Celtic Banter Archive April 15 2021

15 Apr 2021 22:17:52
Thanks for having me tonight bhoys. Really enjoyed. Was a welcome break from the monotony of hotel life working away. For anyone nervous about getting involved don’t be I was tbh but when your on it really is just a phone call chat with a couple of mates you forget that your on live.

{Ed007's Note - No thank you for coming - especially rushing back to do it - and you know you're welcome any time mate 👍 #OldestUltraInTown 😘

15 Apr 2021 22:34:43
You were brilliant tonight Welshy 👍.

15 Apr 2021 23:07:37
Welshy thanks for coming on bud and rushing back to come on straight after work.
Hail Hail Welshy.

16 Apr 2021 06:38:18
Super job welshy 👍.

16 Apr 2021 06:45:54
was a wee bit nervous myself welshy bhoy but started to ease up as show went on. great podcast mate COYBIG.

15 Apr 2021 23:37:05
Well done mate it was a great listen.

18 Apr 2021 09:57:19
You were fab Welshy was great to listen in.

15 Apr 2021 17:0:00

We are recording a new podcast at 7 o'clock (19:00 CPT) tonight and it would be great if you could join us by clicking HERE
Unfortunately Besty is unable to be on the show again but we have Welshbhoy on to stand in for tonight and Besty will be back for the next show.

We'll be talking about season book renewals, the three of will give our top 5 "legends" since Larsson and our First XI's of the 9 in a row era plus the usual chat/questions from the live chat.

We're planning something a bit different on Sunday and I'll put the details up on here tomorrow morning.

We're now just over 330 subscribers so thanks very much to everyone who has subscribed to the channel and if you haven't yet then please do and you can find links to all our platforms etc HERE. HH

15 Apr 2021 18:06:43
Looking forward to it ed.

{Ed007's Note - Good man, Ter. Welshy might not be able to make it so if there's anyone who fancies coming on at short notice if he can't please let me know.
Oh and another thing, I've got a stack of emails to answer, sorry I've hardly had a minute today but I will get back to you.}

15 Apr 2021 18:30:44
I’m looking forward to the podcast.
I would put Lennon, Petrov, Hartson and Sutton as the same era as Larsson.
So my 5 legends since Larsson would be
Scott Brown, James Forrest, Mikel Lustig, Callum McGregor and Nakamura.
Taking into account Wanyama, Hooper and Dembele ( still picked him ) where only at Celtic for 2 seasons each in our 9 in a row.
Forster
Lustig Van Dyke Ajer KT
Forrest Brown Calmac Sinclair
Dembele Edouard.
That lineup shows Celtic still have a decent team, with 5 current Celtic players in my 9 in a row team.

15 Apr 2021 18:36:29
Mark, even though I can't commit to taking part this evening I will certainly have it blaring in the background. I may even throw up a few comments if I have time. Keep the show on the road and I'll definitely be back on Sunday evening. HH.

{Ed007's Note - Good man, Besty, work comes first mate 👍

15 Apr 2021 20:54:13
Well done again tonight Paul, Mark and welshy. Very enjoyable as always lads. Top stuff 👍.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Ter. When are you coming on?}

15 Apr 2021 21:17:10
Thanks a million Ter. Wait till you guys see what we have planned for Sunday. It will be a belter.

15 Apr 2021 21:18:14
Another good show tonight Bhoys, thank you one and all.

For me the word 'legend' gets thrown about these day's like confetti at a wedding, therefore, I'll pass on this era.

Welshy enjoyed listening to your views, nice one.

{Ed007's Note - I agree, Pedro that's why I went for length of service, trophies won etc. C'mon I picked James Forrest 😁

15 Apr 2021 21:26:39
Well l picked the one ye all forgot in Jackie mc namara. Great servant of the club. Not sure l have the courage to come on pal. Might destroy your show 🤣🤣.

{Ed007's Note - I'm gutted I forgot him lol. Ter, if I can do it ANYONE can, just forget that there's people listening or going to listen and it's like talking to your mates on the phone. I don't listen to them back because that would get me para and probably chuck it but my family and friends can't believe what I'm doing and the encouragement from them and all of you is giving me more confidence which I hope is coming across on the pod. You don't need to help host but if you ever want on for 10-15 mins to air your view just let me know.}

15 Apr 2021 21:40:49
Great Show Bhoys, I am loving the discussions, A lot of effort and preparation definitely going in. It’s a great listen.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks, Mal and you know you can come on anytime. 🙏

15 Apr 2021 21:52:24
Cheers Ed. Maybe one day! It comes across very well pal. And u and Paul sound like you have been doing it a long time. Keep it going pal u r flying. Take care and God bless.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate 🙏

15 Apr 2021 21:55:18
Hahahahaha James Forrest, he's made a career at being bang average for approx 3 and a bit years of his deal and then a world beater for the few months leading up to signing a new contract 4 year contract 😉.

{Ed007's Note - I should have went for Jackie, I apologise lol that's me paying for the coffee at the Schoenstatt then 🤦‍♂️

15 Apr 2021 22:04:55
Ed, did you go to Holy Cross or John Ogilvie?

{Ed007's Note - Holy Cross.}

15 Apr 2021 22:07:55
Jackie, what a player.

{Ed007's Note - 👍

15 Apr 2021 22:38:36
Cool 😎.

15 Apr 2021 23:42:49
Pedro my wife went to ogilvie, what age are u mate.

16 Apr 2021 13:09:47
My 9 in a row team would be:

FOrster

Lustig VVD Ajer Tierney

Brown Wanyama

Forrest Edouard Sinclair

Dembele

I just thought Wanyama was a terrific player and you don't see many midfielders boss Xavi.

15 Apr 2021 13:00:27
Hi guys ed i know a few of you have IPTV, was wondering if anyone gets buffering problems.
I just upgraded my internet and get over 100 mbps. When i test the IPTV its only at 25-35.
Any help would be much appreciated esp before the derby this weekend lol.

{Ed007's Note - Welshy's your man for this stuff. Are you in the DISCORD group?}

15 Apr 2021 13:22:17
Thanks ed i just joined. Must admit im a bit of a dino i've never heard of it lol.

{Ed007's Note - It's just like a chat room mate or leave a message for someone.}

15 Apr 2021 14:09:33
Use windscribe vpn and iptv works perfect with it. Costs about £40 a year.

15 Apr 2021 14:41:19
Plenty of places to get the games for free instead of paying for them.
I joined the discord group but it keeps saying I can't comment as the account is unclaimed.

15 Apr 2021 15:16:41
Go into settings and the app you use click on it and clear cache as I have to do that and it really does help a lot rayman 👍🏻.

15 Apr 2021 15:32:46
rayman. it depends who your internet provider is. i am thinking you are with sky.

15 Apr 2021 17:38:33
BT im with rob. Thanks for all your help guys esp welshy. Disabling the vpn seems to have worked.

15 Apr 2021 17:43:50
Rayman if your package with your provider is 100mbs that will be the top speed achieved through a hard wired connection. ie an ethernet cable.

If your IPTV is on a device that connects via WiFi then your speed is likely to be around half of your max speed.

That being said any speed over 10mbs should be plenty to stream a game of footy.

A lot can depend of the quality of the Iptv service you subscribe to. They can differ greatly from provider to provider.

If any of your mates or family use the same provider check with them how their quality is. If its ok with them then you know its a problem on your end with the connection.

I'm guessing your with VM based on the speed. Log in to your online account and turn off the safe settings. This will help also. Make sure you are reseting the router every couple of days (just pull plug out for a few mins) . Also make sure you are also clearing the cache from the device on which the iptv is installed.

15 Apr 2021 10:03:24
I'm sure everyone of a certain age remembers the horrific Hillsbrough disaster.

However, does anyone remember the charity match after it between Celtic and Liverpool at Celtic Park?

I recall the day well, although I was still a teenager. I remember going on the Celtic supporters bus from Springburn and there being loads of Liverpool fans with us on the supporters bus.

I was in the jungle that day and I remember at half time, everyone was just throwing money onto the pitch and the ball boys were going round with buckets and picking it up.

Also vaguely recall Dalglish scoring, although it looked like we let him.

{Ed007's Note - I remember that match, NAW (😂) and I actually done an interview on Liverpool TV a few years back about it during their anniversary show.}

15 Apr 2021 10:28:43
Was at the game with my father, brother and my son, the image that sticks in my mind was how feckin thick were John Barnes thighs, they were like my waist 😂😂.

15 Apr 2021 10:32:43
What springburn bus was that naw, I used to get on the broomy bus (broomfield tavarn) with my uncle when I was a boy.

15 Apr 2021 10:40:29
Remember it well, it was Liverpool’s first time back on any pitch after the disaster.

15 Apr 2021 11:12:05
NAW

I was at that game too and was in the jungle as well you should have waved to me.

The atmosphere was something else when you’ll never walk alone was sung. The famous painting of the two wee laddies facing each other on the half way line with their heads bowed one wearing a Liverpool jersey and the other wearing the hoops used to hang in the trophy room.

I wonder if that painting is still displayed at Celtic Park?

15 Apr 2021 11:43:12
@Cowabunga - I was on the Bells bus that day but sometimes got the bus from The Broomfield or the Celtic Club.

I bet your uncle knows my dad as he was part of the furniture at the Broomfield tavern. I know my dad's cousin, think his name was Billy Brown used to run one of the buses as he used to get tickets for my brother and me for the big matches.

15 Apr 2021 12:58:28
Guys I was in the Jungle that day also, my pals and I never stood anywhere else, we must have been within feet of each other back then and never knew it lol.
Our supporters bus left from the Wallace Bar in Paisley Road West, Kinning Park the only Tim pub in a Sevconian area.

15 Apr 2021 13:21:54
I was in the Main Stand that day surrounded by Liverpool supporters.
It was a very emotional day.
I was sleeping on the Saturday afternoon and I woke up to the horrendous news of what had happened at Hillsbrough.
I can remember the Celtic fans were still in shock when we played Hibs at Hampden the next day.
I’m proud of how our club and supporters reached out to another magnificent club in their hour of need.

15 Apr 2021 13:25:42
Yea i was in the jungle. Scarves covering both ends behind the goals never seen anythin like it.
Great day and typical of the respect both clubs have for each other.
Reason i followed liverpool was Dalglish going there. Was gutted as a 12 yr old kid. But the man was made for that club.

15 Apr 2021 14:40:02
Maybe naw, my uncle is paul smith ( smidy) used to run the bus for a few years.

15 Apr 2021 00:23:04
Currently I keep hearing people saying we need a complete rebuild from top to bottom.

However, I do not agree with that opinion. Yes, we need a manager. Yes our squad is going to need a decent amount of work with players leaving and some being out of contract.

That being said there is much to be positive about. Hopefully with us hitting a bit of form in recent weeks, people start to realise, actually our team is not as bad as is being made out and they have a good foundation to build on.

In addition, our youth setup is top notch and brings in a lot of talent and develops them. The fact teams like Bayern Munich, Man City and Liverpool are poaching them is testament to that. The problem is not the youth setup, the problem is that managers are not giving the players a chance, which is something we have to address.

On top of that our finances are second to none in Scotland and we have a decent amount in the bank.

Anyway, that is enough optimism from me, I will be back later to moan about not having a manager in place lol.

15 Apr 2021 08:00:56
The problem is that there is no proper set up in Scotland for getting these bhoys the games they need to be ready to set up.
Just throwing these bhoys in to sink or swim do as much damage as good.

15 Apr 2021 09:40:09
Another reason for the Colt squads to be playing in the lower leagues then Kev?

15 Apr 2021 09:42:48
Good point Kev, as they need game time in a competitive environment for their development.

It is unlikely they will get it at Celtic unless they are exceptional talents or exceptional circumstances.

So we either need to have a system in place that gets them game time in the first team, loan them out, get a reserve league or get a colt team, although the later is looking like it won't get off the ground.

15 Apr 2021 10:19:28
NAW, Ice Man made a very strong case when he was on the podcast for not seeing the Colt route as a beneficial route for young lads to get the necessary experience if they are going to come into our first team squad, and as a former professional footballer I do believe that he has a greater insight into the 'real' world of football than most of us.
His point, in summary, was that even if our youngsters were playing in the lower divisions as a team then they are not quite experiencing the rough and tumble of football at the lower levels since they are still cocooned within a big club on a day to day basis. He suggested that our lads need to go and play in the existing lower league teams, get in and around them, share training and dressing rooms with them and learn about the tough side of the game from players who are doing it day in and day out.
I agree, and although that doesn't necessarily make it fact, it sounds like a sensible approach for both our club and the young players to embrace. It could make them tougher and it might even make them appreciate the opportunity they have at Celtic even more to the point where their determination and longer term ambition would improve. HH.

15 Apr 2021 11:10:04
I don't see why the colt teams can't play in the lower leagues all they have to do with them is tell them there is no promotion for the colt teams and they stay in the league I don't know why that would be a problem pay some kind of compo to the Highland league teams who don't get promoted to the lower leagues.

15 Apr 2021 11:31:34
marco, how would you feel about that suggestion if you were a player or manager at a Highland league team who desperately wanted to get into the senior league?
Do you honestly think it's ok to buy them off just because we can? Really? HH.

15 Apr 2021 11:49:15
@Besty - I think it is a moot point on whether or not the colts route would be a benefit to player development as it is looking like a non-starter as 4 clubs in the SPFL has said they are against it and you need a 11 to 1 majority to get it off the ground.

My personal opinion is it would have been of some benefit and certainly one of the pieces of the jigsaw. Be getting them playing competitively, they would have developed to a certain point and then we could have loaned the ones we thought could make it and they would have had a better chance of making it into the starting XI at their loan club.

15 Apr 2021 12:21:27
NAW, any of the lads in our development squad should be able to get regular game time at a lower league club. There are plenty of clubs always looking. If we can't loan them out then should those players even be at Celtic? HH.

15 Apr 2021 12:42:15
I agree with you with regards to the standard of player and I am sure they all do have the talent but they need to have the mentality and attitude to go with it.

Going back to my point, I was meaning to loan them to PL and Championship clubs after they got a bit of experience of playing competitive football at the lower leagues with a colts team. This would have hopefully gave them a taste of what was required and prepare them mentaly as well.

15 Apr 2021 12:52:51
If your good enough age shouldn’t matter. Celtic simply have failed when giving young players a chance. The odd game now and then isn’t good enough, 10 mins a game isn’t good enough.

Welsh is a perfect example, first few games he was to be frank not that good. Regular games has seen an improvement and more games the better he becomes. The issue is he only got a chance due to numerous injuries at the one time otherwise he’d be a bench warmer.

Our new manager needs to be brave and play a youngster and stick with him - playing poorly is part of the learning process and us fans need to do our part and provide support.

After all there is nothing better than watching one of your own play and play well.

15 Apr 2021 13:14:21
You make a good point Kev T2. No-one gets good at anything by not doing it.
I agree that we haven't been particularly good at giving young players a game, especially in recent seasons. What's even more disappointing is that we seem to have been quite content to let some lads stagnate at Celtic without the pro-active approach of getting them game time elsewhere. Most of our young lads should be good enough for SPL teams, never mind lower league but the urgency hasn't been there to let too many of them go. HH.

15 Apr 2021 15:25:07
I agree with sending the youth players on loan in the lower divisions. There could even be a draft system similar to the US where the recently promoted teams get first pick, and so on. That way there’s no negotiations or red tape and everyone gets to benefit. The Championship loan from the Prem, 1st from the Championship and so on. Obviously any left over could go into the lower pot if need be.

15 Apr 2021 22:19:51
For me, the colt team would be best for Celtic and our young players that way we can control how they train, how to play in the system the first team does, and if they could get promoted to the championship they would be playing at a decent level a lot more often than they do now I would also think it would be beneficial to the teams around them with possible higher attendances if and when there is some normalcy again just my opinion doesn't look like happening anyway.