Celtic Banter Archive May 14 2014

 

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14 May 2014 21:50:56
That's 21:39 and Mrs E hasn't mentioned Rangers/Sevco today!

She's probably on their page using another one of her log-ins - or agreeing with herself on here.

Someone really should check over there for any long-winded, pointless and sanctimonious posts about what the Zombies are doing wrong.

In saying that she's probably more comfortable over there, they all think they're better than everyone else too!

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Lmao quality mate lol

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Che I checked all todays posts mate only 1 person has mentioned them can you guess who it is? lol

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Wind your neck in Raymondo, or are you another of Mrs Ego's numerous accounts she uses to back up her own delusions of grandeur?

If anyone on here comes out with the p!sh she does they deserve to be ridiculed.

It was her that started the garbage about people having multiple accounts, the thought of doing that has never crossed my mind, unlike some I suppose.

Who in their right mind uses social media to complain about social media? If you hate it so much then don't use it, nobody cares what you think of it and you just sound hypocritical - sites like this are part of social media and guys that run these type of sites deserve huge credit, not somebody telling them how ridiculous things are.

Why not go and start your own site if you know so much about it and what 'real fans' should be thinking and saying. At least on here everyone gets a say and it is a lot more open than some other forums, it could do without people's egos thinking they are that important that everyone must agree with them and if you don't you are accused of all sorts by the resident ego-tripper who thinks they are some kind of deity to be listened to and obeyed at all times.

I am proud to say that I have the courage of my convictions. I put my own points across without feeling I need acceptance from anyone. If people don't agree with me that's fine but nobody on here is that important in my life for me to care what they think about me, unlike some I suppose.


I find it difficult enough to keep track of my own thoughts never mind pretending to be somebody else.

I remember when she was got on her high horse over anonymous posts disagreeing with her and accusing people of posting multiple messages, now that you need to log-in she thinks she's that important people would register multiple accounts - just to disagree with her!


Remember Mrs Ego's mock outrage when we were debating under-16s going to the football without an adult? She even tried to tell ED007 (where were you tonight sahn? I was looking for you at the CSA meeting.) what he should be doing and demanding post be deleted. Is that normal behaviour on social media from someone who hates social media? She hates the parts she can't control and dictate to. Look back and see who made it personal, throwing round accusations all because her footballing arguments don't hold any water and she couldn't think of anything sensible to say.

Another crackpot cracker is her ALL Celtic's problems are down to us missing Rangers and the Zombie Rangers diatribe, it doesn't matter what any other Celtic fan says, Mrs Ego said it's because we miss Ranger so that's it, and woe betide anyone who says we don't, they must be lying....BECAUSE MRS EGO SAYS SO!

The Good Lord invented night shift for men who are married to women like that. One of our drivers goes in the huff when he is on day shift because it means he has to sit with his wife at night.

Narcissistic personality disorder is a serious condition and a very ugly personality trait.

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{Ed007's Note - I had something else on tonight I couldn't get out of mate. I've got all the paperwork sorted apart from one letter that I will get tomorrow, my mam will need to look through some of my dad's old papers to find it but it is definitely in there somewhere.}

Yeah Che, seems you have all the answers for being a Celtic supporter and an expert on how people should conduct themselves in life.

I can see both sides of the argument, we feel we are being hard done by from the board and the current playing squad are not everyones choice.

In the same breath we haven't always won trebles every year or qualified for the last sixteen of CL. So why the craving so much for this now?

I would like to see a more attractive style of football; but on the whole I am happy at the current condition of the club.

And I have always said that's what makes Celtic such an exciting club to be part of; no matter how good or bad things are going we can debate the bit.

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"In the same breath we haven't always won trebles every year or qualified for the last sixteen of CL. So why the craving so much for this now?"

Because Deloitte confirmed in January that Celtic are in the top 40 wealthiest football clubs in the world. Name another Scottish club, other than us, who can afford to buy a player worth £1m plus?

This season the onl fee paid by any of the other 41 SPFL teams was James Collins to Hibs for £200k, the rest of the summer + winter transfers were made up of free contracts + loan deals.

Are you telling me a team like Celtic (who spent £13.5m on new players, including £2.6m on a single individual) not even reaching a cup QF, never mind winning a Double or Treble, is acceptable?!

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Well said Frew, Che you need to get a grip, we all have different opinions. I agree with some of your points but to be fair I agree with some of Mrs Es points. We all have an opinion, that's what makes sites like this good. I think you are taking this a bit too far, Life is too short as we have all previously experienced, YNWA wee man. Hail Hail

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Are we not going over the top.?
Surely we should be able to accept views other than are own

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14 May 2014 20:42:09
I've came up with this by merging two documents together, the lists of players are notes I have regarding fees and the totals at the bottom are a season by season breakdown that I'm not 100% sure where I got it from. Loan fees paid for players aren't included nor are the settlement fees for released players although they would have an effect on the totals.

£2.6m - Virgil van Dijk
£2.4m - Gary Hooper
£2.3m - Efrain Juarez
£2.2m - Mo Bangura
£2m - Fraser Forster
£1.5m - Amido Balde
£1.3m - Efe Ambrose, Beram Kayal
£1.2m - Anthony Stokes
£900,000 - Victor Wanyama
£800,000 - Leigh Griffiths
£800,000 - Daryl Murphy
£580,000 - Emilio Izaguirre
£400,000 - Tom Rogic
£300,000 - Kris Commons
£250,000 - Adam Matthews
£100,000 - Tony Watt
Free/Bosman - Charlie Mulgrew, Cha Du-ri, Joe Ledley, Daniel Majstorovic, Olivier Kapo, Freddie Ljungberg, Dylan McGeouch, Kelvin Wilson, Andre Blackman, Mikael Lustig, Rabiu Ibrahim, Lassad


Out:
£12.5m - Victor Wanyama
£9.5m - Aiden McGeady
£5.5m - Ki Sung-yeung
£5.5m - Gary Hooper
£2.5m - Joe Ledley
£2.5m - Marc Antoine-Fortune
£1.7m - Artur Boruc
£1.5m - Stephen McManus, Jos Hooiveld, Efrain Juarez
£850,000 - Shaun Maloney
£350,000 - Paul Caddis/Simon Ferry
£300,000 - Marc Crosas, Cillian Sheridan, Islam Feruz
£250,000 - Morten Rasmussen
£100,000 - Zheng Zhi
Free/Bosman - Lee Naylor, Olivier Kapo, Milan Misun, Paul McGowan, Freddie Ljungberg, Ben Hutchinson, Graham Carey, Dominic Cervi, Daniel Majstorovic, Glenn Loovens, Josh Thompson, Daryl Murphy, Koki Mizuno, Andreas Hinkel, Richie Towell, Darren O'Dea, Mark Wilson, Paul Slane



2010-11 Total spend: £10.2 million Total sales: £15.9 million
2011-12 Total spend: £3.1 million Total sales: £2.65 million
2012-13 Total spend: £3.9 million Total sales: £8.5 million
2013-14 Total spend: £13.6 million Total sales: £23.0 million

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Out of the 29 bought by Celtic during Lennon's spell, 18 of them are very good to decent?

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{Ed007's Note - We must have different opinions on what is 'very good to decent', no wonder you phrased it as a question.}

Debatable hence the?Thought Juarez was shaping up, what ever happened .Tom Rogic making the cut for oz, Watt ability is there .

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Is there players missin I heard lennon say the other day derk boreigter was only 1million

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{Ed007's Note - Sorry about that, I was trying to get the layout right and check things all on my tablet. I was chuffed with doing all that on a tablet as well, cheers lol :)
Is anyone else missing?}

Best signings imo are /where,, vvd. wanyama. forster. ledley. lustig. Matthews. hooper. izzy. commons. wilson,, next tier ok to average,, stokes. mulgrew. kayal .griffihs. ambrose. pukki. big dan,, jurys still out. watt. rogic . biton. balde

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And pukki was he really 3million

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Thanks ed you are a star, we can all have opinions about signings good or bad. But what is in NO doubt is Lennon is in profit and has made the club money.At DN30 you were saying?

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Interesting post ed. We do ok considering the realities of professional football and were we operate.
2011 - ONE man city transfer (Sergio Agüero) Atlético £38 million - I won't even look up what they spend in a year and loose

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{Ed007's Note - Compare us to Basel and get back to me. Atletico Madrid spent less than Sevco and are in the CL final. Spending money doesn't guarantee success, having a good manager spending it makes all the difference.}

Rayman, he is NOT in profit. He shall be merited with no credit for players he never signed. The argument is based on purely his signings alone.

Ed, any chance you could publish signings in/out solely based on players lennon has signed. can't believe there are people trying to credit lennon with merit for big transfer fees for mcgeady etc. This is really getting beyond a joke with this faction now

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{Ed007's Note - FFS!! I'll need some time on that, if you send me money I might work quicker ;)

@ed007 lol cheers mate. Trying to settle a dispute with rayman once and for all

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Fair point well made ed, I'll blame the Glasgow weather then, and maybe death threats etc might put off a few prospects.

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If you're just going to base income + expenditure on NL's signings alone then going from figures I've gathered from a couple different websites: NL has spent £30.8m on new players + brought in £25.4m from his own players leaving. Don't know how accurate those figures will be though, Ed will have more insight!

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@DN30 your movin the goalposts, why wudnt he get the credit for getting top dollar sellin a player he never signed, I knew you would come back with this.If in your opinion he can't then he must get credit for all the players we sell when he gone. Just not doable you can only go by profit or loss in his tenure.

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Of course Lennon has paid more for players, than he has got back on players he has sold . He still has a full team of players probably worth £20/30m. of players that he signed still at the club .

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My point exactly chris.

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14 May 2014 18:31:09
ED are you able to find out if Lennon has brought more cash in than spent mate, great job as ever.

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{Ed007's Note - Give me half an hour or so buddy, I'll need to update the list I've got saved.}

Its approx. 26 million in, 35 million out

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Rayman would you agree with me if it is suggested, we base this on his signings alone?

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3 million a year approx going by your figures DRB?
Who has the final say as regards buys sells .
It seems the decent team that Lennon built, if he was responsible for signing them was dismolished by the greed of Wanyama, Hooper, Wilson, Ledley and Lawwell.
At least give him credit for building a decent team if indeed he did and the blame for having to rebuild at the doors of those that aren't exactly setting the heather alit elsewhere

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{Ed007's Note - So anything good is because of NL but anything bad isn't his fault? Do you honestly think NL didn't know what was going on with Samaras contract, it's just more lies that he has been caught out with.}

What I was trying to point out, maybe not relayed correctly ed was that it seems that no credit is given at all .
If he gets abuse for signing Daryl Murphy he needs credit for signing Wanyama?
When he had Hooper Wanyama Wilson and Ledley they were in his team regularly .
Did he sign them or did Law well?
If Lennon signed them he deserves credit for building that team regardless of his fashion range does he not?

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{Ed007's Note - But we can't keep harping on about season 2012/13 and just forget about the shambles season 13/14 has been. Football is a here and now results based business, here and now we have regressed since 2012/13 and the end of season results do not make good reading. The club and the team have not progressed at all this season, if anything they have went back the way and the blame for that must be shouldered by Peter Lawwell and more importantly by Neil Lennon. Anyone who sees this season as an overall success are kidding themselves on, in August we were talking about trebles, record runs, kicking on and making a mark in Europe, you don't get any medals in football for turning a profit in your accounts.
Give NL credit for building the team but he also deserves the credit for dismantling it and filling it with inferior players, credit for a 6-1 drubbing at the hands of Barca, credit for losing to Morton in the League Cup and Aberdeen in the Scottish.}

The League was win, fair enough, not just a walz in thou, as some would like you to think. Poor cup displays yes no doubt .CL, shocking group to be in in all fairness .To
replace the standard of players he lost and get CL results was a big ask .Let's see how Biton, Griffiths and co settle in next season .
Wasn't a great year by any means and NL certainly isn't perfect by a long shout but surely not totally to blame.
If he's still there next season one trophy will not be enough .

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{Ed007's Note - At least you're acknowleding there are problems.}

Whether we like Lennon or not I think the problem we could have is getting a Manager that will be any better . Just as players have to be persuaded to come and play here, so would a manager need a lot of persuading .

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{Ed007's Note - Owen Coyle?}

Bad managers are like poor players they are more likely to agree to come .

Just as we can't harp on about our success in Europe in 2012/13 . I think we should wait until we see how we do this year . If we have another bad yr then if Lennon is still here, he deserves condemnation. If we do well then we can regard 2013/14 as been a poor year among good yrs and forgivable .

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14 May 2014 15:23:46
List of free transfers available what do u think about celtic getting any of these, do we need more experience in the champions league

Victor Valdes
Brad Freidel
Joeleen lescott
Frank Lampard
Rio Fredinand
Joe Cole
Eto
Ashley cole
Patrice evra
shola ameobi
Nicholas bendtner

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They're all probably out of reach financially bar the bottom two. I'd like Bendtner (still probably on a hefty wage) and Shola Amoeba is an absolute no. Hunt, ChoupoMoting, Ince, Natkho, much more realistic freebies.

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14 May 2014 18:41:40
This is Glasgow Celtic not fantasy football! Are you for real? We couldn't even compete wage wise with championship clubs for these players!

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Mostly to old and would get maybe 1 season out them and wages no chance

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Bendtner would be a solid player for you. It's a pity he's off to Madrid.

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14 May 2014 12:35:56
tim Sherwood or malky McKay

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Derek Whyte + Gerry Britton as joint player-managers.

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Death or Mau Mau?

If this is a question asking who we'd rather have, probably Malky.

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