Celtic Banter Archive April 14 2015

 

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14 Apr 2015 21:15:17
Can anyone tell me where the collectors will be situated tomorrow night for the food donations.I come in from Parkhead cross to janefield street,thanks in advance killy.

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{Ed007's Note - Good lad, Killy. There will be collection points at the Celtic Way, Dalmarnock train station & Tesco car park. Hopefully there'll be plenty of people helping so if you see one of the folk in the hi-vis Celtic Foundation vests they'll be happy to help, Killy.}

14 Apr 2015 21:52:27
Thanks for that ed.killy.

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{Ed007's Note - You're very welcome mate.}

15 Apr 2015 09:32:20
I know our fans will help this worthwhile cause as they always do but shame on the conservatives for making poor people dependent on these foodbanks with their uncaring policies and savage benefit cuts

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15 Apr 2015 10:32:19
BRILLIANT! So proud of my club. I can't get down to the game but will make a donation to my local food bank.

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15 Apr 2015 17:26:56
Can't believe someone disagreed with wanting to help those in need.killy.

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15 Apr 2015 18:34:47
Days like today makes us even more proud , of our club .

Killy it appears we have someone of simple mind or as Shake in the finger.

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15 Apr 2015 23:06:24
If those who disagree with the donations of food,be man enough to post your reason why you disagree.killy.

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{Ed007's Note - It's another reason why I hate those buttons, they just encourage the vilest of trolls, and the spineless ones at that. Rest easy, Killy, you can go to sleep tonight knowing you're a decent man and better human being than they'll ever be.}

15 Apr 2015 23:11:09
I would say it would be a disgruntled sevco supporter! Never yobs know they don't do charity and if they do they use it for themselves! Let's not forget they ripped off the British people for years and more than likely contributed to the current state!

Where did their poppy fund go?

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{Ed007's Note - Probably the same place as the AC Milan Legends 'Charity' game money went.}

16 Apr 2015 15:48:38
Killy don't let it get to you mate. At least you can hold your head high and be proud you have done your bit to help ease poverty amongst those who are in need of help.

Your a gentleman for your generosity, don't let these idiots get to you.

Ed I hate to rock boat, but is there anyway changes can be made to agree/disagree function? I enjoy using the site and you guys are doing a great job keeping site going. Just think its being abused mate

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{Ed007's Note - I'd love to get rid of them mate but when we did people complained and Ed001 over-ruled me. I'd have it that everyone could see who clicked what, I wish they were as keen to click on an advert to help out with the running costs.}

17 Apr 2015 01:02:49
Ed I respect there is only so much you can do mate. Your doing a good job and i'm sure I speak for all posters on this, we appreciate your effort.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate, that's nice of you to say that..... ya crawler (finger)

14 Apr 2015 18:06:53
What's the spfl playing at over at Hampden.

These clowns can't even get the after split fixtures out, why do we persevere with their incompetence?

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{Ed007's Note - I was told earlier this afternoon it would be tomorrow before they're released.}

15 Apr 2015 18:51:22
A wee problem getting Sevco an advantage, to get them into the big boys league .

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14 Apr 2015 17:55:15
Why are Celtic so poor at selling average players? When I say Celtic are so poor I mean in comparison to Sevco who have 10 English clubs in competition to sign Clarke .

Now if only Celtic had the full support of the SMSM to help to advertise our wares, we would be so much better off.

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14 Apr 2015 19:33:58
Dont know chris02. Ask yer mate in Bolton

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14 Apr 2015 21:25:27
I don't have any mates in either Bolton or Barcelona .

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15 Apr 2015 04:45:15
who say's there is 10 clubs wanting to sign him? probably the succulent lamb brigade trying to drive the price up on one of the few saleable assets that sevco have then some ex ranger influence at some english club will pay over the odds for him ala same as when souness bought the big french guy after six months at rangers when they were having troubles

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15 Apr 2015 08:05:07
Big D you raise a good point. Can you remember the former tenants of ibrokes got caught out trying something similar with Jelavic?

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15 Apr 2015 10:36:03
Chris has a point, we have a team full of average ability players picking up good wages for doing nothing.

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15 Apr 2015 18:21:55
Big D , I would think you are hitting the nail on the head , the apparent high demand for Rangers/Sevco players when they are moving on has always made the ipox an attractive place for that type of footballer to play .

Markie I think Deila may be trying to improve the standard of player we sign , more important Deila wants to sign young players who are eager to learn, to adopt to his demands of footballers . Players who are self motivated and willing to play for the team as he wants. Ability alone is not enough , young Tony Watt had all the ability in the world , but Deila must have seen flaws in his mental make- up as he moved him along within weeks .

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14 Apr 2015 17:32:51
The SFA have set the ball rolling in how to stop Celtic winning the treble by appointing Stevan Mc Lean to control Celtic in the semi final. His record with Celtic has been pretty impressive so far this season, refereed three games, Celtic losing two.
On Sunday one of his assistants will be Andrew Dallas, who no doubt will get special last minute advice from his Dad Hugh despite been in charge of several important Internationals and UEFA Champions League games, counts his greatest moment as referee was when he awarded Rangers a penalty minutes after been stunned by a pound coin after sending Mahe off .
We can expect nothing but the highest standards in controlling Sunday's game πŸ˜‹

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14 Apr 2015 18:05:11
Careful Chris02 we do not want to be accused of paranoia do we now?

lol

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15 Apr 2015 10:02:00
Or the players could just put in a better performance than the last one. That would probably be enough to overcome Caley AND all the imaginary baddies who are out to get us.

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15 Apr 2015 14:54:52
Thats essentially it kev, yes decisions go against us but it was a below par performance all round. I expect us to do the job in the semi.

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15 Apr 2015 19:25:43
Kevbhoy , I expect the players will put up a better performance , but I remember big Tony telling us all to take it on the chin , that didn't work , but of course if you don't think that the referees and assistants are as dishonest as Ogilivie is then you have a problem

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16 Apr 2015 09:19:39
I don't have a problem at all Chris. Decisions go for us and decisions go against us. I'm too young to remember the bad old days but in this day and age I see no evidence of the SFA or the match officials beng out to get Celtic. If anything they're just bad. I cringe when I read/hear some of the nonsense that gets spouted by our supporters who are always acting the victim and looking for someone else to blame. The first big decision I remember this season is the Boerrigter penalty that won us the game against St. Johnstone when we were absolutely shocking and never looked like winning. It as a total dive and he got rightly banned. We need to move away from the total seige mentality and constant paranoia, times have changed and the football authorities would never get away with half the stuff they used to. My opinion of course.

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16 Apr 2015 18:13:48
Kevbhoy , Can I ask you how many players have got a two match ban for diving this season . The explanation for D B's suspension was that he duped the ref into a wrong decision). I would interpret that as the referee made an error and instead of punishing the referee , they punished the player . That's the official view .

I reckon there was some contract , a penalty questionably? , never a dive .

Are you old enough Kevbhoy to remember the game when Victor was sent off , for winning the ball , and a penalty given against Celtic for a tackle ( never a foul ) outside the penalty box . The penalty not given to Celtic in injury time in our last League cup final before this year . Kevbhoy I could tell you many more, but I don't want you to cringe too much in your body .

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16 Apr 2015 23:14:23
That's probably for the best tbh Chris. I just kind of skimmed through that last one.

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14 Apr 2015 12:19:34
Is it just me or is anyone else getting fed up listnin and reading about this club or that club wanting guedetti! I'm sick of hearing it! I wish he would bugger off just now and I don't care where! He's done nothing in the past 6 months! And I for one will not miss him one bit.at the start I thought we had a really top class striker here,but it's went the same as it went for him at every other club he's been at! Starts well then fades away! I wouldn't even put him in the squad til the end of the season! Let's concentrate on players who want to actually be there!

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14 Apr 2015 13:47:11
Bit harsh in my opinion, can hardly blame him for other teams offering him a contract (have we?), hardly played recently but still our top scorer, still think he could come good for us, his link up play set up the 2 goals against Partick then dumped on the bench again

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14 Apr 2015 16:41:40
Still think the guy has to high an opinion of himself! There's no chance of him coming good because he'll be off next month! Just a bit sick of hearing about feyenoord or whoever else wanting him! And him being our top goalscores still says more for our other strikers than it does him! We've been rotten in the striking department this season!

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14 Apr 2015 18:14:21
His body language for weeks has been one of disinterest in Celtic and if we had more reliable striking options I don't think he would be near the first team.
We gave him an excellent opportunity to get match fit and restart his career, but he is too easily distracted and very immature, seeking and attracting negative publicity.
This is a crucial time for the club as the games are thick and fast with plenty at stake every week and we need committed grafters and winners to play for our team.

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14 Apr 2015 21:44:48
Guidetti is the opposite of nearly all the players at Celtic . Players like Brown, Griffiths
Izzy, Briton are among the many who have improved.
Guidetti who came in a blaze of glory and acclaimed by many as our new striking sensation , as regressed from his early season form when we all wanted him signed as soon as possible .
Maybe Guidetti shows just how hard it is to pick up a young good striker on the cheap.

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15 Apr 2015 10:50:18
I thought we was going to be great. 22 and scoring for fun. But I agree with some of the other posts, he seems to have a bigger ego than is deserved. I can't understand his mentally in wanting to play for a middle of the road Dutch club as apposed to a club like celtic. I think the boy has an attitude problem, he will regret it in later years. We will probably read about it in his auto

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15 Apr 2015 13:14:48
Markie I think its a case of Guidetti wanting to go to Dutch league hoping he can hit 20 goals in 23 games form again, making him look good and use feyenoord as a stepping stone for a megabucks move. Story in The Sun adds some plausibility to this theory of greed, as his move is already in doubt due to demands for astronomical signing on fee.

Im not buying this nonsense chris02 is saying that it is hard to pick up a good striker on the cheap. There are plenty out there. Gary Hooper cost us about Β£2.3m (i think) and there are plenty more examples out there.

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15 Apr 2015 19:46:23
DN 30 . It's very easy for you to make that shout , but different Managers at Celtic have found it difficult . I can only remember Gary Hooper as a good striker bought by Celtic in the last 8 / 10' years at little money and doing a good job . However you wouldn't count him as he came in Lennon's time .

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15 Apr 2015 21:22:38
Chris02 no credit where credit is due. Lennon did well signing Gary Hooper. Downhill signings striker wise from there untill Griffiths (good spl striker and best we have at moment).

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16 Apr 2015 00:22:42
Fair play to youDN 30'. Praise from you to Lennon is praise indeed .
Just about Griffiths been a good SPL striker , that's good enough for me as we play more Spl games than all the rest put together every season .

I think good strikers , improve with confidence , Griffiths has been a confident striker with us since the turn of the year . I think if we were playing European football just now and if he was getting good service he would score regularly in Europe . Too often our strikers don't perform in Europe because of lack of service and us not in control of the game .
With that been the case most strikers would struggle .

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14 Apr 2015 11:35:45
My post yesterday, especially about Izzy provoked some debate so let me clarify my thoughts, I am an Izzy fan but he has not had a rest in over 4 years and with this tournament in July he will miss our CL qualifiers and then come back a tired player, Celtic have not bought anyone to give him competition so we need to address this issue. There are some good players up here in scotland who could play left back, especially in SPFL thus giving Izzy some much needed rest, but on the other hand if a decent offer came in for him I think we should consider it. Now another player in the news is guidetti who apparently is Feyernoord bound, why are we still playing him? surely we should now be giving Scepovic the chance, as he is a permanent signing, play him for rest of the games in place of guidetti and get him up to speed for our CL qualifiers.

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14 Apr 2015 15:05:13
Theres no harm in bringing in new players. If somebody is back up to Izzy, with scope for development, good enough. If we bring in somebody as an immediate improvement, even better. I only consider Brown to be irreplaceable for what we would get.

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14 Apr 2015 15:29:40
The reality of Izzys career is he is 28 now, i'd say we could potentially get another 4 good seasons from him. Although he is a good player, why not plan for future and find a youth LB to develop that would benefit from Izzys mentoring?

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14 Apr 2015 16:22:52
We should be developing our own youngsters more and it's disappointing we don't have any defenders ready to step up.
Midfielder's like Henderson and McGregor have potential and McGeough is picking up experience with Hibs; but guys like Fisher and O'Connell have had a stop/start careers so far and it could be they don't even have a future at Celtic?
With the facilities and resources we have, we should be churning out more potential - assuming the scouting works?
It has been a long while since we produced a string of talent that could make the grade and were so-called Celtic class.

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14 Apr 2015 17:06:41
Have we not got a youth left back, someone to develop to take over from Izzy when he is somewhere between 30-34 . We are a club with limited resources which we should use to improve our weaker positions and worry about our stronger positions if and when we have more resources . Izzy seems to love the challenge of playing every game , if that is the case I don't think we should be trying to curtail his appearances unnecessary

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14 Apr 2015 19:36:53
There has been many posts on here about so called "SPL players" Stokes, Mulgrew spring to mind who have had heavy criticism. Izzy is a classic example of this, looks very good in SPL doesn't make many mistakes that cost goals though it happens now and again like any other defender. But when it comes to Europe he is costing us goals time and time again and is actively targeted by the opposition now. If that is not a weak link I don't know what is. Don't get me wrong I like Izzy but timalloy may be right here.

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14 Apr 2015 08:35:09
I c dn30s love of all things LENNON hasn't gone away yet.
Whenever LENNON doesn't get a mention for a few days, true to form dn brings his name up.
Your constant whinging bout LENNON is growing old pal,
As a player and manger he was a legend, END OF.
Hail Hail KING LENNON.

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14 Apr 2015 11:09:30
DaBhoyBhoy I was wondering when your presence was going to grace us. TINTED GLASSES SYNDROME AT ITS BEST

I think you should get your facts right before you dive in and make the usual ar$e of yourself. I never started thread about Lennon, it was started by others and I supplied my input as I have every right to do so!

Il make this crystal clear for you LENNON NEVER ACHIEVED A SATISFACTORY STANDARD AS CELTIC MANAGER IN DOMESTIC CUPS OR EUROPE.

Who do you think you are? You probably never even seen celtic play whether at a game or on TV as your posts have always been silly, stupid, cringeworthy propanganda with absolutely no basis. You need help πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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14 Apr 2015 12:05:57
DN30, could you explain to everyone, how getting into the Europa league, Champions league and Champions league last sixteen, is sub standard.
I take it you must want Ronny sacked, as he managed to get us knocked knocked out of the Champions league twice in a couple of weeks,
I assume you won't put up with such incompetence,
Who do you think we should get as our manager next season?

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14 Apr 2015 13:15:42
ROFL. I couldn't even bring myself to brand Lennon a managerial legend. DaBhoyBhoy is like a sober wee pat.

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14 Apr 2015 14:18:41
Gerryc is that you finished reading mein kampf?

What a silly, stupid, pointless comment. I will put this nonsense to bed with following facts:

Season 2010-11 Never qualified for EUROPA LEAGUE
Season 2011-12 Qualified for EUROPA LEAGUE through
Forfeit of Sion finished 3rd
Season 2012-13 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE LAST 16.
Only good season Lennon had in Europe.
Season 2013-14 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE STAGES.
Absolute abysmal, embarrasing and horrifying campaign. 3 points from 18, lost 5/6 games and absolutely tore apart by Barcelona.

Just proved there in no uncertain terms, that 3/4 seasons in europe were shocking and unacceptable under Lennon. He should of been shown the door after season 2011-12.

Obviously everyone wants their team to qualify for Champions League, there's no doubting that. But regardless who manager is, if CL is not achieved a good respectable participation in Europa League is expected. Deila has achieved this in his 1st season which Lennon never did. if it was not for Sion cheating, Lennon would of failed to qualify for even Europa group stages 2 seasons in a row so why would anyone want to get rid of Deila???

You have never liked Deila from day 1 and will use any excuse to discredit the bhoy.

A very sinister, bitter, twister individual

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14 Apr 2015 14:55:27
Dn, usual critic of insults.
Plz help me to post your enlightening football analysis.
P.S, what propaganda am I trying to sell.
Cringe worthy, reading to many of your posts.
What's Celtic games?, where do they play?, what's tv?

LMAO

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14 Apr 2015 15:08:54
DN30 oh dear have I upset you.
As I said before I think Ronny is doing a great job. I certainly don't want him sacked.
The difference between you and me is that I don't pillory Ronny every time something goes wrong, in the same way I don't blame Neil Lennon for mistakes he made in his time as manager.
You don't seem to judge Ronny and Lennon by the same standards, if Ronny makes a mistake, you say it's because he's new to the job. Where as if Lennon made the same mistake, you say he should never have been appointed because he was too inexperienced.
I don't hate Ronny I think he's doing a great job, but I judge him and Lennon the same way.
You should try and do the same

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14 Apr 2015 16:19:02
@gerryc If you don't blame Neil Lennon for the mistakes he made then who do you blame?

Lennon was keen to blame refs etc for defeats, with the League Cup final defeat to Kilmarnock shining out as a particular low and embarrassing point for him.

The semi-final defeat to Hearts in the Scottish Cup from the same season also seen his behaviour fall below an acceptable standard of a Celtic manager, behaviour Lennon himself said

"I deeply regret what happened. I will be sending correspondence to the referee as an apology as well. It’s one actionable thing that I’ve done that I shouldn’t have done. I will go to the tribunal and hopefully get a fair hearing and take what’s coming".

He also faced SFA charges over comments made on twitter after the Hearts defeat - that's a Celtic manager on social media saying

"Referee told players he thought Wanyama handled. feel so sorry for players and fans. I think it’s personal myself."

I'd be interested to know who you blame, do you see Neil Lennon as different from every manager in football in that he doesn't need to take responsibility for any mistakes?

You should maybe prepare yourself for him getting sacked from Bolton, once you jump on the English managerial merry go round it's hard to get off.

Bolton are in serious money troubles and if they don't get off to a flyer next season it'll be tatty-bye Neil, it's the nature of the beast and now he's jumped into bed with the devil (epl/skys money pit) he's just another half decent manager lost in a plethora of half decent managers.

The romantic notions some posters on here have for Neil Lennon worries me, does your partners know how deep these feelings run?

You don't think a Celtic manager releasing a calender and clothing range is a mistake? Whos responsible for that massive mistake?

Remember the candlelight vigil? (rofl)

It's frightening there's people like that out there and even more scarier that they support the Hoops, I think I'd be looking to move my season tickets if I found out I was sitting next to one of them.

Nutters like that are capable of anything.

One more thing, gerry, why is Lennon still regarded so highly yet Gordon Strachan isn't?

It's been suggested to me in the past that it's because of where they were born, can you help with that?

Would Neil Lennon be held in the same light if he had been born in Motherwell?

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14 Apr 2015 16:36:19
Gerryc I honestly lost interest after 1st paragraph

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14 Apr 2015 17:19:37
It must be true DN 30 has shouted out loud that " Lennon has never achieved a satisfactory as Celtic Manager in domestic cups or Europe "

So that is it , loud and clear DN 30 has told us in big letters , we cannot contradict that
Now that we have read it capital letters .

Is Lennon's 3 SPL titles in 4 years better than O' Neil's 3 in 5 years .

Can we be sure of Deila's record in Europe over 4 years, Deila's record may or may not be better than Lennon's time will tell.
Remember the capital letters from DN 30, we cannot argue with them .

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14 Apr 2015 17:45:57
AH I don't blame Lennonf or things going wrong during his tenure, because I think Celtic were far stronger when he left than when he started.
I am not saying he didn't get things wrong, of course he did, but in my opinion, if you look at the state of the club when he took over, there is no comparison to the state he left it in.
Do you remember before he took over the state we were in, we were down to a crowd of 15,000 against Motherwell, the shambolic performance at St Mirren where we lost 4-0, we had become a laughing stock, yet DN30 moans about us losing to Barcelona.
If Lennon had left us in a worse state than when he took over then I would criticise him, but are you really saying he did.
As I said yesterday I am not Irish so I don't know what him being born in Motherwell has got to do with anything, I don't know a great deal about Lennon's private life, every single point I have made about him has been based soley onΒ his job as manager.
As for Strachan, I really rated him as manager, but no one has come on here slagging him off, so I don't need to stick up for him.
I must be living in a different universe, but I fail to see how sticking up for Lennon's record makes me a sinister twisted individual, there must be thousands of sinister twisted individuals who are Celtic supporters.

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14 Apr 2015 17:46:18
@DN30 You better be careful mate. I can see you upsetting the #celticfamily on here.

You're not supposed to think for yourself on here or you're accused of being all sorts.

Ignore the accusations of the desperate amongst us mo chara.

Celtic has become infested by a group who are out to abuse real Celtic fans and any free thinkers in our support, week in week out and getting off on it.

They're getting off on dictating to you what you can and can’t say, sing or even think, it's feeds their self inflated egos.

These people are uber-fans, they're out to patronise us into acceptance of THEIR ideas on how we should think and behave.

They'll even dictate what charities you support if you let them.

They're preying on our supports moral conscience, preying on the fear of being thought of as a "bad man" or not a "real fan", even a part-time supporter.

What we should fear is being thought of as being as "bad" as these uber-fans are - they’re rotten to the f*cking CORE and a bunch of mealy moothed insincere sanctimonious hypocrites.

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14 Apr 2015 19:08:20
Contradictions02 Very straight forward question to answer, yes oneils were better 3 titles. Much stronger competitive league, with no certainty who would win league. If John Barnes was previous manager instead of Lennon, even he would of won league 3 in a row, maybe even league cup dare I say! Its nice having league cup home, was beginning to forget what it looked like.

Deila is only in door and already in 1st season, got us through to knock out stages of Europa cup, won league cup, league is a certainty and scottish cup a formality. All this for the measly cost compared to prior seasons of Β£5m, what a debut season! Exactly the standard of manager required for the position of manager. Glad PL has got it right after 2 mistakes in Mowbray and Lennon. No doubt when he wins treble, some people will try credit Lennon with praise πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Gerryc the moaning about Barcelona was valid doris. It wasnt a beating, 6-1 was a crucifixion!

AH your right mate. Its this faction that I blame for not standing up against the Kelly regime in the dark days pre fergus mccann and nearly sending club to the wall.

They think they can silence us with their "celtic family" code of conduct by bullying loyal supporters. Mindless morons who remind me of the mentality of a housing scheme culdisac- clique.

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14 Apr 2015 19:49:09
@DN for FC Sion see Legia Warsaw I don't see the difference apart from the managers are different.Can you ever admit Lennon left us in a better state than when he took over lol. He left with us bein a CL team as I said in earlier post it was even bein discussed on here we should push the boat out and spend money to make last 8.Now we are a Europa league team, that's a backward step in my opinion. Yes trophies are great and trebles are great. But our ONLY real test is in Europe that's where we find out how good we are.We can never progress by winning trebles we simply cudnt afford to sign players. CL money now is a must for us to progress. How many good players want to play in SPL? They see us in CL they will come.This is not a Lennon v RD debate or me its about progression.

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14 Apr 2015 20:50:37
DN30 I apologise that you feel bullied by my view that I would like Celtic to be in the Champions league.
I never realised that wanting Celtic to be successful made me a mindless moron.
I sincerely hope that Ronny Deila gets us into the Champions league next season, the club needs it to move forward, both on and off the park, we can't make that sort of money just playing Europa league or SPL teams, we will start to stagnate.
If saying that offends true Celtic supporters, then I must apologise.

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14 Apr 2015 21:18:01
Rayman I've not forgot about Legia Warsaw and had we not made Europa League I would be critical as well of Deila.

This thread was directed specifically at myself and I wasnt going to sit back and get lambasted.

Your right, we are a CL team now but I didn't think we were at start of the season. There was 5 players playing for us against Maribor that were not good enough. 2 of those are away Kayal and berget. i'm positive we will see some additions end of season that will give us more strenght and hopefully see us in CL every season

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14 Apr 2015 22:24:04
DN 30. I didn't realise that the best and most appropiate teams were not in the SPL during Lennon's four years as Celtic manager . Are you implying again that Sevco/ Rangers should still be in the Spl . I am afraid cannot accept that . O'Neil inherited some players who could have starred with top teams in any of the top leagues in Europe . Granted the team was massively under performing . O'Neil spent an open fortune in bringing more top players to Celtic . In O'Neil's tenure as manager Celtic paid out the equivalent of a mid EPL team , in Lennon's time not only did he not inherit European star quality players but he paid wages of only a fraction of the EPL's bottom teams. O'Neil with all his spending won just three out of five .
It's a good job that Celtic managers are not rated by all Celtic fans by the amount of League Cup titles they won . League Cup wins are brilliant as part of trebles otherwise they are meaningless. Let us all hope that Ronny can win his first of many trebles this season . That's what is most important now.

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14 Apr 2015 23:29:36
@ DN we were a CL team when we met Maribor, RD had the same squad literally from last season. Regardless of the selection we should a beat them. If I had personally been the manager I would have been embarrassed to lose to them from a winning position. Remember altho we were playin $hit at half time we were thro. Then the manager goes attacking, a rookie mistake. All he had to do was keep it tight not give away anything and try to knick a goal job done, he would a got more signings.Hindsight a wonderful thing but I remember during the game all of us looking at each other and thinking what is he doing?

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{Ed007's Note - That team from last season was pumped by Barca 6-1 and then when we played Maribor we had replaced a GK that went to the World Cup with England for a GK that hadn't played a match in years and whose error cost us CL football in the Maribor match, we had Charlie Mulgrew who always struggles in Europe still in at CB, our captain and midfield engine Scott Brown was injured and previous season's top scorer was in mid-tantrum because he didn't think he was fat.
Sadly the GK who hadn't played for years mistakes would cost us in the EL this season as well, you're backing of him is the only thing you need to be embarrassed by never mind us losing a match.
If we had kept Forster, or replaced him with a fully sharp/fit GK, and Brown was fit I have no doubts in my mind we'd have made the CL this year.
Did you feel embarrassed after we got thumped 6-1 by Barca or when NL failed to qualify for Europe at all in his first season, losing to Braga and Utrecht?
RD has had a vastly more successful debut season than NL had, I know you don't count domestic cups so according to you NL won or done nothing of any importance in his first season. Or are you going to say winning the the SC was a success.
And remember than NL also had 4 months in the job as caretaker and planning a preseason, you'd have thought that would have gave him a better start to his first full season, but it didn't.
I'm not even going to mention Gordon's blunder against ICT at the weekend, och ok then, just for you.


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Why is he following Izaguirre and why then just stop to watch instead of adjusting his angle? Just like Maribor he failed to get back into position and left himself exposed, watch Denayer, Izzy has the near post covered with VvD at the other post, watch him get into position.
Denayer runs into the middle of the goal expecting Gordon to take up position nearer the far post, Denayer makes the block and Gordon is still standing watching the ball come in at the far side. Then he has the cheek to look at Denayer - the guy who has just cleared the ball off the line! Denayer doesn't just run in there for nothing, he knows that's where he should be. The only person out of position is the GK and it cost us again.
Let's just hope that Craig Gordon's poor positioning isn't going to become as defensively problematic as NL's zonal marking nonsense was, I'd hate to see him costing us this treble, he's cost us enough so far and he's not even been here a year. I'm not confident of trying to reach the CL group stages with a GK who has proven to be suspect at European level and has made simple mistakes domestically. Maybe his shaprness would improve if he was fit enough to train every day but we'll never know.}

15 Apr 2015 09:26:21
ED007, I know you're probably sick to death of this, but I just wanted to make one last point.
Whenever I stick up for Neil Lennon, it has absolutely nothing to do with comparing him to Ronny Deila.
I admit I had my doubts about him when he was appointed, as I'd never heard of him, it's a massive job for an experienced manager let alone someone who seemed very inexperienced.
I felt exactly the same when Neil Lennon was appointed.
My sticking up for Neil Lennon is purely based on comparing the club, when he started the job, as to when he left. It's nothing to do with saying he's a better manager than Ronny Deila.
I think Ronny is doing a great job here and I am really enjoying the season. I am just about to leave for the match tonight, (I'm bringing some food for the collection) and I'm really looking forward to it.
Any criticism I made of Ronny, was purely to highlight that every manager makes mistakes, and not that I think that he's a bad manager.
It's not an Irish or Celtic family thing, with Lennon, I just thought he improved us from where we were when he started, and I am pleased that Ronny is taking us further.
I certainly don't want to be classed as an RD hater. In fact I would be gutted if he were to leave.

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{Ed007's Note - NL was in the right place at the right time to get manager's job, he was cheap and the club listened to the fans but let's not forget that the club tried to bring in a mentor for him, so they couldn't have been too confident in him and NL himself was open to the idea. I remember John Collins doing an interview about it even BEFORE NL's first season had started. Why the hell would a CFC manager need a mentor, it was embarrassing beyond belief and if it hadn't been NL the support would have went crazy at basically advertising the manager wasn't up to the job and him admitting it. What would the support say if RD came out in the summer and said he needed a mentor? All that nonsense seems to get forget about with fan's selective memory.
Remember NL was 45 minutes from the sack/resigning when we were 3-0 down up at Kilmarnock in 2011, Gerry.
People seem to gloss over how bad we actually were in his first full season in charge and you can't blame Mowbray for any of that, NL took over in March 2010 and had nearly 6 months in the job before the start of his first full season.
When Rangers imploded he had a great chance to rack up the trophies, dominate the domestic scene and make teams fear us, he failed and his trophy count under the circumstances speaks for itself, it's simply not good enough.
People talk about the mess Mowbray left but what about the mess NL left? After being manager for over 4 years his team were put out both cups with barely a whimper and were mortified in Europe. Where was the progress? Even the football was a grind to watch
RD has turned that round to get us playing fluent & attractive football, we're within touching distance of a treble, or at least a double, and he gave us European football after Christmas where we had a great chance of beating Inter Milan until Peter Lawwell's and John Park's cheapo GK cost us.}

15 Apr 2015 15:58:46
Remember ed you need to get into CL to get beat by great teams. barca have humped many good teams much better than us.No disgrace losin to them, also we can only beat them when we in it too. We get it u don't like CG but to blame him for that goal is nonsense. I believe u are the only 1 to even mention it on here, like the Maribor goal or u still in denial about Izzys part. Another way of looking at the goal you mentioned Denayer and VVD. Instead of them running to the goal line they could have picked up their men and prevented it quite easily but you prefer to blame CG for his positioning. To my mind he is in right position if his 2 CBs are picking up the attackers as the shot is weak and could a been cleared easily.But don't listen to me ed I just 1 opinion, let's see how the pros rate him for POTY as he in with a big shout.

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15 Apr 2015 17:48:23
ed,criticise gordon if you want but don't it make it seem that foster never made mistakes.

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