Celtic Banter Archive March 14 2021

14 Mar 2021 17:55:23
'My CV doesn't warrant Real Madrid calling me. But I also don't want to go down too low'

(You're right Roy and your CV doesn't warrant Celtic calling either. )

'"I felt they wanted me but they weren't showing how much they wanted me. It wasn't rocking my boat. '

(Hopefully somebody else will rock your boat Roy) .

"I felt powerful saying: 'No'. I felt good.

(That's great Roy I hope you feel powerful and good again when you say no) .

Tells you everything you need to know about what Roy thinks of Celtic. He knows he's not good enough for Real Madrid but we didn't rock his boat.

Don't go to low rock on Roy.

14 Mar 2021 18:17:26
just for you JFP, KEANO THERE'S ONLY ONE KEANO, THERE'S ONLY ONE KEANO 😅😅😅.

14 Mar 2021 18:52:16
JFP, I'm getting mixed messages - what is it you're trying to say about Roy? (LOL)

14 Mar 2021 19:15:32
I reckon it will be someone who's name hasn't been mentioned.

14 Mar 2021 20:26:33
Hail Mary full of Grace
Don’t let Roy come near our place
Holy Mary Mother of God
Please don’t give Roy Keane the nod.

14 Mar 2021 21:32:56
😂😂👍.

14 Mar 2021 21:33:33
🤣🤣🤣🤣.

15 Mar 2021 10:20:46
Remember your act of contrition JFP Hail Mary's are for American football 🏈 prayers 🙏 never work said plenty during 80s and 90s 😇

Keane is a winner and never took the job with the restrictions that were put to him poor budget backroom team clearly time has proved he was correct Ronny was restricted with players available to him I think he done a decent job and was probably a better coach that both Lenny and Rodgers just never got the budget to spend. Keane will get us fired up that's what we need remember he's only an Irishman Strachan reminded him of that he's not infallible not the pope or god if he wants the job now good if there's anyone better I'll be delighted. HH onwards and upwards
Pax Vobiscum.

14 Mar 2021 16:32:14
Keane would be step up from lennon in many ways, authority, player pulling power and general profile internationally etc.

Clearly not at the same level as Rogers in terms of player development, but what matters in that regard is the support team.

Regardless of manger it would be a larger concern if Kennedy and the chief scout remain in post.

Kennedy is stale and unproven outside the walls of celtic his body Language with lennon was shocking. The head of recruitment is a long-term mistake.

So Keane is not necessarily a bad choice, but his support team is fundamental.

At celtic he would instill a mentality which has been absent, even during the Rogers era as evident by our European record in that time which was poor.

14 Mar 2021 17:02:34
Totally agree Imo.

14 Mar 2021 17:26:12
As a manager remind me how many times Keane got his team to the last 16 of the CL?

How many league titles has he won as a manager?

How many cups has he won as a manager?

From my recollection his greatest achiement was getting Sunderland promoted from the Championship.

Really have no idea how you reached the conclusion that Keane is a better manager than Lennon.

14 Mar 2021 17:47:31
Crazy logic.

14 Mar 2021 17:51:47
In fairness he took on two jobs where the teams where awful where as Lennon got Celtic at a time where we had no real competition

For every good level result Lennon had he had 2 or 3 hugely embarrassing results

You can’t judge the two fairly. Keane flopped at Ipswich Lennon flopped at Bolton - that’s the only things that these 2 can be judged on.

14 Mar 2021 18:28:57
Not saying i want Keane but going by your logic LAW we should just hire Lennon back as anyone we hire will be a backwards step as they won't be as a good a manager as Lennon.

14 Mar 2021 18:35:32
There are better candidates than Keane to be our next manager.

14 Mar 2021 19:58:11
LennonAtWork are you on having a laugh?
You are going on about Keane not winning any cups, not getting into the last 16 of the CL, not winning any titles but yesterday on another post you said that although he wasn't your first choice you would be happy with Wilder as our new manager. How many things has he won?
How many Titles, Cups had Rodgers won or got his teams into the last 16 of the CL before he came here and how did he do in Europe with Celtic?
O'Neill won the League Cup but what else had he done?
You then also stated in another post that because Ferguson and Mourinho had been sacked that Wilder isn't a bad manager.
You honestly can't be placing Wilder in the same bracket as Ferguson and Mourinho.

14 Mar 2021 23:04:21
Wilder has a much better track record than Roy Keane.

Rodgers had taken Liverpool to within a whisker of winning the EPL.

O'Neil had won the League Cup with Leicster and done Wonders with Wycombe Wanderers before that. He had also got Leicster to the Quarter Finals of the UEFA cup.

Lennon actually took over an extremely rubbish team after Mowbray, had to sell his best player and done a complete rebuild. In his first season he was up against Walter Smith and finished 1 point behind and after that he won every league title apart from this one.

Now you do not have to agree but I would take Lennon before Keane every day of the week as I think Keane will come in and upset the players and don't think he will improve us in the slightest. Would also take John Kennedy before Keane, although I don't want any of Keane, Lennon or Kennedy.

Don't get me wrong I really like Keane and have nothing but respect for his playing career, just don't rate him as a manager. Getting Keane would make me feel even lower than I did when we appointed Lennon right after winning the treble treble.

15 Mar 2021 13:20:50
Lennon should never have been in contention to return to celtic. Sacked at Bolton and hibs.

14 Mar 2021 14:16:34
Keane isn't my cup of tea but if its him I hope he has a look at Maloney as No2.

14 Mar 2021 12:48:18
There are absolutely no excuses why the positions that need filled currently aren't.
The club have had months to find, identify and recruit the right candidates.
Anyone who wants to make the excuses of it takes time are kidding themselves on.
They have dragged there heels on every major decision this season and from the outside, look to be doing the same on these matters.
No excuses get it done.

{Ed007's Note - What if they're currently in a job? Do you think say Enzo Maresca would be willing to walk away from winning Man City their first Under-23 title in years, wouldn't that make him just as big a rat as Rodgers? Roy Keane's got a very generous contract at Sky - which would hit him financially if he left and sour his relationship with them - and could easily be working behind the scenes on taking over.
Just because there's nothing being made public doesn't mean things aren't moving forward or even in place and just need to be announced.}

14 Mar 2021 13:10:01
Remember after wim left it took us months before Dr Jo took over, and we were getting slaughtered for it.

14 Mar 2021 13:11:20
Yes but why no Dof. if that position was filled then at least the fans would see progression and an attempt to move the club forward.
Fair enough about a manager.
But this board have just shown how in the football department atleast, there decision making and timing on matters is questionable at best and incompetent at worst.

{Ed007's Note - Maybe new DOF is currently in a job, maybe the new DOF is already working with the Club behind the scenes and making plans? Again, just because things aren't in the public domain doesn't mean there's nothing happening.}

14 Mar 2021 13:22:29
Ed you make very good points and I dearly hope you are correct apart from the Roy Keane part Lol.

{Ed007's Note - Keane would be a success with the right assistants & coaches around him.}

14 Mar 2021 13:41:45
Ed people are allowed to hand there notice in and take up other jobs.
We will disagree on this this one.
They need to get it done.
This board have filled the squad with loan players, players running there contracts down and players in the last year of there contract.
They need to press the button on things and make them happen.
It's obvious there are working behind the senses but there are no excuses. lennons job was under threat from August. The new dof has been floated since at least BR.

{Ed007's Note - There's nothing to disagree over, football isn't like any other job when it comes to contracts etc Technically NL would have needed to give us a year's notice if he wanted to move on, we needed to give the LSE 6 months notice that Lawwell was leaving. Look how much we got from Leicester because Rodgers upped and left without any notice being given.
And what if the people are currently working their notice? Just because we don't know what's going on doesn't mean they aren't moving forward.}

14 Mar 2021 13:42:20
Too old school for me I except there would be pluses and minuses with his appointment but from a football side alone I would say no we need a modern thinking established manager IMO.

14 Mar 2021 13:59:59
I'd be shocked if plans weren't well underway for next season, whether that's simply an agreement with a DOF who is liaising about or doing background work.

14 Mar 2021 14:02:29
As much as we are all angry about how this season has went. It's ridiculous to think the club aren't working on these issues behind the scenes. We are a club that tries to do our business quietly. Would you rather we rushed both appointments and had another rubbish show next year? Sure we would get a running start with appointing both positions now but what would be the benefit if they are the wrong appointments? Honestly it's so frustrating reading this site with the petulant impatience. This is a critical change in the club's hierarchy and needs to be carried out with due care and consideration.

14 Mar 2021 14:57:28
I think we could do worse than keano The more time that passes I coming round to thinking why not Old school dinosaur comments I don't really get Can't ever see a Celtic team perform as poorly as Glasgow derby debacle at home under him Players like julien barkas and eddy all need rocket and if can't accept criticism from someone of his ilk. Shouldn't be there . am I only person who thought julien could easily have avoided running into post? Is football really that different over decades. 11 players v 11 players. Could almost guarantee we be fitter and hungrier Seems like could be right time He seems little bit wiser maybe previous jobs too early for him after stopping playing at the very highest level under one of Scotland's best ever bosses and assistant to mon so I would say his tactical knowledge very aware I can't see us going down "modern day manager " route whatever that actually means Some guy winning under 23 league with best youngsters in world? I'd take keano all day.

14 Mar 2021 15:17:52
SOS-Bhoy - Like you I am certain that the board are working on getting a new manager in ASAP.

However, I do question the fact that they did not have someone lined up as Lennon's dismissal had been on the cards for a while.

14 Mar 2021 17:30:16
LAW, the whole situation was absurd! He should have been let go a lot earlier. It made no sense to let him go when they did. All we can hope for is that they make better decisions going forward. Complacency and arrogance cost us 10 in a row. Let's hope it doesn't happen again.

14 Mar 2021 11:08:31
Buzz mate. do you know if we have a sell on clause for kieran tierney?
That boy will hit the 100 million mark in my opinion. He is the best in his position in england and possibly europe in a year or two.

14 Mar 2021 11:44:14
injury free he will go on to bigger things no doubt.

14 Mar 2021 12:32:29
I hope your keeping well Rob.
The report I read states that Celtic will receive 15% of his next transfer fee.
It looks like it will be 15% of the full asking price and not just the profit.
KT won 10 trophies with Celtic in only 170 appearances and he scored 9 goals.

14 Mar 2021 12:53:43
KT will surely go on to play for a bigger club than Arsenal.

14 Mar 2021 15:06:14
thanks for that Buzz mate. still on furlough and its doing ma head in, but am healthy so i should thank god for that. hope you and the family are all keeping safe.

14 Mar 2021 10:08:58
Haalands younger cousin only 17 being promoted to Molde first team, has scored over 60 goals in 30 odd appearances lower league, will be a lot of clubs circling but surely we should be taking a look.

14 Mar 2021 09:24:32
How much credence is everyone giving to these Chris Wilder stories?
Supposedely a manager being SACKED anyday, and suddenly our Board are WILLING TO PAY COMPENSATION.
If this is True it is another example of our Board's incompetence.

14 Mar 2021 09:58:51
The story comes from a Sheffield Utd blog but that is the only outlet reporting this as far as I can see.

14 Mar 2021 12:47:04
Wilder is just lazzzzy 'journalism' - not a hope he should be anywhere Glasgow.

14 Mar 2021 00:43:37
Sad to hear that a true boxing legend has passed away at only 66.

Marvelous Marvin Hagler RIP and thanks for some great boxing memories. For anyone who loves boxing and has never watched his fight with Tommy the Hitman Hearns, you should do youreself a favour and search for it online.

One of my favourite boxers of all time.

14 Mar 2021 06:44:45
Legend.

14 Mar 2021 07:28:08
Some boxer.

14 Mar 2021 07:33:21
I remember the great fights between Hagler Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Hearns. The greatest middleweights ever I wonder how Mayweather would have fared against any of these fabulous boxers.
I tell my son to watch these fights and those of Ali Foreman and Frazier if he wants to watchthe best fights ever.
I also recal the disgraceful scenes after the Alan Minter fight at Wembley.

14 Mar 2021 07:48:23
Jonace

I loved Roberto Duran he was a fighter rather than a boxer though.

Ali v Frazier 1971 is one for your son to watch.

14 Mar 2021 07:54:49
Yeah the minter fight was crazy at the end.

This was a golden age with some amazing fighters, as you just mentioned with some great fights. I know Sugar Ray beat him on points but Marv will always be the greatest in my eyes.

Hagler was a true master, he could fight you on the outside or the inside and had this crazy long distance jab that you didn't see coming. He would move his feet into position and then just launch himself at his opponents and land a jab with the right and often followed with a left hook to the face.

14 Mar 2021 09:04:41
Just reading about the passing of MMH. Watching his 'War' with Thomas 'The Hit Man' Hearns in 1985 got me interested in boxing.

Who can forget when he came over to London and destroyed Alan Minter.

He fought in a golden era of the Middleweight division with Hearns, Duran, Ray Leonard and not forgetting, hard as granite, Vito Auntofirmo (spelling incorrect no doubt) . These guys were Warriors.

He felt that despite all his hard work and achievements, he never truly got the recognition he deserved which is why he added 'Marvellous' infront of his given name so that when the media addressed him they had no option but to say it.

He was truly one of the greats.

R. I. P. Champ.

14 Mar 2021 09:13:59
Jonace, I'd also recommend your son watching another one of the all time greatest ever fighters - Ray Robinson. 'Sugar' was (IMHO) pound for pound, one of the very best.

Particularly the fights he had with Jake La Motta (Raging Bull) , those were legendary.

At heavyweight he could do a lot worse than look at documentaries of, Jack Johnson (way ahead of his time) , the undefeated Marciano, Jack Dempsey and for raw, explosive power, the early fights of Mike Tyson.

14 Mar 2021 10:17:38
Pedro

The age old argument.

There is no doubting how explosive the young Mike Tyson was but Ali v Tyson both at their best - who wins?

14 Mar 2021 11:14:49
I'm sure Teddy Atlas would say Ali won it because he has serious doubts over Tyson's mentality.

14 Mar 2021 12:19:29
JFP, as the great Reg Gutterudge once said; 'a good big un will always beat a good little un'.

14 Mar 2021 12:20:37
LAW, Teddy and Mike fell out years ago. One story goes that Atlas pulled a revolver on Tyson in the gym.

14 Mar 2021 16:07:54
I think the story was Tyson groped a girl at school and Teddy found out about it and pulled a gun on him. This was when they both lived with Cus D'Amato.

As a result they were not close for a very long time. However, I'm sure Tyson apologised for what he done fairly recent and they have mended some bridges.

13 Mar 2021 22:55:23
Would rather deontay wilder at least he would come out fighting get a grip please we cannot go backwards the board need to get this right.