Lee Congerton or BR have not identified targets and the board have not went after them? Celtic never strengthen when we are on top it’s as if we wait for teams to improve. Some of BR signings have been terrible but not every signing will be a success. RB CH And Attacking Mid for me, Rogic is not European level.

15 Aug 2018 10:56:18
Campsie hoy your right, Celtic over the years are renowned for not building on success, but like you say and everyone knows, we’ve been screaming out for a solid if not 2 CB’s for long enough, we’ve been screaming out for a new RB, are we seriously expected to believe we can afford £9 million on an untried 20 year old striker but have no money to strengthen that defence? I’m sorry but the way Brendan goes on about boyata you’d think he was his love child, boyata is a bombscare of a defender and always has been from the day he arrived at the club, and if that’s the best that we can attract to Celtic then boy we really are in trouble.

15 Aug 2018 15:24:01
Rangers have no monry but hsve still managed to give SG something like £6mill to nuy new players on top of £8mill given to Pedro last year. Our net spend is well below Rangers.

15 Aug 2018 06:31:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th August 2018

15 Aug 2018 00:24:02
Lets just calm it with the goodbye 8iar posts, justified, but daft.

15 Aug 2018 08:13:20
Justified but daft. 😂.