Celtic Banter Archive March 13 2017

13 Mar 2017 23:08:56
Take it not posting my post?

{Ed007's Note - Take it you didn't look?}

13 Mar 2017 20:25:52
Hererra 2nd yellow warranted a 2nd yellow? But a two footed flying tackle didn't merit 1? Or holts siscorrs on paddy?

13 Mar 2017 20:46:00
ED007 I take it the compliance officer will review this as obviously the referee missed Miller's two footed flying tackle.

{Ed007's Note - I won't be holding my breath.}

13 Mar 2017 20:48:10
Inconsistent refereeing standards unfortunately we will always have them just seems to happen too often for or against us.

13 Mar 2017 22:06:27
What refs r good some can't keep up with play if the fat numskull had been in a better position he might hav got it right don't think so though past allegiances we're aw para is the war cry bullsh-t people say that the video review would hold the game up but it resolves the mistakes fairly and works in every other sport it's used in that's what's needed to stop it take the power away from them and everyone will have a fair crack at it even in Europe how many bad decisions in these games have gone against the smaller club all games would have to be won by a team on their own merrit not a mistake.

14 Mar 2017 09:40:53
Games like this should be refereed by an official (and assistants) from down south. This would remove complaints (from both sides) about biased referees etc. This would also show the SFA are serious about being fair open and honest. While I am at it I would like for peace in the Middle East.

14 Mar 2017 13:16:06
@tinytim - did we not have refs from abroad when ours went on strike a few years back and I'm sure there was a couple of complaints about incidents then?

14 Mar 2017 13:22:01
Will the compliance officer look at Brown's attack on Jason Holt?

13 Mar 2017 16:10:31
Here's a direct quote from ex-referee Dermot Gallagher on yesterday's penalty claim:

"It's the 89th minute, it's 1-1, he can't afford to get it wrong. The biggest way to get it wrong is to give a penalty that wasn't, and I think that's the bigger mistake than not giving a penalty that was. "

Surely I'm not the only person who thinks that's absolute bulls**t?

13 Mar 2017 17:55:32
He's talking out his rectum - although I assume it was on SLY and they have always have an anti-Celtic agenda.
If the incident had perchance been at the other end we all know that madden would not have hesitated to help his favourites - like he had done all afternoon. Add to that:-
Miller should have been off as well as the persistent offender Hill - who would then not have scored that goal.
I know we had an off day but cheating is cheating and why BR or anyone else has not mentioned it is very frustrating.

13 Mar 2017 18:34:06
Dermott Gallagher is actually a massive Celtic fan, look it up. Its obviously just his opinion. Right or wrong.

13 Mar 2017 19:44:20
I don't agree with you on the anti-Celtic agenda and don't see why Clint Hill would be sent off except if the penalty had been given at the end. I like to leave the referee blame game to other folk as a lot of posters on here are way over the top. We were rubbish yesterday and I'm more concerned about that and hope we get a big reaction in the semi-final.

13 Mar 2017 20:39:54
Kevbhoy you are correct well said. Having said that it was a penalty, but we were way below par and to be fair only deserved a share of the points. Must do better in the semi.

13 Mar 2017 16:59:40
great minds and all that Ed. lol.

{Ed007's Note - Yours is that great you answered on the wrong thread (facepalm)

13 Mar 2017 21:40:09
Wasn't talking about Hill and the penalty - I was referring to his numerous unpunished infringements that should have warranted at least two yellow cards in the first half alone.
We all know we were poor yesterday - as I said as much in several posts after the game. However the refereeing was outrageously biased and did influence the game - whether we were poor or not.

13 Mar 2017 22:50:26
I know you were Passing Time and I never saw anything that merited Hill getting booked or sent off apart from the penalty that should have been. Again, I'll let others deal with the "outrageously biased" referee. At the end of the day, if we show up at Hampden we're through. HH.

13 Mar 2017 22:50:28
@passingtime - if you check most of the threads on here pre Sunday it was all 'the ref will have no bearing' as nearly everyone was betting / predicting 4, 5, 6 or 7 nil, Celtic -2 etc. Instead of moaning about the ref, would you not be better debating why Celtic were so poor?

I'll start it off if you like - I blame Brenda's strange substitutions as Celtic were in total control up until then. Did complacency or over confidence creep in with him? Maybe he's starting to believe the hype just like he did at Liverpool?

13 Mar 2017 23:50:51
union jack what was the strange substitution you keep yammering on about? bitton going off after Waghorn the fat twats assault or Armstrong coming off with tight calf's should they have stayed on and further injured themselves?

14 Mar 2017 13:00:58
Uj, don't try and make out as if it was the manager, we all know he had to make those subs. We don't fall for someones repetitive bull, we leave that to you gullibles. Worry about the fact your new bullfighter has started lying to your lot from the get go. Should be amusing.

14 Mar 2017 13:06:15
@big. d - I would have thought LG for Dembele would have been the shout as Moussa was rank rotten.
Plus if you listen to Armstrong after the game he was being very coy after the game about how bad his supposed injury was. I would have thought Sinclair should have been off instead as he had a poor game.

We'll find out how bad Armstrong's injury is this weekend.
In my opinion the balance of the team after the substitutions changed the game in Rangers favour later on but if you're happy that only the ref caused Celtic to drop points then roll on the semi final.

14 Mar 2017 17:45:42
@bhampot - you're normally better than that. Don't get taken in by the headlines from the Daily Rebel or Scottish Hun. Read his full Interview. He's hardly going to come in and publicly state they are the worst Rangers team ever ( copyright any #celticfamily in the media ) . And if your gullible to listen to the repetitive bull that it's all the referees fault when you drop points then more fool you.
P. S. Sorry for suggesting Brenda's halo 😇 had slipped, I didn't realise people were a wee bit precious on here. I won't mention it again. Well not until after the semi final if he hasn't learned his lesson. 😉.

15 Mar 2017 01:47:44
@unionjack where in my post did i mention the referee?

13 Mar 2017 13:22:40
Would any body else be tempted to rest our big game players this weekend?
A few of them looked like they could use it before semi final.

{Ed007's Note - No chance, Kev. Unless it's through injury/fitness get them out on that park playing to redeem themselves, get them back to winning ways AND show that they're up to the task of seeing out the season. The semi is over a month away and we have a league to wrap up asap.
We had the winter break and the trip to Dubai was meant to be all about recharging the batteries so if any the players need a rest now then their fitness levels aren't at an acceptable level, if that is the case I'd have them in for extra training never mind resting them.
Even at that I wouldn't say any of our players looked tired yesterday, for me that's just an excuse for them not turning up and putting in what was a thoroughly unacceptable performance. They've got all week to rest and train to be ready for Dundee, that should be ample time for any player.}

13 Mar 2017 13:43:46
Agree ed just maybe give jozo and eboue a wee run to freshen things.

{Ed007's Note - Things like that are just normal squad rotation though and I've no problem with that. Although Simunovic was on the bench yesterday he wasn't fit enough for 90 mins or I think he would have started beside Boyata. I also think if we had been 2 or 3 goals up Eboue Kouassi would have replaced Bitton at some point during the game but when Bitton got injured we were still looking for goals and McGregor was probably the better option. Armstrong going off injured was a big blow to us and we struggled after that.}

13 Mar 2017 13:51:40
Kev83: I understand your thinking but the 1st team need to be match sharp and that only comes from playing games at that level.

13 Mar 2017 14:06:08
Good shout ed can't disagree with that armstrong was a blow thought he was controlling things but we just didn't turn up.

{Ed007's Note - It was reminiscent of a Walter Smith side, knowing that the referee isn't going to red card anyone so just take it turns to commit fouls until you're booked then let someone else be the hatchet man until he gets booked and so on, - but I wonder if it was the drunken jakey tramp Bomber that gave the order to try and injure our midfielders. Did they listen to Meatloaf's Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad after the game?
Don't forget that the game was only 7 mins in when Kenny Miller tried to break Armstrong's leg(s) so there was no surprise when he ended up injured during the game.

13 Mar 2017 14:30:37
Am amazed they finished with 11 men. there's a picture of millers challenge on another site its unbelievable he never even got booked holts challenge on a think it was paddy was ridiculous not even a foul. and well we know about the pen dermot Gallagher on sly saying it was pen brother bobby would have been getting toasted last mite by the klan terrible display.

{Ed007's Note - I have no doubts at all that if the penalty incident had happened at the other end it would definitely - 100% certain - have been given.}

13 Mar 2017 14:34:12
If the players have enough pride about them then they should be desperate to play on Sunday to get yesterdays performance out of their system.
Over the last few weeks I've felt that we haven't started games well, I don't know if this down to complacency or not but I would like to see us really forcing our opponents back early in games before they settle into their defensive shape.

{Ed007's Note - We're struggling playing 4-3-3, I can't quite put my finger on it but since we switched formation we don't seem to dominate the way we were earlier in the season when we had a fit Rogic and played 4-2-3-1.}

13 Mar 2017 14:47:23
ED007 I said last week that our players would be targeted as they knew the ref would turn a blind eye. Did we really expect anything less from Madden.
The game was almost a re run of Delia's semi final, we played poorly in both games, yet were still better than them, a wee gee up from Brendan is now needed.
I agree with you about some of the players easing off in games recently, I hope Rogic is fit for the semi and even the new guy Eboue both may give us some energy.
We all saw how blatant the cheating, and there is no other word from it from Madden, and this was in a game Sevco had nothing to gain except pride, imagine the number of "honest mistakes" that will occur in the semi final, which is now sevco's make or break game.
On the positive side, just like the last semi final, all the "respectful" triumphalism displayed yesterday should ensure our players are well up for the April game.

{Ed007's Note - There is no way that an ex-RFC season ticket holder (wasn't it a debenture he had with the old club?) should be in the middle of a Glasgow Derby.}

13 Mar 2017 15:06:37
Said in a earlier post that think we're missing rogics wee bit of magic in the last third but hopefully b ready for semi final where the honest mistakes will be a plenty remember big eriks disallowed goal the ladt time at hampden there's yer starter for ten.

{Ed007's Note - We need to look at a new No.10 in the summer, for all I think Rogic's a great technical player his injury problems are a constant concern. I still think we should have kept Johansen for another season to see how he fared under Rodgers.}

13 Mar 2017 15:36:30
It does beg the question why, like with the English FA and their refs having to declare who they support etc, if there are measures which can reduce pressure or possibly even eliminate innocent mistakes, they aren't taken with the SFA.

{Ed007's Note - It's definitely something that should be looked at up here. Either that or bring in foreign officials for big games like derbies and the semis and finals of the cups.}

13 Mar 2017 16:11:07
Ed Jimtim's idea is fine and reasonable but do you expect madden and his ilk to be honest?

{Ed007's Note - Madden couldn't lie and say that he wasn't a Rangers/RIFC season ticket holder.}

13 Mar 2017 17:36:00
I've said before that even if a referee goes into one of these games intending to be truly fair, you can't be sure how they'll react when they have to give a decision in the last minute of a match which is likely to cost his favourite team the match.
It's human nature that he's likely to instantly give the decision in favour of his own team.
Why the SFA think that this won't happen is beyond me. If they were to bring in referees from outside it wouldn't just be fairer to us, it would also be fairer to the refs themselves.

13 Mar 2017 18:10:25
In that split-second moment gerry, a decision could even be a subconscious one.

13 Mar 2017 18:04:14
Think your right ed definitely need another no 10 rogic to injury prone maybe young christie can step up next year.

{Ed007's Note - I wouldn't fancy Christie in there in CL matches though.}

13 Mar 2017 18:46:27
guys if we play Armstrong as a No10 then we are looking at another backup to him. SA has the pace guile and strength to play that role.

13 Mar 2017 18:47:56
Me neither need to get the cheque book out christie will b fine domestically but cl to lightweight.

13 Mar 2017 18:46:27
guys if we play Armstrong as a No10 then we are looking at another backup to him. SA has the pace guile and strength to play that role.

{Ed007's Note - Just NAW!!}

13 Mar 2017 18:47:56
Me neither need to get the cheque book out christie will b fine domestically but cl to lightweight.

{Ed007's Note - Rodgers was quick enough to speak out about LG needing to knuckle down and get himself fit so God knows what he thinks about Rogic. I really hoped he had put all the injury problems behind him and he would cement his place in the starting 11 but that's just over 4 years (Jan '13) he's been here and he's still struggling to stay fit. Being fit for only 50% of our league games is unacceptable to me when you know his injury history.}

13 Mar 2017 20:53:00
Thats a terrible stat ed shame cause he's got a lot to offer.

{Ed007's Note - I was surprised myself but we've played 28 games and he's made 14 league apps for us so far. Remembering how many times he never lasted the full 90 mins in games I worked it out that in the SPFL he's averaged only 63.5 mins per match - 889 mins over his 14 apps.}

13 Mar 2017 21:18:59
I actually thought the cup game was closer than a month away but still think some of the players look jaded.
With the league won in all but name really I would be rotating as much as possible up until the semi to make sure everyone at there peak.
As for the number 10 roll I think it's only really rogic that can play it in our squad and it is a must buy for the summer.
Armstrong for me is best in beside brown and is looking more like the next captain every week.

13 Mar 2017 10:08:44
Firstly, I've never seen so much jubilation at being knocked out of a title race, shows a real small team mentality. In Celtic terms, it shows that we aren't quite the finished article yet and unfortunately too many players had an off day at the same time coupled with them playing out of their skin. Hopefully the blip is out of their system now and we charge on to the treble and further strengthen the squad in the summer. HH.

13 Mar 2017 10:22:09
Any different from your mob's jubilation when you were knocked out the CL? A lot of hypocrites on here.

13 Mar 2017 10:47:01
Knocked out the Champions League by Barcelona and Manchester City. Humped by Inverness Dundee etc? Know your place diddy.

13 Mar 2017 11:12:26
I've taken quite a bit of satisfaction from their celebrations kev. Like I said yesterday, it just emphasises their small team mentality coming to CP and getting a draw.

13 Mar 2017 11:18:45
The polar reactions sums up the reality of how things stand in Scottish football. Celtic fans are angry and disappointed at dropping our first league points (and failing to win) since the 18th Sept! While Sevco fans are celebrating a draw as if it was a lottery win.
There was complacency and over-confidence by too many going into the game from many supporters, players and ex-players in the Celtic camp, while the underdogs went about their game and took advantage of the home teams slackness and under performers - with a little help from their friend madden.
It's the kick in the arse a few of them needed but it does very, very little to alter the course of a monumental season.

13 Mar 2017 11:41:16
How can u celebrate dropping 2 points and more or less losing 2nd place doesn't make sense and the spfl and the cl are slightly different are they not.

13 Mar 2017 11:55:08
@lwdawson, we celebrated the first draw against Man City as it gave us a very unexpected point and could have been vital to us staying in Europe after Christmas. It didn't pan out that way but we were still very much in with a shout at the time, that's the difference.

13 Mar 2017 13:55:18
Guys

Why are we even bothering replying to that 🤡?

Let him crawl back under his rock with no bites.

Amazing that they come on here to gloat over a draw though. What a joke of a club they are.

13 Mar 2017 14:34:38
Hilarious hearing all the jubilant sevco fans, title 55 in their 5 year existence is gone but it's okay as they put the timmies in their place, oh wait it was a 1-1 draw and they should have had a man sent off and a stonewall penalty given against them.

Never a penalty according to ebt mccann as hill has got to be able to wrap his legs round to get the ball despite their view that against accies the slightest touch on toral was a stonewall penalty.

Brendan clearly rattled him with his st mirren being the best team we've played, daft sevconian can't hide his bitterness and the un-mighty sevco were worthy drawers. not one mention of going for 55 in 5 years more than a few mentions about pep warbiola and yet this was the future England manager they are now claiming is a dud.

sevco don't do irony they don't do the truth either nor winning but they're easily pleased and led. Here we go 10 in a row.

13 Mar 2017 16:35:03
They've lost more ground on Aberdeen.

13 Mar 2017 16:44:52
If you don't celebrate an 88 minute equaliser in football then it's true what they say, Celtic fans live to hate rangers not love their club.

13 Mar 2017 16:50:02
@kevbhoy - small team mentality is getting continually humped in the CL but just glad you are there for the money. In that respect Celtic are like the 88 year old prostitute - still getting a wee fumble but getting handsomely rewarded for minimum effort!

13 Mar 2017 16:52:58
Exactly. Its amazing that these Sevconites are jumping up and down with a draw that should have been a loss, if that Madden had done his job and not favour his boyhood heroes. A very poor 3rd in the league with Hearts and St Johnstone chasing them down, no money, in debt and with a Manager who is average at best. Yeh real reason to be joyous LOL.

13 Mar 2017 18:01:18
Uj your going to the wrong prosties mate, minimal effort?

13 Mar 2017 18:07:22
Look celebrating an 88min equaliser is fine but throwing strips in tbe crowd and punters dancing and singing in pubs like they've won the league a bit much uj.

13 Mar 2017 09:46:28
can someone tell me how many games we have played excluding friendly's compared to the rest of the league.

13 Mar 2017 08:30:37
Lets hope rogics fit for semi think we're missing that we bit of nagic in the middle of park and maybe time for big jozo to get a game as erik looks a bit jaded. and think we might see eboue starting some games.

13 Mar 2017 00:07:22
Yes it was a poor performance but end of the day we never lost and were cheated out stone wall penalty that would of changed result. End of the day we have bet them any other time this season we played and will pick ourselves up and run them off the park next tie.

Sviatchenko is too much of a liability for me. Too slow and lost count how many times he has been caught out for pace. Hope we sign CB in summer.

13 Mar 2017 05:52:30
Not because of yesterdays result or performance, as overall Sviatchenko has been very good for us, but I've said before I'd really like to see Boyata and Jozo given a run together to develop.

13 Mar 2017 08:13:19
Thank god for someone else who has seen that Sviatchenko is to slow for defence, yes he has good points but in todays game pace is vital. I too think he has cost us goals in big games, and that means Europe where we will face real tests.
Check my previous posts i suggested months ago moving him into midfield in place of Biton where his strength, tackling will gives us a powerful midfield and he can stide forward to provide hieght in the penalty area. I know we have bought Kouassi but he is young and raw. Why does he not get selected for his country.

13 Mar 2017 09:41:43
erik has never convinced me that he is or was our answer to the centre half problem he always seems slow and gives fouls away in dangerous positions, boyata was much like his old self yesterday (nervy and unsure) efe wasnt any worse than these two, after biton went we didn't seem to have anyone to break up play or stem their attack.