Celtic Banter Archive July 14 2016

 

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14 Jul 2016 22:00:50
It's all too quiet, has that result frightened a few potential signings off? Are they waiting to see if we beat the mighty Lincoln Red Imps? Am I embarrassed? Too fekin right I am, I'm more worried about playing a second round game with this squad. earliest exit ever?

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{Ed041's Note - I think Celtic will blow them away at home.

14 Jul 2016 20:48:33
I find it strange that Rodgers said that he expected to hear news on new signings by last wednesday, but here we are eight days later no further forward in signing anyone, i know we are the slowest team in the world negotiating with players but surely it doesn't take that long to sign players.

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14 Jul 2016 22:14:30
We have offered players deals they are weighing up there offers by the looks of it.

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14 Jul 2016 17:07:46
Ed would like to hear your take on a conversation i had last night with a man I got talking to in a hotel in cork macroon to be precise it was his opinion, no even stronger than that his believe strong believe that D. D is in talks already to give up his shares in Celtic and move on, now this was a man maybe 65 66 that sort of age group and he had no doubt what so ever. I said no way he has only brought in a new high profile manager to improve the club, his answer to that left me not knowing what to believe, is the manager there to improve the club, or is he there to improve the look of the club two. totally different agendas. looking at what's actually happened at Celtic park since Rodgers arrived and the truth is very little changed, one player in who fits into the old lawwell footprint cheap to buy with sell on possibilities in real terms not a brass penny spent, Just wander if big jock was there now with every game covered by t. v for him to study and had spent a month working with the players at close hand and his remit was to improve the team how many of Tuesday nights team would have started, the next month will either prove or disprove what Declan believes hope to high heaven he is wrong.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think DD has any intention of getting rid of his shares unless it's to give them to his son. I can't see him selling them unless it was a crazy offer from China or a Sheikh.}

14 Jul 2016 18:01:42
Calm down, the team will improve. Only winners here are SMSM, who already are doing what they did to Ronnie. Said a while back, careful what you ask for as many thought a change of manager was the cure. BR has to find his team, from what he has and who comes in, but it will take time. Modern teams need consistency and hard work. Complain all you like but the shape of team is better, more like a Celtic team of old. If we could change one thing its s cb who is quick and would instil confidence. Hail hsil.

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14 Jul 2016 18:46:27
Calm down? Are you for real? That was the worst performance i have ever saw from celtic. No excuses.

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14 Jul 2016 19:14:59
The shape of the team is better! Did u by any chance watch the game the other nite? No amount of criticism is enough after that on Tuesday!

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14 Jul 2016 19:46:44
Disagree with better shape. 2 holding players in a 433 isn't the way forward and player getting played out of position ie your top scorer. i'm hust hoping the other night is trial by error. BR. Really needs to start from scratch.

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14 Jul 2016 19:23:18
At last someone talking a bit of sense .Yes it was a bad result but people driving themselves into a frenzy over the first leg of a tie which we will win comfortably on Wed only panders to the Scottish media and the Sevconians. To say its the worst result in our history is nonsense , I can think of 2 worse in recent years Morton and Clyde and those weren't played on a rubber pitch in 90 degree heat. Everyone needs to keep the heed because fans driving themselves into a frenzy after a bad 90 mins of football is doing nobody any good

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14 Jul 2016 20:02:39
It's exactly the same as losing away to a part time Scottish Championship team who are half way through their season, and also on the worst plastic pitch known to man! As far as I know Red Imps play every game on that pitch, not just their home games! I also laughed when I heard that they trained for 2 hours every day - that's more than most of our full time teams! We had 1 decent centre half available - look at the circumstances for God's sake, the manager's been here 3 bloody weeks! We know some of the players are rotten, the tough part is getting some clown of a manager who wants to buy them! It's never the worst result in our history, - we conceded 5 against Bratislava, they were average. Big teams all over Europe lose by an odd goal in cup competition every year against teams 3/ 4 leagues below them, and that's when the league has been running, not 3 weeks in. If we don't qualify it will be the worst result. My only complaint was putting Dembele straight in, I think players should have to earn their place. Hopefully he has a few top players lined up, - players need a pre-season so it's not always easy getting quality early, also the Euro's were on!

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14 Jul 2016 20:05:47
I actually meant to mention the Morton result Stevie, and you're right the Clyde result was worse because we knew them, I'm sure Lennon and Keane played. Also their pitch was even semi-normal.

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14 Jul 2016 21:35:37
Delphic, that result on Tuesday was shocking, I couldn't care less if it was a better result than previous humiliations or not, the fact is we were a laughing stock.
There is absolutely no excuse for performances like that, if we start to allow them to make excuses for that, then what next?, if we lose the home leg is it okay because we haven't played them at Celtic park before?, or it's only July and the weather's a bit warmer than usual? .
If players can't lift themselves enough to beat a part time team from Gibraltar then something is badly wrong. I'm sure that Clyde and Morton would have beaten this team, that about says it all for me.

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14 Jul 2016 22:33:26
Gerry calm down all will be forgotten after we put 5 or 6 past them on wed, I genuinely think that because of the daft name this mob have got Lincoln Red imps it makes it seem more humiliating. If the Estonian mob had got through (can't mind there name) but at least sounded like a fitbaw team and we lost 1-0 I don't think there would of been the same outcry. And for the record the Imps are a far better team than Morton or Clyde

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14 Jul 2016 17:22:55
Why is efe and biton taking all the flak brown couldn't control the midfield in an under 10s game never mind a champs league qualifier Craig Gordon should have saved there goal and as for grifiths on the right who cares he scored a lot of goals last season he deserves a lot of credit for that but people have short memories Wht did he do in Europe nothing that's Wht we need a better striker than him for Europe and I'm actually surprised RD and SJ haven't been blamed by some for the other night they've got the blame for everything last year.

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14 Jul 2016 18:10:23
Wits lazy criticism blaming Efe for the bad result . If our golden bhoys had performed anything like we expected, Efe's goal would have been forgotten among the 4/ 5 we should have scored.

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14 Jul 2016 18:29:40
Scott Brown has taken loads of flak on this site Stephen.

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14 Jul 2016 19:49:01
Kkev i disagree he gets off scott free (see what i did there) all the time he doesn't get flak enough because he is rank rotten and has been since he came. let's be honest here he is never in the running for any awards.

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14 Jul 2016 21:34:44
Have a read, there's plenty of folk criticising him, myself included.

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14 Jul 2016 22:19:00
Are you trying to tell us the 3 of them don't deserve it please tell me when any of the 3 played two good games in a row between them in fact tell me one game you can remember them playing good. when any of the 3 aren't in the starting 11 we play better.

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15 Jul 2016 05:05:28
@ Delphic
I believe all the teams in Gibraltar play their games on the same pitch.

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14 Jul 2016 15:57:52
I won't lie, I am absolutely gutted and appalled at how slow we have made moves in the market. I fully understand that BR has stated that he wants to assess and evaulate the squad, but it as clear as day what's needed. I hope for the life of me we start getting some signatures soon because this is unreal. Not a linked played in days bar that dutch striker!

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14 Jul 2016 16:45:45
Does it matter who the press link us to?
They just make it up as they go along.

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14 Jul 2016 17:05:54
Anderson

He already said at least 2 weeks ago that he wanted a centre half. Nothing has happened since. Absolute joke.

Need rid of a few midfielders before signing anyone there. Bids for Bitton and Johansen less than what we are hoping for but should have been taken to give BR a bit of space in the squad and a decent profit in total.

We have known for months we need someone to play left mid / wide left. This should be blatantly obvious.

I could go on but too depressing.

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14 Jul 2016 18:15:21
We can expect Brendan to get most things right, but one thing he can't do is make a target player make up his mind to suit us . We can target a player, agree a price, agree terms but still the player can hold out to see who else is interested .

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14 Jul 2016 20:37:53
Old Bhoy

You missed a step, you need to add the following;

PL finds a cheaper option and forces him on the sucker, I mean manager!

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15 Jul 2016 09:15:37
All I am getting at is usually in the press, social media's there is players linked with us, some of which would excite us as fans, but plain and simple, so far this has been boring with no movement. I totally get that the media would link us to every tom dick and harry and it would materialize to sweet F all but to have something as a talking point would make this dismal a little bit more enduring.

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14 Jul 2016 14:38:01
Re tues game and the squad overall surely J Kennedy has made BR aware of who's good who's average and who's utter dross because this squad minus Dembele have failed in every big game for 2 years and it took wee Roberts to see them over the line last year along with Leigh's goals.

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14 Jul 2016 15:49:54
John Kennedy IMO shouldn't even still be there! And Tuesday nite just confirmed that! How many times did ambrose make an arse of it for RD? With Kennedy standing beside him! Surely he must have told BR that this guy is a total liability! But then again he probably didn't. he should have went with RD and JC!

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14 Jul 2016 18:21:26
It was neither Kennedy nor Efe who prevented us from scoring three or four goals which was the lest we would have thought we could have scored .

I just cannot understand how anyone, is in the know enough at Celtic, to know John Kennedy should be gone I M O people who are in a position to know seem happy enough with him.

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14 Jul 2016 13:59:29
I'm amazed that some of us are using the heat and pitch as an excuse for losing in a gutless pathetic performance against a part time team. I couldn't care if it was played on sand, it's not acceptable! It's genuinely worrying, i remember BR playing Danny Ings wide left to accommodate others, I hope this isn't the future with griffiths out wide. Let's see the lineup Wednesday, if bitton n brown are in the team then i fear it's going to be a long season.

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14 Jul 2016 15:11:24
Just catching up reading through the fall out there, (by the way it is embarrassing) and these two points seem to be the recurring themes.

The pitch helped with their goal. No denying that. Their forward reacted better to what is an unnatural bounce - probably through experience - and Efe to be fair, was a bit helpless in that instance, and I am not an Efe fan. That said, we should have won the game, and at least registered a goal ourselves. Again though, it was just a clueless and for some effortless performance in a key game.

As for the whole LG on the right thing. Again, we still should have won! I get the idea, just not the timing perhaps. The key factor in the equation though is Roberts. Of the players we have now, our best front 3 would be Dembele LWF, Griff ST, Roberts RWF imo. I can only assume either Roberts hasn't been 100% or BR would rather build something with our 'own' players. Roberts was used sparingly in the friendlies and obviously didn't even get a chance in Gib. Take him out the equation, and I can't say I disagree with Dembele more in the middle and Griff more on the right, but that's mid-term, it's always going to be a gamble experimenting during qualifiers.

A point I'll add. And persist with - Johansen. He was missed.

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14 Jul 2016 16:08:54
Said before jim haven't seen dembele at Fulham . can he play there or is it another shoehorn job. as with that 3 imo it removes rogic from the the team and is this boy good enough for that . all I know he had a half decent season and those where his first senior goals . I said when we signed him I'd rather ease him into team bringing him on when we are in a controlled lead.

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14 Jul 2016 17:10:29
It's a bit of a shoe horn DRB. And just a short term idea. But with a front 3 and our squad right now it's going to be, I mean, who are the natural wingers? Forrest? Mid-long term Dembele can be a great striker in the middle for us, in fact we should be looking at him replacing Griffiths entirely, further down the line. But he needs to be playing, he's comfortable in the wide area and I just think if BR is insistant on MD and LG in a front 3, for the qualifiers at least, and until we get another winger in, we should line up like I said above. Or just drop either MD or LG. We needed an extra wide man anyway, there's even more of that emphasis now. We've already heard we'll see different shapes. And Rogic for me does not fir in a 433. Rogic was playing CM on tuesday, which he isn't, he's a CAM. Either behind a front two or in the middle of an attacking 3 behind one striker. Again, either do that or don't play him at all. I have my reservations a wee bit though, if Rogic is THAT good to build a team around.

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14 Jul 2016 17:32:45
I'm not being flippant, but we should have been able to beat this team with Craig Gordon playing at Centre forward.
It's just a recurring theme with this squad that whenever we play any kind of important match whatever the level of opposition, too many of this squad go missing. It's okay to look good against Motherwell on the last day of the season when there is no pressure, but we have to get players in that don't mentally fall to pieces whenever a match means something.
Rodgers will need to get his finger out and fast.

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14 Jul 2016 18:01:59
I kinda agree he might not be tge player to build the team around . but he was among the few who done well last season. I've also said if we had bought dembele from the 4th bottom second div french team would he even be in the squad or is it the fact spurs offered what they did getting him overhyped?

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14 Jul 2016 19:32:41
The team I would play has Rogic in it. If we had good wingers for both sides I'd bleed Dembele into the side as second choice striker, for now, absolutely - half an hour at the end of a game, playing weaker sides at home to give LG a breather etc. But we don't, and he's a tidy footballer, who shouldn't look like a martian playing around the final third. The clubs he had seriously interested in him speaks volumes really. If we had a France youth International scoring goals being chased by Juve, Spurs, Chelsea etc I'd even sign him from the Scottish second division! A lot of it is just promise though, but it should be nurtured.

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14 Jul 2016 13:41:39
wiz it einstein thit sade stupidity iz when ye keep daen the same things bit expect difo results shood look at that re the mid ae sellik.

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14 Jul 2016 12:44:47
Not sure how to put photos up but if you haven't seen the new hearts away jersey go take a look at it, youll get a good laugh.

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{Ed033's Note - There is a link at the top called Sightings. At the bottom of the sightings page is the upload images form.

14 Jul 2016 12:12:59
Anyone but that clown ambrose in there! My preference would be ajer with lustig back at right back! And one of bitton or brown out the team! Me myself I'd drop the pair of them! Some major arse kicking is needed in that squad and it needs done now! Far to many passengers for to long now and that embarrsment the other nite was the final straw!

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14 Jul 2016 18:07:08
Beav How can Ajer be asked to play CBT, that is not his position and we haven't seen him play in a meaningful game. if we don't sign a new CB in the next week then we should give Mulgrew a new contract, he always performs well for us at the back.

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14 Jul 2016 12:06:00
Still sore after that result. Just a few points.

1. How many managers try to play Griffiths out wide? he's ineffective out wide. hopefully it was just because of the opponents.

2. Rogic is not a midfielder. He plays the "Commons role" that's his only position. I think he's a good player but if we are not playing those tactics we would be as well selling him. Same with rest who all play that one position Johansen, Christie, Allan, Armstrong.

3. 3 in midfield. You need all round players like when we had Ledley to play this. Nir Biton is an excuse for a player. Aye ok when we dominate games and he gets to sideways pass.

He has zero strength, zero pace/ movement, can't dribble past a player, poor tackler, zero aerial threat and has no passion.

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14 Jul 2016 18:10:33
Absolutely right, Rogic is erratic some games he does exceptional things but in others is very poor, he constantly is dispossessed, this happened again and again on Tuesday. I also think E rik is getting a bit of a free ride, he was equally culpable for the goal, how hard is it for two defenders against one striker to organîse for one to challenge and one to cover, he was way out of position.

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14 Jul 2016 08:35:49
Still shocked!

Who would you play alongside Erik on Wednesday? I assume Lustig is injured still. Would mul grew be eligible if he sogned a contract? Ajer? O'Connell?

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{Ed007's Note - No mate, we need to go with the the players we registered to play in this round.}

14 Jul 2016 12:21:04
Lustig was on bench Tuesday was he not?

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14 Jul 2016 09:28:52
I can't make it to the Wolfsburg game due to being away on holiday but I reckon ther will be a few players who will see it as a chance to stake their claim for a place on Wednesday night and beyond. I expect avery competitive and strong performance regardless of it being a friendly.

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14 Jul 2016 09:53:40
I can imagine it will be the same Kev, then we will be told Wednesday was just a blip . But these same players have continually let the club down when an important game comes around . Winning a friendly doesn't cut it anymore, the only way these players can redeem themselves is to start producing when it matters .

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14 Jul 2016 10:48:20
Kev a like your optimism, but a can't see anything but a hefty defeat after that performance the other nite. They just didn't look interested to me, if they can't get up for a champions league qualifier even against a part time team, what chance is there of them being motivated for a friendly? If a was Rodgers ad play a team of kids on Saturday, see if any can replace the dross that's in the first team. If one or two stand out they should be in for the second leg.

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14 Jul 2016 11:16:44
Keeping with the positive. At least for a good chunk of the game we will have to play a different midfield and cb pairing.

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14 Jul 2016 11:31:41
Quinn1888 and Stephbhoy, I don't think Tuesday's team will mirror the team on Saturday. I think he'll make changes and those players will see it as their chance to replace the continuous underachievers.

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14 Jul 2016 00:49:45
Was thinking just there for the ones who can remember the reserve league, is it just me or has quality of scottish players dropped since it was done away with?

Used to go occasionally to reserve old firms. Not bad crowds for reserves.

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14 Jul 2016 01:21:58
It would need a bit of number crunching and stats to show if it was true.
I don't think players have anything to play for now since it has been cut (youth league aside) . If your not first 11 the competitive side has faded. A lot of us used to watch the games on celtic TV or go to them. It didn't make money for the smaller clubs or the larger ones. Sustaining the set up would of needed outside investment. It only made sense for the top few to give fringe or youth a a step up. I agree It is a loss.

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14 Jul 2016 08:27:25
There is no step in between youth and senior levels now and I think that has harmed Scottish football

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14 Jul 2016 08:59:10
dn30, at one time Celtic and original Rangers reserve teams were so powerful and attracting such large crowds that the idea was muted that they could play in the lower divisions with the proviso that they could not be promoted to the top league at the time.
There is no stop gap where potential players or players coming back from injury can get some competitive games in now.
Now we have extra players either sitting on the bench or being loaned out
The reserve league was great but just too costly for some clubs.

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13 Jul 2016 23:51:47
folks this is what we are dealing with here

a GK that was free and injury prone
a right back who is injured 50% of the time
a centre half signed from a mid division israeli side
brown signed from hibs
biton signed from a mid division israeli team
johnassen signed from a norwegian pub team
griffiths signed from hibernian
ciftci from dundee united
dembelle from fulham
a young land that came in after a loan spell at notts county
a young lad from ICT

loan player (star man) who can't get a game for his parent club and prior to that eleven games for fulham

why do we think that MIX and INVESTMENT is CL material . as ED often says . what gives us the right to expect anything?

CFC are caught in a trap

we have very average players on pretty big wages (relative to pan europe) , but low wages relative to sky high england

this is a vicious cycle IE we overpay average players who aren't really wanted by anyone else. the wage levels imply a good level of technical ability / fitness . but its actually merely implied

we didn't mean to amass a poor team
we didn't mean to have a weak nucleus

no one meant to have a scenario where we persevere with a player that gets laughed on to the park and jeered . I'm with old bhoy IE doesn't help

all of the above does not mean i don't love CFC . but my expectations are now very low (they have been low for some time)

the bright spots for me at least are

tierney
armstrong
henderson (pre departure to hibs)

and then I'm struggling

i'll give griffiths a round of applause by choosing to seize upon the opportunity afforded to him . still never good enough (at present) to lead the line in the CL. no chance / no way / another 3 years for that assuming he gets good ammo from m/ field

we are "stuck" with a big squad and a bloated wage bill and will struggle to offload

are we good enough to see off a domestic challenge?

ermmmmm. i really worry about the HUNGER .


we are the biggest club no doubt but i think that plays against us as some of our players think like they have "arrived" whereas they should be working harder than ever to GROW IN TO THE CELTIC JERSEY

good luck to BR

hail hail.

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14 Jul 2016 00:18:52
One thing that does my head in about this site is people trying to get one up on another it's like c1ssc against a rankers fan lads get it together next week could be 10 0. Then we'll be great again yes we need new signings we know that we'll get them we just need to give it time I'm as disappointed as any celtic fan about the 1 0 but keep the faith hh.

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14 Jul 2016 00:31:14
Paradisewon that was meant to be a new post from me nothing against your post mate.

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14 Jul 2016 00:44:53
Paradisewon i agree with most of your post. Thing i like about it is, finally fans are thinking what I've thought for a long time. PL and his modern day equivalent of tattoo JP have seriously put our club back and failed in thete wheeler dealer project.

We won't progress under any manager untill they are gone.

MRgreen your wrong. That was in my 33 years of life the worst result i have ever seen. Should never of happened. But with some fans it will be okay cause its BR. If that was Deila he would be slaughtered and demands for immediate sack/ resign. Which would be justified but same should apply to BR.

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{Ed007's Note - Remember just 6 months ago when we beat a team of part-timers on a plastic pitch 2-0 and it wasn't deemed good enough? The team was booed off the park and the site was full of people wanting the manager sacked because it wasn't up to their standards.
So why has the standard dropped in 6 months? Red Imps are no better than EK Thistle.}

14 Jul 2016 07:13:44
Do t get your point about highlighting the teams the players came from . then praising armstrong and henderson who came from similar standard teams . also griff top scorer goal every other game and not a flop like miku who came from la liga.

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14 Jul 2016 07:26:43
DRB

It was more about overall standard and calibre

You're right about club origin point albeit the poorer the standard of originating club the harder I think it is to expect great things when you amass most of your players from low profile clubs

But I take your point.

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14 Jul 2016 09:24:40
Ed, I agree with you about that. That was probably the point of no return for RD when fans and the media were saying he should be sacked for winning a game and going through. However, I have every confidence we will achieve a better standard under BR.

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{Ed007's Note - Why? So you're confident that we'll win at least 2 domestic trophies and play in the latter stages of Europe this season - after all that's the standard RD set?}

14 Jul 2016 13:01:28
That's the standard RD set in his first season. Last season was a complete shambles and we won 1 domestic trophy and got humped in the EL groups. I expect a big improvement on that and also a gradual improvement in how enjoyable the football is to watch in general. I realise that the BR sychophants get on your nerves Ed but you seem to almost want him to fail with some of your comments.

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{Ed007's Note - If you think I want any Celtic manager to fail you're an idiot and it's not worth me wasting my time talking to you.}

14 Jul 2016 14:05:25
I didn't say you do want him to fail I said some of your comments would almost make it seem so due to their negative nature. But if you want to take the nip that's fine.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see how pointing out the double standards being shown by a lot of supporters could possibly make it look like I want Rodgers to fail. Maybe you're seeing what you want to see rather than what's actually been said, then again it's easier to play the man when you can't argue against his points.}

14 Jul 2016 14:38:39
I'm not arguing against your point Ed. I agree that a lot of people have already shown that they would accept some things from BR that they wouldn't from RD. But you used to try and be positive about RD when folk were getting on his case and I haven't seen the same from you with regards to BR. I don't think I'm making that up or seeing what I want to see, you said yourself you haven't been overly fussed by his appointment and that we should get used to the football we saw on Tuesday. I personally have hopes and expectations that he will be an improvement on RD which is based on some of the very entertaining football I witnessed from his Liverpool and Swansea teams.

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{Ed007's Note - For the last 2 years people blamed RD for everything that was wrong at the Club. Brendan Rodgers has led us to THE most embarrassing European defeat in our history and it's suddenly the pitch and players fault.
RD was constantly accused of not being able to motivate certain players - did that shower out there on Tuesday look motivated for their first competitive game under a new manager? Forget the pitch and the heat, there was no heart in that team.
I said last season that the support were setting the bar so high that any future manager will be under intense scrutiny like never before - so why isn't Rodgers being judged under the same conditions and constraints as RD? Look around at how many Celtic fans who made up their mind about RD after failing to qualify for the CL in his first season can't even bring themselves to question him about Tuesday and would rather blame the pitch and players.
Brendan Rodgers first competitive match as Celtic manager was the single most embarrassing result in our European history, against a team of part-time players who had worked a shift before the match, and nothing can change that. Last season Celtic supporters wanted the manager sacked for winning 2-0 against a team of part-timers on a plastic pitch - all of a sudden that EK Thistle result doesn't look too bad.
On the live chat there were guys that had bet 5-0 and 6-0, I myself said 3-0 as I knew the pitch would be a problem. Celtic getting beat was unacceptable and yet the manager came out and said it wasn't embarrassing. For a one off game this is worse than Clyde, Morton or even ICT years ago.
You're holding onto what you hope will happen rather than stick to talking about what has, nothing will ever erase this embarrassment - unless we go out on away goals next week.}

14 Jul 2016 15:20:36
Hail Hail to that Ed. To a T.

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{Ed007's Note - (yes)

14 Jul 2016 15:29:47
I was one of the people who defended RD after the EK game. I thought it was shocking some of the stick he got from certain people who were never going to give him a chance no matter what. Of course nothing can change the embarrassment of Tuesday but we can only improve from that and we will. The only positive is that we have a second leg to put it right and put it behind us as a major blip, a one off disaster. Whether or not we reach the standard that I think we can remains to be seen, you're right, but that's my opinion and it won't change after one horrific performance because I've seen the same standard of overall performance from RD's team last season, just without the final result. I'm not on here to argue, we both want Celtic to do well and I'm positive that we will.

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{Ed007's Note - Let's hope we're not disappointed then. I agree with you that this is only a blip, a major one and that we'll be in the draw for the next round. But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the different reaction and treatment of the manager. How do you think the fans would have reacted if we had appointed a Murat Yakan or even Paul Hartley as manager and they had led us to the most embarrassing result in our European history? The manager, Lawwell and the board would be getting crucified by everyone, supporters and the press. Even the press are going easy on Rodgers because they don't want to upset him so early in his time here, they know Rodgers can outflank them after years of dealing with the English media whereas they fed the anti RD feelings in the support.
If a journalist had slaughtered Rodgers in the press the fans would have been in an uproar screaming about boycots and banning them from Celtic Park blah blah. Yet they happily sat back and watched them hound our previous manager for 2 years with their borderline xenophobia.
Can we expect our own players to be booed by the support again?}

14 Jul 2016 18:28:23
I agree completely that the hypocrisy and double standards are so blatant it's not even funny and I understand your frustration at BR getting an easy ride. But that's not BR's fault and if some people are willing to give him the support that they should have given to RD then surely that's a good thing, although wholly unfair on RD. At the end of he day we all need to support the team and the manager and if BR was judged as harshly and aggressively as RD then he'd be on a shakey peg already but that's an awful way to go about things. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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{Ed007's Note - Being two faced and having double standards is never a good thing. Don't worry, Kev, I'll be here to make sure Rodgers meets the extraordinary high standards that posters and fans have demanded from the management in recent years.}

14 Jul 2016 21:37:12
Being positive and showing support is a good thing though but criticism must be dished out when it's due.

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